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UCLA vs. Kansas St.: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly

Okay, we've had a couple days to think this one over. We've had the delirious and irrational hysteria of those who lost perspective and then a couple others who went too far the other way in defending the team to combat the hysteria. Neither is particularly helpful, but both are understandable. When you pour yourself into something, only to fall short, it's a killer. When you pour yourself into something and are a part of something, as we all are with UCLA, you can't bear to see those who represent you in blue and gold irrationally attacked. We're two days past the game though, so let's try this recap thing again.

What went well and what needs the most work. This is one that is going to take into account what we've been tracking all offseason. Was the offensive line dominant? They were not by any stretch of the imagination, but they were above average and considering the hits that the Bruins have taken at the position, that's a huge accomplishment. Was Kevin Prince good? Nope, but there are reasons that contributed to it. So, let's dive in. Here's the good, the bad and the ugly from a Saturday afternoon in Manhattan, Kansas.

The Good

Offensive Line- Let's start with the guys I mentioned briefly above. With Mike Harris, Jeff Baca and especially Kai Maiava unable to go, there were legitimate concerns about the Bruins' offensive line. Sure, there were seniors all along the line, but they weren't packing a ton of experience (some experience, but nothing overwhelming) and they were, for the most part, supposed to be second-string guys. That didn't stop the big boys up front from winning the battle against an admittedly rebuilding Kansas St. defensive line. The best sight of the game came when the Bruins went for it on fourth and one and they didn't even both opening a hole for the running back. Instead, they pushed the line of scrimmage two yards back, more than enough to pick up the first down. Prince was sacked six times, but several of those came after five or six seconds looking around downfield and for the most part, Prince had all day to throw. Add in 193 yards rushing and the offensive line did a stellar job. Some credit also has to go to Anthony Barr and the other F-backs, who chipped in with some solid blocking to help out the o-line.

Aaron Hester and Sheldon Price- Kansas St. was never going to be a major threat through the air, but Hester and Price, both sophomores, both shut own the Wildcats' receivers. Price did well to use his long arms to jam the K-State receivers and throw off any timing that the Wildcats were looking for. While he was instructed to give an unusually large cushion last season, Price was allowed to be more aggressive in Manhattan and it paid off as he was able to put some of his better attributes to good use. Hester had one bad moment, picking up a pass interference penalty for handfighting downfield, but he came back on the next two plays to make big tackles that put K-State in a third and long. Coming off of his broken leg from a year ago, Hester didn't show much rust and was quick and instinctive, while using his big frame both in coverage and in run support. With very little safety help all game, Hester and Price never blinked and never stopped being aggressive.

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Running Backs- Jonathan Franklin led all running backs with 60 yards and he finished last among them with 4.6 yards per carry. Derrick Coleman continued to do what he's done his entire UCLA career, picking up chunks of yards even when it seems like he's not doing much and Malcolm Jones looked very good in only three carries. It's always been tough to judge our running back play because they've had nowhere to run, but on Saturday they had room and showed good instincts to find the first hole and go for it. They were quick and decisive and it paid off. Most impressive is that they were very aware of situations, bypassing a couple chances to possibly break big plays to make sure they picked up the first down when it was in front of them. A couple times Franklin and Coleman each tried to make a little magic happen by going offscript in the second level, but they did it when the offense could afford the chance, even when it didn't work. On the whole, a very complete performance for all three running backs.

Revolver- It was clear very early on that the revolver offense was most effective for the Bruins. The bulk of the effective running came out of the revolver, either getting the ball to the running backs or Prince taking it on his own, as he did for UCLA's first score. All the talk about the revolver has been about the quarterback getting involved and making the game 11 vs. 11 as opposed to 10 vs. 11 and it worked. The Kansas St. linebackers were hesitating a bit after Prince hung them out to dry for the touchdown and it paid dividends not only in the running game, but also in the passing game where the Bruins found some space in the middle while the linebackers were hesitating. It was clear that the team had spent a lot more time this offseason out of the formation as the timing in the passing game was much better than from under center.

The Bad

Defensive Line- The front four have gotten some flack for the huge rushing game the Wildcats have, but I didn't see it as a giant problem for them. They weren't good by any means, but I don't think they were completely at fault for the big day that Daniel Thomas and Co. had. They had trouble shedding blocks to make tackles and when peering over the numbers it's not a surprise that only one defensive lineman, Nate Chandler, is in the top five on the team in tackles. What I think they did do a solid job of though is protecting the linebackers. For the most part, the defensive line kept blockers occupied and didn't let a very good Kansas St. offensive line to get onto linebackers and make work overly tough on the linebackers. Thomas showed a lot of patience in the backfield, often waiting an extra second or two to let a hole open up and that pause in the backfield was because his offensive line couldn't just toss the UCLA defensive line around and move on to the linebackers. It took a little extra work for the Wildcats' offensive line so while that alone isn't enough from the UCLA defensive line, they did enough to keep it from being a disaster. The real problem versus the run we'll get into in the ugly.

Tackling- This one is rather simple. The tackling was very, very bad. Guys not breaking down, reaching, not wrapping up. We saw it all on Saturday and the Bruins paid for it to the tune of 313 rushing yards. The reason I don't dump this down in the ugly section is that I wonder how much of it had to do with CRN eliminating full contact and tackling from practice after the fall game when Maiava went down because, in his opinion, the team couldn't afford to risk more injuries. While the decision makes sense in theory, the Bruins paid for it. Because the team hadn't tackled live in a while, their poor tackling isn't completely their fault. They most definitely need to be better, but 100% of the blame can't fall on their shoulders.

Kevin Prince- Again, a bad day from Prince. 9-26 and two interceptions to one touchdown won't do it. Neither of his interceptions were horrible, with one coming when the game was out of reach late and the other trying to force things in late in a half. Not that they're excusable, but they weren't horrible. The issue with Prince was his minimal practice time due to injury and the obvious effect it had on his timing. The ball wasn't coming out when it needed to and the ball was sailing on him at times. With all the time he spent watching practice instead of participating and the dropped passes, it's not too much of a shock that Prince struggled.

The Ugly

Wide Receivers- We just mentioned dropped passes with Prince so here we go. Of all the outrage and upset fans, this is the one area where I can't think up any defense or reason of explanation. They're experienced. They're deep. They're talented. Pretty much, the receivers are supposed to be the best unit on the football team and to say they put up a stinker would be nice to them. It started with two drops from Morrell Presley to open the game and never got better. It made it difficult for Prince to get into a rhythm and it was both a drive killer and way to turn a chance at six points into a field goal when key first downs would hit a receivers' hands and go bounding to the turf.

Linebackers- This is where I saw the defense as having the biggest of problems. Akeem Ayers made some flat out sensational plays, but still lacks discipline at times. Kansas St. still respected the hell out of him because they did their best to run away from him when they could, but twice he found himself in the wrong fit versus the run and opened up a whole for Thomas to pick up big chunks of yardage. Patrick Larimore got his chance at linebacker and struggled, in my opinion. He was very tentative and when he did get aggressive, it was usually in getting too close to the line of scrimmage so he was basically walking into blocks. He didn't look especially quick moving sideline to sideline and on the whole looked as inexperienced as he is from the get-go, but the problem is that it looked to me like he panicked and got worse as he tried too hard to make big plays when the simple fits and wrap up would have done the job. Sean Westgate had himself a horror of a game from my vantage point. He racked up the tackles and did well when he got into space, but that's not going to be good enough. In between the tackles, the defensive line did a solid job of letting him run without a blocker on him, but if you're playing linebacker, you have to move through traffic and Westgate struggled to do so. I would like to see Glenn Love get some more snaps next week because these problems in traffic were the same things I saw glimpses of in training camp, while Love did much better in that regard. As bad as I though the linebackers were though, we're talking about two new starters in the unit so this isn't a complete shocker.

Chuck Bullough Starting Games- Chuck Bullough has now been the UCLA defensive coordinator for 14 games. In six of those games, the opposing team has scored on their opening possession. Only once has his defense started the game with a three and out and several times the opposing team has moved the ball only for someone to come up with a turnover. Turnovers are nice, but when giving up a lot of yards before having one bail you out is the bright spot, it's not such a good thing. After the first quarter, I think Bullough called a good game and the problems UCLA had getting stops were out of his control and the responsibility of the players, but the slow starts have gone from worrying trend to flat out problem.

Pro-Set Offense- We heard so much about the revolver all offseason and throughout practice, that's all the Bruins worked out of. In the several practices I attended and all the open practices there were, there was not a single snap I or anyone I talked to from under center. Everything was revolver. During last week's podcast, I wondered if we were going to go all revolver because of the problems that would come up going pro-set with so few reps out of it. Well, we didn't go all revolver and saw our share of pro-set on Saturday, but it didn't go so well. The revolver was clearly more effective and the timing of the passing game out of the pro-set was terrible. Prince's timing with his receivers wasn't very good at all, but that problem got a lot worse out of the pro-set and I don't chalk this one up to scheme. I wonder about the coaches and their decision to lean so heavily on the revolver in the preseason, then give the pro-set as much work in the game as they did. A curious decision and one I think bit the Bruins in the butt.

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Nice point on Ayers still lacking discipline

Despite his amazing plays, I also noticed that he was out of position at times. What stood out to me were a couple of reverses where he went chasing after the pile instead of holding containment and the runner went for a big gain. He’s still a bit of an unguided missile like Reggie Carter said last year.

by Sideout11 on Sep 6, 2010 7:42 AM PDT reply actions  

Slight caveat on Sheldon Price

Is that he ALMOST got burned for a huge play biting on the QBs pump fake and was lucky the ball wasn’t catchable inbounds.

Always tough to judge the impact of corners, insofar as lockdown corners may not be involved in plays if the QB always goes the other way – so maybe we can chalk some of ksu’s refusal to throw as due to our secondary – but I’m not sure how far their placement on ‘the good’ list comes from them not being challenged much and so having less obvious shortcomings than various other units. They’re on ‘the neutral’ for me.

by britishbruin on Sep 6, 2010 7:44 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

I'd call our tackling very ugly

Great post. But plain and simple we wont win games if our tackling doesnt improve. It was absolutely atrocious. We made their running back look like a heisman candidate. All the defensive problems you listed with the linebackers, the line, and even Bullough starting games, all boiled down to our poor tackling. Chuck was calling the right plays. Our linebackers were in the right position. Our dline were occasionally shedding blockers, and our safeties were giving great run support. But we were taking the wrong angles to the ball carrier, we were diving to make tackles, and we were trying to arm tackle. What concerns me the most is us facing the spread offense where a missed tackle results in a touchdown.

Bright side off all this, is I know Neu and Chuck will get this fixed by next weekend and I think it will becomes a strength of ours. Other bright side is our defense really was flying around and in the position to make most plays, they just didnt make the tackle. Tackling is an easy fix and they are going to drill it to death by next Saturday. Because Harbough is salivating over this game film and will be putting it to the test next weekend.

by beeru on Sep 6, 2010 8:34 AM PDT reply actions  

+0.75 :)

I agree mostly but our D’s weakness boiled down to more than just atrocious tackling (& “atrocious” is the right word for it when Thomas breaks 5+ tackles). They were also out of position and getting faked out too much, too (and Ayers made that “WTF” late hit)

Rick & Chuck will fix the tackling and some of the D’s mental breakdowns for next Saturday.

by KnudsenRockne on Sep 6, 2010 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

G+B+U..

..mostly bad and ugly.

I am kinda wondering what sort of season KSU will have. It will be interesting to view this from the perspective of the first week in November.

God, it's great to be a Bruin!

by WHP '68 on Sep 6, 2010 8:41 AM PDT reply actions  

Spot on Ryan...

you nailed it regarding the entire team…especially the linebackers. The coaches have a lot of work to do with this group. It will be interesting to see how our linebackers handle Stanford’s play action pass. Larimore really struggled against KSU but it was only his first start. He will really be tested this weekend by Stanford because Andrew Luck likes to throw to his TE’s and RB’s. I hope to see some improvement from the linebackers but it going to be a real challenge for this group.

by garlon on Sep 6, 2010 9:25 AM PDT reply actions  

Rec'd

If I can’t offer cogent analysis and perceptive insight, at least I can applaud those who can. Ryan, Nestor, 03rdn9, …, you give much-appreciated clear-headedness.

by Bruinut on Sep 6, 2010 9:46 AM PDT reply actions  

I reallt disliked that pass interference call

He had inside position and looked back for the ball. That is perfect technique that they teach you. The receiver knew Hester was in a position to possibly intercept is and started the hand fighting. Bad call.

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by BruinTrouble on Sep 6, 2010 9:52 AM PDT reply actions  

Thought it was maybe borderline

but Kosher. He was grabbing the guy without looking at the ball a little earlier in the route.

by captainqtp on Sep 6, 2010 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Borderline for sure

and had Hester gotten his head around earlier, he probably would have gotten away with it, but it wasn’t a terrible calle.

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by Ryan Rosenblatt on Sep 6, 2010 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

We need to go to the pistol exclusively

The most important factor for any offense is timing. The one thing in common between all kinds of spread or option or unconventional college offenses that work great is an absolute dedication to the system and facility at running it inside-out.

On the other hand, you see plenty of programs introduce “elements of the spread” to spice things up in a half-ass way that never works (see Tuberville in Auburn, and many others).

My only worry regarding our change to the pistol is whether we’d devote enough focus to it to do it right…not just keep it around. Our coaches can’t vacillate at this point. The investment has been made we shouldn’t be selling off shares early.

by bluebland on Sep 6, 2010 10:14 AM PDT reply actions  

Pre-Season Game?

I think we held back a big part of the play book, including using more of the revolver/pistol/whatever, to save it for Stanford.

Although this was a game we could have won, it is more important to win our conference games.

I think we will open up more next week, and beat a good Stanford team.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Sep 6, 2010 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's really no excuse

It wouldn’t require opening up to stick to the formation you’ve been practicing all spring and summer. What’s more, the only time to worry about holding back is when the game is out of reach and you’re up by 30.

Our program could use the type of urgency that treats every game as extremely important, especially as there are only 12.

by bluebland on Sep 6, 2010 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

its not like we werent in a game that we couldnt have won

We just didn’t execute. Sometimes that’s how games go, get over it.

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by g.granillo on Sep 6, 2010 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

It was not good, but...

Without research the point regarding our defense to start a game is important, but how many times has our offense started a game with a 3 and out, or very close to it. We usually catch momemtum in the second quarter but can’t keep the edge, e.g. Oregon last year. Take out the stats in the fourth quarter and even go back to SC before the pass, and they’re pretty close, but then… We get tired and that’s where depth in the future will help considerably. Think about two interesting points. I am most scared when it’s 3 and more than 8 because we get burned so often; and when we have 3 and whatever, how many times does the throw be short of the first down marker. When we begin to be a monster in the second half of a hame with solid adjustments, we will win almost all of our games. Just look at SC with PC.

Excellent re view, It’s the little things that win games and we’re not that good at those things yet.

by whittier71 on Sep 6, 2010 10:35 AM PDT reply actions  

I was going to say, I didn’t think the D-line was that bad and thought it was the linebackers (especially Westgate and Larimore) that had a rough game. Then I realized there was an “ugly” section and…yea. Great, thoughtful post.

by bruinhopeful on Sep 6, 2010 10:47 AM PDT reply actions  

Defensively

this team should improve. Losing Datone and playing with two new LB starters obviously hurt us. And, although we cannot excuse their poor tackling, etc., we are a two point conversion away from tying the game. Offensively, until we start scoring more TD’s than FG’s, we will no doubt lose more games like this that we could/should win. Let’s hope the receivers got their worst game of the year out of their system. But, my other concern is yards after catch. All of the drops and a few other incompletions should have been caught. And, although many of those catches would have moved the chains, it seems like our receivers have no chance for any yards after catch. They always seemed to be double or triple teamed. The same goes for our running backs. They did a great job getting past the line of scrimmage but they never seemed to be running in space to make a big play. It will be interesting to see if this changes as the season and our familiarity with the revolver progresses.

by kkucla on Sep 6, 2010 10:53 AM PDT reply actions  

I think you can

throw Prince in with the ugly! I’m not willing to use the lack of practice time as an excuse here since we’ve seen too much of this. Had he performed great last year then had a stinker i would say it could be due to a lack of reps but its time for the kid to step up his game and lead the team to victory!

he has a chance to come up big next week and i hope he gets it done!

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by TheUclan on Sep 6, 2010 10:59 AM PDT reply actions  

The drops killed our momentum

Can’t blame prince for those, he didn’t play great or even good, but definitely not ugly. Next week we will be much better.

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by g.granillo on Sep 6, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

looking forward to that!

"Success is never final, Failure is never fatal. It's Courage that count's" - John Wooden.

by TheUclan on Sep 6, 2010 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bad but not ugly

He ran in a 11 yard TD.
He made some good fake hand offs.
Only a few of his passes were uncatchable – about half hit the receivers in the hands.

by KnudsenRockne on Sep 6, 2010 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed on All Points

I’m perfectly OK with keeping KP in the “bad” and not the “ugly”. This game was basically his training camp. If he’s going to be our guy for the rest of the season, then he needed to play at game speed and get hit a few times. Game week practice just isn’t the same thing. I’m glad that CRN let him play the whole game (though I would have liked to see RB get a series just to remind him of what game speed feels like – every #2 QB will take a meaningful snap during the season these days so it’s a good thing to use the first game to get their feet wet, IMO).

I would have added the 2-pt conversion play call to the ugly. I really hate emptying the backfield on short yardage near the endzone. I always like to have at least the threat of a run (besides a QB draw . . . which might not have been a bad call!) as well as some extra pass protection and a possible safety valve who might be able to sneak loose in the flat.

by liggphys on Sep 6, 2010 4:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Poor Start

Kansas St. is unlikely to finish the season near the top 25. With such a rough schedule, the Bruins are going to be hard pressed to improve over their 7-6 performance of last year. When we lose games we could easily win,where all it would have taken was a consistent performance, it is really disappointing. A win over Stanford next week would really take the sting out of this loss. The defense will have to play so much better to make that happen.

by 75NatChamps on Sep 6, 2010 4:34 PM PDT reply actions  

Winnable != easily won

Let’s be clear about something: UCLA could not have easily won against Kansas State. Yes, UCLA could have and probably would have won the game if we’d played better – e.g. caught more passes, tackled better and didn’t commit bonehead penalties. But tackling Thomas and Powell is not easy and catching in coverage is not easy (O.K. I’ll give ya bonehead penalties are easy to not commit).

But it was disappointing that we beat ourselves with all our mistakes. Since they were mistakes, and correctable, I am optimistic for the rest of the season.

by KnudsenRockne on Sep 6, 2010 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just wondering about Prince?

  I was at the game in Manhattan. I am not a football coach or football tactician, just a UCLA fan who has watched a lot of UCLA football in my 64 years, 20 of which were as a season ticket holder.
   In watching all the dropped passes on Saturday, I started thing how hard it must have been for the receiver. They practiced with on QB almost all training camp. they got their timing down. They adjust to the QB’s velocity on the ball and how the ball comes into them. They get a rapport with the QB and then comes the game and the QB changes.
   The new QB is rusty and his timing is off. Now the receving corps have to make adjustments and try to figure out what the QB is doing. For all the coaching gurus on the boards, is this a possibility we are over looking in grading the receivers?
   I also understand that things can change during a game. As the ebb and flow of a game progresses, best laid plans go out the window and winning the game becomes paramount. Before the game, CRN promised that both QB’s would get game time. As it turned out only Prince played.
  I’m sure Breheaut understands why Prince was giving the chance to win the game but at the same time, do we risk the chance of alienating a great young athlete?
  What I did come away from Manhattan with is a strange feeling that this isn’t Bruin football. Maybe it was 20 years of Donahue, but it just doesn’t feel yet like Bruin football.

by Twothphry on Sep 6, 2010 9:10 PM PDT reply actions  

+1

Prince overthrew, underthrew, and misplaced his passes for the most part. Elite and really good receivers would have caught more of the passes – but I feel our receivers are being overhyped. Admittedly, Presley – and any D1 receiver – should have made the 1st two catches.

by SakeBomb on Sep 7, 2010 2:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

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