Clueless Dan Guerrero and His Coaching Hire are Mocked Around the Country
First things first, I will support our student-athletes every day of the week. This isn't on them. I will root for Coach Mora to succeed. I understand his desire to take the job and compete. Also, if someone offered me $12 mil for a job, even if I knew I couldn't do it well, I'd still sign and and make sure I bring in the best assistants in the world to make it work. Plus, I'm sure Mora really believes he can succeed. So this isn't on him.
This is all on clueless bumbling incompetent Chianti Dan Guerrerror.
As a passionate and admittedly biased fan base, we have hurled a lot of venom at Chianti lately, and deservedly so. We're all angry about what was a short-sighted, unimaginative, and typically conservative hiring process. But it isn't just the U.C.L.A. fan base that is befuddled by this hire. Impartial sportswriters around the country, who have no horse in the race and aren't emotionally involved in the process, are equally confused. And there are plenty of examples. After the jump ...
Paul Meyerberg, who writes the excellent blog Pre-Snap Read (when he isn't doing his other job writing for the New York Times) had this to say...
The Bruins are living in the past, and not the recent past: U.C.L.A.'s mindset is trapped in 2003, when everyone - not just the Bruins - was looking for the next Pete Carroll, an N.F.L. coach with a golden touch for the college game. Unfortunately, it's no longer 2003. It's no longer than 2005, 2007 or 2009. It's 2011, and in hiring Jim Mora as Rick Neuheisel's placement, U.C.L.A.'s football program shows how far behind the curve it really is.
Only U.C.L.A. would hire a coach 27 years removed from a single season spent on the college ranks: Mora has three more years of college playing experience than college coaching experience. That was in 1984, when a fresh-faced Mora went straight from the Washington secondary - he was a solid defensive back for the Huskies - to the Washington sidelines.
It's obvious to a writer across the country that our athletics program is run by someone so apathetic and ill-prepared.
I suppose there was no other way this disastrous coaching search could end. U.C.L.A.'s search started strong, with an offer going out to Chris Petersen and inquiries towards Al Golden, but ended with an unbelievable whimper. Or a shrug, as it's clear that athletic director Dan Guerrero did little homework in his search and cares even less about the future of this football program.
The nationwide perception is that Guerrerror is clueless to make such an important decision as hiring a head football coach and that he had no Plan B after his initial efforts fell through.
These concerns are echoed by Coaches Hot Seat Blog:
....which leads us to the inescapable conclusion that the folks running UCLA athletics don't have a clue what the Hell they are doing at least when it comes to hiring football coaches.
There [are] at least 100 head and assistant coaches in the game of college football that are more importantly coaching in college football RIGHT NOW that we would have hired before we ever got to Jim Mora and that assumes that Jim Mora would have ever been on any list we would have ever drawn up for the head coaching job at UCLA and the FACT is Mora's name would have never been on that list.
Never mind that before the season even began, Bruins Nation discussed in a post (which was partly criticized as being premature and disrespectful) the need to have list of names to succeed Neuheisel should it become necessary. Names like Leach, Meyer, Petersen, Patterson, Malzahn, Mullen and others came up frequently. If Bruins Nation could do that, why couldn't our $700K athletic director? [/rhetorical question]
...how in the Hell can anyone possibly hire that coach for a head coaching position especially at a school like UCLA that needed the Best Damn Coach they could hire at this very critical moment in UCLA football history?
...but the folks at UCLA didn't bother talking to any of those 100 Legitimate Head and Assistant Coaches once they got past their reported initial "dream list" of Petersen, Golden and Sumlin.
Unfortunately for our new coach and for us, Mora is already on the Coaches Hot Seat Blog's radar, ensuring that U.C.L.A. will remain one of their national punching bags going forward.
SB Nation did a profile and ranking of the recent coaching hires with (sorry '66) Mike Leach and WSU at Number One, followed by Urban Meyer, RIchRod, Larry Fedora, and so on. Down near the bottom, next to last, is Jim Mora
This seems like a transparent attempt by UCLA to find their own Pete Carroll, a long-time NFL guy who failed as an NFL coach but has loads of experience and charisma. It worked out quite well for Carroll at USC (sans the NCAA sanctions, ahem), and perhaps the UCLA administration is correct in assessing that charisma comes before resume when it comes to succeeding in Southern California. Still, Carroll is the exception to the rule when it comes to the often difficult pro-to-college jump.
There is a major leap of faith involved with this hire. Mora has certainly paid his dues -- he has been coaching since 1984, when he was a graduate assistant on Washington's 11-1 Orange Bowl squad. Starting in 1985, however, all of his experience has come at the pro level, and his career record as NFL head coach is just 31-33. This was a shot in the dark, and while this type of hire does sometimes work, it goes without saying that it usually doesn't.
Is there a Bruin alive that wants to take "a major leap of faith" with Dan Guerrerror? It's is more like the proverbial jump off the Empire State Building your parents warned you about.
John Wilner who writes for the San Jose Mercury News, and blogs on the College Hotline explains that the Mora hiring is less important than the ongoing failures by the administration to support football.
Whether he's successful or not depends as much on the university's commitment to football as it does on Mora himself. If the school does not increase the salary pool for assistants ... if it doesn't improve the facilities, including the 80-yard practice field next to Pauley ... if there isn't a real push from the upper reaches of the administration to make football a priority (and this includes admissions) ... then nobody will win consistently in Westwood.
UCLA is, always and quite naturally, compared to USC. But in my opinion, the more accurate comparison right now is to Stanford. In 2006-07, the Cardinal had experienced one of the worst football stretches in school history and was at risk of permanent irrelevance due to a lack of commitment by the university. But the hiring of AD Bob Bowlsby ushered in a new era, with the school making an unprecedented commitment to the football program in the form of salaries and housing for assistants, recruiting budget and manpower, even a change in philosophy in the admissions office. Those infrastructure upgrades - the renovated stadium was a separate, earlier development - worked in unison with the hiring of Jim Harbaugh to lift Stanford out of the dark era. UCLA must do the same, or it won't matter who's doing the coaching.
Wilner also hits on the recent administrative fiasco when players were denied stipends and the likely consequences of that snafu.
Far worse, potentially, than hiring your fourth choice is the perception that you are denying players their food money. The situation...will no doubt be used against UCLA in recruiting and fuels the appearance that Bruin football is a mess.
Coaches By The Numbers weighed in. You may recall recent posts by Achilles that discussed CBTN's objective measures for stratifying coaching candidates, and slotting those who have the necessary tools and experience to be successful against those who interview well or just seem like they would make good coaches. Guerrero wasn't reading.
Here is what UCLA Dan Guerrero had to say when introducing Jim Mora, Jr. as the Bruins' next head coach:
"He has been a head coach at the game's highest level and has clearly demonstrated to me that he is hungry and eager to return to the sidelines."
What do you notice about the above? You should notice that Dan Guerrero doesn't read coachesbythenumbers.com. If he did, he would have read our article on NFL-Guys and noticed that coaches reared as NFL coaches have extremely limited success at the college level.
Of the top 50 active head coaches in our system since 2001 with a minimum of three years experience as a head coach, only three could be said to have significant NFL experience (Bo Pelini, Pat Hill, and Dennis Erickson), and two of these coaches were just recently fired. Also, how in the world does being "hungry and eager to return to the sidelines" qualify anyone to be a head coach? Here's a good rule of thumb for AD's to live by: if a coach is more eager for your job than you are to hire him for it, move on to the next candidate.
...hope and luck aren't ingredients for making consistently successful decisions. As we have talked about a lot on this site, when you are playing Blackjack and you hit on 18 and happen to draw a three, you didn't make a good decision (unless you can count cards like Rain Man); you were simply lucky. Eventually, making bad decisions (like hitting on 18) will cost you.
Coaches By The Numbers then graded U.C.L.A.'s hiring process as a D (note: that's for the process, not Mora himself). That's a D, as in Dan.
And though we don't always put a lot of stock in Bleacher Report, they are running the same message as everyone else.
The NFL and college football are two especially different games, as making the transition from pro to college or college to pro isn't exactly the easiest maneuver.
The other big issue with Mora is that he was quite unsuccessful as an NFL coach.
Make no mistake about it, Mora is quite the football mind and perhaps thinks he will be especially more successful in the college game. It is the numbers and his time away from college football that will make it a difficult task for the former NFL coach to succeed with the Bruins.
Add these thoughts to the post by Achilles yesterday which highlighted a similar report that went out of its way to blast our school for the administration of its football program, and you see the sort of image that the nation's writers and bloggers have of Chianti's decision making process.
As I said up top, this isn't about our student-athletes and it isn't about Mora. This is all about Guerrerror. We certainly realize that Chancellor Block has little interest in U.C.L.A. Athletics, but he has to have interest in U.C.L.A.'s image across the country. And Guerrerror is smearing that image every day.
Call the Chancellor's Office at 1 310 825-2151 and make his job easy for him. Get rid of Chianti Guerrerror, and give this football program a chance to compete in the 21st century.
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How is this fraud...
…still running the athletic department!? He should criminally charged for stealing public funds with what his salary is.
I was just getting over the anger
now I’m pissed again! That %$^ # idiot AD
Salary.
Still can’t believe we paid 12 million for this. Mora, may prove us wrong, but still baffled on how botched the negotiation was.
by Bruin'96 on Dec 13, 2011 11:35 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Yes, that just another Chianti Dan failure
Huge negotiation fail. He had no other offers that I’m aware of.
I’m with you.. I can’t believe they settled on Mora and still basically gave him everything they have. Doesnt Dan know how to negotiate? Also why did they hire this guy for 5 years? Kd barely lasted that long and rn couldn’t get past 4.. What makes Dan think this guy will last longer than they could?
by Big Bully on Dec 13, 2011 11:54 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Chianti Dan just doesn't understand college football
He thinks giving someone, anyone, a big salary signals to the rest of the country that UCLA is now serious about football.
But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.
Any sign of Block cracking?
Seems like Block is doing his impression of the three monkeys and all the phone calls, email, etc are being ignored.
You won't see any signs
If, and I mean “if” because I don’t know Chancellor Block personally, but if he decides Guerrero needs to go, you won’t see anything in public.
The chancellor, at least publicly, needs to appear as if he is supportive of a key subordinate. If he agrees that Dan Guerrero is not suitable for the tasks at hand, he will call Guerrero into his office and inform him that he needs to start looking for another job
by FreewayBruin03 on Dec 13, 2011 11:05 PM PST up reply actions
Daily Bruin or LAT ad
Is anybody interested in raising some funds through PayPal and run an ad in the Daily Bruin on the LAT (although I don’t want to support that joke of a newspaper). My idea would be an open letter to Chancellor Block, where we articulate our concerns, and call for the firing of DG. We could sign it as the Bruin Community. I’ve been calling everyday and I’ve sent a letter via US Mail every week for the past 4 weeks. No response. Let’s step up the public pressure. Anyone concerned about us airing our dirty laundry has got to be naive, because as this post shows – we’re a national embarrassment.
I'm In
I hate the Fishwrap Times but this may be a necessary evil. Even a billboard, if it gets the press. We need to step it up – Blockhead is playing the fiddle.
Dump Dan!
by bruinclassof10 on Dec 13, 2011 12:59 PM PST up reply actions
We tried this at the end of CTS's career
and the DB wouldn’t run the ad. I think it would be interesting to see what the next generation of student proprietors will do.
I know the DB won't do it - how about the Times? or a billboard?
MexiBruin’s petition was a great start, tazmiami’s post was excellent but I feel like we have to kick it up a notch for Block to actually know that we’re serious and this won’t go away in a week or so while he’s “out of the country.” Let’s put our collective heads/wallets together and get crazy with this (within the legal and moral limits)
Dump Dan!
by bruinclassof10 on Dec 13, 2011 1:30 PM PST up reply actions
Actually the DB did run our ad about firing Dorrell
It ran a couple of times in mid and late November and cost around $2,400. Here
is a link to the ad.
That ad created a lot of stir and although it is impossible to know without being in Dan’s head whether it had an impact on Dorrell’s firing weeks later, one cannot help but think that it underscored the message. It made the possibility real at a time when so many sports “reporters” were openly campaigning for Karl to keep his job, basically running full page ads on his behalf.
Could this be done for Dan Guerrero?? Sure. The DB can be convinced to do it again. But before anyone suggests it, I cannot lead this effort. I am too far away in Europe and too busy with my own business. I support any such effort though, and think it would be important for laying the groundwork for Dan’s removal. It would make it real to people, which is important.
former editor, DumpDorrell.com ... formerly posted as DumpDorrell
by BruinCore on Dec 13, 2011 8:54 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Correction - the DB ran 2 ads a total of 5 times
former editor, DumpDorrell.com ... formerly posted as DumpDorrell
we raised the $2,400
online via our website and BN from 48 donors pretty quickly. I know there are some original DD 48ers, as we called them, still posting here, including MexiBruin.
former editor, DumpDorrell.com ... formerly posted as DumpDorrell
Thanks BruinCore
Any way that we can do this again? I’ll pitch in and do what I can. This would send the message to Block and the students
Dump Dan!
by bruinclassof10 on Dec 13, 2011 10:54 PM PST up reply actions
Just need someone to head up the effort
Put a fanpost, find a way to collect and account for donations, and an example for the ad that can be tweaked by suggestions.
greg in denver, U.C.L.A. guy for life - BruinsNation.com
Just saw that you're in Europe
Editors – any way that we can re-publicize the past efforts and try to rally a Dump Dan movement? I’ll contribute monetarily and current students can contact the DB. Let’s start putting the full court press on Gene Boy
Dump Dan!
by bruinclassof10 on Dec 13, 2011 10:59 PM PST up reply actions
I'd support it
I proposed this idea the other week – and it received a few responses. First, someone mentioned that the Daily Bruin will not run an ad critical of the administration. Second, another person checked and posted that a full page ad in the LA Times was $15,000. For the letter, one idea was to list, in bullet point format, the points against DG in the top half of the letter. Then, in the second half of the letter, list in bullet point format 3-5 qualified candidates to replace DG. BN took a poll asking the community to vote last week on replacements and you can see the results here on the site.
Is a billboard cheaper?
Anybody have any insight into this? If Tennessee fans in Knoxville can get that together for Kiffin after he left, we can definitely do this
Dump Dan!
by bruinclassof10 on Dec 13, 2011 2:49 PM PST up reply actions
Ask DumpDorrell - sorry, but I don't remember his current screen name. He organized this the last time.
Isn’t this a shame? We have experience in doing billboards to try to fix our athletic program.
An ad in the Daily Bruin
probably is more effective, in my opinion, because it hits home (and they did run our Dorrell ad, as I mention above). Something about seeing it in print makes it real, in a way that a blog doesn’t. It also colors the campus environment for everyone. Imagine DG walking around campus after seeing that ad in the DB. It just can’t be the same campus anymore. It will have the feel of him being on the hot seat, whereas right now Im pretty sure he feels none of that.
Although an LAT ad would reach more people, including donors and boosters, it is not UCLA centric. It can certainly be effective, dont get me wrong, but I think making the campus environment uncomfortable for Guerrero is worse. That is just my humble opinion and preference.
A billboard is interesting and we considered it. At the time, billboard costs were around $9,000 if I remember correctly. The problem with the billboard is location. You have to choose the right location and the right time. With both the LAT and billboard though you are paying for many eyeballs that dont care about UCLA or UCLA athletics, whereas with the DB all your eyeballs care about UCLA. And if the ad is in the sports section then 100% of your eyeballs are going to care about UCLA sports. It’s reaches the intended audience better, in my opinion, and creates the discomfort for Guerrero on campus that an LAT and billboard have a harder time achieving. Plus it’s cheaper so it’s easier to raise the funds for and you can run the ad more times.
former editor, DumpDorrell.com ... formerly posted as DumpDorrell
Here is a suggestion for an ad
Take any quote from any national sports writer about Guerrero from this great post and attach the writer’s name and company, like we did with the Dump Dorrell ad, and you get instant credibility. Here are some zingers from that post:
“I suppose there was no other way this disastrous coaching search could end … it’s clear that athletic director Dan Guerrero did little homework in his search and cares even less about the future of this football program.” – Paul Meyerberg, NY Times
“which leads us to the inescapable conclusion that the folks running UCLA athletics don’t have a clue what the Hell they are doing at least when it comes to hiring football coaches” … Coaches Hot Seat (not as credible as NYT but still a great quote)
You could and should add some lines about his failures as well. Just my thoughts.
former editor, DumpDorrell.com ... formerly posted as DumpDorrell
by BruinCore on Dec 13, 2011 9:34 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
+1
You’re the man BruinCore – BN let’s put this plan into motion since is clear National Lampoon Gene is seeing, hearing and speaking no evil of Chianti Dan
Dump Dan!
by bruinclassof10 on Dec 13, 2011 11:01 PM PST up reply actions
Dan is damn lucky
to get a “D” from Coaches by the Numbers. Myself, I would have given him an “F-minus.” An “F” for the search process, itself. And, “minus” for being so bloody unprepared and for not doing all the things he should have been doing throughout the years, taking us to this point.
Is Dan not the poster child for “Failing to prepare is preparing to fail”?
Thanks, g, as Angelitos says, for giving articulate perception as to why I feel so rotten.
I questioned that, too...
What, pray tell, did ‘the process’ do to earn a D? Seems like they are into ‘grade inflation’ over there at FBTN. This entire process has been an abject failure from beginning to end. F for FAILURE.
by ConfofChamps on Dec 13, 2011 2:14 PM PST up reply actions
lol
Did anyone else notice that Mora’s shirt/tie got photoshopped on the official site? They were both shades of purple yesterday, today it’s a white shirt and blue tie. Just ridiculous that it was ever purple to begin with!
Hey Marketing!
Remember we’re blue and gold! No purple! “OHhhhh ok, I thought there was purple in there somewhere. I remembered to take out the monopoly line though! Can I get a raise like Dan did?”
Dump Dan!
by bruinclassof10 on Dec 13, 2011 1:39 PM PST up reply actions
Where are the students?
They shud be in uproar bout this! If this was a SEC school or BiG12 school they would be camping outside Morgan center and would be egging Chianti Dans car.
by Trojanswearskirts on Dec 13, 2011 1:46 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Only experienced losing under Dan
They unfortunately never experienced any greatness in the program. They have only experienced the losing under Dan’s watch.
that is the truth
I graduated in 07 and experienced a 10-2 season in FB and two final four appearances in BB while on campus. I went back last week and visited my cousin, a fourth year and asked her the question why the students don’t care. She said this exactly, all they have seen is losing so they know no better. It’s a shame.
Go Bruins
by nkbruin on Dec 13, 2011 6:52 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Truth
I saw 13-9 and things were downhill from there. My 2nd yr, we had K-Love, Westy, LRAM, Collison, Mata, Aboya – guys you knew, loved the four letters and the university. Now, thanks to Dan, we’re playing games in a place abandoned by U$C
Dump Dan!
by bruinclassof10 on Dec 13, 2011 8:09 PM PST up reply actions
That's a bullshit excuse...
Think WSU didn’t have a ‘loser’ culture??
OSU???
Think Oregon has always been at the top of the Pacific Conference?
What a bullshit excuse: “Oh, we haven’t won in the 4 years I’ve been here, so really, I don’t give a shit about ever winning”.
LAME.
Losers breed losers.
by ConfofChamps on Dec 13, 2011 10:48 PM PST up reply actions
I totally agree
but this defeatist attitude is being accepted by current students. Wasserman’s text during 50-0 says it all
Dump Dan!
by bruinclassof10 on Dec 13, 2011 10:58 PM PST up reply actions
The difference is
you have many other options to drown your sorrow in LA. Not so much in Corvallis, Pullman, Eugene…
Our school does a terrible job of keeping students engaged in sports, and they do it on purpose so that they can get away with providing mediocrity.
But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.
This is the only possible explanation
Mr Guerrero must be a double agent for USC. How else to explain his sabotaging
the UCLA athletic program?
I think its a conspiracy
We must’ve been put on probation when they gave us Guerrero
Dump Dan!
by bruinclassof10 on Dec 13, 2011 2:42 PM PST up reply actions
need a few volunteers to watch guerrero "work"
The quicker way to actually reach and convince Block he must fire Guerrero is to hand him a scandal that would force him to act lest the blame for the scandal be extended to him. The scandal in the starting blocks, subject to expansion wherever the discoveries lead, would be based on the notion the work Dan isn’t doing doesn’t earn him his bloated salary. Once details, including photographic evidence documenting his day, is made public, Block may crack and fire him him with an official Tsk Tsk, We Had No Idea He Was (fill in the blank).
What say those of us who love Ucla and are able—-students and retirees—-document Guerrero’s comings and goings to and from his office, play detective and discern the hours he keeps, and quite possibly his routine. Who knows—-in at 11, home at 1?? Napping on the couch? Hanging out at the beach? Or on-the-job and even extracurricular behavior much worse??? Our Bruin detectives may be able to get hold of his actual schedule, beyond his posted schedule, to find out where he’s traveling. Perhaps other Bruins, living in the areas he travels to, whether it’s by car to San Diego or by plane to Omaha, if they have the time and energy and if we can reach out to them, can join in the documentation of his daily job peformance.
Of course the schedule on the road is always the much harder to succeed in, but we have many Bruins right in Westwood who are as disgusted as any one of us, and who may have the time and energy to catalogue Guerrero’s schedule, and possibly his work day, work load and concomitant loafing time and chianti-guzzling, or the like.
I’m basing this idea on the fact of his absolute laziness when it comes to doing even the most public part of his job. He probably feels very secure because of Block’s inattentiveness and desire not to study what his AD does, evident in Block’s incredible letter congratulating Guerrero for securing The Greatest Coach Available. Since Guerrero is so outright lazy in public, he most certainly is lazy behind the scenes where no one knows what he’s up to and isn’t up to, i.e., doing his job. The details of his work schedule and workload can’t be complimentary for him. His documented lack of interest in securing a coach everyone would see as a smart pick proves it.
How about it, Bruin Community? Maybe even someone already working in or near his office? Or you may already have solid knowledge of skeletons to be revealed that will rid us of him. Post to this site and someone on the staff at Bruin Nation can contact you via email. Information must continue to be collected until we have enough to reveal to the public.
I bet Guerror
Is sitting at his desk in Moron Center and reading all these news, wondering why people aren’t cheering him as the savior of UCLA football.
“But I hired the guy that everyone at ESPN was talking about!” He said.
FU*KING IDIOT! excuse my language.
Here’s to Mora, doing the best he can, demanding the best for the team, and proving me wrong
U think he's really reading this???
He made his hire.
He’s off doing a donut (or wine) tasting; gladhanding idiots. His once-every-3 or 4- times a year job is done.
Now he’s stressing about Basketball coming up; if the monkeys start causing trouble; in the next year or two (or three)
by ConfofChamps on Dec 13, 2011 10:50 PM PST up reply actions
He doesn't read this
but hopefully others around him do…you can bet they know what’s being written here.
But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

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