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The Morning After, Part 8: California

Did you see those kids out there last night?

Tevin McDonald had 3 interceptions.  He's a redshirt freshman, by the way.

Or how about Keenan Graham?  He had one of our 3 sacks.  And he's a redshirt sophomore.

Eric Kendricks is a redshirt freshman.  He went crazy at linebacker.

Wade Yandall was a beast on the OL.  He's a redshirt freshman, too.

Jerry Rice Jr had 2 balls thrown at him.  He caught them both.  Redshirt sophomore.

Now consider that McDonald was playing for an injured Tony Dye, Graham was getting time due to a suspended Cassius Marsh, Kendricks was filling in for a struggling Sean Westgate, Yandall was covering for a suspended Alberto Cid, and Rice was in for the suspended WR quartet of Taylor Embree, Shaquelle Evans, Randall Carroll, and Ricky Marvray.  That's fair.  His dad was as good as 20 WRs back in the day, so his son ought to be able to cover 4.

And we should mention Aramide Olaniyan (RS Fr), Jordan Zumwalt (So), Owamagbe Odighizuwa (So), Jordan James (RS Fr), Anthony Barr (So) as some other young players who have made relatively brief but promising contributions to this team.  Oh, and let's not forget our PK Tyler Gonzales (Sr).  Ok, yes, he is a senior, but he's been on the team for only 4 weeks, so we'll give him partial credit.  Just think if Devin Lucien (Fr) were playing.

Has anyone noticed that before now I have never mentioned a single Bruin player's name in the first 7 parts of The Morning After?   Rather than picking apart individual performances, I have wanted these articles to be more about the general feeling around the football team and to set a tone for the discussions as we look toward our next games.  We have the game threads and the eye tests and other places to do that.

But that's what last night's game was about.  It was about these kids stepping up big time when their opportunity came.  It was about these young kids being buried down in the depth chart showing that maybe age isn't the best way to stratify the depth chart.  Which, of course, makes the optimist in me ask, why did it take this long for their opportunity to come in the first place? 

Star-divide

We have criticized Rick Neuhesiel for many things, but probably more than anything else, we have criticized him for his conservative, play-not-to-lose philosphy.  From the run, run, pass progressions, to the unimaginative offensive sets and calls, to the awful "Punting is winning" philosophy, the football team has been predictable, vanilla, and completely unsurprising and unoriginal.   I think we have all been sorely disappointed at this aspect of Rick 2000, as we were expecting the creative dynamic offensive mind we saw in the past.

A tangent to this conservative philosophy is the idea that Neuheisel is not be playing his most skilled or explosive players in favor of older and safer players. It's hard to watch players like Zumwalt and Owa and James and Kendrick and wonder why they aren't getting more playing time.  While the older players may be less likely to be out of position or drop a punt or know the playbook all the way through, they also aren't going to give you much to separate yourself from the opponent. 

Maybe this is why we were squeaking by teams like San Jose and Oregon State and Wazzu when we felt like those could have been solid if not blowout wins.  Sure, Cal remembered that they are Cal and went nuclear on themselves with turnovers and inexplicably didn't force us to pass, but we finally quit trying to match their ineptitude that and took advantage of the opportunities.  Was anyone really concerned that that team was coming back on us last night?  I don't think it is any coincidence that we had a lot more young kids playing and contributing last night, and it was our widest margin of victory against a conference opponent not from Pullman in 3 years.

Imagine if Zumwalt or Owa or Graham had gotten real playing time last year.  Imagine if Jones had been catching punts before.  Anyone think Kendrick should be starting?  What would these players look like this year if they weren't still learning on the fly in game time?  Scary to think, isn't it?  But this just highlights another failure of the Neuheisel era.  The failure to put the best talent on the field and to suffer through the growing pains has hampered our team from reaching their upper reaches of their potential.  Sad that it took injuries and an embarrassing lack of discipline to give these young kids an opportunity, but it is encouraging to see what they can do.  I have little hope when I think about the starting lineup Rick puts on the field next week when many of our players are back from suspension. 

But I do have hope what an aggressive play-to-win sort of coach who is backed by a supportive and invested athletic director might do with these players next year.

There are finally some things to celebrate from last night's win.  And they also simply reinforce the need to replace Rick as head coach, and to get Guerrerror out of Morgan Center.

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proud of the defense

  Perhaps for the first time this year, I saw new life in the defense. They were flying around the field and making big hits and sure tackles. After Cal’s opening drive for a TD, the Bruin defense held them without a score if not for the silly turnover in the 3rd quarter mishandling a punt return by James that gave Cal short field position. 24 of 31 Bruin points were scored off of turnovers created by the Bruin defense. True, Maynard helped a lot with his inaccuracy. But the Bruin defense looked fast and hungry. I think last night was Joe Tresey fighting for his job.

  On offense, the Cal defense was totally leaving the QB Prince all alone and going for the running back on every run fake. It seemed like it took a while for UCLA and Prince to catch on, but once they did, it was off to the races for Prince. Nice running job by Prince.

by youseeellay_brewin' on Oct 30, 2011 6:48 AM PDT reply actions  

A nice game, and a worthy effort, but the body of work remains the worst since 1919

I would enjoy having us win out, so the end of a coaching career can be positive.

It will certainly be interesting to see who starts and gets the majority of playing time next week.

by Fox 71 on Oct 30, 2011 6:50 AM PDT reply actions  

Well, my worst fear about our team momentarily places itself on hold....

But I second your sentiment also. He is who he is. What he can and cannot do has been plain for all to see. Sure I left the game relieved that it was not another lackluster, clueless, utterly disappointing affair. Yet one game does not a season make.

UCLA football is in dire need of fresh direction. At the minimum, it still has some fight left to survive the rest of the season before a new chapter comes.

by Htse005 on Oct 30, 2011 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

I hope that another kid

whose last name begins with H is simply forgotten by this coaching staff and begins 2012 fresh with a new coaching staff—and a new athletic director.

by PSYCH84 on Oct 30, 2011 6:57 AM PDT reply actions  

The former starters should have to EARN their starting jobs back

Especially the suspended ones. They should have to earn their jobs back on the playing field coming off the bench. Unless and until they decisively outplay the new starters in actual games, they should not start.

by Seth Chandler on Oct 30, 2011 7:20 AM PDT reply actions  

I'd go for that

greg in denver, U.C.L.A. guy for life - BruinsNation.com

by gbruin on Oct 30, 2011 7:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

*Should* being the key word here.

I’m certainly not going to hold my breath. (And no, I don’t think you expect to see yesterday’s standouts play against ASU either.)

Roses are red, violets are blue...f*** $C.

by KSBruin on Oct 30, 2011 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Cal may not be that good, but ...
… Cal has won each of the last three. Last year, the Bears posted a 35-7 victory at Memorial Stadium and two seasons ago in 2009 Cal won for the first time in Los Angeles in the Jeff Tedford era with a 45-26 victory at The Rose Bowl. Cal started the streak that is the longest over the Bruins since a Cal series record five straight from 1990-94, with a 41-20 win over UCLA in 2009 at Memorial Stadium.

by LA Bruin on Oct 30, 2011 7:26 AM PDT reply actions  

Either Cal was the worst team we played this year by far, or

these young kids have been shortchanged for some time. They were flying all over the field.

And did you notice we covered their receivers much tighter all night?

If Prince could throw, we would have won by thirty. If …

BTW, the Rose Bowl was rocking for once. So much potential, if …

GO BRUINS!

PS: JR Jr. is a winner.

by uclahy on Oct 30, 2011 7:32 AM PDT reply actions  

Freshman, Red Shirt Freshman, Sophomore, Red Shirt Sophomore...

…these are all Rick “I-told-you-all-we-had-to-do-was-turn-it-around-now-give-me-an-extension-so-I-can-coach-my-guys-DG-and-you-can-continue-to-climb-to-the-presidency-of-the-NCAA” Neuheisel guys.

I can see it now. Win out. Play the 1st ever Pac 12 Championship game. Win it (or stay within 6 points). Rick is back. With a contract extension to boot! Fans, supporters be damned. Nice game, though. KP really kept it his head together. It probably helped him that absolutely no one is ready to come in on a moment’s blunder. Go Bruins.

U-C-L-A Fight, Fight, Fight! Go Bruins!
NBA: Where Greed Happens. RIP 10/10/11.

by Bruins78 on Oct 30, 2011 7:49 AM PDT reply actions  

If anyone recorded the game ...

and plans to rewatch — could you check something for me?

On TM’s first pick, I think we only had 10 men on the field and Cal’s QB just threw the ball right to him.

Could someone tell me if that’s the way it looks on replay?

by Achilles on Oct 30, 2011 7:55 AM PDT reply actions  

You are correct

I was in the stands and was watching our confused substitution patterns on that play and saw 2 come off and 1 come on and counted 10 and was screaming for someone to call a timeout. Fortunately, our mistake was not punished and perhaps the fact that the defense was out of sorts messed up the Cal QB as he dropped back and threw it right to McDonald. Maybe this means that the fewer players we have following Tresey’s defense, the better it works out for the Bruins.

by McNown to Farmer on Oct 30, 2011 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

A little Perspective

Perhaps this is the difference between facing the Lucks, Keenums, and Foles, and lining up against what has to be the worst QB in the conference? Maynard’s performance was awful – predictably so for anyone who has caught Cal’s televised efforts earlier this Season. Is Utah really that bad? How did Cal get 34 points last week?

The Mad Bruin

by lostnacfgop on Oct 30, 2011 8:08 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

I'm with you.

I’m really happy with yesterday’s results. As I told a friend yesterday, I would rather beat Cal than be Cal right now.

That being said, I’m going to wait and see if we look this good against ASU or SC. If we look this good against those guys, and that’s a mighty big if, then I will be through the roof.

But, it won’t change my stance on “Rick needs to go and take Dan with him.”

Winning is not a sometime thing; it's an all the time thing. You don't win once in a while; you don't do things right once in a while; you do them right all the time. Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing. ~ Vince Lombardi

by MexiBruin on Oct 30, 2011 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

I, for one, can't wait to see where we are in BCS rankings this week...

With that solid blowout of San Jose St. and this demolition of that juggernaut also known as the kal bores, coupled with some other quality wins, we should be top 3.

You know the computers gotta love us … because UCLA invented them along with the Internet.

If the human polls downgrade us for that lucky squeaker last week by the Aridzone, then we know the whole system is flat-out corrupt.

by rich87 on Oct 30, 2011 8:21 AM PDT reply actions  

Faith

Perhaps the younger players haven’t lost their faith, at least so far.

Since reading IEAngel’s insightful post, “”http://www.bruinsnation.com/2011/10/24/2512278/quitting" target="new">Quitting," I have been thinking a lot about faith, and how critical it can be for any group of people trying to accomplish something. I don’t mean religious faith, necessarily, but the human concept of faith, in general.
I believe that in order for any team to win games, even games they are “supposed” to win on paper, their coach must have complete faith in them and must demonstrate that faith relentlessly. Of course, one’s faith can be tested when their team is grossly outmatched by their opponent, but it’s not precisely “faith” that your team will win the contest that I’m talking about—it’s that faith in your players that they will do their best, that the sum of the team will be greater than just the total talent of each individual. It’s Coach’s kind of faith, the kind he had in his young men. It’s the faith Coach had in Bill Walton, when he told him he couldn’t practice because his hair was not regulation. Obviously, Coach had complete faith that Bill would make the right decision.

I do not believe Coach Neuheisal has any faith in this team. He doesn’t trust them to improve, learn, excel…he doesn’t seem to trust them at all. He doesn’t trust them to let them play to the best of their ability—his game decisions, play calling, rotations, maddening lack of clock management, all of this is a lack of faith in them. And they know it. (To me, this mistrust has become the identity of our team.)

In turn, to be successful, players must have faith in their coach. To give any leader 100%, to put your whole heart into workouts, practices, and games, you’ve got to have faith in that leader’s dedication, knowledge, skill and leadership. You don’t even have to like them, really, but you’ve got to believe in their leadership. As a player, you have to expect your coach to lean on you and insist that you do things that you may doubt you can accomplish, but you try because he or she clearly believes you can, and you trust your coach and take that leap of faith. I believe this is how some teams that may seem to become “overachievers” based upon a realistic assessment of their talent level can take down opponents they “shouldn’t beat.”

I don’t think our players trust Coach Neuheisal, so they respond to his lack of faith in them in kind. Faith requires discipline, and they’re losing that, too. They don’t have faith in him, they don’t have faith in each other, they don’t have faith in themselves.

Faith is a tricky thing. It doesn’t just develop because you wish it to. It is a dynamic, powerful thing. In this case, it’s absence has created a tremendous vacuum.

Love My Bruins

by Bruingirl83 on Oct 30, 2011 8:30 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Good Grief

Serious lack of linking ability there. Sorry.

Love My Bruins

by Bruingirl83 on Oct 30, 2011 8:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Great Post

A good explanation to where we are and why.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Oct 30, 2011 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Two Thoughts...

1) i hate to use the SCumbags for comparison, but as I flipped back and forth (cuz i wanted to see them lose), i couldn’t help but notice how many plays were being executed by Freshman & Sophomores. (i also couldn’t help and notice the SCheap SChots they kept dishing out)

2) I wonder if the freshman and sophomores that got to play last night are playing better because they still remember those fundamentals since their fresh out of high school?

by Bruin Bro on Oct 30, 2011 8:38 AM PDT reply actions  

i'd say they're playing better because they are better

Most of those guys were highly regarded, 4 (and some 5) star recruits. No one knows why they’ve been languishing on the bench all year but there’s no questioning that the majority of our freshmen and sophomores are more talented than most of the juniors and seniors.

by bucknellbruin on Oct 30, 2011 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

LAT Chris Foster is said to have "heard rumblings about our talking to Chris Peterson"

The Donut denies it, but Boise St just fattened his contract. May be true.

by 1970 on Oct 30, 2011 9:15 AM PDT reply actions  

Me also.

I wonder if Dan would pony up and if Peterson would come. He turned it down 4 years ago. He may be looking to move up in the FB world.

by 1970 on Oct 30, 2011 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Mike Leach

before I consider Chris Peterson.

Winning is not a sometime thing; it's an all the time thing. You don't win once in a while; you don't do things right once in a while; you do them right all the time. Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing. ~ Vince Lombardi

by MexiBruin on Oct 30, 2011 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Me, too.

I think the Bruins would be well-served to appont Mexi and me as the search committee and give us a budget on the order of unlimited. We will be back in about a week with a new head coach and a new AD.

by Fox 71 on Oct 30, 2011 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

AD prospects

I’m game, but before I turn Fox and Mexi loose with an generous budget, I would love to see three-five realistic AD prospects. I am convinced that we need to start with a new AD, but that search process is a whole lot different than that of a head football coach. Foley, Brandon, Hollis are not realistic. Who is out there and how do you find them, I think most athletic departments are led by people just trying to “get along” with the NCAA, the booster, the university. We need a visionary, a fundraiser and a marketer.

Go Bruins
TRM

by G0Bruins on Oct 30, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

That the thing, Fox

I don’t think we need an unlimited budget. I guarantee you we could do wonders with what they are operating on right now. Plus, the TV contract money of course.

Winning is not a sometime thing; it's an all the time thing. You don't win once in a while; you don't do things right once in a while; you do them right all the time. Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing. ~ Vince Lombardi

by MexiBruin on Oct 30, 2011 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Keep quiet, Mexi

Let me handle this budget business. My retirement fund could use a little pick-me-up.

by Fox 71 on Oct 30, 2011 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Guys

Seriously, if you really want the guy, start spelling his name right. It’s Petersen, with an E.

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Oct 30, 2011 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Lavinesque

The Lizard would routinely follow up an embarrassing loss with an unexpected win during his unfortunate tenure at UCLA. In my mind, wins like this make the previous losses look even worse as they demonstrate the talent and potential of the players on the team. This win means nothing and changes nothing – wholesale regime change is still the way to go.

I do have to give it up to the players, though – they played hard yesterday and they played smart. Our front 7 was able to get pressure on Cal’s QB and that pressure led to several of Cal’s TOs. Stupid penalties were at a minimum (we had 4 penalties for 31 yards). Locke seemed to just kick the ball better and farther after he got hurt. And while our passing game was mostly absent, KP played a smart game at QB with some great reads in the run game. He even got the O lined up in time on every play – it was the first game all year where we haven’t had to burn timeouts because of confusion on O! (Of course, Slick Rick managed his “2 minute offense” like he didn’t have any timeouts but hey, that’s not on KP). Way to represent the 4 letters, fellas!

by liggphys on Oct 30, 2011 9:17 AM PDT reply actions  

Exactly

We have the talent to have beaten every team except, perhaps,
Stanford. and, we should have played the trees closer. Let’s celebrate this win but also understand what it says about a staff that is not bringing out the full potential of our talent.

I want to win out so RN can leave with his head up. But he still has to leave.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Oct 30, 2011 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

+1

could.not.agree.more.

by Bruin Bro on Oct 30, 2011 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

agree on the poor clock management

“(Of course, Slick Rick managed his "2 minute offense" like he didn’t have any timeouts but hey, that’s not on KP).”

I have to agree with that. There was horrible clock management by CRN at the end of the 1st half. He had three timeouts to burn but left them in his pocket. This caused the clock to run down and maybe caused Prince to rush things. I thought they should have been able to draw up some nice plays to get a field goal out of field position at the Cal 47 yard line if they had just called timeout.

by youseeellay_brewin' on Oct 30, 2011 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Some of your classes are incorrect

Kendricks and Olaniyan are RS Fr (graduated HS in 2010)

by 805Bruin on Oct 30, 2011 9:31 AM PDT reply actions  

ugh. Fixed.

My fault for writing at 2 am. And I even checked against the roster on the official site. Thanks for catching that.

greg in denver, U.C.L.A. guy for life - BruinsNation.com

by gbruin on Oct 30, 2011 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

from worst to not so cursed

Hats off to the team and yes, the coaches, for a solid wine, best game of the year for the Bruins. We didn’t seem to miss all the benched stars at all. Kevin P did not play safe or scared and got 163 yards rushing and executing the pistol to perfection. And the defense was solid. So take a deep breath and remember that Arizona was one game, a bad one, and the other seven were pretty bad too, but this game was very good.

by guruofbruins on Oct 30, 2011 9:50 AM PDT reply actions  

Arizona was far worse than this game was good

This game was just “one game” as well, and against a pretty bad opponent, or perhaps it’s more accurate to say, a really bad quarterback.

by Tydides on Oct 30, 2011 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

It was a good win

Even though Cal is not a good team, they might not have scored at all had we not fumbled and dropped the punt return. Your post mentioned all the good things about our young players, but Prince, Colemen, and Lock played a good game, they should deserve a lot of credits as well. This game definitely has shown that we are a much better team with the young linebackers.

by NNL on Oct 30, 2011 10:00 AM PDT reply actions  

It was a good audition

The best part about the young guys stepping up and performing is that it shows the cupboard will not be bare for the next coach. All those morons talking about academics or not having the talent on the team can consider themselves served.

by Tydides on Oct 30, 2011 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

credit...

to Wade Yandall for playing a solid game. I just watched the replay and he was real physical at the point of attack. I can’t stand the pistol offense but it was the right formula to beat Cal last night. We were missing a few receivers so we had to pound the ball down Cal’s throat. This was the best effort by the offensive line of the entire season.

by garlon on Oct 30, 2011 10:03 AM PDT reply actions  

Malcolm Jones

He’s another who is still not getting starting time. In his case I do understand, he has played and not been a game breaker. But I can’t help thinking his talent is also not being used to it’s ability. I also wonder why Josh Smith is still not taking the punts. He has been a consistent return guy. He’s the only one that seems to get us any yards after the punt. I loved watching these young guys playing their hearts out last night. It also looked like Riley was the one getting the calls from the sideline last night and running the d on the field. Another young leader. (All the best to you DR.) I also witnessed a lot of consulting on the o-line, players teaching and coordinating much better.

  My feeling is, win or lose, if there is a future for ucla football it is in these young guys. And, as you say, they only get experience by playing. Imagine how good they can be. This has been my biggest disappointment with Neu, not putting the better talent on the field. I’m going to be really angry next week if these young, aggressive, talented men aren’t on the field. I’ve also been calling for more time for red-shirt soph. Marvray. IMO, he’s the one receiver (with Evans) who knows how to make space and who fights for every catch.

Oh yah, could we get more Faurier passes?

Overall though, last evening was a blast at the Rose Bowl. The crowd started off ho-hum (can you blame us), but came alive watching the aggressiveness on the field. That was what I remember Bruin football looking like. The best line of the evening came from Jeff, where somewhere in the 2nd or 3rd quarter he got on the mike and yelled…“We’re winning!”, the crowd both roared and laughed. The best off field event, wow, the flash mob dance was brilliant.

Bruins, I do hope many will show next week for the ASU game. I don’t know which Neu will show up and with which team. But I think last night’s effort ought to be followed up with support in the stands. And Neu, please put the talent on the field, they deserve to play!

Go Bruins!

by uclaluv on Oct 30, 2011 10:16 AM PDT reply actions  

Rice Jr.

This in no way undermines the point you are making, but Rice did have one drop in the 3rd quarter. “1st and 10 at CAL 49 Kevin Prince pass incomplete to Jerry Rice Jr..”

However, it was really good to see him out there and he also made some nice down field blocks for the running game. I also really like what it does for our recruiting when that great name is announced.

Go Bruins!

by uclaluv on Oct 30, 2011 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Was it a different Neu?

I don’t think so. The only difference I saw was that he was forced, by circumstances, to play some of the newer, very talented kids.

We still played a very conservative game plan — and yes, it worked, but only because Cal was so bad.

And, we still played the “kicking is winning” game and, IIRC punted inside Cal’s 40.

To me, this is a KD win — one where the players’ talent overcame the scheme and pulled out a victory. I mean really, an interception when we had 10 guys on the field — that’s not great coaching.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Oct 30, 2011 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

To answer your question about Smith

I’d assume he didn’t get chance at returns because he was one of the only 2 experienced receivers we had. They were probably trying to keep him fresh.

by captainqtp on Oct 30, 2011 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks, that actually makes sense.

But I hope he’s back there again instead of Embree in the upcoming games.

Go Bruins!

by uclaluv on Oct 30, 2011 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

If anything

this game took me from sad and distant to happy and angry.

Happy because we won at homecoming against a team we should have beaten and that had beaten us 3 straight times.

Angry because the better players haven’t been playing.

Angry because the effort is sporadic.

Angry because this team does its worst when the spotlight is on, which makes me dread next week already.

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Oct 30, 2011 10:44 AM PDT reply actions  

There was an embarrassing moment at the Rose Bowl yesterday...

What the heck was up with the students doing a “flash mob” routine of Lady Gaga between the 3rd and 4th quarters? This may fly for women’s gymnastics, but myself and most alumni in my area were just shaking our heads for the duration of the song.

by Bruined 4 Life on Oct 30, 2011 11:17 AM PDT reply actions  

Our alumni section loved it!

It was creative, had been well planned, and well executed.

Go Bruins!

by uclaluv on Oct 30, 2011 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

"Lady Gaga," a monster invented in the music industry laboratory, and "creative" really don't belong in the same sentence.

That’s my opinion, of course.

But let’s just try an experiment. Anyone remember that Mozart guy? The stuff he wrote has been played continuously for several hundred years. Then there’s Boy George.

I rest my case.

by Fox 71 on Oct 30, 2011 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think Karen was saying the flash mob by the students was creative.

Winning is not a sometime thing; it's an all the time thing. You don't win once in a while; you don't do things right once in a while; you do them right all the time. Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing. ~ Vince Lombardi

by MexiBruin on Oct 30, 2011 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks, that was what I was referring to!

Thanks Mexi for defending my honor!

Go Bruins!

by uclaluv on Oct 30, 2011 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mozart Flash Mob Dance...

Now that would be something to see! Are you down for doing the choreography Fox?

Go Bruins!

by uclaluv on Oct 30, 2011 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Precisely because our young players were so much more effective than the "veterans"

watch how fast they get benched again. I can’t stand the ineptitude of this coaching staff!

by BruinMW on Oct 30, 2011 11:18 AM PDT reply actions  

Not to apologize for RN's weaknesses as Coach but...

We don’t really have a quarterback who can effectively throw the ball downfield, so he is forced into a more conservative stance.

Obviously this win doesn’t mean much in terms of the bigger picture, but it is still nice that we had some good individual performances and the players showed a little bit of spark.

by waters96 on Oct 30, 2011 11:27 AM PDT reply actions  

our pass protection on the OL was pretty suspect again yesterday

we did not pick up blitzes at all well, particularly in the 1st half.

by VeniceBruin on Oct 30, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree...

There are many reasons we have an inept offense. And certainly RN’s coaching is one of the prominent ones.

by waters96 on Oct 30, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

He has the QB's HE recruited and trained

don’t like what he has, blame him. I’m tired of excuses being made for RN. This is his team, it reflects on the job he is doing and on no one else.

And, FWIW, KP is a warrior; if everyone played as hard to reach full potential, we’d win more games in spite of the coaching.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Oct 30, 2011 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

right

and I’m not even buying that Prince can’t throw the ball – he did as a freshman. Not sure what role injury has played in his subsequent throwing.

by VeniceBruin on Oct 30, 2011 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

And, let's not forget that it was RN who moved to the pistol

with QB’s (and other talent) he recruited to play in another system.

I think VeniseBruin is right, I think injuries have affected Prince’s ability to throw.

Finally, people complain that KP is injury prone. It’s RN’s system, and his weak O line, that has put KP at risk from the day he took over at QB.

What was RN’s advice to KP for yesterday’s game? Lower your head and run?

I don’t know about many of you, but I was worried KP, because he was carrying so many times, was going to get hurt. And, then, we burn Hundley and deprive our next coach of a year of Hundley’s services.

Sorry, blaming our QB’s for the mess RN has made at that position really pisses me off.

If anyone should be mad, it should be RB who came as a highly rated drop back passer and has been twisted into something else.

Stop making excuses, at the expense of the players, for the very poor performance of the coaches.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Oct 30, 2011 7:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

He didn't recruit Prince

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Oct 30, 2011 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think we should not go overboard here...

Not wishing to be negative on a sunny Sunday, but I don’t think it is correct to argue ‘based on that game, clearly Tevin McDonald should be playing more – he had 3 picks!!’

The picks he had weren’t the result of making a great play, playing great coverage, getting a jump on the receiver etc – they were flat-out horrible throws, as evidenced by the fact he was able to run around for a few seconds afterwards with no Cal player anywhere near him. Aaron Hester had a great INT under pressure from the receiver; Tevin had his gift-wrapped by Maynard.

And we’ve seen how Tevin has been picked on by opponents this year when in the game – IEAngel’s excellent 3rd-down-vs-WSU post noted that 5 of the 3rd down conversions were on passes where it was Tevin’s responsibility to break it up.

He’s a good kid, he’s young, he has talent and has a promising future, and I’m not trying to be harsh towards him here. But taking this game and implying that on the basis of this game he should be getting more time ahead of Tony Dye and that his lack of playing time is an indictment on the coaching staff just seems out of keeping with the analysis and analytic grounding of this community. Again, I don’t want to be harsh towards Tevin, but I think it’s unfair to Tony Dye to misrepresent the greatness of Tevin McDonald. And I get that this falls into a broader sense that CRN isn’t playing the right guys – but you can’t make that criticism without undermining the other guys who also deserve our support. I guess all I mean to say in this is that out of fairness to all players, we shouldn’t exaggerate performances of the guys with whom they are competing for playing time.

by VeniceBruin on Oct 30, 2011 11:35 AM PDT reply actions  

On the other hand...

there is something to being in the right place at the right time ala Rahim two years ago when he got his 3 picks. Yes, the passes were right to him, but he was also where the ball was being thrown. This might be a result of him watching the qb’s eyes or instinct. But it does show something he did right.

Go Bruins!

by uclaluv on Oct 30, 2011 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure I buy your premise

you can be completely out of your ‘correct’ position and make an interception – not saying that he was out of position, just that I don’t know you can look at it and say he did something great by being where Maynard decided to throw it – particularly as I don’t know how our ‘missing man’ 10-player defense is supposed to line up! What he did do was make the catch, which isn’t always a given.

FWIW, my favorite defensive play of the game was Abbot sniffing out a pass in the flat, beating the blocker, making a strong hit and wrapping up the receiver behind the line of scrimmage. That seemed a combination of a great read, good play to shed the blocker, and great technique finishing the tackle. I’ve seen us fail to make that play a bunch of times.

by VeniceBruin on Oct 30, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

the kid got three interceptions...

give him credit. He is only a freshman but he showed good instincts. He is still learning how to play the position but all signs point toward a bright future. Freshman are going to take their lumps but there is no substitute for talent.

by garlon on Oct 30, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

VB

The way you comment on this blog the pattern is often pretty clear. Time and time again you argue for the sake of being argumentative. It’s getting tiring.

by Nestor on Oct 30, 2011 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

relax Venice

Don’t play hurt. That’s beneath you. FWIW, I didn’t delete anything. But please don’t keep up the complaints how this place is run because you know how that will end.

But to respond to your concerns about my post…When you imply that I’m saying that Tevin McDonald should get more playing time based on making 3 picks, I’d say that is what I’m saying. The kid got on the field and made plays. We’ll likely need know if he was in exactly the right spot or not, but it really doesn’t matter. What other DB has had 3 picks in a game this year? The kid produced, he deserves PT.

However, I never wrote he should have been starting in front of Tony Dye. Dye was a true leader on the D, both in his play (leading tackler before his injury vs SJSU) and heart (selected as captain by his teammates). But since Dye’s injury, we had a junior and a redshirt sophomore playing in front of McDonald, a redshirt freshman. I think a reasonable and logical (and only partly emotional) argument can be made that based on the production from these three replacements for Dye that McDonald has been most successful. So I believe that with Dye out for the year, McDonald should get first crack at the FS spot.

Maybe Tevin just got the lucky draw of playing against Wild Thing Maynard. Or maybe he was the best all along. If we want to follow the last possibility, it could fit in with our suspicions that there are other young players sitting behind older but less productive or talented players.

Maybe it was a coincidence that when we had a larger contingent of our young players on the field, we had our best team performance of the season by a longshot. We haven’t seen that collection of plays and energy on both sides of the ball…well…ever this year. Maybe those kids, rookie mistakes and all, would have served Rick better on the field than the steady more reliable veterans who can’t make the plays the younger players can. That’s not any agenda of mine vs Rick. It’s just a suggestion, based on some data (though the interpretation is far from certain) for what we have seen this year.

OI know that’s a lot of ifs and maybes. Of course, maybe it was just Cal. The real answer, as usual, is probably somewhere in the middle.

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by gbruin on Oct 30, 2011 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Go Bears ?

First congrats to the Bruin players and coaches for getting up off the the mat and getting it done….special thanks to #87 from Cal, whose cheap shot on the Bruins punter seemed to light a fire for UCLA.

However, as the game played out. I found myself more interested in how Cal has gone from conference contender that used to challenge SC to bottom-feeder so quickly…….Is MAC refugee Zach Maynard really better than any of your QB recruits ? Or is he playing to keep half-brother Keenan Allen happy ? It’s not a good situation either way. This was the first game in a long long time that UCLA clearly had the edge in QB play…..I thought Cal had the better players Saturday night, and with the depleted UCLA receivers corps, should have been able to counter the limited UCLA offense, yet they made the same mistakes repeatedly……I know they have a lot of young players, but has anyone begun to seriously question Tedford and his staff ? They seemed to have gotten a ton of leeway from beating SC ten years ago, and it seems that if any heat develops, someone says “Tom Holmoe” and they immediately give him a contract extension, and thanks him profusely for remaining in Berkeley…….

…..Not trying to rub it in, Bear fans (losing to UCLA is bad enough), but just curious as to how the burden of an consistently underachieving football team is being handled, in contrast to the daily soap opera here at UCLA…… We also have a coach whom almost everyone likes personally, but can’t deliver results……Is Tedford vulnerable ? If not, why ? I guarantee that every Cal player walking off that field last night felt they had the better team and should have won……

by jkaflagg on Oct 30, 2011 5:51 PM PDT reply actions  

Tough year for Cal

For some reason, they didn’t have a QB waiting in the wings for this year.

Andd they haven’t had their home stadium to play in.

But for the life of me I don’t know why they didn’t stack the box with so many for our receivers gone. I think the QB runs really took them by surprise, which is weird. I also think the turnovers totally deflated them.

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Oct 30, 2011 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I still think

that Tedford wil turn it around, if not this year then next.

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Oct 30, 2011 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cal just needs to be patient.

Never mind that when facing our pistol offense, with KP as our passer, and with us missing 4 receivers, somehow Cal didn’t prepare to stop the run. They should have put all 11 guys in the box and dare us to throw the ball.

But no worries. They’ll figure it out. Cal fans just need to keep hoping Tedford will turn the corner.

greg in denver, U.C.L.A. guy for life - BruinsNation.com

by gbruin on Oct 31, 2011 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

And with the facilities they have coming

they will be a force in recruiting. They wouldn’t have gotten all those facilities without Tedford (and certainly their AD).

I am just a little confused about their QB situation. Why are they starting some transfer from Buffalo? How have they not had a QB waiting in the wings?

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Oct 31, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Question about Franklin...

This thread is kind of relevant as it’s talking about giving other players playing time, so I’ll ask here, what are people’s thoughts on Franklin? I’ve read and/or heard that he has the homerun threat and he’s basically been the starter whenever he’s available. I just haven’t seen it. I remember the big TD run against $c last year, but that’s really about it. I can’t remember him out running anyone. And he has the added risk of fumbling.

Coleman seems to be a much more solid and consistent back to me, and he never seems to fumble. The only fumble I can recall, as a matter of fact, is when he was hit and got a concussion. Quite understandable in that situation.

Plus, with Franklin getting less time, Malcolm Jones could see more carries. I’d love to see what kind of potential he has. So far he’s been given next to no opportunities.

by SonOfWestwood93 on Oct 30, 2011 6:35 PM PDT reply actions  

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