UCLA Likely to Go Bowling No Matter What Happens in the Next 2 Games
by orlandobruin on Nov 26, 2011 8:07 AM PST
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Based on the attached link to the NCAA's Postseason handbook (PDF), I think UCLA goes to a bowl no matter what happens tomorrow and next Friday. Check out page 18, “Selection Scenarios,” number 2, which states:
“A conference team that is 6-6 and plays in a conference championship game and loses to finish with a record of 6-7 may apply for a waiver to allow that team to be considered for a postseason bowl. Conditions that will be considered in such a waiver include whether or not all other conference teams under consideration have 6-6 records and there are not a sufficient number of eligible teams to meet the conference’s bowl commitments.”
The Pac 12 has 7 bowl tie ins. Seven bowl eligible teams. WSU, OSU, Zona, Colorado, and U$C* cannot get bowl eligible. So I would think that they would let UCLA go before choosing a non-Pac 12 team instead of UCLA. It is not absolute though, because the rule says that this scenario is a “condition that will be considered.” It doesn't talk about what other conditions will be considered but the inclusion of this one leads me to believe that it would be the primary consideration. Plus, no Pac 12 bowl game would prefer, say, a 6-6 Ball State team, a 6-6 Eastern Michigan team, or another similarly situated 6-6 team to the Bruins, simply because economics would seem to dictate that the game would generate more revenue with UCLA in it.
That having been said, and notwithstanding the effect it will have on potential changes on the coaching staff and the Morgan Center, I will screaming at the TV for the Bruins to destroy Troy tomorrow night and for them to knock off whomever they play next Friday.
GO BRUINS!!!!! Beat teh Trogans!!
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That sounds right
That’s why I mentioned the waiver factor in my instant post. lol. Just high comedy all around.
I know.
It is comedic and tragic all at the same time. Shakespearean, almost.
(And thanks for cleaning up the post).
by orlandobruin on Nov 25, 2011 5:56 PM PST up reply actions
Waiver considerations
1. We have a chance if the guys making the decision never saw us play.
2. We have a chance of getting the waiver if the guys making the decision have never heard of Bruins Nation.
3. We have a chance because the decision makers probably do not want one of their future co-workers to get angry.
4. We have a chance if there is a bowl game that will take anyone, no matter what.
5. We have a chance if more teams decide that they will decline a bowl invitation for some reason.
LOL. True.
Maybe the NCAA will look at your list and gleefully choose not to follow the maxim of esjudem generis.
by orlandobruin on Nov 25, 2011 5:59 PM PST up reply actions
That's the spirit!
The Bruins need to focus on the Dirty Trogans.
by orlandobruin on Nov 25, 2011 6:22 PM PST up reply actions
Classic.
They can’t go to the postseason because of blantant cheating so they want to blast UCLA’s postseason aspirations.
So Trogan.
BTW, glad to see that the players appear to be focused on U$C* (not being champtions of teh worst division in CFB), at least from their statements and tweets . . .
by orlandobruin on Nov 26, 2011 4:14 AM PST up reply actions
"A 6-6 team like Tennessee"
talk about counting chickens. Tennessee choked against a Kentucky team with no quarterback and won’t go bowling this year. That’s one less nationally-known bowl-eligible team, which helps our postseason chances significantly.
What?? You don't think they wouldn't drool over
a crappy below-.500 team that doesn’t travel well?
Roses are red, violets are blue...f*** $C.
Seems to point towards Kraft Fight Hunger Bowl
Based on my logic (which could be flawed) it seems like we’ll be in the Kraft Fight Hunger Bowl in San Francisco (which is great for me, as I’ll be there for NYE). It seems like UCLA, if 6-7, would have to wait for every other Pac-12 team to be chosen for a bowl before they can be picked. So if there are 7 bowl eligible teams, we would be the 7th team chosen, regardless of our recod and actual standings. The Kraft Bowl is 6th in line, but if Oregon and Stanford both make it to BCS games (which seems likely), then we’d probably end up in SF. If Oregon and Stanford do not both make a BCS game, we’ll likely be in the ever-so-glamorous New Mexico Bowl.
Regardless of our performance all year, regardless of what this may or may not mean for Neuheisel’s future, two extra games on national TV, plus extra practice time, SHOULD pay off next season and in recruiting. Key word: “should.”
slow down, look up
Disagree, Point
More of the same kind of coaching from CTSS is not a good thing. I would like to have more time for a different guy to coach the team. In fact, Point, if you’ve got nothing to do over the next few weeks, would you like to take over?
Neuheisel would be relieved of duty before the bowl game.
Much like Toledo and Dorrell were.
by Kenneth Powers on Nov 25, 2011 9:30 PM PST up reply actions
Hopefully
The NCAA will make the Morgan Center wait as long for the response as students have to wait for a response to a petition at Murphy Hall.
But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.
OK sir, I will. I am glad you want to elevate it to that. I agree it will be a lot of fun and take some sting out of this season
Laughter is a great palliative.
I just want to crush SUC
So tired of aspiring to crapola bowls. We should choose just not to go on our own.
San Jose State
If it weren’t for that fantastic crushing of San Jose State, we might not even be in a position to know what page 18, section 2 says. If CRN is retained, we need to make sure that we schedule more bottom feeders, so that we can share DG’s pride in a .500 football program, because that is what we will get next year and as long as he stays.
Don't scoff at that scheduling strategy, island.
I’m here in Florida, and the Gators have a very remarkable way of scheduling games. First and foremost, they do not leave the State. The last time Florida playe a non-conference game outside Florida was in 1991. They lost at Syracuse and apparently vowed that would never happen again.
This year, their non-conference games are the following:
Sept 3 Florida 41, Florida Atlantic 3 (Florida Atlantic is now 0-10)
Sept 10 Florida 39, UAB 0 (UAB is now 3-8)
Nov 19 Florida 54, Furman 32 (Furman is now 6-5)
Florida has the traditional game against Florida State today.
So Florida’s record against their combined 9-23 opposition is a nifty 134-35. And Florida played EIGHT home games against four road games. Florida is 3-5 in the SEC, but by playing the creampuffs they always play, and by scheduling all those games at home, Florida will surely be going to a bowl. Doughnut Dan should consider having the Bruins play 8 home games, and schedule New Mexico and Idaho and Akron and powerhouses like that. If the Doughnut man had done that, we would still have a bad coach, but maybe our team would have a better feeling about its chances of winning with an 8-3 record instead of a 6-5 record. But no, Doughnut Dan schedules a game against Texas at a “neutral” site.
My wife and brother-in-law are Gators
I watch a lot of games with my father-in-law and he often mentions how shameful it is that Florida pulls that kind of scheduling. I’m proud of our Bruins for not backing away from tough road games, and I’ll be there in Charlottesville when they come to beat Virginia.
Dreaming of Westwood while in permanent exile in Virginia
Most of the Gators I know have no such shame.
Interestingly, most didnt even go to UF, but grew up around there.
These guys talk about how the Gators must schedule that many creampuffs to get through the “brutal” SEC conference schedule. You know, their division rivals, Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Tennessee. LOL.
by orlandobruin on Nov 26, 2011 10:58 AM PST up reply actions
I don't doubt that
The funny thing is, when everyone in your conference schedules between 1 and 3 absolute cream puffs because they play such a hard schedule, you get limited exposure to different conferences which makes it difficult to determine how good your conference truly is (I am not saying that the SEC is not good). What do we call a gene pool that goes back to the same well generation after generation? Inbreeding!
Dreaming of Westwood while in permanent exile in Virginia
Bingo.
Thats why, until the ARK loss yesterday, we had three SEC West teams as 1,2, and 3 in the BCS and there is a good chance of two SEC teams (LSU v. Alabama) in the fictitious title game this season.
The rest of FCB sould participate in a playoff and let the SEC play amongst themselves.
by orlandobruin on Nov 26, 2011 12:51 PM PST up reply actions
I like your idea
Maybe we could send Chianti Dan to the SEC as a new AD???
Dreaming of Westwood while in permanent exile in Virginia
Sorry for the misunderstanding
I wasn’t scoffing at the strategy. Rather, I was scoffing at DG now getting a chance to think he got it right thanks to SJSU. And suggesting that if he continues with RN, he better keep the SJSU’s of the world in his sights, so that he can continue meeting his (not our) standard of excellence.
I am fine with whatever scheduling we adopt, as long as we have a real coach and a real program which can attain goals worthy of our university, instead of backing into bowls with a shit record.
Alternate Unis
Any word on the rumor that we will indeed be using our True Blue unis tonight, and saving the alternate ones for the Championship game? I heard that floating around yesterday, but I haven’t seen anything substantial confirming it yet.
by Aces-UCLA on Nov 26, 2011 9:25 AM PST via mobile reply actions
It was a hope I expressed. But based on the way
Morgan Center never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity, they’ll miss the opportunity.
(I actually would like to see some throwback unies with POWDERKEG blue and real UCLA stripes.)
by BrendonBruin on Nov 26, 2011 9:33 AM PST up reply actions
Do yourselves a favor and listen to DC on the video.
He is a great kid and player. Serious and professional. I am very impressed with his attitude and intensity.
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