Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Pro Quality. Fan Perspective.
Login-facebook
Around SBN: Celtics Vs. Heat Game 1: Game Time, TV Schedule And More

Spaulding Roundup: Energetic Practices and Alternate Uniform Fallout

Don't hold your breath waiting for this visual effect on Saturday night. (Photo by Kevork Djansezian/Getty Images)

We have reached the middle of $C Week, and Neu was pleased with an energetic, but focused and workmanlike practice on Tuesday. That's about all he had to say to the media after practice, leaving the beat writers to come up with multiple ways to discuss how UCLA's defensive backs respect Southern Cal's passing game and Disciple-of-the-Humanitarian Matt Barkley. Sean Westgate and Isaiah Bowens sat out of practice with injuries. Adam Maya talked with Derrick Coleman and discussed the importance of his play to the Bruins' moments of success in 2011, while Peter Yoon published his (mediocre) grades for the 2011 UCLA season heading into the regular season finale.

Of course, yesterday saw news break of the alternate road uniforms that Morgan Center has chosen to outfit the team in for the Southern Cal game. Achilies wrote about the ridiculousness of changing from the traditional all-home outfits that mark the rivalry game. Coach Neuheisel, along with Pete Carroll reached an agreement to revive this old practice, fighting against DG's heros in the NCAA bureaucracy in the process. When rumors of the change first broke over the weekend, Neu spoke not only of his continuing support of this tradition, but of a lack of awareness that such a change was in the cards.

Neuheisel said Sunday night that he was not aware of any uniform change for this game and hinted that he'd like to keep the tradition of UCLA wearing blue and USC wearing red.

"No one’s told me anything," he said. "We’re blue and gold as far as I know. I’ve heard the rumor, but I have no indication of that. ... I love the home uniforms. I think it’s one of the classic games in college football."

Artistic merits of the uniforms aside, I don't see anything inherently wrong with changing things up on occasion by wearing an alternate uniform. As Achilies mentioned yesterday, players tend to like it, and it may bring a little extra something to the team and the game. However, that 'little extra something' should not need to come out for the U$C game...

Star-divide

And while Neu seems to be of the same mind, the players do have mixed reactions to the change.

"I don't really care about any of that stuff," senior running back Derrick Coleman said. "All I'm really focused on is beating them. The uniforms don't mean anything if you lose. I don't really care what happens, I just want to beat the Trojans. At the end of the day that's what we all came here to do."

Said junior cornerback Aaron Hester: "It would give us that extra confidence. You look good, you feel good, you play good. A lot of people around the country think our uniforms look good now but having something different, like an alternate would be nice. I think this is the right time to bring them out."

As both Yoon and Adam Maya noted, Tony Dye raised an interesting point about the uniform change - as a team captain, neither he or any other team leaders had any input into the decision to abandon the home uniform tradition. Along with Coach Neuheisel being out of the loop, it appears that Morgan Center kept the players and the rest of the program out of the loop as well.

"Those equipment people won't budge for anybody," he said. "It's kind of frustrating because I'm a captain and they wouldn't tell me, but I'm praying and hoping it's all-white. But that's me just guessing. ... You know I've been pushing for all this, but I gave up on all that at the beginning of the season."

To be fair, Tony likes the idea of the alternate uniform. But as he told Peter Yoon, he had given up on having one available at the start of the year. Though Dan Guerrero told us in his newsletter 'blog' that they have been working with Adidas for months on the plan, the team's knowledge of or input into the design was not wanted. Morgan Center's stupidity in timing the unveiling aside, not giving the team input into when to wear the uniforms looks like yet another fail. I don't know if this is common with other college programs and alternate uniforms - it is in baseball - but it should not have been so hard for someone in Morgan Center to meet with Coach Neuheisel and the team captains to tell them about the availability of the alternates, and that while they need to be used at least once in 2011 (assuming that Adidas needs to exposure in order to sell the replicas), the decision of when to wear them is a team decision.

Given when other schools tend to break out the alternates, the Thursday night ESPN game in Arizona - with a total monopoly on the national CFB audence - would have been the logical time for all parties to unleash the road uniforms. Or the team's visit to Pac-12 newcomer Utah, or maybe harnessing the excitement of alternates in the battle with Andrew Luck up at the Farm. Anytime but the crosstown rivalry. I wish I could say that this lack of awareness of tradition, the unwillingness to cooperate and communicate even with other parts of the athletic department, or the complete tone-deafness of Dan Guerrero and his band of administrators was a one-time thing. Alas, this is just another example of how Morgan Center is supremely out-of-touch and constantly behind the pack, trying to play catch up in a too-little, too-late PR effort that is embarrassing at best. This latest saga is just more fuel on the fire for why we need wholesale regime change in Westwood.

Comment 70 comments  |  0 recs  | 

Do you like this story?

Comments

Display:

Really?

Were going to break these uniforms out against the renewal of a great tradition? The biggest thrill to me when I was in school was when the teams took the field in their home uni’s; the blue and the red. It was one of the greatest sights in college football. The coach knows nothing about it which seems weird. I guess Dan wants to show us he’s “marketing”.

by UCLA2020 on Nov 23, 2011 5:11 AM PST reply actions  

As is just about everything connected with the athletic program

every single solitary part of which is directed by Doughnut Dan.

by Fox 71 on Nov 23, 2011 5:56 AM PST up reply actions  

+1

Having CRN stand up there for days saying he has no clue what his own teams uniforms will be is another massive epic fail. He’s the head coach and been kept out of the loop? Donut eating, knuckle dragging primates… %#$%^&%^*&.

by Bruin'96 on Nov 23, 2011 9:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Unbelievable

The coach and captains have no clue or input into what is going on. Oh well, time to open up another bottle of Chianti and another case of doughnuts!

by Odysseus on Nov 23, 2011 10:04 AM PST up reply actions  

I think this is what they do

for Pee Wee teams, isn’t it?

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Nov 23, 2011 10:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Surrender White

Hopefully our performance on the field doesn’t lead to these uniforms being referred to as UCLA’s “Surrender White” uniforms.

by FilmBruin on Nov 23, 2011 5:55 AM PST reply actions  

In the big picture

We can certainly call this a “surrender white” mindset from UCLA Athletics.

by Nestor on Nov 23, 2011 6:04 AM PST up reply actions  

My thoughts exactly......

We will be walking surrender flags.

Brilliant

by SPNB on Nov 23, 2011 6:05 AM PST up reply actions  

+ 1

As given to us “live, live, live” from the SURRENDER MONKEYS in the zoo that is Morgan Ctr.

by 612landfair on Nov 23, 2011 7:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Exactly my fear...

“Surrender flag” jerseys.

Marshmallow toughness.

Toilet-paper defense.

I would have loved it if they pulled out the all white uniforms when we played IN THE SNOW at Utah, ’cause it would have looked like a brilliant camouflage tactic.

But here? Holy freaking bleep.

I’m past facepalm. This is slamming my head into a brick wall bad.

"It's not who you are underneath. It's what you DO that defines you."

by Meriones on Nov 23, 2011 3:22 PM PST up reply actions  

dan guerrero

Cannot get out of his own way. From his asinine Texas stadium game to this unnecessary costume change, the guy doesn’t get it.

by Strathmore&Gayley on Nov 23, 2011 6:21 AM PST via iPhone app reply actions  

Guys, if donut dan isn't out of a job soon

I think my head is going to implode. The epicness level of his fail exceeds all comprehension.

by bruinbunz on Nov 23, 2011 6:29 AM PST reply actions  

What makes anyone think DG will be fired?

Not to be pessimistic but is it not the chancellor who makes the hiring and firing decisions wrt the athletic director? If that is the case, does anyone truly believe that Carnesale cares enough about athletics to make the move to clean house in the Morgan Center? I would love to see Guerreror gone as much as anyone, but I’m just not hopeful.

by rgalloucla on Nov 23, 2011 6:42 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

If the players were the ones pushing this, it would be understandable at least.

But to learn neither they nor the Head Coach were even consulted is mind-boggling.

Hope Hester is right.

GO BRUINS! BEAT SUC!

by uclahy on Nov 23, 2011 7:12 AM PST reply actions  

all that is wrong with the white unis.

first of all, I like the idea of all white unis, helmets, jerseys, and pants. I envisioned something like this being based on the basketball unis we wore year before last; the ones with the yellow numerals. Seeing the script UCLA on a white helmet would be NICE.

BUT! to break them out now smacks of desparation. Maybe the pressure is getting to the Donut eater and he wanted to show he could think outside the box. Dan, you are no longer even in the playground.

It seems poorly planned, last minute, not at all something that has taken months as Donut would have us believe. Add the evidence we have that neither The Rick nor any players were consulted, and it just adds up to a colossal cluster F bomb.

FINALLY, if i’m Athletic Director, (and I might be soon enough ;) why bother revealing my intentions now? Why not keep it absolutely quiet up until the players show up to get dressed, and find them in their lockers? Hell, I would even have them warm up in their standard blue unis. Then you head out for the game and catch everybody by surprise. THAT’s how you make a splash.

Winning is not a sometime thing; it's an all the time thing. You don't win once in a while; you don't do things right once in a while; you do them right all the time. Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing. ~ Vince Lombardi

by MexiBruin on Nov 23, 2011 7:32 AM PST reply actions  

Surprising the team with alternate unis after warming up

would definitely amp up the team… the mindset of the athletic department is no longer laughable, its just shameful..SMH.

At least give the team some input, what if they don’t like it!

by seas98 on Nov 23, 2011 9:35 AM PST up reply actions  

I Can Handle The White Unis...

But NOT white helmets…..Just because you tweak the uniforms shouldn’t mean you have to tweak the helmets as well. This is just NOT good and all the more reason why DG has gots to go.

Los Angeles Rams and the UCLA Bruins!!!!!

by Minnesota Bruinfan on Nov 23, 2011 11:03 AM PST up reply actions  

What's so special about the helmets?

The Notre Dame helmets this year have been really cool. I really liked the different finish they did on the gold for the clover helmet.

by King J77 on Nov 23, 2011 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Notre Dame helmets?

At least I now know 1 person who liked them! Those ND buckets we’re butt ugly, they looked like Rocher chocolate wrappers, gilted? really? I know they’re a catholic school, but gilting was last popular during the spanish inquisition….

wanting to be able we certainly wished,
... but being allowed to try we didn`t dare

by c bruin 84 on Nov 23, 2011 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I liked them, lol

Except for the big clover on the side. But even that was cool as the four leaf clover was not an add on sticker rather part of the design of the helmet and under the clear coat protection on the helmet.

Main point was that I don’t see the problem with changing the helmet. Like I said on another post, I’d like a flat black helmet.

by King J77 on Nov 23, 2011 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Changing uniforms

Has lost all its impact now that it is done by everyone every year. Does this actually work on anyone anymore? Notre Dame has messed with their uniforms big time this year. I like the new gold helmets but I do not like the shamrock on the side of them. Really tacky looking. Also, they have another set of helmets with some sort of brushed gold leaf. This helmet is also horrible.

As for us, we need to wear our home uniforms with the full “UCLA stripes” on the shoulders. How about that for an equipment change?

EGO TROIORUM MALLEUS SUM

by Bruins102NCAA on Nov 23, 2011 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

+1

Home jerseys with full stripes. I had trouble falling asleep last night when I read this about the all white uniforms…I will be so disappointed if they wear that on Saturday.

by jucla on Nov 23, 2011 4:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Can somebody tell what's the point of this now?

I don’t get it. ?? In the last game. I always looked forward to the classic the Blue vs Cardinal too.
Remember Coke’s fiasco? Looks similar to this. Leave the coach, change the unis.

by 1970 on Nov 23, 2011 7:46 AM PST reply actions  

This is so crazy

Unbelievable that even Neuheisel doesn’t know anything about it. I wonder what else Guerrero and company have done without consulting him or even letting him know.

by SonOfWestwood93 on Nov 23, 2011 8:03 AM PST reply actions  

Very telling...

that the head coach was not consulted on such a fundamental issue, which says to me that either the AD is an isolationist or the coach is a lame duck. In the work place if my boss did this I would figure that somethings up and my days are numbered. Really a bad organizational move and shows zero respect for the coach. And the players.

by 77bruin on Nov 23, 2011 8:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Not the first time

Those guys rolled out the stupid and ridiculous “Monopoly” ad without ever consulting Neuheisel and then made Neuheisel own it in the press.

by Nestor on Nov 23, 2011 8:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Because those idiots

only measure their worth with relation to the Trogans. That’s why that “ad” was directed at them, and that’s why they’re busting out the new unis against them. Short-sighted nincompoops.

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Nov 23, 2011 9:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Communication.

Whats that? Sounds like a fancy word.

by Bruin'96 on Nov 23, 2011 9:52 AM PST up reply actions  

I like the alternate uni

Even if it is for the $C game. I understand the tradition and all. But the current tradition is UCLA getting stomped and embarrased by $C, so anything that breaks away from that is a positive.

by King J77 on Nov 23, 2011 8:03 AM PST reply actions  

Agreed

But after the last few years my choice colors for new unis would be black and blue. However, if we do go forward with the all-white, I’m hoping the players names are in white too (a la Oregon’s uniform combination #231) so at least the players can function anonymously in this upcoming implosion.

by charnaw on Nov 23, 2011 9:18 AM PST up reply actions  

All Black with Flat Black Helmets

is what I’d love to see. Have a big Bruins “B” on the helmet in true blue with gold outline which would just pop out on tv.

I’m happy that change is at least being allowed now. My only gripe with this is that they didn’t have the players input on the design.

by King J77 on Nov 23, 2011 9:32 AM PST up reply actions  

If we want to really break tradition, and go with a winning formula,

why not go all the way and go with cardinal and gold.

Also, will the new words to the alma mater be handed out before we all sing it. You know the part (or do you?). It goes “…her honor we’ll up hold, we’ll gladly give our hearts to thee, to the black and flat black,” Hey, that doesn’t rhyme.

Here’s a way to get a real break in tradition – let’s play all our home games at Galen Center.

I don’t swear. If I did, this post would really spark a “Hey, it’s a family blog” warning. What’s the matter with you guys? What’s wrong with blue and gold? Or are we going to have new colors every week. No wonder we can’t get the blue right.

by Fox 71 on Nov 23, 2011 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Come On Fox

It’s an alternate Uni for 1 game. Nobody has called for our school colors (which we can’t even agree on) to be changed (yet again).

I understand that UCLA has a certain level of tradition but it’s not like we’ve had the same basic jersey design since the beginning. Every school within every range of tradition has alternate or special edition jersey sets and I mean everyone (Alabama/Notre Dame down to your local HS)

by King J77 on Nov 23, 2011 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Input?

Tony Dye must realize that Fat Dan would never ask for input. He knows everything per DG just look at his handling things in his tenure. Fat Dan(too many donuts) cannot help himself. No football background no championships in his sport baseball and major experience from a school who only had major success under Billy Mulligan and a player named Magee. Before he was there. Dan must go and the sooner thy better.

by john4justice on Nov 23, 2011 8:07 AM PST reply actions  

Word is

Danny Donkey rules the department with a deaf ear, taking no input from anyone. Kind of Howland-style.

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Nov 23, 2011 9:26 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm praying that...

the alleged white uni’s are just a ruse to throw us off the scent and that the real uni’s will be traditional colors with some cool twist. Nah, the AD is not capable of that.

by 77bruin on Nov 23, 2011 8:58 AM PST reply actions  

The impact will be lost

After SC rips off the first 30 yd gain while breaking 3/4 tackles.

Then we just look silly.

by SPNB on Nov 23, 2011 8:58 AM PST reply actions  

but...

what about those precious hardhat stickers?

by Telemachus on Nov 23, 2011 9:16 AM PST reply actions  

rolling the dice

I am hoping…praying…that this is the last act of a fat, desperate man who’s now feeling the burden of 2 once proud, elite programs, being run into the ground. i’m sure he’s envisioning a fantasy of being the architect of a upset over SC via some new Uni’s. Whoever said that we may end up looking like Penn St. out there on Saturday struck a chord, so I am very concerned! Some of the players tweets seem to be in favor of the uni’s so not sure what to thin anymore.

by Uclabrians on Nov 23, 2011 9:22 AM PST reply actions  

Epic fail

To break the tradition of the rivalry is an epic fail. I look forward to the contrast of our true blue and gold, against their ketchup and mustard, No other rivalry has a tradition of being from the same city hence both wearing home jerseys. How about if some how we make it to the pac-10 championship. Then breaking them out! That might add some excitment, and get adidas mega exposure.

by wizardofoc on Nov 23, 2011 9:23 AM PST reply actions  

Wizard, you must be new here.

That makes too much sense for the unis to be implemented for a large-scale market. Plus, ADIDAS knows UCLA won’t be beating SUC so this is their last shot in 2011 to unveil these things.

by charnaw on Nov 23, 2011 9:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Baffling

The crosstown rivalry is important because of the past. The past has its artifacts and images which have power. Both teams in home unis is central to that. Breaking this tradition is nuts.

IF Bruins get into another game (either the championship or bowl game) that would be the time to dress like Penn State, not against SUC.

by harry bruin on Nov 23, 2011 9:30 AM PST reply actions  

Dan Guerror is an Idiot!

The unavailing of the new uni’s should have been done at the beginning of the year! With this news, it is starting to showing dumb dumb Guerror must have flunked out of UCLA and still puts UCLA on his resume as a graduate! He is only a graduate of being walked out the door! It is time to OCUPPY!!!!!!!

by mpoeman on Nov 23, 2011 9:40 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

We should've used these new uni's against Texas

maybe they would’ve gotten confused if we were in all white, a couple extra interceptions?

Seriously, why THIS game? I can hear all the Trojies after they spank us. The comments will be as annoying as their presence alone.

by TheStick on Nov 23, 2011 10:38 AM PST reply actions  

Home alternates could have worked, if Adidas/Morgan Center had thought of it.

But yep, this game is the one time where these unis make no sense. The primetime ESPN game @ Arizona or our game @ Stanford would have been far better to break these things out.

formerly bruinhoo

by Patroclus on Nov 23, 2011 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm not against white uni's

When i envision it with true blue script on the white helmet and numbers. Our road unis are vanilla. But we don’t wear road uni’s in this game! This guy has to be the worst marketer of all time, changing a tradtion that many fought to get back. Tone deaf again.
These uni’s better rock!

Beat SC!

by UCLA2020 on Nov 23, 2011 11:51 AM PST reply actions  

I’m guessing that these will look something like the chargers road throwback uniforms, like the ones they wore in the 1994 (75th anniversary) NFL season, if they decide to put in our true blue in there instead of the dark blue that we’ve got on the aways. Otherwise we’ll probably look like georgia tech’s away uniforms with white helmets.

Seems like alternate uniforms have been the biggest trend this season, we’re not the only ones. Even notre dame put out two alternate unis (Michigan game as well as Maryland game), schools like Michigan, Ohio state have had 1 and done alternate uniforms. the Stanford cardinal, Rutgers scarlet knights, and duke blue devils have worn black alternate uniforms this year. Oregon even had 2 alternates to their already huge uniform selection, for the LSU and Cal games.

by jtthirtyfour on Nov 23, 2011 12:28 PM PST reply actions  

Looks like no true blue

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150473846501405&set=a.219842911404.179284.164420296404&type=1&ref=nf – from the ucla facebook page.

my guess below, although in the photo the number font looks like the old school rounded clarendon font numbers.

by jtthirtyfour on Nov 23, 2011 3:34 PM PST up reply actions  

these jerseys would have been perfect for last years team

for the receivers we had with no hands.

this guy “abcdefgh” looks like he can play though, and probably would have caught the same amount of balls.

At least the drops haven’t been AS bad this year.

BTW – The Chargers have just filed suit for uniform infringement (yes i know this is just a guess what they look like)

by Uclabrians on Nov 23, 2011 3:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Stanford replaced their home uniform

I thought it was weak. Oregon has pulled it off a couple of times but some of these are hey me too! Most of these schools have something in common, weak brands and little tradition.
Wow were like Maryland!

by UCLA2020 on Nov 23, 2011 5:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I just hope we wear blue jerseys.

I think the pants and helmet should be white, but keep the jersey blue.

by ovillarr13 on Nov 23, 2011 1:55 PM PST reply actions  

New school colors - Blue and white. Kewl, dude.

We can probably get the uniforms second hand from North Carolina.

While we’re at it, let’s change the name of the school. Let’s do all we can to change everything that has ever happened in the past. How about Pee Wee Herman Hall instead of Royce Hall. I don’t know who has me more po-ed – Doughnut Dan for coming up with this horrendously stupid idea or the children who think change is cool just because it’s a change. I’m embarrassed, to be completely candid. Just$c* trolls won’t bother coming over here to mock us – we’re doing a good enough job mocking ourselves.

by Fox 71 on Nov 23, 2011 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm not the one changing

the uniforms. If it was up to me I say leave them the way they are, but apparently it’s going to happen anyways so why not think of ways it might look decent?

And I’m no troll. I’ve visited BN daily since 2006.

by ovillarr13 on Nov 23, 2011 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

OUR UNIFORMS ARE NOT CHANGING

We’re wearing a new alternate/special edition jersey for this game. THIS IS NOT PERMANENT! There is no reason to get dramatic about how the school building names will change and we will change the name of the university.

by King J77 on Nov 23, 2011 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Respectfully disagree.

An all-white, alternate uniform on arguably the biggest game of our disappointing year reeks of desperate publicity-hounding when the focus should be on improved performance and production on the field.

This is the collegiate athletics equivalent of a toddler trying to get out of eating all their vegetables by either re-arranging their geometric configuration on the plate or hiding them under an all-white serving of mashed potatoes.

I would love for the Bruins to win out this year. If anything, it would at least allow Neuheisel a certain modicum of dignity in what may be his final season as the head of our football program.

But sporting a UCLA uniform where the C stands for Clorox White is no way to improve a football team.

"It's not who you are underneath. It's what you DO that defines you."

by Meriones on Nov 23, 2011 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Dan should have called

I could make this work. OR I could wear the HOME uniform, duh? I just hope they don’t suck. Adidas designs have done nothing for me so far

by UCLA2020 on Nov 23, 2011 5:17 PM PST reply actions  

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

Welcome to Bruins Nation, an unofficial daily online scrap book covering the greatest collegiate athletic program in the nation. Established June 16, 2005. GO BRUINS.

Managers

Uclabear1_small Nestor

Arron_afflalo1_small Tydides

Brad_pitt_as_achilles_small Achilles

377011_2642084725867_1068030137_32302525_1166539782_n_small Ryan Rosenblatt

Telemachus_small Telemachus

Licenseplate_small gbruin

2761_small tasser10

Blue_bellerophon_small Bellerophon

Img_0052_2_small Patroclus

Small DCBruins

Of Counsels

094_small Ajax

Menelaus2_small Menelaus

Small Meriones

Small Odysseus

Associates

Eee_small freesia39

Uclabruins_small AHMB