#NoMoraDan: UCLA Football Deserves Better Than THIS
by Meriones on Dec 10, 2011 10:02 AM PST
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PrintTHIS is the best Dan could do? Stanford pulled an outstanding coach out of a smaller conference. Washington State pulled a coach who was coaching a winning FBS football program a year ago.
And THIS is the best Dan could do? All around the country, athletic directors are finding up-and-coming coaches who are aware of the changing environments in recruiting, in on-the-field offensive and defensive innovation, in managing the multiple and oft-times conflicting concerns of modern collegiate athletics?
And THIS is the best Dan could do? Fine, Dan goes after many observers' #1 choice for a candidate, and gets turned down. OK, it happens. But then? Going after a coach who just signed a four-year extension two weeks before? Then going after another coach whose only significant achievements have only come with a once-in-a-generation quarterback? Dan goes from a solid #1 choice to not one but TWO wastes of effort, and then to someone with not even 10% of the college coaching experience of our last hire?
And THIS is the best Dan could do?
With all the talk of new resources being made available for a hire, with millions of dollars now available to every Pac-12 team thanks to the efforts of our new, proactive Commissioner, with talk of FINALLY improving training facilities for our team to meet standards being set by other teams over a decade ago, and finally acknowledging the need to upgrade support staff, we hire someone who hasn't walked a sideline in over two years?
And THIS is the best Dan could do? In a world with roughly THIRTY Bowl Games, and the opportunity to see multiple head coaches perform in pressure situations and see who knows how to actually RUN a program, develop talent, manage games, and deal with media... we SETTLE for someone that absolutely NO ONE else has even considered for a LOWER DIVISION job, let alone for the head coach job at one of the most renowned universities in the country?
And THIS is the best Dan could do? I have two kids in elementary school, each with their own talents and gifts. I would love for them to excel at everything they even stop to think about. But, at the end of the day, I remind myself and them that all I want from them is their honest, best, effort. If they try their hardest, do what their teacher tells them, and ask for help when they need it -- then that's fine. I just don't want them to EVER give up, and I want them to keep learning, and keep putting in their HONEST BEST to build on what they had done before.
But, HONESTLY, is THIS the best Dan could do?
If it isn't, then I want him OUT, for dishonoring what so many have believed in and worked hard to build and nourish and support.
If it is, then there is no dishonor to him, but I still want someone better IN, as in "IN PLACE OF HIM."
UCLA Football deserves better than THIS.
M
UPDATE (BN Eds): Also, echoing gbruin:
If Dan is myopic and ignorant enough to think that slipping this in on the weekend is going to lessen the blow on Monday, he is absolutely wrong. And if the people answering the phones at the Chancellor's office think it was bad before, wait until they get a load of us now. 1-310-825-2151. Start calling now Bruins, just for practice. Someone will be answering Monday morning.
There is only one message: Fire Dan Guerrero Now!
If you are tweeting, use the hashtag #NoMoraDan.
UPDATE II: Announcement from the website. Early reviews are terrible:
UCLA just made the 2nd-worst hire of the offseason. And I can't say I'm surprised.
More:
Other than 1 year as a GA, Mora has never coached in college. Never dealt with recruiting, academics, booster functions, etc. Best of luck.
Yikes. Remember, Karl Dorrell's career record is 35-27 and he has one of the worst records of a UCLA head coach ever. Mora's career record is 31-33.
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Highest-paid AD in the conference.
Not counting the bonuses the other ADs are paying him to nobble U.C.L.A.
by Seth Chandler on Dec 10, 2011 10:48 AM PST up reply actions
We give Dubious Dan way too much credit
He’s nothing more than Smithers is to Monty Burns. He’s Block’s milquetoast lackey. He’s Block’s pawn and tool. Block is not right for UCLA and he must go!
Agree
if block is too much of a spineless jellyfish to step up to all the humiliation around his program then we should be calling for his head
I thought for sure
When WSU got Leach that we were primed for a super hire at head football coach. This isn’t it and is insulting and irritating compared. It really is an f-u, fans. We’re going to wait now for Mora because he’s on the NFL Network, and he hasn’t even coached in years, nor in college. Is this a joke? Come on. We’re going to hire Briles or Mullen.
If this were April 1 we'd all have a good laugh . .. but it aint and I'm trying my best not to take my anger out on those around me.
Im ashamed to be a UCLA grad. My friends are already giving me a hard time because they don’t get how excruciatingly painful this is for those of use that are diehards. Its just sad.
by charnaw on Dec 10, 2011 10:19 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
OMG
I think I would have preferred Sark as the football coach!!
or even let Neuheisel finish out the rest of his contract
Guerrero is completely brain dead.
by JWongUCLA on Dec 10, 2011 10:31 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
WSU
got the original rebel for head coach; an innovator; a credible football coach. We got an ex coach’s kid who did alright in the NFL years ago. W T F!
WSU
Won the coaching sweepstakes this time around.
As consolation prize we got the kewpee doll
by GemCityBruin on Dec 10, 2011 10:25 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Mexi is bringing the torches.
I’ll bring the severed heads.
"Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden
by OswegoBruin on Dec 10, 2011 10:52 AM PST up reply actions
I'm bringing the bricks.
Winning is not a sometime thing; it's an all the time thing. You don't win once in a while; you don't do things right once in a while; you do them right all the time. Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing. ~ Vince Lombardi
Fewer half measures. More heads.
"Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden
by OswegoBruin on Dec 10, 2011 11:03 AM PST up reply actions
GET IT THRU YOUR HEADS... CHURRO DAN DOESN'T CARE ABOUT UCLA
All Churro Dan cares about keeping power and prolonging his milking of UCLA until he gets his $500,000 per year pension.
That is quite possibly the most criminal aspect of everything… Not only will UCLA athletics be feeling the effects of his fvcktardery long after he is gone. The state pension fund is going to be paying this completely worthless boob millions after he is gone.
by beanandcheeseburrito on Dec 10, 2011 10:24 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Words fail me
But I just can’t invest more of my time in this train wreck of a program. I’ll always be a Bruin but, as I did with the criminal Frankrupt McCourt, I’m checking out until this entire regime is gone. So long, guys.
by wmm on Dec 10, 2011 10:59 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
We all need to relax, this hire aint that bad
I agree that this isnt the best hire we could have gotten but it is what it is. Jim Mora is not that bad of a coach guys. Im more concerned about the investment required to improve our facilities, the assistants we hire, etc. The OVERALL culture needs to change not just the coach. We need for our department to change its approach for football and get with the program. Let us support this new coach and if he doesnt work out fire guerrero. This is his last straw.
The last straw was the Neu hire... this hire was to save him from the electric chair...
Sorry but his last ditch effort to save his career at UCLA failed… he needs to get canned now.
by beanandcheeseburrito on Dec 10, 2011 10:27 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Really? Calm down?
What examples do you have that he’s not that bad of a coach? His losing NFL record? His mediocre record as an NFL coordinator? His one year of being a college graduate assistant?
If you think we’re going to improve facilities, assistant salaries, etc. with this hire, you’re joking yourself. That stuff was reserved for a top-notch coach like Petersen.
This is an abysmal hire, by a trenchant AD.
"Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden
by OswegoBruin on Dec 10, 2011 10:28 AM PST up reply actions
I get it, dont think im supporting this completely. Guerrero needs to go if this fails to any degree. +8 win season or out
I get the frustration bro, i really do. Ive been supporting this team ever since i attended ucla in 05. im at the point where i don’t want to support any of our athletic teams because of the huge lack of investment. I think most importantly our athletic department needs to get SERIOUS with its approach towards athletics. It is what it is. I see the red flags, i understand the disapproval. The guy doesn’t have the best resume but im willing to hear out his plan for our team, I have no other choice. I preferred more qualified candidates but for some reason or another we weren’t able to bring them in. Should guerrero be booted, DEFINITELY. A background in baseball and coming from a small school like irvine does not make him qualified to lead a world leading university like ucla. Trust me when i say im on the same boat as you guys: pissed, impatient, disappointed, humiliated, etc.
See, I feel your pain, but you're wrong.
We DO have a choice. We work to fire Dan Guerrero and MAKE this the athletic department that it needs to be. We should not just sit idle while he steamrolls the best memories of our collegiate lives into something that is the laughingstock of the collegiate world. This isn’t the 10 commandments here, this is a man, who owes his job to another man, who owes his job to a lot of people, and you bet your sweet Paloose that your donations influence who gets hired. We force DG out, and hopefully Block, and replace them with people that understand that UCLA is not just an academic powerhouse, but an athletic one as well.
"Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden
by OswegoBruin on Dec 10, 2011 10:51 AM PST up reply actions
Our facilities don't have to be that great. Our coaching does.
Wooden coached in substandard facilities for most of his career.
Plus, when it comes to recruiting, we have LA, the campus, the beach and the girls. That beats any facility anyone can build in Alabama.
by Seth Chandler on Dec 10, 2011 10:53 AM PST up reply actions
We didn't start winning national championships
until the year before Pauley opened, which means it was being built then.
"Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden
by OswegoBruin on Dec 10, 2011 11:03 AM PST up reply actions
We were winning conference championships...
…and winning games in the NCAA tournament when we were playing in the B.O. Barn. You obviously know nothing. Get the facts.
by Seth Chandler on Dec 10, 2011 3:36 PM PST up reply actions
But, my point remains
he acheived the greatest successes of his and any coaches lifetime with one of the best arenas in college sports. It was a major factor in recruiting Kareem. There is a correlation here.
"Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden
I'm not denying it helps.
All other things being equal. Read my original comment again.
by Seth Chandler on Dec 10, 2011 3:49 PM PST up reply actions
I'm not denying your original premise.
But Wooden was a great coach, and got help by getting the best players of his time.
"Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden
Not that bad???
4 years as a head coach and fired twice? How is that not a huge red flag that he should not be on top of a program?
by Seahawcla on Dec 10, 2011 10:35 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
I don't think you see what a risk this is
Dan had no margin for error after the last 10-11 years. To start this up is going to take time. Mora may be gone by then for greener pastures, or the Washington job. HE SAID HE WANTED TO BE THERE. He may lose patience when his contract is up and go back to the NFL. We needed a Briles or Leach. If Toledo could almost get us to the national championship, just think what Leach would have done. Those guys are the type who punch in and coach football. This is just the wrong hire for this job. We needed a guy who was hungry to continue proving himself, like Briles, not someone who’s trying to start things back up for himself. The ticker said he was seeking ASU and UCLA jobs.
Actually, I will wait to see what Mora has to say. I will be looking for commitment and humility and what he says. He needs to inspire me with his plan. Dan better have not sold us out for someone not passionate about the mission to take us back to glory days.
By supporting this hire you are supporting the prevailing culture at Morgan Center
Many of us are also concerned with the state of the facilities etc. However, this hire reflects status quo, as in the insular, tonedeaf and arrogant culture in Morgan Center. This is the same culture that is responsible for the substandard facilities, pauley renovation fiasco, student seating “survey” etc.
So by supporting this hire, DG will think he has done okay with this coaching search. If he can’t run a coaching search befitting our U.C.L.A. (as befittingly and proudly spelled the way gbruin does), he should be gone now and not if this new hire actually work out in the forlorn future.
by kerchkoffBR31 on Dec 10, 2011 10:50 AM PST up reply actions
Ever seen a picture of Mike Holmgren?
Pretty good coach.
by Seth Chandler on Dec 10, 2011 10:55 AM PST up reply actions
Obesity usually is hiding deeper issues. Not always, but a lot of the time.
None of the top tier coaches we wanted were anything close to what Donut looks like. Check them out.
Ever seen a picture of Mike Leach? Chip Kelly? Woody Hayes? Vince Lombardi?
I really object to the notion that being overweight is a sign someone isn’t a good coach.
by Seth Chandler on Dec 10, 2011 12:29 PM PST up reply actions
LOL didn't see you listed his name.
I was adding to the pile.
"Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden
Haha!
I thought you were disputing his membership on my list.
Sorry about being grouchy in my other comment, by the way. I’m not having a good day.
by Seth Chandler on Dec 10, 2011 3:51 PM PST up reply actions
For better or worse...
we’re going to have to get behind this guy and give him a chance when he lands. Now we have to hope he can comprise an innovative staff and recruit. We’re all pissed about the whole situation,but we need to continue to hold the admistration responsible for their inept leadership.
Wathcing the Montana St / SH game and someone jumped in mentioning UCLA to announce it’s new coach and I could have sworn one of the announcers said “what a mess”. Nice…
can we get Sam Houston's coach?
Jk
by JWongUCLA on Dec 10, 2011 10:35 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
now this is interesting...
from Gold:
Lots and lots of buzz that UCLA should pursue superrecruiter Adrian Klemm of SMU. Even more buzz that he’d come. Would be big hire
The ONLY way this is salvaged is if Mora brings in a top notch staff to do everything for him. And then, DG still would be a massive fail
for those that don't know
Klemm is the two-time non-BCS conference national recruiter of the year per Scout, Rivals and Foxsports
by bucknellbruin on Dec 10, 2011 10:34 AM PST up reply actions
maybe that's true
and if so, more power to you guys for rebelling against what UCLA has become. Unfortunately, I only know UCLA from the late 90’s on. I get that this program is crap compared to what it used to be because of DG and Block, but it’s all I know. So to me, while this hire and process were a complete joke, it’s just what i’ve come to expect as a UCLA fan
by bucknellbruin on Dec 10, 2011 10:37 AM PST up reply actions
But we can change!
It takes a commitment to making this program desirable to someone who has both a good coaching pedigree and a desire to bring it to the next level. We need improvements to facilities, assistant salaries, head coach salaries, admissions standards, the rose bowl, etc etc etc, then we make HONEST offers to coaches that we feel can take us there.
This is getting a cheap coach without improving anything and trying to pass it off as reinvention of UCLA football. Garbage.
"Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden
by OswegoBruin on Dec 10, 2011 10:39 AM PST up reply actions
and your last line
sums up every reason why this is so entirely unaccceptable.
Roses are red, violets are blue...f*** $C.
again...I AGREE
this is an awful hire. DG is a joke. BUT, we have a football coach. And if that coach is gonna bring in the best recruiter in the f**king country, then I see that as a good thing. Looking back at what happened with disgust is one thing, demanding change is one thing, but refusing to do the best you can with what you’re given is completely different. Mora is our coach. I hope he can turn it around, because if not we’ll have even more years of complete mediocrity
by bucknellbruin on Dec 10, 2011 10:41 AM PST up reply actions
Just because you expect it
Doesn’t mean we accept it and don’t tell us what to accept or not to accept. Worry more about your alma mater than ours.
i'm not telling you to accept it
actually i specifically commended you for not accepting it. All i did was AGREE that I don’t have the same expectations, because of the fact that I’m young, not an alum, and this is all I know.
Also the day that Bucknell could beat UCLA in basketball is not one I expected to see any time soon…but i have no hesitation saying it would happen this year. Another example of DG’s failure
by bucknellbruin on Dec 10, 2011 10:44 AM PST up reply actions
Anytime people start talking about staff to sell a hire... You bombed the hire.
The simple fact of the matter is that coaches are not morons.
We know that Mora Jr is a failure of a hire. We know that Churro Dan is not going to make any investment in facilities or staff.
Why would a top flight assistant to come work for Churro Dan and Moran Jr?
by beanandcheeseburrito on Dec 10, 2011 10:36 AM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Precisely.
"Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden
by OswegoBruin on Dec 10, 2011 10:36 AM PST up reply actions
I AGREE HE BOMBED THE HIRE
And that he should be fired. Holy sh*t. But like it or not, we have a football coach. Why the f**k is it a bad thing if he brings in the best recruiter in the country. I want Mora to do well. I don’t think he will, but since he’s here I want him to make UCLA a powerhouse again.
by bucknellbruin on Dec 10, 2011 10:38 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Frankly, I want him to go 0-12 in his 1st season...
so we can shitcan the whole lot of them… Blockhead, Churro Dan and Moran Jr.
by beanandcheeseburrito on Dec 10, 2011 10:41 AM PST up reply actions
yeah well
I hope he actually succeeds and goes 12-0. Because then we’ll win the national title.
Now would I rather go 0-12 than 6-6? Yeah, probably
by bucknellbruin on Dec 10, 2011 10:42 AM PST up reply actions
I don't believe in fairytales or shortcuts to success...
When I was looking to get a really good hunting dog, I researched different sires and dams. I researched how their offerspring did.
After spending a couple of months of vigilantly following the breedings of the top dams, I found a breeding that I wanted to purchase a puppy from. I paid top dollar for the pup (about 5 times what most pups sell for). I did all the stimuli programs, fed him the best food/vitamins and spent time to socialize him.
When it was time, I sent him off to a trainer, who I also diligently researched (he was excited to train a pup from that litter). A few thousand dollars in training later and a good handler… I had one of the best trial dogs in the country.
However, no matter how money I invested in training or a handler… the dog had to have the ability in him to excell. I did my very best to find a pup that gave me the best chance of finding that ability.
So to revert it back to this coaching search… I don’t care what assistants or facilities we toss his way, he has to have the coaching ability.
As Bobby Bowden used to say… “the dog has to have the hunt in him”.
All indications are the Moran Jr can’t hunt…
by beanandcheeseburrito on Dec 10, 2011 11:04 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
and don't get me wrong, its a good analogy
but in the end, i will root for this football team to win. If they start struggling, then yeah, I’ll hope all hell breaks lose. But before the season even starts? Let’s go undefeated
by bucknellbruin on Dec 10, 2011 11:07 AM PST up reply actions
You are kind of dense aren't you
Read my comment below, and thanks a lot for enabling Chianti Dan. Lots of weak-minded folk like you in our alumni base, unfortunately.
But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.
You need to be 14-0 to win the national title
And because of the attitude that you just showed, Chianti Dan has no fear bringing in ANYONE, even a bum off the street, because you’ll just say “oh well, we have a coach now, let’s support him!”. If people like you and alumni didn’t have that cheese-eating surrender monkey attitude, he wouldn’t be able to do this.
But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.
+1
Best case scenario is DG gets fired, but Mora succeeds.
by Class of 09 on Dec 10, 2011 10:45 AM PST up reply actions
Better scenario
DG gets fired, Mora’s hire rescinded (a la ASU), new kickass AD (from WSU) spring cleans Morgan Center, and Leach has a conversation with Football God before he hitches a ride to Westwood with the new AD from Pullman.
Yes, a Bruin can only dream because reality is so darn depressing
by kerchkoffBR31 on Dec 10, 2011 10:57 AM PST up reply actions
Still
I’m not going to hope the team loses.
And I am going to support Mora if/when he makes correct decisions, such as Klemm.
by Class of 09 on Dec 10, 2011 10:59 AM PST up reply actions
When did I hope for the team to lose?
ASU rescinded the offer to June Jones before he even step foot on campus, following pushbacks from boosters, alums and students.
DG could still do the same.
Wanting a better coach for my Bruins is wanting my team to win.
by kerchkoffBR31 on Dec 10, 2011 11:12 AM PST up reply actions
Not you, read some posts above the one you replied to.
by Class of 09 on Dec 10, 2011 11:27 AM PST up reply actions
You just don't understand
There’s a difference between rooting for a team to lose, and not rooting at all…
But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.
Or maybe that new AD could make a new pitch to Petersen or a similar coach.
For example, were I AD, I’d offer: 5 million per year, 3 million for assistants, lowered admissions standards and more academic support (a la Stanford) once the athletes get here, force them to attend class, completely renovate facilities, work with students to get part of the IM fields, Drake, or Soccer field, appropriated for football practice, so we can have 100 yards to practice on, work with Morgan Center to completely revamp marketing. Done. How many big time coaches would turn that down?
"Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden
by OswegoBruin on Dec 10, 2011 10:59 AM PST up reply actions
You don't have air raid personal
Prince and Brehaut are okay QBs but they would never survive in the Air Raid offense.
As for Moos, he is a WSU alum and his ranch is in the Palouse
Attractive, Intelligent, Smart A**
by Neil Vincent Roberts on Dec 10, 2011 11:35 AM PST up reply actions
Moos was tongue in cheek, I don't think anyone expects him to leave
but you don’t seem to know much about the UCLA roster. Hundley is going to be a redshirt frosh next year and was a 5 star recruit and rated as the best QB in the west. Not to mention that the entire point of the Air Raid is that you don’t need top notch players to execute it.
No you don't
but at WSU you have proven talent in Jeff Tuel as your starter next year, an up and comer in Connor Halliday, Marquess Wilson and some pretty good (mostly proven) depth at WR around him.
Hard to find an available job with that kind of talent. that could/should fit right into your system (right off the bat).
Attractive, Intelligent, Smart A**
by Neil Vincent Roberts on Dec 11, 2011 2:16 AM PST up reply actions
You got to excuse a depressed Bruin fan on that
We know the boat has sailed and it was tongue in cheek to reflect and contrast the lousy job our AD DG has done wrt the coaching search.
I know Moos’ deep ties to WSU and the proactive way he went about targeting and cultivating a relationship with Leach, who is a great coach who I believe will do very well at WSU. The qualities in your AD and new coach are some of the same I am hoping for in our AD and new coach. Unfortunately, we Bruins are not so lucky.
by kerchkoffBR31 on Dec 10, 2011 12:26 PM PST up reply actions
You know he is not a JR right?
You might want to know your coaches name. Which is Jim L. Mora. His dad is Jim E. Mora. He is not Jim Mora Jr. Good luck, I would be pissed to if UW hired a pro coach with no college experience that was a UCLA grad and grad assistant. But you never know.
Yes, we do know that
He got the nickname of “junior” since his dad was an NFL coach, too.
Just more false advertising that our A-holl AD fell for. What a colossal fuckup.
greg in denver, U.C.L.A. guy for life - BruinsNation.com
You know it is spelled "dog" and not "dawg", right?
by JimmyBurke on Dec 10, 2011 12:22 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Doesn't matter, man.
DG needs to go, and Mora with him. It’s a travesty.
"Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden
by OswegoBruin on Dec 10, 2011 10:37 AM PST up reply actions
We could get Heidi Klumm to do our recruiting
It doesn’t mean beans if our coach can’t coach, and his record proves that he can’t coach.
by Fox 71 on Dec 10, 2011 10:52 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
There are no magic bullets.
The only way this news works for me is:
A) We actually hire the guy.
B) He actually brings in great recruting classes (I’m not talking about ratings, I’m talking about game changers.
C) We contend for Pac 12/National Championships
Winning is not a sometime thing; it's an all the time thing. You don't win once in a while; you don't do things right once in a while; you do them right all the time. Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing. ~ Vince Lombardi
You are wrong. A magic bullet fired solely by Lee H Oswald killed Kennedy
front and back
front and back
Too soon? :)
by charnaw on Dec 10, 2011 3:27 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
No. That needs to be debunked in public as well.
Winning is not a sometime thing; it's an all the time thing. You don't win once in a while; you don't do things right once in a while; you do them right all the time. Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing. ~ Vince Lombardi
Protest outside Morgan Center.
We’re all preaching to the choir unfortunately. Dan and Block will only be embarrassed and forced into action if we all gather outside of Morgan and protest. Right now would be the perfect time as it may coincide with the official announcement. Who’s in?
Sad Truth
is that the unDynamic Duo know that they will silence a lot of voices just by hiring someone. Not everyone shares our passion, most will take a ‘wait & see aproach’
"Players with fight never lose a game, they just run out of time"
~ John Wooden
Blockhead doesn't care about athletics...
if the donors can be placated enough by the Moran Jr hire so that he can cash their checks for his beloved projects, like the medical center, he is happy with whomever Churro Dan hires.
by beanandcheeseburrito on Dec 10, 2011 10:39 AM PST up reply actions
Does anyone know the deal, as in $?
This, I gotta hear.
Better Have Not Been Top Dollar
this guy’s not worth it
"Players with fight never lose a game, they just run out of time"
~ John Wooden
I heard that we are paying him $2M per year and staff $2M...
but from what I heard, i don’t have a bro subscription, Pierson is reporting something around $3M…lol
by beanandcheeseburrito on Dec 10, 2011 10:43 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Can someone give me Chianti Dan's phone number
Because I’ve a bridge I’d to sell him. That’s criminal with no other bidders. Stealing.
Well done Doofus DG, Tier 1 dollars for a Tier 4 coach
/sarcasm.
Wonder how much the kickbacks referral fees to executive recruiters DG, Fields and Donahue for their admirable roles in finding an out-of-coaching and with-no-offer-in-sight coaching candidate an lucrative job. “Failing forward” has a new poster boy and is no longer limited to corporate world anymore.
by kerchkoffBR31 on Dec 10, 2011 11:06 AM PST up reply actions
Peter Principle: Failure Upwards
by USC prof Lawrence Peter. Proven to be true in hires. QED.
I stand corrected on the term
Must be a mental block to try not to correctly credit an USC professor.
by kerchkoffBR31 on Dec 10, 2011 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
$12 million for 5 years
At least that’s what I’ve seen reported.
Mora wouldn't take a 3 or 4 year offer I guess...
He probably told CD that he multiple offers on the table and would only sign with UCLA for 5 years guaranteed.
by ConfofChamps on Dec 10, 2011 5:46 PM PST up reply actions
And DG should have laughed in his face.
He’s been out of work for two years now. But I bet he didn’t.
"Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden
by OswegoBruin on Dec 10, 2011 10:41 PM PST up reply actions
word is mora-less
Will be going after klemm (smu) and Broussard (asu) for assistants.
by bruin578 on Dec 10, 2011 10:45 AM PST via iPhone app reply actions
It will be all about the assistants they bring in
"Players with fight never lose a game, they just run out of time"
~ John Wooden
The hour is far too late.
It should be about how fast DG gets sh#$canned.
"Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden
by OswegoBruin on Dec 10, 2011 10:55 AM PST up reply actions
Two spread "air raid" coaches
Interesting.
Here is the beauty of the whole thing.........(sarcasm)
in the course of the past few months our local teams have done the following………..
LA KINGS: Acquired Mike Richards and Simon Gagne. Bold moves to get two proven scoring threats. Made a commitment to winning.
LA ANGELS OF ANAHEIM: Do I need to even talk about Arte Moreno and if he wants to win? Albert Pujols and CJ Wilson. Enough said!
LA CLIPPERS: Signed Caron Butler and will resign DeAndre Jordan for 42 million for 5 years. Up and comers………..can you believe that Sterling is finally spending his money? Will make the playoffs.
LA LAKERS: They WILL get Chris Paul. The trade was just resubmitted and my guess is they will get Paul signed, sealed, and delivered by Monday. Whether or not you agree they gave up too much, they are going to get the best PG in the league and their commitment to winning is unquestioned. Is Dwight Howard next? Don’t put it past them.
LA DODGERS: They are disaster because of McCourt. However, they just signed Kemp to a huge contract and they are sure to take off once Magic or some other billionaire owns the team. It is just a matter of time because they got rid of the disease (McCourt) that has brought them down so low. Question? Who is worse at their jobs as leaders? McCourt as the Dodger owner or Block as the UCLA Chancellor?
USC Football: I hate them……….but you gotta give them credit this year. Kiffin did a good job and they are at least feeling good about themselves.
That leaves…………..
UCLA Athletics: We just got a future Hall of Famer in Jim Mora Jr. We also just said goodbye to Reeves Nelson, our best basketball player. HMMMM……why do I feel like we got ripped off in the deal. Now I know what Charlie Brown meant when he said……..
“I got a rock”. Well fellow Bruins……….we just got a big boulder thrown our way. Should be a fun 3-4 years. Thanks Dan and Gene, don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
yep it's an utter travesty
when the CLIPPERS are making the right moves and commitments to win
Here's the official announcement.
Hilarious. Block comments more on academics than athletics. I’m shocked, shocked I tell you.
http://www.uclabruins.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/121011aab.html
"Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden
are you kidding me?
I really thought this was all just a bad joke or rumor….or shall I say I was really hoping….
Wake up sleepyhead.
little did you know this is Mad Max earth up in here.
"Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden
by OswegoBruin on Dec 10, 2011 11:13 AM PST up reply actions
I think I see the long range strategy
This will sound like I need a tinfoil hat, but think it trhough.
We take as a given that an NFL retread cannot succeed in college. So we hire a guy who did not even last long enough to need re-treading. We get a guy fired twice in four years, who no one has wanted for the last two years. (Takes a sip of coffee.)
We remind the world in general, and our new coach in particular, that the stereotype is wrong. Cheatie Petie was an NFL retread who was a great success across town. We make doubly sure to remind our new coach about Cheatie Petie’s success, and how Cheatie parlayed that success to get our new guy’s job in Seattle. We make sure there are lots of Cheatie Petie pictures and sayings and all that in our new guy’s field of vision. (Takes another sip of coffee.)
Our new guy says he can be just as great a success as Cheatie Petie. I’ll show all those nay-sayers. (Another sip.)
And of course Block the Schlock knows this. (Chianti Dan is so f-ing stupid he doesn’t even know what day it is or why there is all this uproar, but that’s to be expected since he has never heard of our new guy.) Block the Schlock knows how Cheatie Petie succeeded. Everyone knows (except Chianti Dan, of course, who knows nothing) that the only way for our new guy to succeed is to out-do Cheatie in the cheating department. But being basically an inept bumbler (our new guy, not Chianti Dan), our new guy won’t be able to hide the cheating like Cheatie Did.
So the strategy is that Block hired a guy who will have to cheat, who will surely get caught, and who will get UCLA sanctioned. This will give Block the opportunity to do what he’s wanted to do since he arrived, and that is to close down the athletic department, and convert it to a rehab annex for the med center.
I really think this is the only logical explanation under the circumstances.
This is 1984 for UCLA football.
God help us if you’re right.
"Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden
by OswegoBruin on Dec 10, 2011 11:05 AM PST up reply actions
And can someone photoshop a little fridge with Dan riding it getting blown out of the blast zone?
"It's not who you are underneath. It's what you DO that defines you."
Interesting quotes:
“I am proud to announce today that Jim Mora has accepted the position of head football coach at UCLA,” said Guerrero.
“I am sickened to think that Guerrero offered Jim Mora the position of head football coach at UCLA,” said every UCLA fan who cares.
“He has been a head coach at the game’s highest level and has clearly demonstrated to me that he is hungry and eager to return to the sidelines.”
“Hungry and eager to return to the sidelines”. Translation = I’ve been unemployed for a long time and I’m finally glad to get a paycheck! I’ve been unemployed for a long time because I’m a terrible choice for HC.
“As someone who has been around the game of football my entire life, I have always held the UCLA job in the highest esteem,” said Mora. “Given its location and its tradition, UCLA is truly a sleeping giant and I realize that an opportunity of this magnitude doesn’t present itself more than once in a career, so I jumped at the chance to be a Bruin.”
Translation – Everyone knows UCLA has the potential to be huge. I’m not sure why these idiots offered me the job, but I’d be stupid not to take the offer.
“UCLA has always been a place of high expectations, as it applies to our students, our faculty, our researchers and, not least of all, our athletic program. With more NCAA championships than any other university, the reality is that our fans count on us to be great. The hiring of Jim L. Mora as head coach of UCLA football proves that this is still a place where champions are made and integrity matters,” said UCLA Chancellor Gene Block.
I emphasis the HAS. I look forward to the day when UCLA IS a place of high expectations. Apparently it’s obvious it isn’t today.
Just curious - Can someone say 1 good thing about Mora?
I mean he has to have 1 redeeming quality as a HC right? I mean, did he come work for us for peanuts?
He's punctual.
"Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden
by OswegoBruin on Dec 10, 2011 11:24 AM PST up reply actions
He remembers birthdays
Just hearsay but he not only remember birthday of his staff, he does the same for their kids too. Also, he knows a good Chianti when he sees one.
But no truth to the rumor that he has the best donut recipe on planet earth.
by kerchkoffBR31 on Dec 10, 2011 11:31 AM PST up reply actions
In all the years...
of suffering through the mediocrity that has become UCLA A—letics, this day is the worst. Although I expected Dan GUERROR aka Chianti Dan to fail miserably in his head coaching hire, I deep down inside had a sliver of hope that UCLA would somehow pull something out of their arse. EPIC FAIL. The thought of having to go through the same crap again for the next half decade is inconceivable and utterly depressing. It is a sad day in Bruin Nation. The full force of Bruins everywhere should now be directed towards firing Dan Guerrero and finding his replacement. #NoMoraDan #FireDanNow
by bruindodger on Dec 10, 2011 11:22 AM PST via mobile reply actions
This whole situation with the Administration reminds me of a quote:
“Kids play with magnifying glasses, but the insects die in earnest.”
"Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden
I heard it about frogs.
Bartlett says this:
“Though boys throw stones at frogs in sport, the frogs do not die in sport, but in earnest.” From Plutarch, Water and Land Animals.
“Boys like Chianti Dan and Block the Schlock thrown grenades at the bruin athletic program in sport, but the program dies in earnest” would be the modern translation.
Ah thank you Fox.
Mine is a modern bastardization of a far superior quote. Should have known you’d have it handy.
"Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden
by OswegoBruin on Dec 10, 2011 10:42 PM PST up reply actions
Unfortuantely, about all you students can do
Is call and email the Chancellor and Guerrero and express your dismay at the hiring of Mora, and then hope that the team will perform well. I’ll give Mora a chance to prove himself. But as an alumnus from the ‘70s, this whole mess for the last 10+ years has been quite painful to watch. I feel especially bad for the current students. They’re being robbed of great experiences and memories from their college years AND they’re being embarrassed at the same time. This is not the same UCLA I attended.
I’ll be expressing my views in writing to Chancellor Block and will not be writing any more checks to UCLA, nor will I buy any UCLA merchandise or attend any football games in the near future. When school representatives call, asking for donations (and they seem to call often,) I’ll decline, and give my reason. I will not donate any more money until Mr. Guerrero is replaced as AD. It gives me no pleasure to do this, but these are the only means at my immediate disposal to express my views.
In my view Dan Guerrero has done serious harm not only to the football program, but also to the UCLA brand. Stepping back, one must ask why Albert Carnesale hired Mr. Guerrero in the first place. I know from other alumni the background & history on this decision and am convinced this man was not the most qualified and suited for the role of AD when he was hired. Far more qualified candidates were passed over in favor of Guerrero. After the 50-0 debacle, I took the opportunity to re-connect with one of my old college roommates, a member of the Bruin basketball team in the ’70s. He helped advise the consultants on candidates to present to Carnesale. I had faint recollections on the Guerrero hire, but he was much closer to the situation. He told me his personal favorite at the time was Gail Goodrich and thought UCLA was going to hire him, but there were other good candidates as well. To this day, he has his views on why Guerrero was selected, but will be keeping those to himself.
This situation goes to show how one bad hiring decision many years ago can have a major impact on the lives of many people. My advice to all you younger people: When, during your career, one of your hires goes south, always try to isolate the variables, the reasons, for the failure. Then, try to eliminate those variables in your next decision. I realize this is very little consolation to you now, in your anger (which I share). But try to learn from this situation and gain from it.
You can't extrapolate graphs like that.
He’s due!
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