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The Good, Bad and Ugly of UCLA Football and the Number 4

I missed parts of the Stanford game so I thought I would make this Good, Bad and Ugly a bit more statistical.  The Stanford game at times showed what many here have known and talked about for a while:  This UCLA football team has a lot of talent.  Enough talent to compete with the number 4 team in the nation on the road.  But for mistakes, poor coaching decisions, this game could have been much closer. 

The Good

RN has recruited well.  How well?  Only once in the last 4 years has Stanford had a better recruiting class than UCLA.  And IMO we should not be too quick to condemn the effort RN has done in this regard. 

RN has vastly out preformed Karl Dorrell in this regard.  Dorrell needed to go in part because he could not recruit.  Dorrell used academic requirements as an excuse and quite frankly left the cupboard bare when he was fired, here is an old story on the topic:

Such players are all over the Pacific-10 conference, and while Bruins coach Karl Dorrell is asked to compete with USC, Oregon, Arizona State and Cal on the field, the playing field when it comes to recruiting is heavily skewed

"They are not going to win there, with any type of consistency, until they change the approach," said one former UCLA assistant who asked not to be identified. "It doesn't matter who the coach is, or how much they pay him. Until UCLA gets serious about winning, and they start easing it (the university's admissions standard) so a few more kids can get in, you can't win consistently there." 

UCLA athletic director Dan Guerrero declined an interview for this story after being informed of his topic. But Dorrell did speak. 

"There's tremendous challenges for recruiting that we have to be mindful of when we recruit," said Dorrell, the embattled coach who could be on the UCLA sideline for the last time Saturday when the Bruins face No. 8 USC at the Coliseum.

Dorrell's failure to recruit led to his downfall and gave RN a huge disadvantage when he started.  Dorrell tried to blame that on UCLA academics but RN has proved him wrong, as does Stanford with their even tougher academics. RN has done a solid job recruiting, which is part of the coach's job that people often forget.  However, the bad comes with the next part of the coach's job.  

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The Bad

Before the season started Tasser 10 reported on this stunning statistical analysis by CFBMATRIX

Over the last 4 years, no one in the PAC10 now 12, has a worse net game effect than Coach Neuheisel.  -4 games per year in a 12 game season is one of the worst marks in the country for coaches still employed.   Sure, it is easy to point out that UCLA is an elite recruiting school and thus there are very few opportunities to add net positive wins.  However, UCLA has an annual recruiting rank over the last 4 years above Oregon and they are not losing 4+ games per year.

Normally, to turn this problem around, the rule of thumb is our motto - Recruit to win,, not win to recruit.  But, how do you recruit much better than a #15 rank over the last 4 years!  So if recruiting is not the issue then how about the scheduling.  Well, the PAC10 played a fully balanced 5/5 schedule so nothing unusual about that which takes us to the only factor left.  The Coaching Staff.

That's right, RN coaching is costing us four games a year.  While statistics can be deceiving, on what we have seen so far this year, it is hard to argue with this conclusion.

The Ugly

Some here say that RN's problems are he is too conservative.  I appreciate the point but I see it slightly different.  I think calling him conservative is an insult to true conservative coaches.  A conservative coach does the same thing over and over again, does not take chances, but generally they do those things well because they practice them so much. 

I don't think RN coaching style has any logic to it.  Look against Stanford he did do some outside the box and/or "gutsy" calls.  For example, he called for an onside kick in the third quarter.  Of course it was poorly done and seemed an odd time to call it but it was not conservative.  The low moment for the season to me being 12 man on the field penalty after a time out in the Texas game on a key third down.  A conservative coach would have known exactly what he wanted in that case. 

To me his biggest problem is I have never seen a coach worse at managing his players.  It almost seems like the backups are better than the starters.  Joe Fauria was dominating against Stanford, yet RN refused to call a play to him in past weeks and he is the second string TE.  Everyone here knows the Prince vs. Brehaut situation.  But how about this?  Starting Defense vs. Backup Defense for tackling in the front seven.  All UCLA fans agree tackling has been a huge problem this year.  So let's talk some tackling statistics. 

 

  • On the starting Defensive Line.  Let's use the Stanford game as an example.  Datone Jones again had 0 tackles.  Justin Edison had one assist.  Damon Holmes had 2 tackles and 1 assist and Cassius March had 2 tackles.  Thus the starting DL had 4 tackles and 2 assists for a total of 6. 
  • On the Backup DL Tepa had 1 Tackle, Odighizuwa One Assist, Donovan Carter 2 tackles and 3 assists and Eenesa 3 tackles.  Thus the backup DL, in less plays, had 6 tackles and 4 assists for a total of 10.   4 more tackles for the backups in less plays.  
  • The Linebackers had a good game as a starting unit but again, there were issues especially when you get into the season stats.  Glen Love is hurt and supposed to start but so far this year he has been badly outplayed by Jordan Zumwalt who was the second leading tackler in the Stanford game and the only person to have a tackle for a loss.  Eric Kendricks, the third leading tackler in the game has more tackles, more tackles for a loss and more sacks then Sean Westgate, not just for this game but for the season.  Yet Westgate starts in front of him.  While middle linebacker Pat Larimore is the leading tackler, it can be argued that the other two starting LBs are not as good as there backups.   

I could go on and on. 

Maybe it is too conservative, maybe RN is too indecisive.  All I know is it is not academics or players, and that four years is enough.  

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I don’t agree that CRN didn’t have players when he became the coach. He just doesn’t seem to use his personnel correctly. Also, everyone knows that the football coaches at UCLA have had to climb too many fences dude to the UCLA academic policy which is so silly because CAL doesn’t seem to have an issue at all. It speaks to the “nose in the air” attitude that surrounds UCLA. So yes it difficult for any coach.

But to say that KD didn’t recruit well was not true, he like CRN had an issue with personnel. But he had lots of NFL kids that he recruited and most of them START for teams in the NFL.

We have had more talent than 80% of the teams in college football. We don’t have the depth in the trenches to compete with the elite teams but we have had and still have more than enough talent to compete much better than we have in the last 7 years.

So yes we need a new coach only because the last two coaches have not been able to develop the talent and put the talent in positions to be successful. Also I would say there has been a total miss on the coaching staff as far as talent evaluation.

Its like the same story every year no matter who is the coach. Both KD and CRN are good guys but neither has done well enough coaching.

by Hooryder on Oct 4, 2011 11:34 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

You can disagree all you want

But Rivals doesn’t, since this is UCLA’s class rankings according to them over both eras:
2003 – 36th
2004 – 34th
2005 – 26th
2006 – 17th
2007 – 40th

2008 – 13th
2009 – 14th
2010 – 8th
2011 – 45th

There is no doubt here that the talent that CRN started with is not as good as what he currently has, or should have taking development into account. The numbers show that KD could not recruit and CRN can (or could), and just because he isn’t having success now isn’t license to revise history.

by Tydides on Oct 4, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Moreover,

the Rivals rankings don’t measure “completeness” of recruiting classes. I could be wrong, but I think they essentially just count stars and compute team averages, Maybe they’re weighted averages, but still essentially just a “star quality” rating.

So, by recruiting an occasional Maurice Jones-Drew and Marcedes Lewis, your rivals rankings will be decent—even if you have totally neglected the offensive and defensive lines. Some would say that these positions are, you know, kind of important.

Coach Neuheisel, in effect, called “BS” on the academic excuses, and refused to concede the L.A. recruiting war to that other place. In both skill positions and unglamorous trench positions, Coach Neuheisel has done MUCH better than his predecessor. It’s only too bad that his coaching acumen isn’t at the same high level as his recruiting acumen.

by Bruinut on Oct 4, 2011 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

re: Recruiting...

I said it when Dorrell was fired and I’ll say it again after CRN has had some stellar classes (according to the ranking systems), recruiting rankings are overrated. The most important factor is whether the coach can use the players he has in the best possible way to succeed. Focusing on the class rankings is always a dodgy proposition, particularly since a lot of it is determined by which schools are interested in the recruit, hence the ND effect of showing interest in a recruit, the services giving that recruit a four or five star, and then disappointing when they arrive on campus.

Boise State is now an elite program not because they have a natural recruiting base, but because they have an excellent coach and program. The same with other teams, including those who’ve not reached elite status like Baylor, but there’s a definite upward trend, despite not having top recruits.

The fact is that a coach applies for a job knowing the situation. As Leach talked about in his Q&A, there are two lists, a crappy school list and a school with potential list. CRN got the latter and had failed. In some ways, Rick reminds me of an old Cal coach, Keith Gilbertson, with a one year sorta good record of 9-4, and then a lot of mediocrity, despite having a lot of talent on his squads.

Rick’s issue is that he has no idea how to use this group of players, and with no plan, there’s no philosophy. As a result, you have a bunch of individuals going on the field with different effort levels, all trying to make some sort of sense. If you’re Fauria, how do you make sense out of the fact that when you’re thrown the ball, you either score or make things happen, but the ball doesn’t come your way. Meanwhile, you look at Stanford throw to TE’s all game.

CRN is like a line cook given a piece of Kobe beef, and he decides to cook it well done. You can have quality all day long, but if you don’t know what to do with it, it doesn’t matter.

Lawrence Ross

by alpha1906 on Oct 4, 2011 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think the analysis of the D-line has a few holes.

Tackles and assists aren’t the best way to look at a DL’s effectiveness or impact on a game.
Ideally, your DL plugs gaps and allows for your LBs to meet the ball carrier at the line of scrimmage. A great deal of those DL tackles and assists are coming 4-5 yards downfield after the ball-carrier has broken through the initial line of scrimmage.

I think the defensive line’s issue is less about the starters and more about overall effectiveness in the front 7. Good defenses can rotate two deep and not have a drop-off. Which is how this defense was hyped in fall camp. There are no impact players in the front 7 and far too many underachieving players. There is no Spencer Havner or Chillar or the Ball twins, Bruce Davis, Brian Price. There isn’t a playmaker among the front 7, IMO.

Out of position, poor execution, zero aggressiveness in the run or blitz game. This defense will continue to give up 30 points a game without a culture change this season.

"I have one word for you...Be careful."
-Jose Guillen

by IE Angel on Oct 4, 2011 1:04 PM PDT reply actions  

It wasn't tackling poor or otherwise but...

as the BRUINS took the field first to start the second half in Palo Alto, they had to navigate through the Stanford Band that had formed a tunnel for the HOME team to run through.Some BRUINS ran around the formation…while others ran right down the middle.
Well, this agitated the Band to no end and they started to “close in”on the BRUIN FB team as they. raced to their sideline.

Bad move on the Bands part…it was some of the hardest hitting the BRUIN FB team did that night as they cleared the way of Stanfords nerd herd.

by GogetemBruins on Oct 4, 2011 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Granted, we look down on the 'band' at the farm,

but be aware there are quite a few current and former band members here.

Roses are red, violets are blue...f*** $C.

by KSBruin on Oct 4, 2011 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hold Stanfords Band in unusally high contempt...

And the following comments were restricted to that band only.If you even call it a “Band”.

by GogetemBruins on Oct 4, 2011 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Understood

and agreed. Just making sure.

Roses are red, violets are blue...f*** $C.

by KSBruin on Oct 5, 2011 5:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

I see your point

Tackles are not the best way to judge lineman especially interior lineman. But I also feel many of those backups have outplayed the starters. But it is hard to say “my eyes” see it better.

However, even under your point there should be concern based on tackles for the LBs.

A better statistical analysis would

by DCBruins on Oct 4, 2011 3:03 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

To finish

Would be +/- but I don’t have the time to do it.

by DCBruins on Oct 4, 2011 3:04 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I agree 100% with the overall point you're making though, this is just my take on DL analysis in general.

Our front 7 is lack luster under any measure. No point in arguing semantics.

"I have one word for you...Be careful."
-Jose Guillen

by IE Angel on Oct 4, 2011 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Linebackers

I think that our d-line is getting pressure, causing hurries, and stopping the run at the line. But our linebackers are completely failing at everything. Passing up the middle. Closing gaps with extra blockers on a run. Containing the outside sweeps, screens, and short passes.

Not to mention tackling. Tackling begins and ends with linebackers. They set the tone, they make the first hit.

We are struggling at linebacker.

by robotchampion on Oct 4, 2011 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Have you been watching the same UCLA games the rest of us have?

Whatever pressure has been made on the qb has been late pressure do to good coverage by the db’s. We are losing the one on one battles up front and can only apply pressure when the pocket changes shape and the qb is forced to move.

by rsmbruinfan on Oct 4, 2011 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

D line has 3 main responsibilities.

Fill holes or shoot gaps at the line to stop the run there. Not happening.

Keep the O line off our linebackers, leaving them free to make plays. Not happening.

Get upfield on pass plays to pressure the quarterback. Not happening.

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by gbruin on Oct 5, 2011 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well, you left out

Flex muscles, pound chest and glare at crowd after a tackle.

There are more, but you see the point..

by Fox 71 on Oct 5, 2011 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whoa, I disagree

@gbruin – I used to play D-line and that is not at all the job. The role is to stay in ur gap and push ur man back. That’s it. Anything more and the whole team is messed up. It’s the responsibility of the LB’s to read the play and plug the gap.

All too often a d-lineman will jump his gap to go for the sack and then leave 1-2 blockers to mess everyone else, or in our case jump end containment to go for the sack leaving us wide open for screen, play action, or RB release.

As for pressure. You are right they could be much better. Still when the QB has a quick out always open, no amount of pressure is going to help. The LBs job is to shut down that first read to force the QB onto the second which takes more time to develop and then allows the d-line to get 5-6 yards passed huge blockers to get the QB.

@rsmbruinfan – first, we are getting played. Every single team has run the screen and play action on us so much. Both plays take away the advantage of superior talent with Little experience. Forces our guys to hold back a little just in case it’s a stunt. In the last few games our guys are figuring this out, but still it’s the LB or Safety job to stop the screen or play action.

Second, we are getting pressure, but like mentioned above, the QB has the quick out always available which makes it impossible to get a sack. It would be nice if we had a freak of nature NFL d-lineman but without tht it’s classic football fundamentals. And, our LBs in zone need to shut down those seam routes up the middle.

by robotchampion on Oct 13, 2011 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Linebackers are poor

Westgate is slow and gets thrown around, every game.
Larimore is totally overrated. Disagree? Please watch the first half of the Stanford game and key on him. You will see a guy who looks confused on what to do, attacks the wrong holes, and can’t shed a block.

With that said, I love Kendricks. The dude sheds blocks and flys around. There is a sense of urgency in the way he plays that none of the other linebackers seem to possess.

by bornagainbruin on Oct 5, 2011 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

That is a very telling piece DC...

to illustrate your well crafted points…How many of you think WSU will figure out what UCLA is doing (And how to stop it!) before RN n Co. can do the same???

by GogetemBruins on Oct 4, 2011 1:25 PM PDT reply actions  

I expect a game like last year, that will be much closer than it needs to be.

The best thing you can do for your children is to love their mother. John Wooden

by MexiBruin on Oct 4, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I expect to win

but project we lose.

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Oct 4, 2011 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

My projection of our defensive play calling

On run plays, Edison will get blown up, the linebackers won’t be able to shed any blockers (except Kedricks) and Dye and Riley will make most of the stops.

On pass plays, we will consistently rush 3 or 4 guys, giving their QB enough time to find open guys either in the seems or underneath the zone coverage. Tresey will send one blitz in the second quarter, and then one in the fourth quarter. However, they won’t make a difference as their QB will already be in a rhythm.

(I really hate being this pessimistic, but it’s the same thing we’ve seen 5 games in a row)

by bornagainbruin on Oct 5, 2011 11:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Recruiting in depth

All these are from scout (I know some people consider rivals more accurate, but really to be honest the differences are just splitting hairs)

Class 2002 – Rank #7
Class 2003 – Rank #35
Class 2004 – Rank #24
Class 2005 – Rank #24
Class 2006 – Rank #20
Class 2007 – Rank #36
Class 2008 – Rank #10
Class 2009 Rank #5
Class 2010 Rank #8
Class 2011 Rank #56

We have talent for sure. We have in fact top 10 talent game ready, but it is so blatantly obvious that we don’t have top 10 coaching to go along with it… no even top 25 coaching or maybe even top 50…

I hate the trojans.

by JoJoBruin on Oct 4, 2011 1:38 PM PDT reply actions  

Bad coaching and the offensive line

It’s frightening the coaches don’t see what is so plain to everyone else: Westgate,and Edison are over matched, and much worse than their backups. How Zumwalt, probably our best linebacker, is a backup, is beyond me. And both Donovan Carter and Epenesa look far superior to Edison when in the game. Bad judgement or just laziness from the coaches.

I have one disagreement about the talent, however. The offensive line isn’t talented. The best offensive line recruits in the past 5 years are off this years team(Hasiak,Suo-Filo,Abel). They haven’t had an offensive lineman drafted in the NFL in a decade and it shows with the lack of pass protection. The offensive tackles are guys who were projected to be guards,but that we’ve had to make offensive tackles out of necessity. I’d like to believe this is why Harkey starts over Fauria, as he’s essentially a 6th offensive lineman in there to help block.

This isn’t an excuse for Neuheisel. He’s been horrible coach and should be fired. The teams primarily weakness the year has been their defense, and Neuheisel is responsible for hiring the incompetent Tresey..

by OCBRUIN on Oct 4, 2011 2:02 PM PDT reply actions  

Defense to offense. He ended up getting drafted as an offensive lineman.

That was my era on campus.

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by Bruins78 on Oct 4, 2011 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Uh no, I think that only works for Oklahoma.

Stoops did that in his first year and was extremely successful. I can’t think of one dl that may fit that bill though. You may want to try a hale or someone like that though maybe.

by rsmbruinfan on Oct 4, 2011 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can't believe (actually I do) we're still talking about O line issues...

… in-as-much-as this was Rick’s #1, and #1a complaint/issue from Day 1 / Season 1.

The announcers during Stanford game were incredulous that our O line was regularly getting beat 5 on 3, versus Stanford D line.

IIRC, back in Irv Eatman’s day, the overall defensive attitude was about looking to hurt somebody every game. The spirit of Kenny Easley, and Don Rogers ruled. Very, very tough-minded defense. They converted Irv for his size, quickness, and they wanted to add some mix-it-up spicy flavor to the offensive line.

I still say, we don’t seem to have the right emotional attitude on the field. Oh, how quick we are to celebrate even the slightest singular play (simple stop behind the line of scrimmage yields a pose, a primal scream, chest pounding, and no less than 6 others getting in on the act. But a long gainer on the ground, a catch by a wide open receiver, heck, even a touchdown elicits very little hand-wringing, angry barking, or even the “oh-hell-no-not-on-my-watch” body reaction. Why isn’t James Washington a defensive coordinator? He sounds nice, but he played with a serious bite. I don’t know.

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by Bruins78 on Oct 4, 2011 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

is it just me, or does James Washington sound like a serious Neuheisel apologist on air?

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by MexiBruin on Oct 4, 2011 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

JW said RN is the ...

“Right man for the Job” on last weeks show. A case could be made as MexiBruin suggests.

by GogetemBruins on Oct 4, 2011 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yup

This is one of my greatest frustrations. This team is well stocked with talent. However, the coaches have failed to develop the talent and appropriately/creatively utilize the talent. It’s beyond frustrating to see the same guys get owned game after game yet they continue to get the majority of PT.

Another poster commented that the coaches themselves believed that we’d make the jump in 2010. We had an extraordinary amount of injuries last year so I’ll give them a pass. Lots of people who have been following UCLA FB pegged 2011 as the year we’d make the jump. This was the year where the more talented players would also have experience as well. It’s logical to conclude that we’d make that step up.

Instead, we’re looking at the same crap that we’ve since since Neu arrived. The guy is totally lost. He really has no clue on how to develop the talent he recruited nor put them in positions to produce. Our team doesn’t even have an identity. If you ask someone what UCLA FB is all about, the answers aren’t pretty. If we had a legit coach, the state of the program would not be where it is today. I have no doubt about it. It’s frustrating, sad and pathetic IMO.

by BlueReign on Oct 4, 2011 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I see 3 more wins, which brings us to 5.

Washington St.
California
Colorado
Bruins will have to dig down really deep to find more.
I feel we’re headed straight for a do or die SC game.
Yikes. My blood pressure is already goin up a few notches.
(Elizabeth, I’m comin to join ya, honey!)

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by Bruins78 on Oct 4, 2011 2:03 PM PDT reply actions  

Definitely a must win

Call me crazy, but I think we’ll win this week as well. In the past several years we’ve managed to win games like this despite ourselves. It’ll be closer than it should be, of course.

by SonOfWestwood93 on Oct 4, 2011 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Recruiting can only get you so far!

Recruiting is a big part of college athletics, but it’s not the most important thing. For example, Steve Lavin probably one of the best recruiters UCLA basketball has ever seen, but when he took the reigns look what happened. CRN is like a Steve Lavin, he can recruit with the best of coaches but he’s just an OK coach and that one thing he does great just doesn’t get it done.

by Trojanswearskirts on Oct 4, 2011 5:42 PM PDT reply actions  

The DL

is probably the most common unit that comes up whenever I talk with someone about our team. As a whole they just don’t seem to be doing much, whether it be tackles or disrupting plays. We can’t seem to get any sort of pressure on the QB, even when we blitz.

by SonOfWestwood93 on Oct 4, 2011 11:14 PM PDT reply actions  

Coaching.

It’s interesting that you brought up the onside kick as an example of “outside the box” coaching. I think the difference, when speaking of coaching, is not the when but the when AND why. One shouldn’t try an onside kick just to shake things up unless it’s for a reason. When Chip Kelly called for the OSK against ’furd last year, sure, it was an attempt to change the course of the game. But it was made very clear that the kick was a result of game film showing a tendency by the player on that side of the field to turn his head and start moving back to block as the kicker approached the tee. The fact that ’furd had already scored 3 times (ugh) gave the coaches ample opportunity to confirm the tendency. Further, Beard had been coached to watch that player and note if he was indeed shading back before he attempted the OSK. THAT is coaching.

Another example is the fake punt attempted successfully against OrSt last season. In the game just prior (Arizona @ Autzen), the Ducks usual punter, Jackson Rice, was out (apparently with mononucleosis) and had been replaced by the backup, Alejandro Maldonado, who had preserved his redshirt until the UA game and who is actually the backup kicker and was only punting because he was the only viable backup. Maldonado is several inches shorter than Rice, who is a big dude, and had a snap sail right over his head for a safety against UA. The Duck coaching staff noted this and used it against OrSt to great effect the following week, knowing the Baver coaching staff had watched the tape and certainly told his punt return squad to be aware of possible miscues in the Ducks punting game. Another example of coaching based on noting tendencies and planning for contingencies rather than switching things up for the sake of switching things up. Lane Kiffen has tried to take a page from CK by trying for 2-point conversions at an abnormally high rate. Difference is, the Ducks look for the 2-point try on EVERY XPA, but only attempt the try (outside of necessity, see the BCSNCG) based on what the holder, whose call it is, sees. Coaching.

Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.

by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Oct 4, 2011 11:17 PM PDT reply actions  

Good point on using the "When" and the "Why"

For our part, we were simply amazed that our coaches actually made the leap to the “When” at all, because for a decade, “When” has been “Never”. Alas, I don’t think we should expect them to transcend to “When AND Why”.

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by gbruin on Oct 5, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Now g, let's not be too critical.

Every now and then the wheel stops spinning on “onsides kick.” The tough part is when lands on “onsides kick” but it’s actually 3rd and four. That’s why it takes so long to get the plays in – you have to re-spin the wheel. That’s why I’ve been lobbying for weeks to get Pat Sajac on the coaching staff. It would result in quicker play calling.

by Fox 71 on Oct 5, 2011 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Heh.

Leaving things to chance is truly the hallmark of great coaching since time immemorial.

Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.

by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Oct 5, 2011 11:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

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