Special CFB Open Thread: Petersen's Boise State v. Mazzone's ASU
by Nestor on Dec 22, 2011 5:20 PM PST
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PrintNormally we do not put up open threads for a single random bowl game. However, the Las Vegas Bowl game going on right now on TVee is not so random for the Bruin Universe. The game features two teams that have prominently factored into our football related discussions in recent weeks. We have Chris Petersen's Boise State. I don't think I have to add anything more on Petersen in this post. Okay, well if you didn't know who is you should read this thread (!).
On the other hand there is ASU where Noel Mazzone is finishing up his OC duties before joining Coach Jim Mora at UCLA. For UCLA fans wanting a possible preview of next season's offense ASU offense is always fun to watch. The game started just a little while ago and BSU thanks to an opening kickoff return is up 7-0. Here is the tWWL game page.
I will let you guys take it from here. The game is on ESPN. Fire away in this open game thread.
GO BRUINS.
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Sounds like Mora wants to have some pro-set in there
so this isn’t exactly what we’ll see from Mazzone’s UCLA offense, but this will be a lot of it. It’s interesting to see these two and three back sets out of the shotgun.
Two roads diverged in a wood and I – I tweeted my followers to ask which I should take
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Dec 22, 2011 5:24 PM PST reply actions
Mazzone Offense
I’m working on something on it. I wanted to watch this game to see how they did in a game that’s likely to be a blowout. I’m charting plays when ASU is on offense and I’ll have some analysis later.
So far, scheme-wise, it doesnt look bad – but ASU is just not executing. Last drive, they had 5 linemen vs 5 defenders and ran zone read – that’s an ideal situation and great call with 1 double team and 4 man on man blocks, and the BSU DT overpowered the double team to stop the RB for a small gain.
They looked so good early on in the season.
I thought that they would be one of the best teams in conference. I guess they were on some occasions, but others ???
Been a Bruin since birth
2 false starts after a personal foul...this could get ugly
ASU’s head is not in the game. They had to burn a TO after not getting lined up in time earlier….I’ve watched ASU v UCLA, Oregon, U$C, and Mizzou and I dont think i ever saw the play clock even go under 10 seconds before they snapped it. They were usually lined up and ready to go with 20-25 seconds left.
by jtthirtyfour on Dec 22, 2011 5:42 PM PST up reply actions
How much freedom does Mazzone give Osweiler, if you know?
He looks about as checked out as anyone.
Also, if you know, what kind of options does Mazzone give his WR’s
Formerly AllHailMightyBruins
QBs
Usually 1st read, 2nd read, then move and hit 3rd read on the move or scramble. Mazzone doesnt like QBs to stand there.
There game is usually a lot of shorter stuff with deep options, they are so good at getting the ball to the edge with bubble, swing, which opens up inside run game and snag (sort of like a slant-hitch route) which is great when defenders overplay bubble/swing.
They are off their game, last drive was almost entirely 2×2 formation (2WR each side) and just dropback passing which is not what they’ve done but probably because of the 14-0 hole and the fact that their OL is getting manhandled. Their base is usually 2RB, 3WR but this may be because of their missing RB #32, Miles who is out tonight. Also very little motion (usually around 50% of the time) and they’ve had to audible a few times (they rarely audible).
by jtthirtyfour on Dec 22, 2011 5:51 PM PST up reply actions
Also, Osweiler is typically very decisive with the ball (probably a product of both him as a QB and Mazzones coaching – clear simple reads). but he’s hesitant tonight.
by jtthirtyfour on Dec 22, 2011 5:53 PM PST up reply actions
Burfict made a great effort on that extra point......not
Should have penalized him for loitering.
Been a Bruin since birth
They need to go back to the way the bowls were set up before the BCS.
Then have a playoff for the championship.
Been a Bruin since birth
Depends on the number of bowl games.
Rose Bowl – Fiesta Bowl – Orange Bowl – Sugar Bowl -—What am I missing?
Been a Bruin since birth
I always thought Cotton is a big deal
Meanwhile ASU just opened the half with a kickoff return for TD.
Yikes
Osweiller just told Mazzone and Erickson to take a hike and went for it on 4th. He ended up not converting. But I thought he had the right mindset. Can’t believe ASU was going for the punt.
I think it's tough to make too much out of this game
ASU players are kind of checked out and winging it. Mazzone’s scheme seems cool but the guys are not executing it.
poor effort all around
unfortunately, we’ve had some of these performances as well.
by jtthirtyfour on Dec 22, 2011 7:23 PM PST up reply actions
one game with a departing HC and a team that's checked out.
not indicative of body of work.
by Kenneth Powers on Dec 22, 2011 7:50 PM PST up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYD6X_JRrAE&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PL2589B2124BDCCB2E
watch.
Fascinating stuff.
Not as flashy as Oregon’s O, but I like the idea of chipping away at them and then punishing them when they falter. Pro style uses that same kind of approach, so I’d think they could be married into Mora’s “multiple” offense pretty well.
Also, that trick play at 9:24 was being set up ALL game (look how many times they pull the RB back around the QB in the earlier game).
And check what happens at 12:00
Now imagine that with Hundley!
Erickson
I’d put more blame on Erickson for penalties and lack of focus – ASU has been one of the most penalized teams in NCAA since Erickson got there. Plenty of personal fouls on offense and defense have killed them. You have to play well to hang with the #7 team in the country, they have not played well at all, and from the opening kickoff they have shown a lack of effort.
That doesn’t excuse both Mazzone and Broussard from the performance tonight, but I’d say that it plays a big role and that next year Coach Mora better make sure our players come ready to play every game.
by jtthirtyfour on Dec 22, 2011 7:57 PM PST up reply actions
BCS & Pac-12 (predictions update)
LSU over Bama
Boise over Arizona st. ( 4th quarter and this game is sealed; not that impressed with az offense)
Texas over Cal
Baylor over Washington
Georgia Tech over Utah
UCLA over ill
Oregon over Wisconsin
Stanford over Oklahoma st. (difficult choice)
This system blows.
They shouldn’tve had to play ASU just because they lost once. This team deserved a shot at a BCS-level team.
Yes it does... 56-24 hopefully sends some kind of message to the BCS.
There really needs to be something like an 8 team playoff system.
Osweiler on Mazzone
@DougHaller tweet
ASU quarterback Brock Osweiler couldn’t control his emotions when discussing outgoing OC Noel Mazzone. Said he made him the QB he is.
by Kenneth Powers on Dec 22, 2011 10:05 PM PST reply actions
They are having a contest on uclabruins.com
for a tagline for one of these idiotic posters.
by Kenneth Powers on Dec 22, 2011 10:08 PM PST reply actions
+1. We should send our own poster..
by Trueblue'09 on Dec 22, 2011 10:20 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I'm sorry.
I’m just not impressed with this Mazzone offense. Very soft IMO. Hopefully it’s a reflection of a bad team and not his scheme. I much prefer a pro set, power running game. This is not a tough offense at all, based on tonight’s game at least.
You watched one game with an outgoing HC and a team that's checked out.
Hardly indicative of body of work.
Under Mazzone, ASU jumped from the bottom of FBS to a top 25 scoring offense.
by Kenneth Powers on Dec 22, 2011 10:14 PM PST up reply actions
+1. No excuse
We will see how Mazzone takes on the offense playbook at UCLA. As for now, there shouldn’t be an excuse for their (asu) offensive performance today. I mean UCLA at least put up a fight against the ducks and they were in a similar coaching situation. Like always, I will base it on actions.
by Trueblue'09 on Dec 22, 2011 10:29 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
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