Time to Burn Hundley's Redshirt
UCLA’s current quarterback situation is like a bad experience in a Choose Your Own Adventure novel.
. . . fractured jaw. Go back to page 5.
. . . fell behind in Spring and Summer. Go back to page 5.
. . . 3 interceptions in the first quarter. Go back to page 5.
The latest dead end is a broken leg for Richard Brehaut. So we’re back to Kevin Prince, who performed valiantly last week despite lesser expectations. I think we’ve chosen this adventure before.
But this year there’s a path yet untraveled. Not unconsidered (Nestor has some nice recent thoughts here,) but unventured. It is, of course, Brett Hundley, our prize recruit. Despite his objections, he’s widely viewed as our savior. He’s the brightest beacon of hope in the dark place that is currently UCLA football. And right now we could really use some hope.
So do you burn Hundley’s redshirt and lose six games of eligibility along with another 7 weeks of practice?
I say yes.
If Hundley’s as good as expected, he’s unlikely to play four years anyway. Few quarterbacks, even great ones, play before their sophomore years. If Hundley plays this season, he’s already ahead of the curve. Yes, it would be nice to maximize his training, but it may be overvalued. Especially when you consider the more important circumstances.
While the clock stands still on Hundley’s eligibility, it ticks elsewhere. Baca, Carroll, Fauria, and Franklin are all juniors. No matter how great Hundley is out of the gate, it takes time to jell with teammates. Practice reps are good, game reps are better. It would be nice for Hundley to have synergy with the aforementioned before their senior seasons. The clock also ticks for Barr, Evans, Malcolm Jones, Marvray, and Ward. They’ll be juniors. Word is it’s a tough recruiting year. Our most talented quarterback must play with our most talented weapons. If that means now, so be it. We want greatness, not goodness.
Speaking of recruiting, we can’t afford momentum loss in our pipeline. With momentum on the field already gone, losing recruits worsens the issue. I don’t have the patience for that fix. Great weapons want to play with great quarterbacks. Future talent can’t see Hundley when he’s on the sideline.
And let’s not forget this year. Hard to believe, but the Bruins control their destiny to the Rose Bowl. Sounds like a pipe dream until you look at the schedule. Each remaining game is winnable, the toughest being the last at the Coliseum. Hundley could have five games under his belt by then. But to reach the Conference Championship, the Bruins must pace better than the 14-17 they’ve posted since this quarterback adventure began. That’s a good sample size. The stakes support a change. Freshmen can perform at this level. If you don’t believe me, watch a replay of this year’s Texas game.
I was a student in the stands for Cade McNown’s first action. The quarterback situation was tenuous at game time. Injuries forced the freshman onto the field. He wasn’t a star yet, but he had talent and will. He was a spark. Four hours later, there was hope and excitement in Westwood. Four years later, we had experienced some of the best years in Bruin football history.
Many people believe the happy ending of this adventure passes through
. . . fired. Go back to page 3.
That may very well be true. But we don’t know for sure, and likely won’t get there before December. Meanwhile, the clock ticks. We have the talent. It only takes one spark to light a fireworks show. It’s time to play our star QB.
**Thank you, Bruins Nation, for the olive branch.**
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of BruinsNation's (BN) editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of BN's editors.
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At first, I disagreed with you
But your reasoning has a lot of merit. I think it really depends on Prince’s performance next week, but its definitely time to start giving Hundley some time with the 1s…
It's time to give him a legitimate shot
If he preforms well, he can play the whole season and gain some valuable experience. And, Im not exactly sure, but can’t he still redshirt next year if they burn it this year? That would be ideal because well have two senior QBs next year and he’ll be able to learn on the sideline.
We need to do what we need to do...
During Spring I wanted to him to RS him but I am soon realizing that the Pac12 South is within reach. We need to stop saving our wild cards because I never win in UNO when I have a bunch of cards leftover. Hopefully he can blossom and the D needs to step up and play with some heart…then we can make something happen. If not, then I am finally boycotting and not renewing my seats to support a less than mediocre program.
Unless Hundley Plays Defense
And is somehow able to put pressure on the opposing QB, he won’t solve our biggest problem right now. The offense is playing well enough to win if only we had a fair to middling defense.
by snorkeldorf on Oct 12, 2011 10:01 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
not sure about playing defense, giving we need him as a healthy body to backup Prince
but maybe he could be defensive coordinator?
by VeniceBruin on Oct 12, 2011 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
I understand that CTSS is looking at a tall lady currently standing in New York harbor as a punt returner
Shows the same amount of mobility and has very similar hands.
by Fox 71 on Oct 12, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
As long as
we don’t put her on special teams defending FG or PAT attempts…she might leap!
Roses are red, violets are blue...f*** $C.
If you have bad defense the out-scoring on offense is a viable strategy
It can boil down this formula: our O always gets TD;s ut our D forces a couple of FGs
Play with so much passion nothing else matters
by KnudsenRockne on Oct 12, 2011 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions
A little late be McNown but...
McNown’s freshman year in 1995…he went 5-2 in the Pac as a starter and beat SC. All we have to do is outscore them (but I guess it helps to have Ogden on the team)!
It certainly can't hurt to give him some game time,
while reaping huge benefits. As you said, “Practice reps are good, game reps are better.”
HOWEVER
Brehaut will be back this season, at some point. So, how do we juggle 3 QBs? Do we play Brehaut and Hundley, while sending Prince back to the bench? Does RB warm the bench until Prince goes down?
The best thing you can do for your children is to love their mother. John Wooden
That's a very good point
Very well written, Blur. I was definitely on the Hundley burning the red shirt wagon until MexiBruin brought up a good point of Brehaut coming back this year. It’s obviously not a given but if he does come back then what? 3 QBs? We should be able to survive the ‘Zona game with Prince. By the time practice starts for the Cal week it’ll be 10/24. That will have been 16 days since Brehaut’s injury? We’d have a better idea if he’s actually coming back closer to 3 weeks or even longer.
I’m excited to see him play and if it’s this year, that’s fine with me. If he’s ready, he’s ready. What if he turns out to produce like any other QB for the past 10 years, minus Olson’s crazy year? Will we really care if he played half way through his true freshman year?
If Hundley produces those kind of results right away.
I can assure you he’ll never see the field of play again.
The best thing you can do for your children is to love their mother. John Wooden
If you go to Hundley, you can't look back
It’s an interesting point you bring up about Brehaut’s return, though I’m skeptical about any player being able to contribute at 100% within six weeks of a broken leg. Even if he can, as much as I like him, that 14-17 record in the last 2+ years belongs to him as much as it does Prince (who is a warrior, and I also highly respect.) And if we play beyond six weeks from now, it would mean Hundley’s the unquestioned starter.
As the op stated we have seen the Prince movie
before. Every week this is what you can expect:
1. 2 nice runs for about 8-12 yards.
2. 4-5 pass so off target you would think that he was wearing a blindfold.
3. In addition to those passes you get the bunch of under thrown balls.
4. The trainers at the ready on every snap.
5. Him at best being decent
My take is that Hundley can do no worse(3 int’s in a single quarter) and has a much bigger upside. You can only get better on the field.
This move would also excite recruits.
So in effect.
If Prince starts and plays very poorly, CRN’s future flushing down the toilet along with our recruiting hopes, Hundley will play.
Why, CRN will have no other options.
It ia astounding how negative some 'fans' can be.
In the press the story s Neu’s been in contact with Hundley and his Dad about the best options for him and the team. IOW: I don’t think this is on the order of some Iscariot deal.
Play with so much passion nothing else matters
by KnudsenRockne on Oct 12, 2011 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions
DEFENSE
If the team could play some solid D and keep the mistakes on the other areas of the game to a managable level we would be ok. I strongly feel the mental errors and not being prepared or ready for the next snap of the ball are a coaching blunder. I love the future with Hundley I just hope RN doesnt just put him out there in order to save his job and ruin him.
We don't even need solid D
We just need average D that’s a little better on 3rd down. If our offense has the ball more often, it can really wear down the other team’s defense.
But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

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