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Quick Thoughts: DG’s Post Game Comments & the Big Picture

I know it is difficult to pin point last night's disgrace as the worst loss in the recent history of UCLA football. Man, we have a lot of ugly options to choose from last 3 years. Never mind the embarrassing failures from the Dorrell and the later years of Toledo and Donahue eras. However, as gbruin summed up so beautifully this morning, we collectively reached a tipping point at the half time.

We now have reached a point of clarity in BruinsNation and we will have lot more to say later today and this weekend.  For now though, I want to take note of Dan Guerrero's post game statements. Here they are courtesy of Jon Gold and I am excerpting here for our archival purposes:

Will there be a press conference in the next week...

"No. No, not at all. I don't know why anyone would think that we would pull the trigger like that. My philosophy on early terminations may be different then some. That's not to say I disrespect anyone else that makes a decision they have to make. Every situation is a little bit different. In our case, we have a coach who is working hard, assistant coaches who are working hard, kids are doing their best. Obviously we didn't have the outcome we wanted to day. We got thumped pretty good. We knew we were coming into a stadium that was intense, knew their team was gong to be motivated. We needed to come in and match that and we didn't do it today. We get a shot next week. I want to see us come out this week and practice hard and have a great game against Cal. I have a lot of respect for the coaching profession, and obviously Rick is a great Bruin. I brought him in here to turn this program around, and obviously we're still very much a work in progress. But we get another shot next week, and I want to see how we do."

After seven games, has this team played one game you consider to be at UCLA's level?

"If we're talking about the standard I want set, I want us to be a national contender, I want us to be Top-25 every year and to play for something. From that perspective, we're clearly not there. Proir to this game, we lost three games to teams that are nationally ranked, and we're not at that level right now. We've played well in spurts this year, had some very bright moments. But we've also played inconsistently and tonight was a good example of that. We couldn't stop anyone in that first half. Good programs, great programs get to the point where they know what they're going to be game in game out. They can have expectation of how they're going to perform. We're just not they're yet."

Do you need to talk to Rick about his future?

"Rick and I talk a lot. We talk obviously every week. Right now were going to get in a plane and go home and we'll talk about the game. We've already talked a little bit tonight to this point. Different games give you a different conversation. Obviously, this one was one where we never got it rolling. We'll talk about that. We could not stop them. Could not contain them. We need to figure out why that happened and how we can stop it from happening again."

I am not going to take apart this statement because to me these kinds of public statement are not worth much. I am surprised that he did not "blog it out." There is lot more going on behind the scenes than those canned statements given to beat reporters, who were desperately looking for any "scoop" after that kind of beatdown.

So a big meh to DG's comments. I would suggest not getting too upset about them. There are bigger things to get upset over than just canned post game remarks. We have lot more than a "coaching problem" at UCLA. This is systemic failure that has destroyed what was once one of the best football programs in the entire West Coast.

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We know many members of this amazing community are also boosters of this program. We can say that few of our frontpagers are also season ticket holders and donors to UCLA.  So we are talking to colleagues when we urge those folks right now to reflect on where we are and think ahead in terms of what you want leadership to look like at the top of UCLA football program. You should also think about how you can use the leverage you have (such as the support you have given to our athletic program - not just the football team) to exact accountability and see the change you want to see in our football program.

No, this post is not call for a "boycott." Hastily called actions never work. However, people should be thinking about how and why they should continue support this program and whether the status quo - the leadership at every level - is working. You can't be upset about the football program and demand for change, while at the same time pledge to support the basketball team by donating to Pauley renovation.  So think about that kind of commitment if you have already made them. Everything is connected to football. Everything should be on the table.

Collectively we have lot more power than you can ever imagine. If we exercise it judiciously (which we are going to do our best here at BN), we will eventually get to where we belong.

Never give up. Don't forget it's not about just a coach, it's about those four letters.

GO BRUINS.

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of BruinsNation's (BN) editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of BN's editors.

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The pressure on the Morgan Center should come from all UCLA fans and alumni. Our money will not be sent down this black hole anymore without accountability and change.

by JohnstownBruin on Oct 21, 2011 6:48 AM PDT reply actions  

I think Guerrero intends to keep Neuheisel and gloss over the negative points.

Guerrero knows that he inherited a football program that was a championship contender only a year earlier, and had recently won the Pac 10 twice. In under a decade, he has turned the team into an embarrassment which finishes in the bottom of the Pac 10/12 every season. He knows that he won’t get a third shot at a coaching hire. As soon as Guerrero fires Nueheisel, he’s sealed his own fate. So, Guerrero is doing what’s in his best interests: keeping Neuheisel around, continuing to get his salary, and praying for a miracle that we all know won’t happen.

Unfortunately, it’s in the university’s best interests to get rid of Neuheisel, sending a message to the nation that, despite what everyone saw on national tv last night, the university takes football seriously and expects excellence from every member of its community. Because I believe that the university’s interests differ from Guerrero’s, I emailed Chancellor Block this morning explaining why both Guerrero and Neuheisel have to go, and why I believe it’s best if it happens today.

by Class of 09 on Oct 21, 2011 6:51 AM PDT reply actions  

Dan Guerrero

has a huge bonus coming to him IF he finishes his contract at UCLA. Somewhere in the ball park of 700k. Hard to think he’s not making decisions with that bonus in mind. You’re probably right, he might be

by King J77 on Oct 21, 2011 7:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

whoops

He might be aware that he won’t get a third shot at a HC hire. So maybe he wants to string this along as much as possible in hopes he can make it to that fat bonus.

by King J77 on Oct 21, 2011 7:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

If it doesn't interfere with Dan's ultimate goal of becoming NCAA President...

… Rick will be allowed to see his contract through. One more win. A couple of competitive games. Be competitive against the Trojans (cover the spread of -50), and Rick is back for year 5. Call it Dan being Dan. Man-o-man, there’s gotta be some secret issues in the background of this saga . Or simply, fear of Attorney Neuheisel, The School Beater (forced to accept in-place staff upon hiring, inadequate administration support, unfair expectations, improper, yea slanderouos use of my image on that preposterous billboard, not covering my back, intentional infliction of emotional duress, improper termination without adequate cause, etc.).

U-C-L-A Fight, Fight, Fight! Go Bruins!
NBA: Where Greed Happens. RIP 10/10/11.

by Bruins78 on Oct 21, 2011 7:48 AM PDT reply actions  

Think this is the main point which we've discussed before
This is systemic failure that has destroyed what was once one of the beat football programs in the entire West Coast.

UCLA has a culture issue. It isn’t just the HC, AD or the Athletic Dept. It is a university wide problem that refuses to recognize the value nor run the Atlhetic Dept. like the Microsoft and Apple’s of the world. There really isn’t any support for the Athletic program. As long as they do enough to keep the alumni/fans entertained/pacified and can sustain the Athletic dept financially, the university as a whole could care less.

Having said that, if I’m a Urban Meyer/Chris Peterson/etc., I’d avoid UCLA like some plague. Why go somewhere where you’re not paid market value, don’t have the facilities, support of the university and constantly have to fight uphill or through the bureaucratic bs at UCLA?

IMO, the whole thing needs to be blown up but I have zero confidence this ever will happen.

by BlueReign on Oct 21, 2011 8:52 AM PDT reply actions  

Huh I meant best

And I wrote “beat.” lol

by Nestor on Oct 21, 2011 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Just a nightmare

I am not going to list all of the failings that should be cause for Rick’s firing, as that has been done by several others.
As an alum, a season seat holder and a donor I am embarrassed. We have seen last nights show too many times before to allow this staff to continue. I was a CRN supporter who has thrown in the towel. It is obvious that Rick has lost control, he has lost the respect of his players and coaches and he needs to be let go before more damage is done. We will be lucky to get 40,000 at the Rose Bowl this Sat, we will lose recruits, and some of the talent that has been recruited will transfer.. Dan needs to cut the cord and bring in someone on an interim basis while a new search is conducted. We can’t continue to be embarrassed the way we were last night ….

by uclarry on Oct 21, 2011 9:08 AM PDT reply actions  

Let's let Dan know how we feel ...

Athlethic Dept : Fax: 310-206-7047 Dan’s email – ad@athletics.ucla.edu

Don’t know that it will make a difference but let’s put some pressure on Dan …

by uclarry on Oct 21, 2011 9:12 AM PDT reply actions  

The real question for Dan Guerrero is:

in the Decade you have been responsible for the football program, has it ever played to the standards you laid out? If not, why should students, alumni, fans, or boosters have any confidence things will change with you in charge?

by silverlakebruin on Oct 21, 2011 9:24 AM PDT reply actions  

precisely.

I have no faith in DG. This is why I am dreading this next coaching search… it’s total ineptness from the top down.

So help me, if Morgan Center goes out and gets another coach that will cozy up to them and reinforce their Echo Chamber of Incompetence, I may have to take a big step back from following this team I love – for my own health and sanity as much as anything else.

by CPOBruin on Oct 21, 2011 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Long time season ticket holder

who is losing his faith. I know you didn’t want to tear into his statement but it made me sick reading it. Forget next years tickets and forget the private tailgate spots and fan travel. This Bruin needs a break from the embarrassing money pit the football program has become.

What has happened to our once proud program?

"Success is never final, Failure is never fatal. It's Courage that counts" - John Wooden.

by TheUclan on Oct 21, 2011 10:04 AM PDT reply actions  

A couple of points.

N, you said "There is lot more going on behind the scenes than those canned statements given to beat reporters, who were desperately looking for any “scoop” after that kind of beatdown." Is this solid info based on evidence which you can’t share for some reason, or is it a deduction based on evidence that we all know, or is it just wishful thinking. I hope it’s the former.

The last guy who should be picking a new head coach is Doughnut Dan Guerrerror (and no, I will not stop using a ridiculous nickname for a ridiculous guy.) That said, I’m pretty confident that Doughnut Dan will throw CTSS under the bus before he throws himself under the bus. CTSS will probably last the season, and then we’ll figure out some way to part ways. (Probably we will take so long to do it, we will be stuck with no real candidates.)

When Doughnut Dan says adieu to CTSS gets set to hire a new coach, let’s not go immediately into a state of ecstasy. Instead, let’s look at the numbers as we are now looking at CTSS’s numbers, which really aren’t that great at his prior schools or here. (Sadly, in his two four-year terms at CU and UW, his record was almost identical to the won-loss record of the last four years of his predecessor, but he hasn’t come close to that here.)

Let’s also not forget the power that BN has. In the new Pauley, the student seating was to be just on the other side of Dykstra until the firstorm erupted on BN. Likewise VetoSeto was started here, and it carried the day. Don’t underestimate the power that BN has in collating and focusing the opinion of the relevant community.

by Fox 71 on Oct 21, 2011 12:25 PM PDT reply actions  

exactly why

we need to call, fax and email Block and Dan and let them know that we will no longer support in a way that adds $$$ to the program until Neu is out. No more donations to the Wooden Club , no more $$$ to the UCLA Fund and no spending money at the Rose Bowl. Season seat holders like me are stuck with our tix and I do not beleive in a boycott or leave early plans as we should support the Student Athletes we should not pay for anything at the Rose Bowl eat and drink before hand.. The Morgan Center will understand a drop in revenue …

by uclarry on Oct 21, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I see your point about not leaving, but I disagree.

It’s obviously much easier to disagree when I don’t have season tickets. If ou’re going to go it,then I like your notion of not buying anything.

Whatever you do, tell Morgan Center, so they will understand that the drop in revenue is not because everyone suddently went on Weight Watchers.

by Fox 71 on Oct 21, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

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