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UCLA Has to Get It Right Now or Forever Hold Their Peace

Rick Neuheisel is out. That much is clear. Where UCLA goes from here is as foggy as can be though and that's because ensuring the future success of the football program is not as simple as picking a coach. The UCLA football program stands at a crossroads, with an opening for head coach, a proven failure for an athletic director, deficient facilities and worst of all, university support for the football program that can be described as apathetic at best. None of these things are new problems for the Bruins, but with the changing dynamics of college football and the Pac-12, this is the last time they will face these problems in the same form as they are in today Simply put, if the Bruins don't get their football program on track this time, they will begin digging their own grave at two times the pace than they have in the last decade, while outside forces make it tougher than ever to dig their way out.

While Neuheisel had some success at Colorado and Washington, he wasn't deemed to be an incredible coach. He succeeded early on at both schools, ran into a rough spot then was gone before long, either to a new school or because he was fired for athletic department incompetence. Karl Dorrell wasn't a success anywhere, although being called a pretty good wide receivers coach might be considered a succes, but that's hardly enough to get a Pac-10 head coaching job, you would think.

Neither Neuheisel nor Dorrell were elite head coaches. They weren't even second tier head coaches. There was hope that both could succeed, but neither was the cream of the crop. They were the caliber of head coach that UCLA was in the market for though. Yes, they performed poorly and no Bruin expected such disappointment, but UCLA got what it paid for. In an era of skyrocketing coaching salaries, UCLA chose to continue their cheap spending ways. There's a reason why Neuheisel and Dorrell commanded what they commanded while the elite head coaches commanded two and three times as much. Unfortunately, UCLA had to spend nine years finding out exactly why that is first hand.

Not coincidentally, coaching salaries have skyrocketed as interest in college football has also skyrocketed and college football becomes big business. Once the SEC became the first 12-team conference and introduced conference title games, college football changed. The money changed. The Big XII followed and then the ACC did. Multimillion dollar renovations to stadiums became the norm, as did dedicated football buildings with every amenity possible included to properly pamper players. Eventually, these things became so common that it was no longer pampering and just the cost of playing top-level Division I football.

While all this was going on, UCLA was playing it cheap with their head coach and his staff. While teams were building dedicated football buildings, UCLA was building the Acosta Center and forcing football to share space with the rest of the sports. The football coaches' offices were in a completely separate building to comply with the school's philosophy, program needs be damned. Unwilling to explore the possibility of building an on-campus stadium, UCLA was playing far from campus at the Rose Bowl and their practice field wasn't even the full 120 yards.

Star-divide

Many argued that UCLA didn't need to do more than they were doing. After all, they were doing more than they did in the 1980's and 1990's and those teams were going to Rose Bowls. Ignoring that such an outlook is lazy and short-sighted, it is also ignorant to the changing dynamics of college football. The money in college football was different then, with no 12-team conferences or mega TV contracts. Facilities were afterthoughts and coaches were just public employees, not sought-after commodities. Times changed, but UCLA didn't.

Now we sit in 2011 with UCLA on the verge of falling even further behind. If the big money in the last 15 years completely changed college football, it's only the beginning of what we're going to see going forward. The Big 10, a conference that only the SEC can match in terms of fan support is now at 12 teams and ready to cash in. The SEC has expanded further and the ACC is trying to become relevant. The competition is only increasing and in hopes of getting a leg up on their competition in this college football world, schools are going to continue and then increase what has become their go-to move. Toss more and more money at the one thing that is unregulated by the rules of the game and NCAA: coaches and facilities.

Most importantly to UCLA, the Pac-12 is finally starting to get into the modern world of college football. Oregon has become a national powerhouse in large part because of the hundreds of millions they've poured into their football program, but they're not the only spenders anymore. Cal is spending more than $400 million on their stadium and practice facility, while Oregon St. and Washington St. have undergone stadium renovations. Stanford recently built a new stadium and there is talk of stadium improvements at both Utah and Arizona St.

Pac-12 coaches are also starting to see this money and it's leading to a major boost to the conference's coaching ranks. Chip Kelly, Jeff Tedford, Kyle Whittingham and Lane Kiffin are already known as good coaches (although varying degrees of good), while the same is expected of David Shaw. That leaves a lot of not so good coaches too, but those not so good coaches are quickly on the way out. Arizona has picked up Rich Rodriguez and there is talk that Mike Leach will find his way into the conference. That means more than half the conference could have coaches that could lead their teams to the Rose Bowl and no one would be surprised, while other promising, but unproven coaches in the conference can make it more than two-third of the conference with good coaches.

Never before has the competition been so tough for UCLA. Never before has being UCLA and being in a fertile recruiting area meant so little to UCLA. Look at the list of coaches in the conference. Is there any doubt that they are more than capable of swooping into Souther California and poaching recruits? If the Bruins really have a desire to be excellent in football, they will have to be excellent in every phase of the program, starting with the administration's support to a committed, intelligent athletic department and then down to the coaches and team itself. There's no such thing as "getting by" anymore. From here on out it is really simple. You either excel or you fail.

The problem is that, as we explained, UCLA is already behind. Even the departing Neuheisel admitted as much, telling Dan Guerrero that if they want a successful football program that they'll have to improve the practice field and build a football building. That doesn't even get into the stadium issue. In short, Neuheisel told Guerrero that UCLA needs to care and commit to their football program.

That care and commitment starts with the selection of the school's next head football coach. The rumor is that for the first time ever, UCLA will top dollar on a head coach. That is a start. The rumor is also that UCLA will spend more money on assistant coaches. A nice step two. Guerrero said that they plan on improving the football practice facilities, which is a nice thought, and when all three of these things are done, we might begin to believe that UCLA cares about football. Until then, I haven't seen a contract that shows UCLA is spending on a head coach or his assistant and I haven't need anything that resembles a halfway decent plan of a football facility, let alone an actual facility.

If that looks like a daunting mountain to climb right now, imagine it in five years? Imagine falling further behind and going up against competition that is better prepared than ever before? That's what UCLA is facing if they can't get the football program righted this time around. Instead of the do-overs they got after Dorrell and now after Neuheisel, the Bruins will not walk into the same world and try to get it right for a fourth time, but walking into a completely new galaxy with no idea how to figure out up from down.

Right now, UCLA is all talk. There is no actual action that shows the Bruins have learned and are going to step into the modern world and that is what scares Bruin fans most. They have no assurances. They have no trust in the decision makers. They have no reason to believe that UCLA has a clue what they are doing because for the last decade and arguably longer, they haven't had a clue.

Everything is still there for UCLA to become a major player in college football. They're still in a major market and in a fertile recruiting ground. They still have the UCLA brand, even if the last decade has diminished it, and they still have one of the most beautiful campuses in the country. They have a huge alumni base and thanks to the Pac-12's new TV deal, they will have all of the money and exposure they could want.

The resources are there, but unused and mismanaged resources have no value. The question is whether the school can finally make good on their resources because each time they waste their abundance of resources they become far less valuable. The last decade has left the Bruins' resources and program essentially on the verge of college football bankruptcy. UCLA has one last lifeline to keep them from liquidating and selling off its assets before closing up shop for good. Get it right now, UCLA, or you might as well hand in those helmets and shoulder pads for good.

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Both our football and basketball teams are practicing on courts/fields

that are not the same lengths or dimensions as the floor they play games on.
Seriously? why is that still the case for football?? (Basketball was only a change this year, but it’s still disturbing)

Why exactly do we have to “make do” with subpar facilities? Are there even plans to fix this in the future?

Why would Petersen, Leach, or any coach want to come to UCLA which doesn’t even care about giving its student-athletes a decent practice field?

by BruinEngy on Nov 29, 2011 3:14 PM PST reply actions  

Fix football first

and I guarantee money will be there for the other sports.

by Blue Me on Nov 29, 2011 4:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Can I hold you to that “guarantee”?

by fanoverboard on Nov 29, 2011 4:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Ask successful football programs

how they are doing financially.

by Blue Me on Nov 29, 2011 4:44 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Okay, I asked ’em, and they said to say hello and that you were absolutely right.

by fanoverboard on Nov 29, 2011 4:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Pay Athletes under the table,

like it is done at USC. Why do you think the best players go there!

by velo route on Nov 29, 2011 5:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Never been there, but on paper it seems to have the edge over JRS, because it’s on campus and seats about 1,500 more fans.

by fanoverboard on Nov 29, 2011 5:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Cal doesn't even have lights. It's a shithole.

Hence why their Super Regional hosting was at Santa Clara’s stadium.

by Kenneth Powers on Nov 29, 2011 7:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Cal doesn't even pretend to care about baseball

Hell, they tried to kill the program a year ago. It’s easily the worst facility in the conference. We’re probably tied with Washington St. for next worst.

Two roads diverged in a wood and I – I tweeted my followers to ask which I should take

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 29, 2011 7:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, tied for next worst is not where the Bruin baseball team and its fans deserve to be.

by fanoverboard on Nov 29, 2011 8:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Our facilities, for pretty much everything with the exception of basketball (and now football this coming season) are the worst in the conference. Both the baseball and softball teams have not been able to host super regionals because of their poor facilities (people can’t even find the softball field wedged up in the canyon above Memorial Stadium).

The last time the baseball diamond was renovated was the ’80s, and it was done by alumni donations. The resurgence of the program last year, along with alumni complaints and the new revenue bring hopes that there will be lighting as well as an upgrade to the pressbox to allow for showing on the Pac-12 Network in the spring.

"Our hearts shall sing and our voices ring for the dear old Blue and Gold!"

by Joe Bandsmen on Nov 30, 2011 3:38 PM PST up reply actions  

+1

was listening to Max and Marcellus in the afternoon and Marcellus commented (on national radio) how when he went to UCLA’s weight room, it was sad. I’ve never been there so I have no idea where it is and what it looks like, but he said it was hard to find and poorly lit. He asked how can these athletes be motivated and pumped to workout when it’s so dark and dingy in there. I don’t hate him for saying that on national radio. He as a point. I mean, when we try to recruit top tier players, what’s our pitch? “You need to keep up your high academic standards and workout in this sorry ass facility. If you don’t like it, go across town, do as you wish without consequences and workout in a state of the art facility.” Well, not sure if SUC has state of the art facility, but from what I hear, it’s not too shabby.

I feel for what NEU had to say this morning on the radio. UCLA has made little financial commitment to sports. I’m not sure how the finances work, but I’m sure if we spend the money and get our name out there with the powerhouses (like SUC did), merchandise will sell faster, donations will come in at larger amounts, season tickets will sell in larger quantities, endorsements/commercial interests will much higher. I listen to the SUC games on the radio, rooting for the other team of course, and noticed how they tend to have higher end companies during their commercial break. Not sure where that money goes and if the contract with BSPN is worth more if they bring in big name companies to place their commercials during the games, but we get…red hot tamales candy during our commercial break? really?

I don’t know if it is a marketing failure on our part in trying to pitch our name to big companies. I know part of it has to do with Chianti Dan for not investing in our athletics to put winning programs out there. When California is struggling financially, UCLA needs to think beyond raising student fees (well, the UC Regents actually). How can UCLA have a world class business school yet have no creative way of raising money, donations, endorsement deals? Or is this an issue with what kind of money UCLA can and can’t use?

NEU was right, in this era of big money in sports, UCLA is bringing “a knife to a gun fight.”

Sorry for the rambling, just had to get it off my chest.

by bruin98 on Nov 29, 2011 5:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I seem to recall in the 90's (when I was a student)

Athletes lamenting the lack of a “training table” for dining options.

The cavalier attitude towards Bruin athletics makes everything that much more difficult.

by DrJay32 on Nov 29, 2011 3:25 PM PST reply actions  

Lack of "training table" issues were much discussed among athlete's back in my day, too. (80's)

I suspect that Joshua Smith struggles more than the average Bear (pun intended), because he probably needs his own nutritionist, and full access to the kinds of foods his body type/ cell type requires for maximum fitness. All-you-can-eat dorm dining halls is probably not what this guy needs. If he needs to eat, nutritiously, say, 6 or 7 times a day… does that exist for him (these guys)? Are other schools more sophisticated with this? I dunno.

U-C-L-A Fight, Fight, Fight! Go Bruins!
NBA: Where Greed Happens. RIP 10/10/11.

by Bruins78 on Nov 29, 2011 3:35 PM PST up reply actions  

From what I remember

When I was an RA (2007-2010 school years), there was a 5-meal per day plan that athletes had access to. That gave them access to dining options at every dining period. Most students had 2-meals a day plan, maybe 3, for comparison.

Of course, this doesn’t change your points about nutritionist, access to specific/different food, or anything of that nature. And it was still the all-you-can-eat dining halls.

Just wanted to throw that out for some recent context. I don’t believe this has changed, but I am a couple years removed now.

by JeremyD on Nov 29, 2011 5:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Training table

When I was in school in the 60’s, i hashed at the football training table as part of my grant-in-aid work detail for baseball. When did they cut it out. The training table was held every night and the football team was required to be there.

Mensgym

by Mensgym on Nov 29, 2011 8:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Issue here, not with the coverage on BruinsNation but media coverage in general.

Mike Leach has yet to be mentioned by anyone in the media as a candidate or even as a good fit.

Feel like there is absolutely zero heat on Leach for the UCLA gig. Despite him being my very slight personal favorite over Petersen.

Shouldn’t his name pop up somewhere at some point? It is early in the process, but my point remains.

Just a talking point.

"I have one word for you...Be careful."
-Jose Guillen

by IE Angel on Nov 29, 2011 3:32 PM PST reply actions  

I’m afraid that Leach, while being a great out of the box type of hire, is exactly the person Guerrero fears staking his professional future on. If we get Petersen, and he doesn’t work out like we hope, Guerrero could possibly still salvage his job because he was the safe, popular pick. If the same thing happens to Leach, Guerrero is finished in major university administration.

by ishXdavid on Nov 29, 2011 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

The LA Daily News had an article.

So sure ESPN LA and the LA Times haven’t mentioned it, so there you go.

I think PetersEn is the desired coach of choice, and that seems like what Guerrero is releasing to the media.

Michael C

www.onviolence.com

by Michael_C on Nov 29, 2011 4:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks for the link.

But that is really just a published version of some of the stuff written on here.

I was more referring to an actual report that we have interest in Leach.

"I have one word for you...Be careful."
-Jose Guillen

by IE Angel on Nov 29, 2011 5:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I remember this quote from a July 2011 Leach article:

“Where would he coach if he could, carte blanche, pick a school? He wants a place with good tradition and the chance to compete for titles, but a place with some challenges and history of recent struggle, some place like UCLA or North Carolina.”

source: http://www.sbnation.com/2011/7/20/2282082/mike-leach-texas-tech-interview

by ConfofChamps on Nov 29, 2011 5:04 PM PST up reply actions  

sounds like a fit to me

we have plenty of challenges & tradition + pac12.

by Bruin on Nov 29, 2011 5:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks for that.

I think it will become an idea as the process evolves. Or at least I hope that.

"I have one word for you...Be careful."
-Jose Guillen

by IE Angel on Nov 29, 2011 5:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I like Leach and Peterson

but I hope we don’t neglect Leach…at least interview him. We might risk putting him off if his name continues to be out of conversation…

by bruin98 on Nov 29, 2011 5:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Great piece Ryan

One of the best articulations I’ve ever read on the evolution (devolution) and status of the UCLA football program. Plashke, Foster, even Gold, should wish they wrote this. Well done sir.

by mwright84 on Nov 29, 2011 3:37 PM PST reply actions  

+1

I, too, think it was a very well written piece. Keep up the good work, Ryan!

by GoSolar on Nov 29, 2011 6:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Great post

Awesome, Ryan. Thanks for highlighting the rapidly evolving national landscape of college football. I distinctly recall being in awe of Bryant-Denny Stadium while watching College GameDay during the lead up to LSU-Bama. The stadium looked like it could host a Super Bowl if Tuscaloosa were a major metropolitan area, and the stadium had been ravaged by a tornado earlier this year. It is time for UCLA to stop looking backwards and resting on the laurels of the yesteryear. There is no more forward-looking, innovative university in the nation than UCLA, and it’s time to start acting like the 21st century institution our 20th century success was built upon.

by ishXdavid on Nov 29, 2011 3:38 PM PST reply actions  

Let's interview well.

(I re-posted this here. More appropriate)
Before Ben Howland came to UCLA, I was automatically giddy about any coach with a great win-loss record coming to UCLA. Since then, I’ve learned that success "there" may not be as automatic as success "here". With Chris Petersen, his record is sterling. However, overnight, he becomes a blue-blood, or an upper-crust at a huge-name, big time, world renown, most-want-to-be-attended school. We are not Idaho’s best. We are among the best on the planet.

UCLA does not recruit the kid who was over-looked, and who now has an edge "I’m-as-good-as-them". We recruit "them". I’m not saying I’m against anyone. I am saying, (in the Spirit of 66 the other day), let’s "sit down and interview" everyone. Let’s ask the "hard questions". When it came to Karl, and Rick… I personally didn’t ask jack. Why? They were "one of us". (Yeah, and how’d that work out?) All I’m saying is, let’s make these men earn their right to this great opportunity we have. Let’s interview well, and get the best possible fit. Dan said money is no object. So, let’s make sure we get the best quality available – who ever it might be.

U-C-L-A Fight, Fight, Fight! Go Bruins!
NBA: Where Greed Happens. RIP 10/10/11.

by Bruins78 on Nov 29, 2011 3:41 PM PST reply actions  

Dorell was a great interview

So I don’t know how much stock I put in people interviewing really well. I don’t see what answering questions has to do with coaching football. Like I said, Dorrell absolutely killed his interview, what skills exactly correlate there?

Michael C

www.onviolence.com

by Michael_C on Nov 29, 2011 4:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I think he meant

UCLA needs to do a good job interviewing, not that the candidates need to interview well (though I do think they should – but that’s far from the only factor). He was referencing 66’s post from the other day about taking our time to interview everybody, and be thorough, rather than zeroing in on one person, no matter how good.

by JeremyD on Nov 29, 2011 7:42 PM PST up reply actions  

What happens if...

…the top tier candidates still do not want to come to UCLA? That is a possibility.

by seernst on Nov 29, 2011 3:51 PM PST reply actions  

Not to be defeatist but it certainly can happen.

by seernst on Nov 29, 2011 3:53 PM PST up reply actions  

The rest of the Pac-12 is doubling down on football

Time for UCLA to join the club. Keep the pressure up.

Washington and Cal are remodeling their stadiums. Wazzu, Oregon, USC and Arizona all have recently or are in the process of building new football administration buildings. Utah, ASU and Oregon are getting ready to improve their stadiums.

That leaves UCLA hanging out with Stanford and Colorado in the not spending money club.

by KitIsh on Nov 29, 2011 3:55 PM PST reply actions  

The Rose Bowl

is getting a $100 million + remodel as we write this. Our stadium situation is fine. Our facilities/practice field situation is a different story. Spaulding needs a expansion/renovation and we need to pour plenty more resources into training/coaching/player facilities. Pay and bring in a proven, high-profile coach and quality assistants who will change the culture of the program and put a quality product on the field that people will actually want to watch, and this program easily becomes one of the two most attractive programs in the Pac 12, and perhaps one of the best in the country.

This isn’t rocket science, or even brain surgery.

by Blue Me on Nov 29, 2011 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Big Donor

We need a bid donor, like Oregon has in Nike and SC has with Galen et al. I wonder if Samuli sp?? down in the OC would donate the funds necessary to build the high tech facilities?? or if any one has contacted him.

Bruin 1986

by Crummies on Nov 29, 2011 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

This guy...

Henry Samueli, Co-founder of Broadcom

by seernst on Nov 29, 2011 4:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Isn't he in prison?

"I have something 95 percent of all those All-Stars only wish they had: a World Series ring. If I had to choose between that and being an All-Star, it would be no contest. I’d grab the gold ring and never look back." -Tim Salmon

by BruinHalo on Nov 29, 2011 4:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh nevermind,

it was just probation.

"I have something 95 percent of all those All-Stars only wish they had: a World Series ring. If I had to choose between that and being an All-Star, it would be no contest. I’d grab the gold ring and never look back." -Tim Salmon

by BruinHalo on Nov 29, 2011 4:51 PM PST up reply actions  

From Samuli's Wiki page....

On September 8, 2008, U.S. District Court Judge Cormac Carney (a fellow UCLA alumnus) rejected a plea deal that called for Samueli to receive probation, writing: “The court cannot accept a plea agreement that gives the impression that justice is for sale”.

by Chicago Bruin on Nov 29, 2011 5:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m not aware of any imminent plans to improve Autzen…not for six or seven years anyway.

If ya can't get your Dick Enright, get your Dick Harter!

by Old Ducker on Nov 29, 2011 6:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm continually amazed at how uninformed people are about UCLA's talent level.

People in the media talk like UCLA is a black hole, there are 3 top 10-15 recruiting classes on this roster.
The talent level is there, it has been hideously mismanaged and undeveloped.

I feel like I need to send this information out to LA writers and reporters because somehow everyone has missed it except, somehow, Petros

"I have one word for you...Be careful."
-Jose Guillen

by IE Angel on Nov 29, 2011 5:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Also, does Shelburne come off a little bit b**chy to anyone else?

Whenever I happen upon her articles, I get the same tone from her writing. Just an observation.

"I have one word for you...Be careful."
-Jose Guillen

by IE Angel on Nov 29, 2011 5:38 PM PST up reply actions  

She said that recruiting was picking up at the end of KD's term

And fell off after CRN took over. Is she even paying attention at all?

by Tydides on Nov 29, 2011 6:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Seems she's...

…angling for a gig on faux news perhaps?

by GemCityBruin on Nov 29, 2011 7:58 PM PST up reply actions  

To be fair to her

Recruiting was picking up at the end of KD’s term. The Walker-Scott combo locked down the Rahim Moore-EJ Woods class and Neu held onto them.

by bruinmike on Nov 30, 2011 8:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Meh

Scott had issues. He was a good recruiter but way too much baggage.

by Nestor on Nov 30, 2011 8:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Great post, Ryan...

This is what I wrote about in an earlier comment.

Lawrence Ross

by alpha1906 on Nov 29, 2011 5:42 PM PST reply actions  

Did not see this post when I posted below...

I think Del Rio is a good coach and could recruit well. However, he may be a little burnt out and it may not look so great if we bring in an $C guy to turn it around. I just don’t think Peterson will leave. He has been successful at BSU, gets paid a lot of money, and lives like a king with that salary in Idaho. 2 mil in Idaho goes a lot further than 3 mil in Los Angeles.

by pUSCies on Nov 29, 2011 6:32 PM PST up reply actions  

No

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Nov 30, 2011 7:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Has anyone considered...

Tressel or Del Rio? I feel like Tressel may not be a popular pick but he is a great coach and could reshape his image at UCLA. I also feel that Del Rio would be great at the collegiate level.

by pUSCies on Nov 29, 2011 5:55 PM PST reply actions  

Tressel is a slime with a long history of cheating going back to Youngstown State.

Jim Tressel not only knew about the Terrelle Pryor violations, but he actively engaged in a cover-up that involved FBI agents, a slew of texts to Pryor, and not a single word to Ohio State.

http://www.sbnation.com/hamsandwich/2011/4/25/2131987/jim-tressel-ohio-state-investigation

by Chicago Bruin on Nov 29, 2011 6:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Chicago Bruin is right on target...

There’s a reason Tressel wore the ‘Mr Clean’ image – in fact reveled in it until the facts were finally revealed. He hoped no one would look beyond it. Tressel doesn’t belong in the Pacific Conference.

by ConfofChamps on Nov 29, 2011 9:48 PM PST up reply actions  

I disagree...

he won a NC and took his team to NC game two more times. I really dont think the question is about his coaching skills, recruting, ability to beat $C – I think these are all given with time. The issue is whether he is too controversial. Would he receive a suspension from the NCAA if he returned? Would the public backlash be too great? He is an elite coach and has won at the highest collegiate level. He would have remained OSU’s coach for several years if the scandal did not break. I think the only problem is that it is too soon for him to return and he may not want this job. He also has questionable ethics.

by pUSCies on Nov 29, 2011 6:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I question his ability to win without cheating.

He would not had all those great players at THE OSU had he not cheated llike Pete Carroll.

by Chicago Bruin on Nov 29, 2011 6:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I see your point

At least some of the recruits must have known they could supplement their collegiate allowance with the benefits they recieved, tatoos, etc.

by pUSCies on Nov 29, 2011 6:29 PM PST up reply actions  

It's not about being controversial

A controversy means there are differing viewpoints on whether what someone did was right or wrong. There is no controversy about Tressel. What he did was clearly and blatantly wrong. Questionable ethics = unemployable as a leader of young men.

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Nov 30, 2011 8:01 AM PST up reply actions  

UW's Stadium undergoing renovations right now.

They’ll play their home games at Quest Field (Seahawks/Sounders) next season.

by GoSolar on Nov 29, 2011 6:09 PM PST reply actions  

That's right

How’d I forget about that? Considering that the entire lower bowl is coming out and only one upper deck will remain, it’s basically a whole new stadium and it’s going to be gorgeous.

Two roads diverged in a wood and I – I tweeted my followers to ask which I should take

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 29, 2011 6:11 PM PST up reply actions  

They could get it right by..

firing donut dan. Only then will we have a chance at a top tier coach.

by Big Bully on Nov 29, 2011 6:36 PM PST reply actions  

I really don't understand all the clamoring for Petersen

There is now way the $100M Rose Bowl renovation includes blue grass.

by charnaw on Nov 29, 2011 7:02 PM PST reply actions  

yea but..

Big bad Dan might approve an all white field to match our all white uniforms.. i hate that guy.

by Big Bully on Nov 29, 2011 7:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Dan strikes me as more of a...

“I look through the Wall Street Journal to appear intellectual, but really I just stare at the illustrations and laugh to look like I understand what they are commenting on.” type of guy.

"I have one word for you...Be careful."
-Jose Guillen

by IE Angel on Nov 29, 2011 9:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Where will an on campus facility (or stadium for that matter) even be built? There is no damn room anywhere! So many god damn golf courses, maybe the school could just buy one. There might be room at the Intra Mural field next to the Drake, but I doubt it. Need to hire an DEFENSIVE coach. No one really plays good sound defense in the Pac-12, the teams that have some semblance of a defense just have freak athletes that can recover from mistakes and lack of discipline. You bring a strong defensive minded head coach in there and some good offensive coordinator and you’ll have a quick turnaround (4-5 years). Defense will keep you in every game.

by snoopblue on Nov 29, 2011 9:17 PM PST reply actions  

That Defensive Brain was

Mike Stoops at Arizona… at least that’s what everyone in Tucson thought when he was brought in. The Pac 10 at the time was known for its offensive powerhouses and Stoops was going to counter it with his brilliant defensive schemes.

We now know how far awry that plan went.

by ConfofChamps on Nov 29, 2011 9:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Aww cmon, the stoops family is one of choke artists!! I am a Michigan alum and look at our defense from last year to this year…in the 110s last year and in the top 20 this year. It was all Greg Mattison. An NFL defensive coordinator or assistant can do that.

by snoopblue on Nov 29, 2011 9:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Before mouthing off with negativity

please read the relevant posts. We even have a “damn” video and schematics of where the facility would be built. Just search through the posts.

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Nov 30, 2011 8:05 AM PST up reply actions  

How realistic is an on-campus football stadium?

When I was a student I knew how fortunate it was to play at a stadium as prestigious as the Rose Bowl. But at the same time I lamented the distance between the UCLA campus and the stadium itself.

I know the UCLA campus is small compared to a lot of other make universities. But how feasible is it to have a football stadium that can seat 50K-60K on campus? Apologies if this is something that has already been discussed on here, but after moving back to SoCal this last year and attending games in a half empty stadium I’ve really wondered the possibility of this.

by DodgerBruin on Nov 29, 2011 9:42 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

I just put on my I think I am an AD and architect hat on...

It could happen, would probably have a 50-60k stadium which is good enough. Would have to displace soccer and probably have a track around the field. A UCLA blue track would be cool and contrast well with a green field (probably turf) You keep the displaced programs like soccer and track happy by building structures around the stadium and beneath the seating areas that can house some new facilities for those sports. Probably no room for a indoor facility but a) it’s los angeles and b) at least now there would be an on campus football field that doesn’t hate the number 40

It all comes down to money.

by snoopblue on Nov 29, 2011 10:18 PM PST reply actions  

We've got a long post on it

Right here

Two roads diverged in a wood and I – I tweeted my followers to ask which I should take

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 29, 2011 11:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I had a crazy thought...

…it just seemed curious to me that now all of a sudden dg is willing to kick out “top ten money” for a coach, after years of going on the cheap. You think he just had an epiphany or finally succumbed to fan pressure? I was thinking maybe there was even pressure from Larry Scott and our new TV sponsors to make sure we have a quality product on the fields with all the new money they forked out to our conference? No?

by Bruin_jim on Nov 29, 2011 11:17 PM PST reply actions  

In no way do I excuse the Morgan Center on any level

because at the end if the day, there are ways to generate revenue and maximize what you have – which they clearly did not. But in some small way – I put some blame on Hansen (maybe its misguided due to my dislike of the guy). Hansen was a terrible Commissioner that did absolutely nothing IMO to maximize the potential revenue and exposure of the conference.

His ineptitude had the Pac “bringing a knife to a gun fight” vs the $$ that the SEC and Big Ten were leveraging for themselves. The only AQ onference making less was the BE prior to Scott taking the reigns. The “all of a sudden” has a lot to do w/ the new money coming into the conference starting next season.

I should be working right now...

by gorams77 on Nov 30, 2011 8:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Neu on the Herd this morning

“You don’t bring a knife to a gunfight.”

Powder to the People

by bruinski on Nov 29, 2011 11:42 PM PST reply actions  

I think

over the years as it all will pan out, Rick will turn out the be recognized as the scapegoat for the entity that is dan guerror athletics

by Ganplosive on Nov 29, 2011 11:50 PM PST reply actions  

facilities

Espn had a halftime segment on Cals 100,000 sq ft training facility and memorial stadium renovation. Talked about how it is a huge selling point for recruits and was the doing of Tedford. Kudos to Tedford for proving the naysayers wrong. It probably saved his job.

by Strathmore&Gayley on Nov 30, 2011 3:27 AM PST via iPhone app reply actions  

It wasn't really Tedford

it was more the AD and Chancellor at the school. Tedford just told them they needed this to be relevant in football. It’s not like he was the rainmaker.

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Nov 30, 2011 8:07 AM PST up reply actions  

to clarify that segment

the new building is 100k sq ft, the weight room isn’t. ESPN’s inept coverage of the ASU game was giving me fits last week. So before you go drooling over our stuff (and you should) it isn’t as perfect as they say.

"Our hearts shall sing and our voices ring for the dear old Blue and Gold!"

by Joe Bandsmen on Nov 30, 2011 3:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Great Post Ryan

I think you pretty much hit it right on the head.

Los Angeles Rams and the UCLA Bruins!!!!!

by Minnesota Bruinfan on Nov 30, 2011 4:32 AM PST reply actions  

General digust

Another disaster of a season, and to make it worse, some genius decided to dispense with the best looking road uniforms in football! Shoulder stripes have been a UCLA signature since before I played, and that was in Red’s last year. The abreviated stripes this year made us look like stewards on a cruise ship, and now we travel looking like ice cream salesmen. Donut Dan knows nothing of our tradition and even less about football. If we can’t field a competetive team, let’s at least look like one.

by rhino6alfa on Nov 30, 2011 8:22 AM PST reply actions  

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