UCLA Coaching Hot Stove: Strike Three for Chianti Dan, Golden Reportedly Says No
by Nestor on Dec 5, 2011 9:03 AM PST
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This shouldn't be a surprise to anyone here. From the OC Register:
Miami coach Al Golden is no longer a candidate at UCLA, the Orange County Register has learned.
UCLA officials contacted Golden late last week about the Bruins' head coaching vacancy but Golden informed the university over the weekend that he is staying at Miami.
Golden's decision to stay put comes after UCLA's first two choices, Boise State coach Chris Petersen and Houston's Kevin Sumlin, also turned down UCLA athletic director Dan Guerrero.
Let's remind once again to everyone how the timing of it was so absurd. UCLA got blown up by Arizona on Oct. 20. Despite being urged by high profile supporters Chianti Dan at the time refused to fire Rick Neuheisel by holding on for meaningless victories against Cal and ASU. Al Golden reportedly signed his extension with Miami around November 25.
If Chianti Dan actually had a strategic plant to pursue Golden the timing would have been right after the Arizona game and before he signed his extension. The basic idiocy and incompetency is surreal and it is mindboggling that Gene Block's UCLA is paying this guy almost $700,000 a year to burn our major revenue programs into the ground. So this is essentially strike three for Chianti Dan.
Also, for those who are visiting this site for the first time please take a look at our coaching criteria for Rick Neuheisel's replacement which provides reason why we are not going to accept washed out coaches or with anyone has ties to UCLA athletics from previous coaching regimes (that should cross of candidates such as Mike Bellotti or the fantasy of anointing Mike Johnson as the extended interim coach into next season.
We will ride this thread for now and post updates when they become a available. The Golden debacle becomes just one more reason why all alums should be calling Gene Block's office to urge the Chancellor to intervene in this process and prevent Guerrero from further embarrassing UCLA.
GO BRUINS.
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Winning is not a sometime thing; it's an all the time thing. You don't win once in a while; you don't do things right once in a while; you do them right all the time. Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing. ~ Vince Lombardi
Fedora, Mullen
What’s the use? Guerrero is just going to ignore them all. I want to die. Just kill me. Right here, in my feelings.
I have the Sons of Westwood on my iPod in my "favorites" playlist ...
http://sonsofwestwood.wordpress.com
Even if they were offered the job
DG would screw it up somehow, someway. I honeslty see no positive ending to this whole fiasco
Really need to get on Mullen
if Mullen expressed interest as has been posted by others. No brainer for Dan.
I should be working right now...
+1
Los Angeles Rams and the UCLA Bruins!!!!!
by Minnesota Bruinfan on Dec 5, 2011 10:50 AM PST up reply actions
FIRE FLOUNDER GUERRERO !!!
A mug that only a Trogan could love…
by beanandcheeseburrito on Dec 5, 2011 9:07 AM PST reply actions
thanks for the recurring nightmares
I just threw up.
But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.
Are there any undergrads here?
When I was in school, Chancellor Block held student office hours on a first-come, first-serve basis. I’m not sure if he still does this but if a group of students could organize a sit-down, maybe we can rally the troops here at BN and submit a formal version of MexiBruin’s petition and drop off boxes of UCLA athletic apparel and void checks. I’m sure he’d get the message then.
Dump Dan!
by bruinclassof10 on Dec 5, 2011 10:24 AM PST up reply actions
Gaaah!!!
“PETERSEN YOU LOUSY MINX! YOU SENT OUT ALL THE SIGNALS!!”
Oh UCLA you sweet bitch, you've BRUINed me for anything else.
My theory
Guerrero goes out in his press conference, says some nice things about understanding the need for renovations, that the new TV contract gives us more money to make an appealing offer, that we need to raise our profile.
He then goes out and makes inept pitches to Petersen, Sumlin, and Golden. We get turned down by three, he uses this as an excuse to then get a weak coach (Walker, Bellotti, Cable) who would be grateful for any sniff from UCLA and then give him a small salary as a way to save money. Dan shrugs and says “what else could I do? All of the big guys turned us down?”
I can’t help but feel that this is what’s going to happy.
I agree
It is exactly what is going to happen because his ass is in trouble with the botching of the financing of the pauley “renovation”.
We’ll spend no more on coaches than we already are so he can take the additional $10M from our TV deal and cover the $30M that he is in the red.
by beanandcheeseburrito on Dec 5, 2011 9:15 AM PST up reply actions
They are setting us up for hiring coaches like Mike Bellotti and June Jones
The spin is going to be how these guys will come in and set the foundation and bring in a talented coordinator who can be “coach in waiting.” The “coach in waiting” nonsense turned out to be disaster even for Texas Longhorns.
The only way Jones
would look good on the Bruin sidelines is as the QB coach.
"Success is never final, Failure is never fatal. It's Courage that counts" - John Wooden.
How awesome was coach-in-waiting for West Virginia? Florida State?
Not meant to denigrate their current coaches, but that whole process created an unbelievable clusterf**k at both schools that made them national spectacles.
Don't forget UCLA
Donahue getting insecure over Rick (who was assumed to be OC in waiting) and hurriedly gave the key to Bob Toledo. Rest is history.
Ah yes, the young Rick of the 90s was a formidable candidate
with a full crop of hair, some fresh 90s white kicks and a blue/white/yellow Reebok windbreaker – talking to Aikman, ready to take on the NCAA world. That’s the Rick Neuheisel that I remember.
Dump Dan!
by bruinclassof10 on Dec 5, 2011 12:02 PM PST up reply actions
Happen, I mean
Dangers of typing and talking on the phone at the same time.
by Westwood Wizard on Dec 5, 2011 9:16 AM PST up reply actions
So...
what was making you happy as you were typing happen?
ding, ding, ding...
…we have a winner. But guerrero is too stupid to actually do anything about it. Didn’t want to sit across the table from someone smarter than him. So that means he needs to hire a 5th grader.
C'mon now
There are 5th graders out there who are smarter than Guerrero and could run the AD better than he. =)
Dump Dan!
by bruinclassof10 on Dec 5, 2011 9:40 AM PST up reply actions
I am a 5th grader
and I take extreme offense to your statement.
Wanna be our next AD?
Send your resume to Chancellor Block. I have no idea who you are but you’re already more qualified than Dan Guerrero.
Dump Dan!
by bruinclassof10 on Dec 5, 2011 10:05 PM PST up reply actions
Actually, I like your idea.
Let’s all float our resumes to Gene Block and include a letter why we think we would make a better AD than Guerror.
“I know I have no experience running a D1 Athletic program, but by all measures, neither does Dan Guerrero.”
Winning is not a sometime thing; it's an all the time thing. You don't win once in a while; you don't do things right once in a while; you do them right all the time. Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing. ~ Vince Lombardi
Considering Hand-Delivering It to Block
His receptionist and assistant(s) might be filters, as I’m sure he gets close to 500 e-mails a day. I get next Friday off, so I may just make the short drive to Westwood and drop off my resume and a nice cover letter.
Dump Dan!
by bruinclassof10 on Dec 6, 2011 10:40 AM PST up reply actions
I've been calling and I feel bad for the
poor receptionist. Block’s obliviousness and Guerrero’s incompetence are resulting in her fielding phone calls all morning long. At 8:30 am she sounded ready to call it a day. Dial up the pressure!
Dump Dan!
by bruinclassof10 on Dec 5, 2011 9:25 AM PST up reply actions
THIS RIGHT HERE...
We need to remove Flounder Guerrerror ASAP… let Wasserman and associates hire the next headcoach and deal directly with Block.
by beanandcheeseburrito on Dec 5, 2011 11:24 AM PST up reply actions
OT - honest question
I’m going to be in the Bay Area for New Years. If I bought a ticket to the Coachless Fight-Hunger Bowl, would any of that money find its way into Chanti Dan’s pockets? If so, I’ll have to rethink my day plans for the 31st.
Has to be a total boycott
Dodger fans spoke and MLB finally listened. Bruin fans and supporters need to follow that winning formula.
by wmm on Dec 5, 2011 9:20 AM PST up reply actions
I emailed Block. (as in "winning block")
I said to stop letting this guy embarrass all of UCLA. Hook him up with an expert group to advise him. And also I asked to get him to Weight Watchers. I mean this guy is the Poster Boy for why we all need to exercise. (JK on the WW thing).
really?
Phone: 310-825-2151
E-mail: chancellor@ucla.edu
Fax: 310-206-6030
U.S. mail address:
UCLA Chancellor’s Office
Box 951405, 2147 Murphy Hall
Los Angeles, CA 90095-1405
greg in denver, U.C.L.A. guy for life - BruinsNation.com
Hey, leave him alone.
He didn’t hear you the first time. It happens, connection was probably bad or something.
I have the Sons of Westwood on my iPod in my "favorites" playlist ...
http://sonsofwestwood.wordpress.com
Sarcasm, BTW.
I have the Sons of Westwood on my iPod in my "favorites" playlist ...
http://sonsofwestwood.wordpress.com
What is this about bad connections?
My pony never made it back out here. Sent one over to Denver ASAP, expect to hear back before February next year.
Dump Dan!
by bruinclassof10 on Dec 5, 2011 3:14 PM PST up reply actions
While I totally get and support the Dan G opposition(pleas fire him before we are
a nightly joke on the late night talk circuit), I disagree about June Jones. I am sorry, but he has rebuilt 2 programs, runs a dynamic offense, has one of the top recruiters in the nation on his staff, and does not fit the Terry Donahue model…not to mention he defeated TCU this year…
The issue with June Jones
Is that we are not going to be very excited and supportive of hiring someone who is in the twilight of his career when we could have had the real thing in Mike Leach. Chianti Dan is not going to come out and get by pimping Jones’ offense, when he was too arrogant to take a call from Leach.
I agree with your Leach take, but unfortunately, that cannot be undone...
By the way, Tracy this morning seems to be channelling his inner Nestor…
Well
The thought about going big is not just from yours truly, we have had numerous posts from all of our frontpagers making that point. See this post from Patroclus few days ago.
I fear the Peter Dalis effect....
We got stuck with Lavin and Toledo while Dalis was out sipping on his retirement mai tais. Guerrero is going to leave us with another unacceptable head football coach and a collossal mess for the next AD to clean up.
The only candidates who would possibly still be interested in taking the UCLA football job are those who know that no one other than Guerrero would even give them a sniff. No worthwhile coach is going to take this job knowing that a new AD is not far behind who will more than likely (and hopefully!) bring in his own head football coach.
And, knowing this gives these substandard coaching candidates ridiculous leverage – they can hold out for a richer contract since they know they will more than likely be fired before it ends and they know someone has to take the job so they may as well get paid for it.
What a tool Guerrero is
He acts like he was trying to “get” guys he had no intention or chance of getting, and then we’re supposed to be happy with DeWayne Walker or some other retread.
Ziiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnnnnngggggggggggggggg
Winning is not a sometime thing; it's an all the time thing. You don't win once in a while; you don't do things right once in a while; you do them right all the time. Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing. ~ Vince Lombardi
Here it is
The main UCLA Athletic Department phone number is (310) 825-8699.
greg in denver, U.C.L.A. guy for life - BruinsNation.com
Our athletic department is worse than All My Children
Same plot-line over and over for 20+ years
And we don’t even have Susan Lucci
Does anyone think we have a chance
to sign a Mullen? Or even a Fedora? Or is it pretty much guaranteed and set we’ll be getting a Mora Jr or Walker-type of coach?
My big worry now
As it seems to be many others around these parts, is that the somewhat public rejections from these candidates (most of whom he shouldnt’ve even approached in the first place) is going to be even more damaging to the job opening and the school. Better candidates are going to notice how poorly this search is going and assume that there has to be something fundamentally wrong in our athletic department for all the rejections to be happening, or if a Tier-2 candidate, use all of this as a tool to jockey for more cash.
I should clarify — their assumption would indeed be correct — there is some fundamental problems with our AD.
Exactly
and anyone with half a brain can see that DG is not on solid footing. And that needs to be shown more and more so that we break this cycle of mediocrity and get rid of the old way of doing things at UCLA.
But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.
Is there any scenario
in which UCLA could fire Dan Guerrero immediately and still be able to lure a top coach?
I feel like the odds would be in our favor to not have Dan Guerrero here. But who would hire the next HC? Block?
I would say yes
happens in corporate world all the time. Company struggles, stock drops. Company fires CEO and hires new leadership. Confidence is then restored – stock climbs.
I should be working right now...
I need to get me some of dem
UCLA stocks, before they triple in confidence and make me a millionaire of confidence
My Chanukkah wish list to end my nightmare (see Five Questions fan post).
Fire Chianti.
Make CRN interim AD.
Withdraw from the Kraft leftovers bowl. Send the message. We do no accept or celebrate mediocrity.
Charter a plane ride to the SEC and go hard after Mullen, Franklin, Smart or beyond to Fedora or Fitzgerald.
Repeat 1-2-3-4 until we get a tough, fricking coach in the mold of Red Sanders.
Make CRN interim AD?
You do realize he hired both Johnson and Tresey and wanted to hire Rocky Seto? And you do realize that he said he wanted to go to the bowl game? RN made NO good hires for coordinators when he was here, what makes anyone think he will make a better coach for HC?
I believe that
there were also financial constraints that Neuheisal had to deal with. That may have had something to do with his choice of coordinators.
Financial restraints are a part of the job of AD
RN either couldn’t get who he wanted or got people who were unacceptable. Either way, what makes anyone think that he could do a better job as AD? If he had financial constraints, he lost that battle, there is nothing that makes me believe changing his title to AD will change that.
He may have wanted Shannon. He didn’t get him. He settled with Tresey and stuck with him. If that is his version of compromising then forget it.
My response was not a defense of him as AD
No way. We are the top athletic school in the country and should be able to hand pick the next AD from anywhere.
Gene Blemaiyer
with Chancellor Charles E. Young. All-Star Administrative Team. Champions Will Be Made Here Once Again.
Dump Dan!
by bruinclassof10 on Dec 5, 2011 3:15 PM PST up reply actions
Understood, but he'd be 100x better as an interim and with up to $7m in coaches salaries,
Along with the cooperation of the big donors, I think he goes out and makes a big hire. For example, he wanted Randy Shannon for a DC and was forced into Seto, then Tresey, much lesser lights. The major point is that as long as DG is AD no one good will want to come. If CRN, a long time HC is the interim, that problem is gone.
Doesn’t have to be him, of course, but his interim would be the quickest and most seamless that I can think of.
What a disaster!
Were going to be stuck with a 2nd or 3rd tier coach, and I have a bad feeling were looking at 4 or 5 more years of complete irrelevance!
"Success is never final, Failure is never fatal. It's Courage that counts" - John Wooden.
From the begining
Fat Dan was n embarassment to UCLA-unprepared, unqualified, and totally inept. Please Chanellor Block, step-up and hit a home run by getting DG out of the park.
I'd be happy with
Mullen or Fedora. However, every “UCLA head coach” update I get usually ends with “…the candidate decided to reject the offer to go for greener pastures at [BLANK] University”.
When candidates say no to
living in So Cal, and playing games in the Rose Bowl? You know the AD sucks!
"Success is never final, Failure is never fatal. It's Courage that counts" - John Wooden.
It took Dan well into jan to hire rn after he fired kd.. I think we will be waiting longer than we think..
by Big Bully on Dec 5, 2011 10:34 AM PST via mobile reply actions
Which is worrying
since we need to lock up as many recruits ASAP.
Liking the idea of Mullen 2012 more and more
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Russell_Sanders
Read about the kind of coach we need to hire. A heart attack took him from the world after only 9 years as HC. His record vs SC? 6 and 3.
I can understand wanting a spirited coach
but the problem with remembering Red Sanders and his powder-keg blue teams in such a rosy light is that you forget his recruitment practices that helped to destroy the PCC. I would think you would not want a crook for a head coach.
I hope you guys get someone that will as the very least satisfy you, but don’t stoop so low. You’ll probably find just who you need and be back to better times in a year or two.
"Our hearts shall sing and our voices ring for the dear old Blue and Gold!"
by Joe Bandsmen on Dec 5, 2011 11:58 AM PST up reply actions
I think we're wrong on the amount The Donut gets paid to do nothing.
I’ve been re-reading the breakdown of Guerror’s salary. (HT to scotucla03)
And i believe it goes like this:
$465,000 Base Salary
$ 75,000 Some wierdly named bonus
$750,000 Retention Bonus
Which brings his annual salary up to: 1,290,000 a year to do nothing!
Someone please follow the link and tell me I’m in way over my head. Please tell me we are not paying Nero 1.25 Million to sit on his ass and tell him self how wonderful he is:
During his six years of service as Director of Intercollegiate Athletics at UCLA, Daniel G. Guerrero has become one of the leading athletic directors in the NCAA, deeply respected by his colleagues nationally, in the PAC-10, and by the administration of the NCAA at the highest level. He continues to serve as chief steward of one of the finest overall programs in the country where success is defined in terms of breadth of athletic achievement and academic/athletic balance, watchwords of the University’s historic approach, as demonstrated in PAC-10 and NCAA activities.
Winning is not a sometime thing; it's an all the time thing. You don't win once in a while; you don't do things right once in a while; you do them right all the time. Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing. ~ Vince Lombardi
The bonus kicks in if he makes it to Apr. 2013, not a per year thing.
Provides for a retention bonus of $750,000 payable at the end of the fifth year of the contract if Director Guerrero completes the five full years of service of the contract. None of this bonus will vest on an interim basis, unless Director Guerrero is terminated without cause by the University, in which case it will vest at the rate of $150,000 per year of his service as Director (or pro-rated accordingly).
by Kenneth Powers on Dec 5, 2011 10:41 AM PST up reply actions
God Almighty
This whole thing is getting SO bad. It makes me SICK that this could degenerate to this level. It really scares me who we MIGHT wind up with if Chianti Dan isn’t axed in the next day or two.
I’ve written Chancellor Block and would gladly call but I doubt if a non-UCLA alum would have much pull here.
I do know this (and I HATE the idea of advocating anyone to get axed); Chianti Dan needs to be gone – NOW!
Los Angeles Rams and the UCLA Bruins!!!!!
by Minnesota Bruinfan on Dec 5, 2011 10:54 AM PST reply actions
Technically, UCLA has yet to go after a big time coach
UCLA is reportedly offering $4M for a HC (and could go higher) and $3M for coaches. UCLA is also going to upgrade facilities and make commitment to treating football as the main priority within the AD.
Taking a step back from all this mess, I’ve come to the conclusion that UCLA isn’t really going after the top coaches.
Even Petersen was a gamble when you look at what BSU coaches have done when they go to the big time programs. It’s probably the main thing keeping him at BSU.
With what UCLA is offering, we should be going after Pellini, Bielema, Mike Gundy, Dantonio and Art Briles. Instead we’ll get Tom Cable, Belloti and Walker.
I can’t even point to not having fired Rick after UofA anymore. It’s bigger than that, it’s about not firing Dan Guerrero after UofA. It’s about allowing an incompetent leader to take UCLA to new lows.
That's the thing
From what I have heard Pellini is not have the greatest of time in Lincoln. The dude is always stressed out and under immense pressure. If he came to UCLA, installed a defense with the mindset of “blackshirts” and won 8-10 games in first season and replicated it, he’d be set.
If the right pitch is made to him, UCLA should be able to make a great case to him. Instead we are going after washed up coaches who haven’t been around the game for years.
Pelini is another guy that should be on our radar
He’d make our teams mentally tougher although he should learn a thing or two from Rick and learn to berate his QB’s inside the locker room, not on national television where dozens of Simers types would have a field day.
Dump Dan!
by bruinclassof10 on Dec 5, 2011 11:02 AM PST up reply actions
Pelini going to FAU as of today 12/5/11.
The FAU Board of Trustees approved Monday morning a five-year, $2.49-million deal for Pelini, who will start with a base salary of $450,000 with a 5 percent increase each January through 2016.
$3M for assistants
He could pick and choose the best freakin staff with that type of money. It’s crazy for UCLA to immediately go to 3rd tier options after Petersen who is arguably a lower level 1st tier since he’s so unwilling to leave for a major program.
Now we are talking... You all know how Class of 66 & myself think of Wisconsin
Let’s have a mega$$$$ deal, hire both The Wisconsin AD & the coach, Barry Alvarez & Brett Bielema together.
just my opinion, but I think Alvarez and Bielema are firmly entrenched at Wisconsin.
Why would they want to leave something they built together to join to our little dysfunctional family?
Winning is not a sometime thing; it's an all the time thing. You don't win once in a while; you don't do things right once in a while; you do them right all the time. Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing. ~ Vince Lombardi
much like I said about Patterson last week.
by Kenneth Powers on Dec 5, 2011 1:11 PM PST up reply actions
You're not one of those 'always has to be right' types, are you?
While the parallel is obvious, I would never suggest we not call one or the other. Which, in my opinion, is our difference. I said call Patterson any ways. I respect Alvarez/Bielema a great deal I would love to have one or the other. While I don’t think we’ll get them to leave, I would never consider it a waste of a phone call.
Winning is not a sometime thing; it's an all the time thing. You don't win once in a while; you don't do things right once in a while; you do them right all the time. Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing. ~ Vince Lombardi
According to BRO, we did make back-channel overtures to Patterson
which were rebuffed.
by Kenneth Powers on Dec 6, 2011 8:47 AM PST up reply actions
NO to Pelini!
I think Pelini is way overrated. He is not a Tier 1 candidate IMO, and I would rather take a young guy than take him. Their collapse the year before that ended in a blowout to the Sarkskies was awful, and this year they should’ve done better than they did.
They didn't offer anyone $4M nor $3M for staff...
they blew the Petersen deal because they tried to save money on assistants and balked at his counter that required more $$$ for assistants.
Flounder blew the deal… and I suspect… INTENTIONALLY
by beanandcheeseburrito on Dec 5, 2011 11:21 AM PST up reply actions
How sure are you of this?
The reason I ask is because I’ve read rumors stating that UCLA did go up to $3M for assistants with Petersen. It sounded like it was really not about the money with him but more of a lifestyle choice where he didn’t want to move to LA. Also, that UNC has a good shot at him because of the small town atmosphere.
Not saying you aren’t correct…just trying to get a better understanding of what took place with him.
The whole "lifestyle" angle is an excuse...
to cover their own asses. How the Moron Center wants to play this is “We offered him everything that he wanted but he is unreasonable and hates LA”.
It is false… they were shocked that the Petersen camp countered their initial offer and they balked.
The Moron Center will try to spin everything so it seems like they are doing their job and most of these fan sites get their information directly from the Moron Center. I am telling you want is circling in the sports law and management community.
by beanandcheeseburrito on Dec 5, 2011 11:42 AM PST up reply actions
This is simply wrong from all reports
Money was not the issue and won’t be in this search. The issue was knowing our chances with Petersen and having contingency plans in place.
Money is an issue in this search...
because he has the athletic department $30M in the hole from his disasterous pauley fundraising shortfall.
We can bet on it if you like… We’ll spend within $1M of what we were currently spending on Neu and his staff.
by beanandcheeseburrito on Dec 5, 2011 11:49 AM PST up reply actions
ps.
there is a reason why flounder is now scrambling to sell naming rights to the new pauley pavillion after completely eliminating it as a possibility earlier in the process.
by beanandcheeseburrito on Dec 5, 2011 11:51 AM PST up reply actions
Is Chancellor Block aware of all of this?
or does he simply play the fiddle while watching Westwood burn? I’ve called, e-mailed and written but a part of me thinks that he puts his fingers in his ears and shouts “I can’t hear you! na na na na” when his receptionist gives him the daily, ir not hourly breakdown on our discontent.
Dump Dan!
by bruinclassof10 on Dec 5, 2011 11:52 AM PST up reply actions
I called today.
She knew with out asking why I was calling. The calls and emails are non stop according to her.
But, still no action from Gene Block . . .
Winning is not a sometime thing; it's an all the time thing. You don't win once in a while; you don't do things right once in a while; you do them right all the time. Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing. ~ Vince Lombardi
I think she recognizes my voice by now too
And she already knows what I’m going to say. If Block really just brushes his shoulders and ignores thousands of calls, emails and letters, then he must go as well. When he first took office, I was an undergrad and he was open to all of the students and actually responded to e-mails and held office hours to hear opinions. Nowadays, he might be lying underneath his desk in the fetal position trying to make it all go away. Its either that or he’s playing the fiddle in his half-Stanford, half-Oregon sweatshirt.
Dump Dan!
by bruinclassof10 on Dec 5, 2011 12:48 PM PST up reply actions
Hey gang -
One quick note. This is a volatile time for all UCLA alums and there is really no need to take shots at other Bruin communities. That doesn’t help anyone.
My apologies
The thought of Mora being hired because DG is DG, really grinds my gears.
Dump Dan!
by bruinclassof10 on Dec 5, 2011 11:03 AM PST up reply actions
Kind of ironic....
That we try to be civil to fellow Bruins when a former Bruin is ripping our athletic programs to shreds. Guess BN has more class as DG doesn’t give a s$&t about us.
That was awesome
Showed it to my coworkers, one who is a Boise State fan and another who is a UW alumni and they were laughing their asses off as well, although I had to explain the basketball stuff at the end to them
Genius,I am jealous.
I would love to dub into the movie Broadcast News. Especially in that scene where they yell, “I am as mad as hell and I’m not going to take it anymore.”
BYU's Jake Heaps is transferring
Dude was a 5-star and the top QB in the HS class of 2010. He’s from Washington state, so it wouldn’t surprise me to see him end up in the Pac-12.
I'm sure UW will be looking at him as well.
He’s from just outside Seattle.
by Kenneth Powers on Dec 5, 2011 11:15 AM PST up reply actions
Interesting note on Crist.
He’ll be able to play right away.
Crist is scheduled to graduate later this month and will have one year of eligibility remaining since he did not play his first year at Notre Dame. He can transfer to another school and play immediately so long as he enrolls in a graduate program that Notre Dame does not offer, per NCAA rules.
by Kenneth Powers on Dec 5, 2011 11:16 AM PST up reply actions
1-Year Stopgap Before the Hundley Era?
QB depth is always a good thing and the Russell WIlson project worked out for Wisconsin. Crist is no slouch and maybe a move back to Socal will do him good while we transition Hundley in throughout the year. Worst case scenario: he holds a clipboard and talks Socal recruits out of moving to South Bend. Best case scenario: who knows?
Dump Dan!
by bruinclassof10 on Dec 5, 2011 11:20 AM PST up reply actions
That's one way to have Hundley transfer out of here
He has been loyal to UCLA and watched far inferior talent on the field. Further I am sure he has endured taunts and temptations to transfer – but he didn’t. Time to give him the reigns.
I do agree Hundley = the future
I just have nightmares that he’ll be UCLA’s version of David Carr. I was never a fan of baptizing a QB by fire but with the right HC, it could work beautifully like Chizik/Newton
Dump Dan!
by bruinclassof10 on Dec 5, 2011 11:35 AM PST up reply actions
Newton is a tough comparison given that he was a junior.
But I’d like to see Hundley win the starting job next year unless Prince or Brehaut turn into Drew Olson circa 2005.
by Kenneth Powers on Dec 5, 2011 11:37 AM PST up reply actions
Hopefully Hundley = RGIII
Art Briles anyone?
Dump Dan!
by bruinclassof10 on Dec 5, 2011 11:46 AM PST up reply actions
I like Briles
and our team fits his style. He can recruit in Texas, he can recruit anywhere.
Briles is one of my top choices
Only problem is trying to get him out of Texas. He’s born and raised there and it doesn’t look like he’s left the state of Texas during his coaching career.
Wow, you are not kidding
I knew Briles from Houston and Texas Tech, but from his resume it looks like the only time he has stepped foot outside of Texas is away games.
Has there been any word
on Mullen, Fedora, or Briles being remotely interested in leaving their current programs?
Some reports/rumors
have Mullen very interested in UCLA.
It might be very tough to get Briles out of Texas. He was born in texas…is a Tech alum and has coaches in Texas his entire career (HS to College).
Imagine that!
A 2nd HC falling into DG’s lap. Does this warrant another raise?
Dump Dan!
by bruinclassof10 on Dec 5, 2011 12:03 PM PST up reply actions
Reality check
No one could have thought that Golden was going to leave the U for UCLA.
Dream contract that carries through any sanctions, strong boosters, fertile recruiting bed and coral gables doesn’t suck.
Wasn’t going to happen but shows how little our AD knows about what is going on.
Agree, we're 2-4 years too late to get Golden.
He was my top choice.
Is it just me, or does this seem to be a linear process?
Why is it that we are “talking to” (before being rejected by) X, then Y, then Z. Is there any harm in interviewing multiple candidates at the same time? Maybe I’m just out of the loop, and that ’s already happening, but when these guys have interest from multiple parties, we should be going after them in parallel. At the very least, it might prevent these very public rejections.
It's wierd
Last time around, I seem to recall Harbaugh, Golden and others being “in the mix” at the same time – or at least that was what was projected). With this very same CD at the helm, no less. I guess he’s getting more incompetent as the years go by.
seems like he just kept the list from 4 years ago
and figured he’d go after that list this time, smh
I swear my biggest fear with Chianti Dan is that we’ll end up interviewing Mike Johnson, Tom Cable and Dewayne Walker
It is not an unfounded fear...
frankly, I believe that is the MOST PROBABLE OUTCOME of this coaching search… Johnson, Cable and Walker will be the finalists.
by beanandcheeseburrito on Dec 5, 2011 11:44 AM PST up reply actions
And $4M allocated to the HC
because Johnson is an up and comer and is familiar with the UCLA tradition, Cable is also familiar with the UCLA tradition and Walker is familiar with the UCLA tradition. If this happens, DG deserves to be tarred/feathered!
Dump Dan!
by bruinclassof10 on Dec 5, 2011 11:49 AM PST up reply actions
I'll chain myself to the front door at the Morgan Center
until they fire Dan Guerrero if this happens.
Right there with ya King
singing “Kumbaya” and “We shall not, we shall not be moved.” How much would a banner that says DUMP DAN cost? Maybe one of those in front of the Morgan Center and an LAT feature (yes, times are that bad) would make some waves in the LA area
Dump Dan!
by bruinclassof10 on Dec 5, 2011 12:07 PM PST up reply actions
You are correct
John Harbaugh, Golden and if IIRC, Hoke were all names that came up and all of them have had their share of success. The fact that he hired a firm and eventually picked the prodigal son due to alumni pressure, speaks volumes about his creativity and prowess.
Dump Dan!
by bruinclassof10 on Dec 5, 2011 11:33 AM PST up reply actions
Good thought.
Look how the new Boston Red Sox GM handled interviews for their new manager position.
Guerrero's days are numbered the longer this drags on.
Goodbye, go back to Irvine.
By the way, I just called the chancellor's office too.
The receptionist was nice, professional.
Does the "D" in "A.D."
stand for “Ditherer?” Just sayin’
The Mad Bruin
Mora -- buddy of Donahue -- supposedly next on the list!
Time for another poll!
Is that official?
Where’s the info coming out of?
Anyway we can contact
Dan Mullen directly and try to convince him that DG is not the true representative of UCLA, and that we, (the Alumni, Fans, Students, and Parents of UCLA) are, and would like to personally ask him to be the next HC of UCLA?
That'd be hilarious but also look very, very bad in the long run if DG is allowed to stay
“Hey, we, the people of Bruins Nation are smarter than our AD and we know you’re a better candidate than the others that he’s gone after so please come to Westwood. BTW that aforementioned moron AD…he’s going to be your boss.”
Dump Dan!
by bruinclassof10 on Dec 5, 2011 12:28 PM PST up reply actions
Please fill me in...
on the seemingly strong objections to Mora Jr. I seriously doubt that Cable or Walker are really being considered. Carroll was SC’s 4th choice at the time and he worked out pretty well…except for the cheating part…but that was SUC’s culture with Mike Garrett as AD. What is the main issue for everyone here in regards to Mora Jr.?
Another NFL reject with no college resume.
I think people see Pete Carroll and just assume you can just plug in any NFL guy and get results, but Carroll’s the exception to the rule. For one, the NFL is a much different ballgame than college and requires no recruiting.
Ask Chan Gailey, Mike Sherman, Bill Callahan, and Dave Wannstedt how easy the transition is.
by Kenneth Powers on Dec 5, 2011 1:08 PM PST up reply actions
Not to mention
Ask yourself if Carroll would have done as well without Norm Chow. With the right personnel, Chow can do quite well. Carroll would have taken care of the defense regardless, but imagine if he had an OC who didn’t pan out…
But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.
As a Seahawks fan...
Mora was a trainwreck who has no clue who to game plan and adjust during games.
Worst part was he would throw his players under the bus in interviews after…
He got fired after one season, and has not been offered a job since should say something about his abilities.
Has anyone
Written a post on acceptable coaching candidates yet? I feel like, if Dirty Dan reads BN, he doesn’t read the comments and FanPosts. We have been explicit about guys we don’t want, but what about guys we want? Can we shoo him in the right direction by putting, on the front page, a list of coaching candidates we want to see? (i.e. a “Top 10”) I feel like he’s so blind that we need to grab him by the ear and pull him in the correct direction as explicitly as possible.
I have the Sons of Westwood on my iPod in my "favorites" playlist ...
http://sonsofwestwood.wordpress.com
Or to make it so blatant
A huge picture with Manny Diaz on one side and Dan Mullen on the other. Choice A. Choice B. There is no Choice C. Pick One, Dan.
Dump Dan!
by bruinclassof10 on Dec 5, 2011 3:18 PM PST up reply actions
Really guys?
We’re going to rely on Dan to make solid judgment on who fits that criteria? Are you absolutely sure about this? I mean, if you guys say so, but …
I have the Sons of Westwood on my iPod in my "favorites" playlist ...
http://sonsofwestwood.wordpress.com
Rely on Chianti Dan?
Uh. No. The point is that we’re not married to any one candidate, and those criteria are how we are going to judge the names bandied about in the media and by Chianti Dan.
But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.
courtesy of Dan fucking Guerrero
A decade of being lit up by wazzu, zona, UW, USC and Oregon. Thanks a lot fucker. And because of the new tv deal, we can watch every painful moment.
by Strathmore&Gayley on Dec 5, 2011 3:55 PM PST via iPhone app reply actions
PLEASE explain Dan Mullen to me
I’m really not sure why a coach that went 6-6 this year, with wins over:
Memphis 2-10
Louisiana Tech 8-4
UAB 3-9
Kentucky 5-7
Tennessee Martin 5-6
Ole Miss 2-10
should even be considered as a candidate for coach for UCLA. Yes, Mississippi State went 9-4 last year. But Manny Diaz was their Defensive Coordinator in 2010 and left for Texas this year, another person people are calling out as a potential candidate.
Dan Mullen with Manny Diaz – 9-4 (2010)
Dan Mullen without Manny Diaz – 11-13 (6-6 this year, 5-7 in 2009).
So why is Dan Mullen so great?
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