#118/120: UCLA's 3rd down Conversion "Issues" Against Washington State
Bumped. - BN Eds.
Second post of the week, been working on it after reading a comment from boelterbruin70 about what issues I see with the UCLA's defense on 3rd down.
Obviously, being 118 out 120 in anything is unacceptable. Being comparable to New Mexico in any way is not the best way to draw in top-flight recruits. I could go into a long spiel about the conservatism and the culture of mediocrity and all the other issues with the UCLA football program; but that talk gets over done without a look at results on a case-by-case basis. I previously linked this video:
I highly recommend it again. I've always felt that the best way to improve is to look at what you are doing wrong and correct it. Washington State went 11-20 on 3rd down against UCLA on Saturday, and also converted their only 4th down attempt. This falls right in line with the season 3rd down conversion line of 54.84% (51-93).
The video goes in chronological order from the 1st-4th quarter and I'm going to note the time the play takes place in the video, the down and distance (a tab unecessary due to this post focusing on 3rd downs), the field position, and the time in the game. Then, I'll give my breakdown for what went wrong on each play.
0:33 3rd and 3 at the WSU 41 with 13:39 left in the 1st.
WSU is in a 4 WR set with trips to the UCLA sideline. All 3 UCLA defenders up top take care of their coverage. Hester is up tight on the lone receiver to the WSU side. WSU runs a quick RB flare that catches UCLA off guard. Hester covers the slant maybe a step too far, but comes up and makes a sound open-field tackle at 4 yards. Just a good play call early in the game. No noticeable mistakes, but there is a roughing the passer call on the DT.1:25 3rd and 2 at the
1:25 3rd and 2 at the UCLA 23 with 10:59 left in the 1st
WSU has 2 WRs to each side and a RB next to Lobbestael (last time I'm typing that name) in the shotgun. The two CBs are up tight in coverage and do a good job. Tevin McDonald is lined up 5 yards off the ball and 7 yards off the slot receiver he's covering. WSU does the obvious thing and runs a quick slant to the slot. Tevin somehow takes one more step back at the snap and is beat before the play starts. WR catches at the 19 and gets dragged down at the 15 before Dietrich Riley comes in and gets UCLA's 2nd personal foul on the opening drive with a helmet to helmet hit. Not a good start.
4:25 3rd and 1 at the WSU 30 with 2:26 left in the 1st
I have no idea what to call the formation WSU is lined up in. It is almost set up like a pistol with a FB on both sides of the QB. Really bad snap by their C to start, but it ends up being a power run in between the left guard and tackle. Iuta Tepa is in at DE, Jordan Zumalt is the OLB to the play-side and Patrick Larimore is the Mike. Zumalt comes in to plug the first blocker through the hole and does a solid job. Larimore for some reason runs right into the back of Zumalt with no idea that the RB is running less than a yard to his left. Pat actually appears to be trying to gang-tackle the lead blocker Zumalt plugged. Tepa gets engaged with the tackle kicking him out and loses contain. The RB dives forward for a 4 yard gain once Hester gets to him on the edge.
4:57 3rd and 14 at the UCLA 30 with 17 seconds left in the 1st
WSU is lined up with 4 WR, trips to the UCLA sideline. Hester is covering the sole WR to WSU's sideline, but with an 8 yard cushion. UCLA rushes 4 including a awful stunt from McDonald from the trips side, gets zero pressure on the QB who lets go of the ball after 5 seconds. The solo WR had time to get through a decent re-route by Stan McKay, get to 15 yards and turn for the ball. I can't see what Hester was doing in coverage, but he is still 2 yards away when Wilson catches the ball and falls to the ground. Not a great way to end the 1st for a defense. Giving up 3rd and 14 deflates your confidence, no matter how much you emphasize moving on as a defense.
7:41 3rd and 4 at the UCLA 37 with 4:44 left in the 2nd
WSU has one WR to the UCLA sideline, trips to the wider side of the field. I believe Andrew Abbot is up tight on the widest WR. McDonald is 7 yards of the 2nd WR and Hilliard is 6 yards off of the 3rd WR. Again, McDonald back pedals about 4 yards at the snap. The 2nd WR runs a 7 yard out to the space cleared out by the 1st WR streaking up the sideline. When the ball is thrown, McDonald is literally not in the picture. He comes up to make the tackle with no YAC. But this is just too soft of a coverage on 3rd down. The WSU QB never looks anywhere else because of how far Tevin is off the WR.
8:55 3rd and 13 at the UCLA 44 with 11:32 left in the 3rd
This is actually a stop for the defense on 3rd down. But it was a missed tackle away from another 3rd and long conversion. WSU has 2 WR to each side. McDonald is over the 2nd WR to the UCLA sideline, but is responsible for the flats in the zone coverage. He re-routes his WR a little too long and is late getting to his zone. Again, not even in the picture when the ball is thrown to the 1st WR doing a 3 yard out. He misses the tackle and Abbott comes up to stop Wilson short of the 1st down
9:12 4th and 3 at the UCLA 34 with 10:50 left in the 3rd
Trips again to the WSU sideline. I believe Abbott is 7 yards off of the 1st WR, actually backpedaling further off at the snap. Defense actually rushes 5 on a delayed blitz by Westgate. But it is useless against a quick pass out of shotgun. Play is to the 2nd WR, McDonald is up tight in coverage; but doesn't get a good jam at the line of scrimmage. WR runs a 5 yard out and gets good separation on Tevin, ends up getting tackled at 7 yards. Just a freshman getting beat in 1-on-1 coverage. Happens to the best cover guys sometimes.
9:38 3rd and 4 at the WSU 8 with 8:52 left in the 3rd
This is the play I pretty extensively broke down in my first post about Sean Westgate, which somehow got 11 recs. Appreciate that and don't see how I can top that. The basics of the play are that WSU runs two crosses over the middle of the field. Westgate covers and then indicates a switch, Larimore doesn't notice and widens out. The crossing WR that Larimore was responsible for settles in an opening. WSU TD.
10:35 3rd and 4 at the UCLA 24 with 4:43 left in the 3rd
WSU has 4 WR, two to each side. Hester is covering the 1st receiver to the WSU sideline, not on the screen and I assume he is 8 yards or so off. Kendricks is the OLB over the top of the 2nd WR, about 5 yards off the LOS. Both receivers head straight up the field. 84 on WSU catches the pass at about the 29 with Hester looking like he got beat on a route, which is odd because 84 ran the route directly to the spot where Hester was at the snap. Kendricks looks like he is chasing after Wilson for WSU, so I assume it is man coverage. 84 drags 3 UCLA defenders up to the 35 after the catch. The camera angle doesn't show what happened off screen, so I can only assume I saw it correctly.
11:20 3rd and 4 at the UCLA 34 with 0:19 left in the 3rd
WSU has trips to their own sideline again. All the UCLA defenders are giving at least 4 yards of cushion. Play is to Wilson by himself to the UCLA sideline. Hester is off of him, Kendricks is the LB to that side. Wilson runs about a 5 yard slant and the RB also releases out to that side. Every defender is watching the QB, so it's safe assume this is zone coverage underneath. It appears to be a miscommunication between Hester and Kendricks. Hester probably comes off of the WSU WR too early to take care of the RB. And Kendricks is too late reacting a widening out to the only threat to his zone. Ends up being a 8 or 9 yard gain. Miscommunication.
11:53 3rd and 1 at the WSU 32 with 13:39 left in the 4th
WSU is lined up in the same crazy formation they converted on at 4:25. Announcer calls it an inverted wishbone, which works from a descriptive standpoint. What it amounts to is the pistol formation with a FB on both sides of the QB with 2 receivers out wide. UCLA has 8 in the box. Hilliard is the up at almost an OLB spot on the bottom of the screen, Kendricks is the Mike at the bottom, Tepa is the DE to that side. Off the bat, the run is a designed belly (which is a run that the RB takes the handoff and is supposed to cut back to the opposite side). Kendricks plugs to the wrong side, Hilliard is too slow to react. Tepa makes a great play to stop a huge run. RB gets to about the 27 yard line.
12:04 3rd and 3 at the WSU 20 with 12:34 left in the 4th
WSU has 4 WR, with trips to the WSU sideline, all of the UCLA DBs at least 4 yards off. They also have 1 WR up at the top with Hester in press coverage. Kendricks is the LB to the top of the screen and is responsible for the RB out of the backfield. UCLA actually gets a little pressure with 4 rushing, Marsh gets a hand on the QB's jersey, making him step up in the pocket. The RB had flared out at the snap, with Kendricks mirroring him. When the QB stepped up, Kendricks stopped his feet and reacted like he was going to pursue the QB. Covering the QB is Larimore's responsibility on the play because the RB didn't release to his side. WSU's QB finds the uncovered RB down the sideline and he runs it in for a 20 yard TD to put WSU on top 22-14
12:39 3rd and 7 at the UCLA 30 with 8:51 left in the 4th
WSU is in the most common formation on 3rd down in this game, 4 WR, trips to the right. UCLA is in their most common coverage, at least 5 yards of cushion across the board while bringing an easy to pick-up blitz. The 1st WR up top runs a streak, with the 2nd WR running a wheel route underneath it up the sideline. This play is all on Tevin McDonald. I don't know what he was looking at, what routes he saw, what coverage he thought was being played. But whatever it is, it was wrong. QB hits the 2nd WR for a 19 yard gain on 3rd and long.
Common themes:
- Pass plays. Pretty self-explanatory, if you continually give a D1 QB a 6 yard cushion, he'll complete the majority of the throws underneath.
- Picking on the young guys. 5 completions on Tevin McDonald. That's a tough night. He made the tackles though. That is a positive. And he will certainly get better from this.
- LBs plugging the wrong gap. Only 2 running plays out of 13 plays listed. But both are successful for WSU because of gap assignment mistakes. Corrects itself with chemistry. I personally attribute this to the lack of a 100% live team-run scenario in practice.
- No pass rush. An issue throughout the season, but the WSU QB never had a threat on these plays. I understand the "play it safe" attitude of the defensive scheme, but it is an issue.
Sorry for this being so long. I figured that since this is a bye week, might as well spend a lot of time discussing the WSU game. Hope you guys enjoy this, worked hard on it.
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of BruinsNation's (BN) editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of BN's editors.
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Another Outstanding Post
Do you think that in your spare time you could be our DC for the remainder of the season?
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Hey, if someone gives me a call, I don't think I'd turn it down. haha
But this kind of stuff is what I spend most of my time doing at La Verne anyway because I’m redshirting this season. I think I’ve watched three times as much film redshirting than I did playing the last two years.
I think I’m getting a little too much credit. But I do appreciate it all.
"I have one word for you...Be careful."
-Jose Guillen
"I think Iām getting a little too much credit."
OK, how’s this?
You suck. You wouldn’t know a blind-side blitz if it came up and bit you in the nuggets. You’re so slow, it looks like you’re moving backwards.
Better?
All kidding aside, reading your posts is like sitting in on a coaches’ meeting. I know I’m not alone in really appreciating your thoughtful analyses.
Sometimes,
I forget to put smiley faces in, to explicitly let my messagee know I’m just having fun. I do hope this was obvious. :-) :-) :-)
Haha. It was clear.
The smiley faces just reinforce it.
"I have one word for you...Be careful."
-Jose Guillen
"if you continually give a D1 QB a 6 yard cushion, he'll complete the majority of the throws underneath"
#truth
Logged in just to rec. your post
Really enjoy your work.
by Westwood is the best wood on Oct 13, 2011 8:15 AM PDT reply actions
Great post
I had pinned both TD’s on Larimore. I didn’t realize that it was Kendricks had the RB for the second. It looked to me like he bit too hard on the flat and then got beat on a freelance wheel route when he was watching the QB.
It’s great to dissect these plays because I think they do show where the mistakes are being made. I didn’t realize that McDonald was targeted that often. He’ll get better.
Dana Holgorson calls that odd formation “Diamond”. The Packers use a similar formation from undercenter and the announcers usually call it “Full House”. Here are a pretty good write-ups from smartfootball.com and offensivebreakdown.blogspot.
Formerly AllHailMightyBruins
Diamond fits the formation a lot better than what the announcers were calling it.
The 2nd TD was kind of a fluke play, EK just got caught thinking a little too much. He’ll be fine.
I also don’t see McDonald as a real issue for a couple of reasons: 1. He is a really sound tackler, which is a necessity at safety. 2. He isn’t getting overpowered or confused (aside from the 19 yard pass), just getting beat in 1-on-1.
He has great size, good speed and should be one hell of a safety very soon. But a confident, untouched and experienced QB is going to complete these passes. If someone were playing NCAA Football on a PS3 they would pick on the freshman playing 5 yards off the receiver too. Everyone sees the issue, but no adjustments are being made. That is on coaching.
"I have one word for you...Be careful."
-Jose Guillen
I appreciate your write-ups, IE Angel
While I’ve been watching football for decades now, I’ve never really had a good grasp of the technical descriptions of it. Your analysis explains plays in detail without really using coach-speak. Many thanks for helping me understand why things unfold a certain way.
Roses are red, violets are blue...f*** $C.
by KSBruin on Oct 13, 2011 8:59 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
I tried to keep everything as simple as possible.
I figured if my girlfriend can understand what I’m reading, than a bunch of well-informed football fans won’t have any issues.
"I have one word for you...Be careful."
-Jose Guillen
This not looking good for me.
Simple is always good, k.i.s.s. works, but geeze your girlfriend……………………
Another outstanding job, IE
Solutions? Run live drills in practice. Change the coaching philosophy to play tighter coverage on 3rd. Pressure the QB.
Any thoughts on how we generate an effective pash rush? Our front 4 isn’t doing it by itself, and you can see the blitz coming from a mile away. In your eyes, is this all scheme or are the players just not getting it done? With Foles and Barkley coming up, getting pressure will be key.
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To me, it's a mixture of everything you mentioned to getting a pass rush.
I’d blame a lot of it on the scheme. Probably like 60%. There just isn’t any creativity with stunts, blitzes, slants. Anything. The D-line has a lot of talent and a ton of size (Definitely one of the biggest DL’s in the Pac-12), but they are getting held back to compensate for a lack of experience at LB, a ton of injuries in the secondary and general ineffectiveness.
The 2nd biggest thing I see is a absence of chemistry. And I hit on this a lot because it is the biggest on-the-field issue I see.
There was an article posted here that a Texas fan wrote about UCLA that hit it dead-on. It looks like it is just 11 talented guys out there who have never played with each other before. I believe the terminology was “a bunch of clowns going through a car-wash on a Vespa.”
Of the conversions listed here, I would pin 5 or 6 purely on miscommunication or chemistry.
I think a great deal of the issues with this defense would be non-existent if there was live-contact period in practice. You can’t just turn on a switch in football, it has to be a day-in and day-out culture. If you play soft Monday-Friday, you are going to play soft on Saturday.
"I have one word for you...Be careful."
-Jose Guillen
The point about live-contact in practice
It’s a big one. I have heard same point made by lot of ball players and I think there is serious merit to it. What I wish we had was some empirical data on how many coaches in the PAC-12 and from top 25 programs deploy live contact drills at practice. Would be interesting to check it out.
by Nestor on Oct 13, 2011 4:22 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I've heard it locally here in Tampa
One of the reasons given for the Gators being down this year is that they aren’t doing live tackling in practice.
It would probably be close to 85%+, I'd imagine.
It isn’t like the entire practice has to be full speed, bring the ball-carrier to the ground and try to kill each other.
There just have to be segments that are live. It isn’t as risk-taking as coaches make it out to be.
"I have one word for you...Be careful."
-Jose Guillen
My guess is that majority of the programs engage in live contact drills as well
Still would love to see some concrete data around it.
John Gold asked the other beat writers in the pac 12 about it
USC is the only one that does live tackling every day, but most of the others at least tackle the scout team. In that same segment Gold notes that in the positions most likely to be injured by tackling – WR, RB, etc, we are stacked with talent, and yet we still don’t do it.
Video segment is here, around 4:40 mark
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHWCbPAPUOU
by Objection Penguin on Oct 13, 2011 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Top 25 Defenses
Running with the same idea … what’s the practices like for the top 25 defenses in D1? Hard to imagine a lot of live tackling at the mid point of the season but I’m guessing they get after each other when Fall camp opens.
Next time you watch an SEC game, notice how well the DBs tackle in the open field. None of the jersey grabbing and arm tackling at the shoulder pad level we see on this team. These guys come up under control, hit em low with their shoulder pads and wrap!
Oh absolutely
Tackling seems like at a whole different level in SEC/Big-10 conferences. I watch a lot of college football (I love this game). The difference in the quality of our tackling (and game speed) with top tier programs is very noticeable.
And the other side of the coin
is that guys in the NFL love to have the big, highlight reel hit, with no wrapping up. You would think that guys good enough to play in the NFL would be very sound at thngs like tackling, but I don’t think that’s necessarily true.
It’s not a reflex, such as when a pitcher automatically breaks toward first on a ground ball to the right side. There is no automatic wrapping up. Just the opposite – there is premiditated blowing up, or at least attempts to blow up.
So maybe what we do is go try to pick someone from the SEC or the Big 10 to improve our defense. I don’t have a problem with that.
I definitely agree with looking to a big conference in the UCLA coaching future.
But I have an issue with part of that.
I don’t know how much NFL football you watch, and it’s just your opinion like this is mine, but the vast majority of those players are absolute machines tackling.
With the overloading of penalties designed to protect offensive players and limit defensive players, coupled with the fact that most backups in the NFL were 1st team All-Conference guys, it is baffling that offenses don’t have 10+ 20 yard plays a game. I attribute almost all of that to the best tackling skills on earth.
DBs and LBs are literally not allowed to touch receivers outside of 5 yards, does anyone realize how crazy that is? Not holding, not tripping, they aren’t allowed to TOUCH offensive players. That is excluding the absurd Pass Interference rules in the NFL that put the ball on the spot of the foul.
To me, nothing short of literally stabbing a player on the field should be worthy of a 30+ yard penalty.
Kind of a defensive player rant by me. But it touched a nerve somehow, haha.
"I have one word for you...Be careful."
-Jose Guillen
I have no stats to point to other than what I see on TV (with the sound off)
but I see a few tackles, usually on things where the defensive player is isolated and has no choice but to grab the offensive player and hold on until his friends show up. What I see mre is the helmet hits. Safeties trying to injure pass receivers by spearing them with a shoulder or helmet at chest level or higher.
I can’t say that I’ll keep track when I next watch an NFL game because I rarely watch each play. But I’ll try to keep track of the plays where I am watching this Sunday and give a report on Sunday night. Or maybe not, if I forget.
I cannot blame you for the sound off option.
When did announcers become universally awful throughout sports? I don’t remember this issue as a child.
"I have one word for you...Be careful."
-Jose Guillen
The NFL is a business - an entertainment business (all pro sports are)
The old joke is which type of entertainment has its own section in the paper? Sports! Which type of crime has its own section? Business!
The NFL is both: want it to appeal to a wide audience of casual viewers not people who actually know something about it.
The PI penalty is a perfect example. Most casual viewers of MNF would rather see 50-yard TD pass than a well defended pass – so you make the penalty unduly harsh for interfering with ‘show stopper plays’. It isn’t just the penalties, fame (and endorsements) depend on showmanship, too: a flamboyant but technically unsound ‘big hit’ will make the highlight reels.
At least Pro sports hasn’t sunk as low as the Music Industry which gives us boy-bands and Britney Spears (who can’t sing without autotune and other digital processing ‘cheats’).
Play with so much passion nothing else matters
by KnudsenRockne on Oct 15, 2011 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
We don't need to change coaching or anything like that
as long as we can figure out a way to double-team all the wide receivers and still rush 7 guys. I figure we only need 18 to 20 guys on the field for defense. We have scientists at UCLA who are curing all sorts of diseases. Can we not have one of these guys take a day off and figure out a way that we can get all the guys we need onto the field?
Stanford game would have been a lot closer if we had 18 guys on the field.
Somebody might have even knocked Luck down once or twice.
Though, if those DB are double-teaming the receivers with an 8 yard cushion, Luck still completes 70% of his passes.
"I have one word for you...Be careful."
-Jose Guillen
See, that's what thinking small gets you
With 12 guys, the refs assume you made a mistake. With 18 or 19, they think you’re running a trick play and all is well.
Question(s) for IE
I’ve always thought with Brehaut being less of a runner and Prince being less of a passer, our option offense could never meet its full potential because we didn’t have serious threats in every option. And therefore defenses could cheat. When Brehaut’s in, they could focus on a pass or rb run since they’re not afraid of Bre taking one to the house. When Prince is in, they focus on the run.
Is there any validity to this theory? Have you noticed defenses being able to cheat on option plays? And for that matter, the offensive playcalling has seemed conservative and predictable. Are we fairly easy to prepare for defensively?
I don't think that defenses have ever had a chance to key on Prince being in vs. RB being in
Because they’ve never rotated this year, like what we were lead to believe at the start of fall camp. Prince got hurt, then RB was uncontested, then Prince came back and threw 3 interceptions in a quarter, then RB was uncontested, then RB got hurt. And now Prince is uncontested. (I don’t see Hundley getting a real shot barring the inevitable KP injury)
I personally would love to gameplan against UCLA’s offense. Every time Jordon James goes in motion, he is going to get the ball on a fly sweep or not be involved, no worries about screens, no worries about anyone completing the deep ball with RB out. The talent is something you have to be ready for, because there is a boatload of it with 5 players 6’4" and up and a couple of elite-type speed threats, in addition to 2 RBs that will be getting carries on Sundays by 2013.
But I would pressure the hell out of whatever QB is in, put 7 or 8 in the box on every 1st and 2nd down, have a LB or safety spy the motion guy across the field, have my DEs or OLBs hit the hell out of Fauria on the line and get physical with Rosario because I don’t think he’d respond well, never think about covering Harkey, try to hit Prince whenever possible and when he throws I’m going to make the QB beat me by bringing a lot of blitzes at a poor pass-blocking OL and a QB who can’t make all the throws.
"I have one word for you...Be careful."
-Jose Guillen
Is this all about the deep threat?
The coaches have to know that these cushions are killing us on 3rd downs. Are they hoping that nixing the deep threat gives us better odds for a stop because even at a FBS worst 50% completion, we still have a chance?
Or, could it be the coaches allowing for it because of the inexperience of certain players who just don’t have game time decision making ability to make a short stop and run with a deep route or slant?
Thanks for this analysis too. I read every play and you spotted it all. A classic case of calling a play that works over and over until we stop it. Trips or 4WR and hit the soft cushion.
I put some of this on the coaches too. Somebody has got to talk to McDonald and get him to make an adjustment, especially after the 3rd or 4th burn. Maybe it’s the coaches box not getting that to Tresey on the field.
IMO, it is about not giving up big plays at all costs.
This next part is 100% speculation and probably not the case; but I want to get this out there just to see people’s thoughts.
I think that the conservative approach on defense and offense is a subconscious act by a coaching staff that knows their jobs and futures are in jeopardy if too much negative attention is drawn to the program’s performance.
Highlight reel plays get national attention, and they are trying to avoid being seen so that the national media doesn’t focus on the mess of a situation. The staff is perfectly happy with the national media looking at UCLA’s record and saying, “Well, they’re 3-2, that makes sense. They’ll probably makes a bowl game, no need to focus too much on them.”
It is impossible to adequately recap a defense that gets dissected for 4 quarters without ever giving up a play over 25 yards, in only 30 seconds or a minute. They’re going to show a short touchdown run, or Fauria hurdling a defender and go about their other, more exciting highlights and games.
There isn’t an “eye test” for anybody but the dedicated and informed fans. The majority of people will look at a 7-6 record with a bowl win and be satisfied because that has become the acceptable level of play.
I might be full of crap with that, but it is something I think is a possibility.
"I have one word for you...Be careful."
-Jose Guillen
I don't think you're full of crap at all.
No one questions the call to go for 1 to tie and go to overtime except when it doesn’t work. Boise State had a fake punt work and it was deemed a great call. If it gets stuffed, then all of a sudden Peterson is an idiot.
You have described not just our entre coaching staff, but you have managed to describe our athletic director as well.
Gelling
I was thinking something similar but went a different way. The first few games showed a serious reluctance but these past few games much less so. Going for it on 4th, calling deep routes, even a trick play, etc.
Could be that CRN wanted to keep it simple for the coaches and players. Make sure they learn their roles and establish basics, i.e. gel in the program.
After all it must be hard to expect perfection with so many new coaches and a relatively new system.
by robotchampion on Oct 17, 2011 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Another outstanding post
You confirm what most of us have been saying, soft coverage, bad linebacker angles and no rush, but your detailed analysis is really enlightening. Gives hope that some adjustments could make a huge difference.
The unanswered question is why they haven’t been made or why there is so little chemistry. Truly baffling. Maybe they will jell with more playing time from kids like Kendricks and McDonald. They’d better, for the coaches’ sake.
Bottom lime message to me: you are saying it is coaching and not talent that is the problem. I could not agree more. We have the athletes. They just need proper instruction to be put in a position to succeed.
GO BRUINS!
There is no question there is enough talent on this roster to win or compete with any team in the Pac-12 (maybe not Oregon)
This defense has the talent to be a great defense at every position.
Datone is an NFL sized DE, Owa is a freak athlete, Marsh would start at almost any school in the Pac-12, Chandler is an absolute monster physically and would be a lot better if he hadn’t switched positions 7-ish times.
Zumalt and Kendricks have enough raw talent to be All-Conference type guys. Westgate is gutty as hell and is very good in coverage.
Dye could play at the next level and would start almost anywhere. Riley is a freak. Price and Hester have the skill set and size to be great. McDonald is from a scary talented family and might be the best tackling DB on the roster.
The talent is there. It isn’t being developed or used to the best of it’s ability.
"I have one word for you...Be careful."
-Jose Guillen
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