Randall Carroll: "Not everyone was into the game ... as usual"
by Nestor on Oct 24, 2011 12:41 PM PDT
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PrintI have been enjoying the video segments Jon Gold and Sam Strong (Daily Bruin reporter and Gold's wingman on Inside UCLA) have been putting together, talking up UCLA football. It is pretty apparent these two enjoy talking about football and make the best out of covering a terribly dysfunctional football program (no other way to describe the UCLA program now).
After the Arizona game Jon and Sam recorded their segment from a McDonalds at Indio. It's a two part video segment (worth watching in entirety). It's the first min of second video that got my attention.
WATCH:
Jon mentioned a very interesting quote from Randal Carroll saying:
"Not everyone was into the game ... as usual"
That is crazy. Remember this was a game in which the Bruins (coaches and players) came in talking about "being in the race" for a Pac-12 divisional championship.
Gold also mentioned how some UCLA players were "kind of brawling" and "pushing and shoving each other". That is consistent with what Peter Yoon apparently reported in a local radio show in LA:
He said on the radio last night that there is group of players who are anti-Neu and the team leaders are trying to keep everything in order, but now they are being overrun by the larger group of disgruntled players.
These are reporters we generally trust and this is extremely disturbing.
If the information above is true, UCLA should be making immediate changes at the top of our dysfunctional program. It's embarrassing and unacceptable.
It is extremely disappointing that immediate changes were not made after Thursday's debacle. It only reinforces a culture of zero accountability and further strengthens the case for wholesale regime change at UCLA.
GO BRUINS.
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This is disturbing...
but not surprising. Where there’s smoke, there’s fire, and you don’t play like this without serious division among the team.
I honestly feel like we need to cut out the cancer and do something NOW to salvage things and keep all of our talented underclassmen from leaving.
UGH.
With these reports coming out as backup to the eye test
there is absolutely no reason for Neuheisel to still be in charge of your program. Once players quit on you, you aren’t getting them back.
More importantly, the fact that your AD is this out of touch should lead to him getting fired first, if your school wants to be competent in football again.
Keep up the protest campaign. It is you the fan/donor that will cause change in the program.
The substance of Randall Carroll's comments were clear to any viewer.
The team quit on national television during a game that could have kept them in the Pac-12 South race.
Formerly AllHailMightyBruins
I'd also say
that quitting on your coach and on your teammates is also unacceptable. Buck stops with Rick, to be sure, but if there are players doing anything other than focusing on winning games, that reflects poorly on them as well.
Makes me wonder whether we’ve recruited ranked recruits ahead of character recruits – which is reminiscent of the Howland issues after starting off with guys who were both talented and committed (JF,AA,JS,LMR; PAA,LRMAM,DC,MR) and having a mixed record thereafter.
not meaning to exonerate Rick here at all
just don’t want the criticism of Rick to be taken as condoning lack of commitment from players.
what, again is the point of DG retaining neu for even 5 more minutes?
As we saw last week, the team has pretty much quit on the season and there is a near-rebellion in the locker room.
And while having a vacuum on the sideline is not ideal from a recruiting perspective, recruiting for this year is going to be screwed anyways. Everybody and their uncle knows that Neu is gone at the end of the season, and with this latest news, the likelihood that player-hosts are ripping the coaches in convos with recruits.
What is the point of continuing this charade?
formerly bruinhoo
It's the UCLA way, pat
That is the point of continuing the charade.
The best thing you can do for your children is to love their mother. John Wooden
Everyone's at fault.
While I’m just like the rest of you guys demanding CRN and DG’s heads, and while it may be justifiable that the team quit on it’s coach, it’s not acceptable for the players to quit on a university and it’s alumni(donors or just fans) like they did Thursday. It’s easy to point blame in the coach’s lack of prep or motivation, but these players need to look in the mirror and blame themselves for not playing hard for the name on the helmet.
My coach uses this analogy:
he doesn’t want attack dogs that he has to tell “kill”, he wants attack dogs where he has to keep them from killing. The coach shouldn’t have to get you motivated or pumped up to play, he should be trying to calm you down because you have yourself excited to play.
"The true athlete should have character, not be a character."- John Wooden
"Always turn a negative situation into a positive situation."- Michael Jordan
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Problem is...
RN seems to be keeping his attack dogs from “killing,” by keeping his [potentially] best players on the bench.
but if not everyone was into the game
then who’s to say those players would “kill” if they were in?
That’s the doubt you put into a coach’s head when you’re not into it. And coaches don’t want guys where they have to hope they go all out every play, they want to KNOW it. Coaches need to trust that the players can do their job when the game is on the line. If a coach doesn’t know if he trust you to do something like focus and get ready for a game, how can he trust you on the field on 4th and Goal to win the game?
"The true athlete should have character, not be a character."- John Wooden
"Always turn a negative situation into a positive situation."- Michael Jordan
twitter:@GGolden87
Don't disagree with you
But that fighting spirit of an 18-21 year-old sure gets impacted if they feel they’re not being treated fairly.
Learned helplessness
I hope the new leadership is able to unteach some of this behavior.
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It won't get better until CRN is gone
It’s just the reality of the situation at this point. The Team split is one to be expected, especially when there was clearly some “favorites” being played by this coaching staff.
I bet all those who were on the field when others should have been are the Neu supporters.
Yep -
No matter who we get as a coach, it won’t be easy fixing attitudes.
One digression. Years ago, I had a guy working for me handling claims. He was not a good employee. I talked to him. I have him minimal raises. I gave him high raises. I did everything. He just basically sulked all the time. Then I convinced the powers that be (actually that were – this company is out of business) to change all the adjusters from non-managment to management employees. He got no more pay, his title stated the same, but he had a change in status. His attitude did a 180, and he was one of my best employees.
The point of this is that maybe a new coach and a new coaching staff will change one or two little things such that the situation in the locker room gets fixed. Who knows. I just agree with Hooryder that it might be a while before the attitudes get straightened out The current coaches are not the men to do that job, though, in my opinion.
P.S. I like the names of the reporters – Gold and Strong. They sound like noms de guerre to me. Any chance of getting Strong to change his name to “Blue”?
When Coach Yutz and putz continue to do...
the same things over and over again with the same non productive plays and players…attitudes will certainly sour. That shoudn’t be too hard to rectify should it?
by GogetemBruins on Oct 24, 2011 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Curious. wcomp adjusters? liability? medical claims? Caught my eye.
I was in comp for 10 years after UCLA. Found the job posted on campus in PCPC. Hired by a Bruin Claims Manager, lol. Ran into other Bruins along the way and at the WCAB. Funny.
U-C-L-A Fight, Fight, Fight! Go Bruins!
NBA: Where Greed Happens. RIP 10/10/11.
What a shame!
Coaches not having their team ready to fight and players not wiling to fight. Depressing!!
"Success is never final, Failure is never fatal. It's Courage that counts" - John Wooden.
Why isn't this on the front page of The Times, the Daily News and The Register?
Of course, this is what happens when a coach says one thing (open competition) and does another (plays favorites no matter how poorly they play). You can have the best schemes in the world, if you lie to your players they will see through it.
You would hope pride would overcome the morale problem, but no matter how you slice it, this is a leadership problem, period. It just became obvious to us all Thursday night. This is simply confirmation.
I was thinking the same
Kind of surprised Gold didn’t highlight the quote and the news about players fighting each other.
by Nestor on Oct 24, 2011 3:14 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
IIRC -- RN Had To Clean House When He Took Over
Didn’t he have some touted players who had bad attitudes under KD who he let go?
Does attitude carry over past a change in regime?
I guess it depends on the new coach — but we will definitely need someone who can get all of these players back into the fold and playing selflessly as a team.
sjh
There were transfers
always happens with a new coach.
But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.
Two creative suggestions for a new HC in that video:
Gold: Sister Mary Clarence, the old, mean nun from Sister Act
Strong: Mike Leach, dressed as Mrs. Doubtfire
by Bruinut on Oct 25, 2011 10:10 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
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