[Update x 2] Randy Shannon to UCLA Speculation Gets Stronger
Tracy Pierson from BruinReportOnline reports (free story)
Bruin Report Online has heard a reliable report that Randy Shannon, the former head coach of the Miami Hurricanes, has agreed to be UCLA's new defensive coordinator..
Randy Shannon, the former head coach and defensive coordinator of the Miami Hurricanes, looks to be UCLA's next defensive coordinator.
A source who is close to one of UCLA's recruits told us that a UCLA coach called the recruit last night and told him that the deal is done for Shannon, and just the contract needed to be signed.
Other recruits have also indicated they heard the same.
It was known that Shannon was on campus Sunday to meet with UCLA Head Coach Rick Neuheisel.
Nothing has been confirmed yet but there is certainly a sense of movement on this front yet. This will probably mean that Chris Foster from the LA Times will make a quick phone call to UCLA spokesperson to write a silly "non denial" denial "story."
As Patroclus blogged Shannon's arrival in Westwood will be "a mutually beneficial hire for Neuheisel and UCLA." We will updated this post if more details appear confirming Tracy's sources. May be we are finally heading towards what appears to be a positive conclusion of the coaching search saga in Westwood. Stay tuned.
Update - (gbruin): HT to LongtimeBru for linking Jon Gold's Inside UCLA blog that reports of Randy Shannon's hiring may be premature. From Gold:
Earlier this morning, Scout.com's Tracy Pierson reported that sources close to recruits have been told that Randy Shannon has been hired as UCLA's defensive coordinator.
Shannon, the former Miami head coach, interviewed for the position on Sunday, and at that point, I was told UCLA had more interviews planned for the following week.
I'm getting conflicting answers from sources; assorted players and parents have said they've heard the same, but a source very close to the program says that it's premature and that there are still more interviews to come.
We had heard of another potential big name interview yesterday, (besides Shannon), but this may be the first suggestion of other interviews to come. Both Pierson and Gold are quite reliable, so it remains to be seen which way this goes. Shannon seems to be a great hire if that is the case. If Neuheisel has legitimate options, that may be play well, but the clock is ticking... Stay tuned.
2nd Update (A): LarryBrownSports has a post up on Shannon detailing some contractual related issues that both sides need to work out. LBS also writes that UCLA could be interested in Jets' DL coach, a former Trojan, pro-bowler and Rick's coworker from Baltimore days - Mark Carrier. Pierson himself brought up the possibility few days ago on BruinReportOnline. This is not a surprise as Carrier has previously been on Rick's radar. While Carrier has solid qualifications, Shannon IMO would be the preferable choice.
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That's not Fox, right?
I’d leave the volume on, but I’d have to turn off the picture.
greg in denver, UCLA guy for life - BruinsNation.com
by gbruin on Jan 24, 2011 12:15 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
No, that's not me. Even I don't have that many chins.
The days of the three hundred pound diva are long past. Go to YouTube and check “Manon Bedszene Anna Netrebko & Villazon.” You may find yourself asking how Villazon could remember his lines while he’s reading the letter.
I think singers have to have more than the words and the notes to get the prime roles. Most of the in-demand soprani are good looking. It’s also a fact that the mezzos who sing the trouser parts are almost always the prettiest in the cast. (And for you Philistines, a trouser part is when a woman dresses up in, I guess it would be, “anti-drag”, and is supposed to be a guy. Niklaus in Tales of Hoffman, Cherubino in Marriage of Figaro, Siebel in Faust or Octavian in Rosenkavalier are probably the most well-known trouser parts.)
I think the line needs to be changed to “It ain’t over until the incredibly hot babe sings.”
A lesson worthy of the great Jan Popper
from whom I took a class in opera. It was a large lecture. He was a brilliant teacher and very kind man.
Many of us took it for a grade and walked out with a deep appreciation of opera and a deeper appreciation of the instructor.
sjh
Wooh!
that will be so awesome if that is true!
Oh Man!
Would it EVER be!
Los Angeles Rams and the UCLA Bruins!!!!!
by Minnesota Bruinfan on Jan 25, 2011 4:28 AM PST up reply actions
While I will never forgive Foster
for his hackish reporting on UCLA, his tweets are generally pretty accurate. In any case, here’s hoping we can pull this one off!
Will the Kremlin watch come to an end?
Just when I was getting to enjoy reading the tea leaves….
Mensgym
I guess the real question is
why did this take so long? I wonder if it was waiting to resolve Chow’s money issues?
by silverlakebruin on Jan 24, 2011 11:44 AM PST reply actions
Nice use of spanish there.
The best thing you can do for your children is to love their mother. John Wooden
Or "Aladdin"
But I’ll leave you to wonder which ;-)
by OswegoBruin on Jan 24, 2011 11:18 PM PST up reply actions
Oh, that's an i?
I thought it was an L. which would make the word, Lago; or “lake.” I thought you were responding to Silver Lake.
The best thing you can do for your children is to love their mother. John Wooden
Wow.
That incredibly makes sense. My skill with the Spanish language is second only to my um… incredible penchant for coincidences.
"Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden
by OswegoBruin on Jan 25, 2011 10:05 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
here was me thinking it was an Othello reference
by britishbruin on Jan 25, 2011 9:38 PM PST up reply actions
And I win the "cultured" lottery again.
Keep it going guys.
"Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden
And boy have we UCLA fans...
been waiting!!!
by GogetemBruins on Jan 24, 2011 2:17 PM PST up reply actions
That is my take.
I think we spoke with Shannon’s camp some time ago and, since then, have been trying to see if we could make the numbers work. The timing of the Saturday announcement re: Johnson and Chow and the Sunday interview is telling, IMHO.
Now UCLA has about ten days to recruit, recruit, recruit.
by orlandobruin on Jan 24, 2011 11:47 AM PST up reply actions
New question -
Does Randy Shannon have any quality recruits that might follow him to UCLA? Anybody have any ideas on this?
Unlikely
but you never know. It seems pretty implausible that a recruit would wait this long just to see where he would go. He will certainly boost our recruiting efforts.
Of greater concern: who will he hire as his assitants?
by OswegoBruin on Jan 24, 2011 11:50 AM PST up reply actions
Well
I’m ok with the defensive assistants for the most part. Clark Lea is a little green, but he is promising. Did you have someone particular in mind that was a concern?
Do you think
we end up letting any of the defensive positional coaches go at this stage? I didn’t really think about a new DC wanting to rework the defensive coaching staff, guess I just assumed that anyone CRN had kept on until now would be staying.
Perhaps not
But that may be part of the deal with Shannon. He might want to hire his own people. I’m strongly opposed to firing Lea and Howard. I believe they’re both assets to coaching and recruiting. As for Hundley, I don’t really care. I guess we shall see.
by OswegoBruin on Jan 24, 2011 12:04 PM PST up reply actions
I like Lea & Howard too
but not at the cost of getting Shannon. No matter what DC we bring in, he is going to want to build his own staff so we’re going to lose some coaches anyways. I don’t have anything to back it up but I think Lea sticks because Shannon will need someone to coach the LB’s (he can really help develop Lea as a LB coach as well so Lea can deliver his message) because he’ll be pretty busy with gameplanning & playcalling duties.
Probably not
but you have to think that our chances of getting Tony Steward got a little better. Miami was not a finalist (down to FSU, Clemson and us) for Steward but Shannon has run some highly ranked defenses, helped get a ton of guys to the NFL and played LB.
LB's he coached at Miami include
Ray Lewis (Butkus award runner up) and Dan Morgan (Butkus award winner).
Not a bad record…
by SuperBruinMan on Jan 24, 2011 2:30 PM PST up reply actions
So far....
Well the delay hasn’t been great, but looking forward to what the new coaches can do as far as getting the kids ready to play on Saturdays.
It was obvious that on both sides of the ball things were not ideal on all fronts, hopefully all the issues are behind us and the focus will be back on the players.
Welcome to the Bruins Shannon and Johnson! Now get to work on the recruits.
the best thing about getting new coordinators
is nobody starts spring practice with a job guaranteed or any history. Everyone has the chance to bring it and show what they can do to earn minutes.
by silverlakebruin on Jan 24, 2011 12:05 PM PST reply actions
so hope this is true...
could be an absolute home run… at the very least could be a good reason for seeing a whole bunch of teal and orange on our site… i’ve hated that school since a particular day in december 1998…
"Be more concerned with your character than your reputation, because your character is what you really are, while your reputation is merely what others think you are." --John Wooden
It was perfectly reasonable to hate "the U" long before that
by Westwood Wizard on Jan 24, 2011 12:40 PM PST up reply actions
Shannon is known for being a straight arrow
He would fit well in Westwood.
Shannon and five 4 star recruits?
Shannon as DC might give us a boost signing Ray Drew, Tony Steward, Stefan McClure, Marqise Lee and/or Byron Moore – all of these uncommitted defensive recruits were looking at Miami and UCLA
actually graduated in 85, Santa Monica condo and h.locklear delays...
In my honest opinion the Bruins are still really long shots for them
The UCLA brand is still in the works for going national in that kind of recruiting. From my understanding at least, UCLA tends to stay regional for its people. I would love to have more recruiting nationally, but we need solidified success before that really starts happening.
I will cross my fingers though.
Shannon is a potential homerun hire.
He brings experience, ties to a recruiting hot bed (to put it mildly), and has the name factor that can instantly turn the perception of the program.
The funny thing is, his defensive style is a mirror image of Bullough’s. He’s not a blitz heavy coach, and prefers to sit back in a shell and tackle everything in front of the D. His defensive lines at UM were dominant, and his teams always covered and tackled extraordinarily well.
by AllHailMightyBruins on Jan 24, 2011 1:40 PM PST reply actions
"Mirror image of Bullough's" yet "his teams always covered and tackled extraordinarily well"?
Think we have a bit of a disconnect here.
"In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008
lol
I think one reason we were desperate for a more aggressive scheme from Bullough was to make up for no pass rush, bad tackling, blown assignments, soft coverage, poor fundamentals, etc.
If our D line wants to plug all the holes and pressure the passer by themselves, and our DB’s want to jam receivers to disrupt their timing and stay in their face, and everyone wants to make the tackle on the first oportunity, I’ll be ok with that.
greg in denver, UCLA guy for life - BruinsNation.com
A benefit for Shannon
Is he’s adopting high talent kids like Willis, Marsh, Owa, and Datone, not to mention Zumie, Larimore, and Olaniyan. NOT TO MENTION Riley, Hilliard… lol These kids all have more experience, more time in the weight room, and hopefully, more skills on the field.
You know
that is a pretty talented list of kids there.
I said that his defense style was a mirror image. If you are going to quote me, at least do it accurately.
I then pointed out that Shannon’s defenses covered and tacked well, both of which our defense had problems doing last year.
There was no disconnect.
by AllHailMightyBruins on Jan 24, 2011 1:55 PM PST up reply actions
AHMB -- I apologize, and meant no offense.
I realize what ytou said was that their styles mirrored one another, and only meant to point out the lack of quality in teaching and implementation by the DCs. I meant only to criticize Bullough and not you by my comment as to the “disconnect.”
Again, my apologies.
M
"In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008
No offense taken.
I was informed this morning that my opposition won’t be producing their client for deposition tomorrow after a weekend of preparation, so I’m a little angrier today than usual. I’m sure I read your tone a little differently than you intended, and I meant no disrespect in my comment.
by AllHailMightyBruins on Jan 24, 2011 3:12 PM PST up reply actions
No offense from me, either
my laugh was at M’s shot at Bullough by his noting the different end results from similar styles of play. I think we all understood your point that similar schemes alone do not imply similar results.
greg in denver, UCLA guy for life - BruinsNation.com
Umm...
Leave it to the South Campus guy to read this completely differently…since mirror images are actually opposite, I took that as meaning he was the reverse of Bullough…
But hey, what do I know. Iām just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.
Defensive enantiomers
Bullough was our L isomer, as in losing.
Hopefully Shannon will be our D, as in dominant.
greg in denver, UCLA guy for life - BruinsNation.com
Thanks
You just brought up all kinds of nightmares from those lectures in Young Hall. Thanks a lot gb.
by Nestor on Jan 24, 2011 4:14 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Ha ha. I know you miss all that South Campus beauty, too!
Well, maybe not so much.
Miss you around here, N. Hope you’re doing well!
greg in denver, UCLA guy for life - BruinsNation.com
South Campus beauty!
At least while spending hours in the basements of Boelter and MS you weren’t wishing for windows, because there wouldn’t have been anything to look at anyway.
They actually are spending a lot of money (I think) totally redesigning the Bombshelter area putting in a new dining/student center facility.
Maybe it's my age but the South Campus girls are hotter now
by KnudsenRockne on Jan 24, 2011 11:08 PM PST up reply actions
But you know what they say...
North Campus is prettier. The buildings are nice too.
by OswegoBruin on Jan 24, 2011 11:19 PM PST up reply actions
num num num!
Love me some o-chem! Completely useless to me today except to appear a nerd on a blog.
But hey, what do I know. Iām just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.
"Nerd on a blog" - Ha Ha Ha....
Hey, wait a minute!!!
greg in denver, UCLA guy for life - BruinsNation.com
ROFL
The only thing good about my 5 quarters in So. Campus had to be that “rice bowl” stuff at bomb shelter. Wasn’t sure if they ever used real chicken meat but being there felt better than stabbing myself in the eye while fiddling around w Erlenmeyer Flasks in those 8 hour chem labs.
by Nestor on Jan 24, 2011 4:46 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, but
you could get the same at North Campus (think it was there and not LuValle) without venturing south. I still love eating rice bowls with chicken and soy sauce even now. Wish I had a Yoshinoya around here…
Roses are red, violets are blue...f*** $C.
Been there, know the feeling. We're good.
Now let’s gets a solid DC signed already, for crying out loud!
"In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008
Out the door yesterday.
Discovery cutoff is next week.
by AllHailMightyBruins on Jan 25, 2011 7:00 AM PST up reply actions
Please please please
let this be true…. is it too late for our defensive early entrants to change their minds?
Go Bruins!
I think the point was made somewhere else by someone else...
…but Shannon’s pitch to recruits could include the fact that he is a new guy and willing to give anyone a shot from day one, no bias towards guys who have been in the program longer, if you’re good enough you will play, etc.
Now, maybe Heyward will give us a second look
Wasn’t he the one with some hesitation because we don’t have a DC?
He was likely
one of the first recruits that were contacted and informed that he’d been hired. Like Steward, McClure, etc etc all the guys on the fence that needed to know.
Don't like Shannon as a HC
but LOVE him as a DC. I’m crossing my fingers that this gets finalized. Just like CNC, I’m guessing the details of his compensation (pretty sure Miami is still paying him) as well as to what degree he is able to build his own staff is currently being ironed out.
The Miami defenses were fast and aggressive. We have the personnel to run that defense IMO. We’ll have our bumps but we’ll definitely see our boys get better and our yelling/cursing for missed tackles/over pursuit/stupid penalties/etc should be minimized.
I thought he did well as a head coach
He ran a clean Miami program.
Think about that for a second… That is no easy feat.
by silverlakebruin on Jan 24, 2011 2:45 PM PST up reply actions
And at a place
that makes LA fans look great in terms of fickleness!
But hey, what do I know. Iām just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.
Bland Defensive Schemes
True RS didn’t have very extraordinary defensive schemes at Miami. Further, his top-10 defenses could be attributed to the fact that the U was consistently recruiting 5 star defensive recruits.
That being said, I do think that RS will bring tremendous experience and teach some fundamentals which we desperately need. Tackling drills anyone?
As we've seen
you can have an entire defense of five star recruits and still have a crappy season =—→ see U$C
FWIW, Joe Fauria just tweeted
via @BigJoeFauria
RANDY & MIKE !!! Now there’s no more excuses. It’s on us #bruins. Now let’s get a TE Coach!
(emphasis mine)
by insomniacslounge on Jan 24, 2011 3:04 PM PST reply actions
"Now letās get a TE Coach!" lol
Fauria, time to really pay attention to those passes. We need you, big man.
Fauria was a good receiver
Presumably, he didn’t play much due to Cory Harkey being a better blocker. Now, if Harkey could start paying attention to those passes!
greg in denver, UCLA guy for life - BruinsNation.com
Tells the story, doesn't it?
I really hope Fauria gets more opportunities — and love the way he is calling on the players to step up and take responsibility.
sjh
Seriously??
These guys are TERRIBLE at keeping things under wraps lol.
I’ve never seen so many expose tweets in my life.
It's the nature of the times
See the tidal wave of tweets from all teh NFLers after Cutler’s injury yesterday? It’s what people with Twitter do these days – they think electronically.
It doesn’t mean that they still shouldn’t be more thoughtful before typing, of course.
And BigJoe didn’t call us “brugins”, so we can be happy with that.
greg in denver, UCLA guy for life - BruinsNation.com
Well now that this is out...
Would it be greedy for me to ask for someone to be specifically brought in to work with the WR corp?
Probably would be be greedy =p
considering CRN announced that Mike Johnson would be OC and WR coach.
Money and Mark Carrier?
The Mighty Bruins links to a Larry Brown Sports article that says that a hurdle to getting Shannon might be a salary figure:
<blockquoteIām told that Coach Rick Neuheisel likes Shannon but that one of the issues regarding a potential hiring could be money. As a head coach, Shannon was making approximately $1.2 million before receiving a four-year extension prior to last season. Weāre told he may have been making around $1.75 million in 2010. Comparatively, Chuck Bullough who was fired in December, was only making $325,000 as UCLAās defensive coordinator. Itās possible the school will be able to pay around what Norm Chow made, which is $500,000.>
LBS article also says that CRN plans on interviewing Jets coach (and U$C alum) Mark Carrier. Carrier went to Poly, so I can’t hate him completely.
by Westwood Wizard on Jan 24, 2011 4:21 PM PST reply actions
sorry, messed up the editing
Iām told that Coach Rick Neuheisel likes Shannon but that one of the issues regarding a potential hiring could be money. As a head coach, Shannon was making approximately $1.2 million before receiving a four-year extension prior to last season. Weāre told he may have been making around $1.75 million in 2010. Comparatively, Chuck Bullough who was fired in December, was only making $325,000 as UCLAās defensive coordinator. Itās possible the school will be able to pay around what Norm Chow made, which is $500,000.
by Westwood Wizard on Jan 24, 2011 4:21 PM PST up reply actions
This is UCLA
Isn’t money always an issue?
Funny thing is, Bullough was one of the highest paid DC’s in the Pac-10…..
Also...
Besides the money… Shannon may be a one and done. I can see QBCRN going with someone who may stick around.
But, a Shannon type coach on the cheap may be too go for QBCRN to pass up with his own j-o-b on the line.
by 3rdn2 on Jan 24, 2011 5:11 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Wow...
From Wikipedia:
When Shannon was three years old, his father was murdered. At 10, his older twin brothers became addicted to crack cocaine. His brothers and older sister died of AIDS.
Hopefully he is hired, and can provide some real inspiration to our guys.
Ya
I tried doing cocaine to inspire my brother to become a major college head coach, but it just didn’t work out well in my case.
ok
just so we’re clear- that was an apparently poor attempt at humor. I do not condone doing cocaine to help your brother get a coaching job – in case anyone was wondering.
This reminds me of Brian Price a bit
To grow up in a difficult environment, and still to overcome it and succeed shows a real strength of character. Price grew up in a hard neighborhood, and had two brothers killed by gang violence. We know what kind of person Brian Price is.
It’s awful to hear what Shannon has had to endure, but I imagine it is also a testament to his character to have achieved the success he has, despite some awful events in his life. That’s the kind of person you want serving as a mentor to younger people.
greg in denver, UCLA guy for life - BruinsNation.com
In non related news
I am hearing that a big recruit is leaning towards committing to UCLA. You might have heard his name. Jerry Neuheisel. <————-Insert sarcasm here
I would hope
that he does not soak up a scholarship. That would be lame.
Any guarantee that Jerry will be a Rose Bowl MVP in 2015?
BTW, since we’re talking about alumni’s kids. What about Steve Bono’s son, Christoph? He had a great HS career but no offers from any colleges at all.
He Visited Last Week
Sounds like he may be offered preferred walk on status.
Also, to answer Sponkey21, Jerry Neuheisel would join the UCLA team as a grayshirt, and thus would not require a scholarship, at least next year.
GO BRUINS.
He must be REALLY good
I heard that CRN had to sleep with that recruit’s mom just to get him to visit us.
by RWCBruin on Jan 24, 2011 6:49 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
From an old married guy,
That’s only a violation if you try to make more than one visit a week. ;-)
greg in denver, UCLA guy for life - BruinsNation.com
It might help
if you stopped talking about isomers in bed…
:)
But hey, what do I know. Iām just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.
by tasser10 on Jan 25, 2011 8:56 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Bigger recruit apparently leaning to UCLA
Try Jalen Grimble
@insidetroy Las Vegas (Nev.) defensive tackle Jalen Grimble officially visited #Miami last weekend and will visit #UCLA this weekend.
1 hour ago
@insidetroy While Grimble is a #USC commit, and rumors circled about him switching to #Miami, we are now hearing he is likely headed to #UCLA.
1 hour ago
Word on the street
from the Trogs is that they’re pulling his offer along with Marcus Martin’s, speculation is that they’re running low and want to give them to Hobbi and heyward
by OswegoBruin on Jan 25, 2011 12:07 AM PST up reply actions
Did Hobbi eliminated us?
I read on the wearesc.com that he is down to sc and ASU. Also, if Martin’s offer is pulled, are we high on his list? What are the chances he brings along Thomas?
Wow, those penalties hurting USC
It’s one thing to just “hear” it, but now see it affecting their recruiting..
Not Yet
My understanding from trolling around the SC blogs are that the reduced schollies don’t take effect while their appeal to the NCAA is still pending (which is why they have 24 commits right now). It’s really amazing that so much talent is still headed over there in this class given that they will have serious depth issues in the coming years.
As for Grimble, isn’t his brother a Trogan as well?
by DoubleTroubleBruin on Jan 25, 2011 8:05 AM PST up reply actions
From what i've heard
he hasn’t dropped us, and some random poster on BG posted that he loves his visit and its down to us and ASU. Conflicting sources I guess. They posted an update on scout, but i don’t have premium.
I don’t believe he’s dropped us, but who knows. We shall see.
even if its only for a short time?
I’m hoping to hear some good news concerning the DC position! Goodness knows we Bruins fans could use the spark!
"Success is never final, Failure is never fatal. It's Courage that count's" - John Wooden.
Carrier vs Shannon.
The way I see it, I will take a hiring of Carrier as a big “settle” hire. Whereas hiring Shannon will be a big win in the hiring process. Second, I don’t trust a Trogan to come in and do right by us. I would be suspicious of sabotage the whole time.
Second, to echo what Uclan just said, I am waiting with anticipation for the GOOD news. I still haven’t uncrossed my fingers, and I’ve lost all feeling in them.
The best thing you can do for your children is to love their mother. John Wooden
Agreed
Shannon is the 5 star prospect and Carrier may be a 4 star with potential. Hopefully Carrier will “help” the negotiations with Shannon.
It would be great to hear positive Shannon news soon because every time I google “Randy Shannon”, I just find articles stating that all these 5 star recruits who are Shannon guys will stay at Miami. If we can ink Shannon sooner, we’ll have a much better chance at his old recruits (as well as the ones already interested).
Let’s get it done!!!!!!!
It is indeed a settle
I think the university wants someone cheap, and that might be Carrier. Lord I hope we don’t manage to screw this up. Shannon is a homerun, but one that might be gone sooner than we wish.
"Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden
by OswegoBruin on Jan 25, 2011 10:07 AM PST up reply actions
I'm with you on the $C ties.
Don’t trust one, never will. I know Chow wasn’t technically a Trojan; but he was. I was never comfortable with him being in a position of power for our. team. I’m sure he did his best; but there was always doubt in my mind.
Love Shannon. Crossing my fingers on pulling this one out.
"I have one word for you...Be careful."
-Jose Guillen

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