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UCLA Coaching Hot Stove: NY Times Highlights BruinsNation's All Out Pressure on Chianti Dan

None other than the New York Times has weighed in on the progress -- or lack thereof -- of Chianti Dan's coaching "search." The Grand Old Lady also noted the pressure this blog continues to bring to bear on UCLA's sommelier:

A bit further west, at U.C.L.A., another coaching search appears to be stuck in neutral. Rick Neuheisel was fired in the wake of losing 50-0 to cross-town rival U.S.C. in the last game of the year. Neuheisel had coached the Bruins for four seasons, with a 21-28 record. What did him in was an 0-4 record against U.S.C. and the blowout losses.

then:

The next target is Jim Mora Jr., who has interviewed, but there is no offer yet on the table. Bloggers, such as Bruins Nation, are lambasting the pace, and lack of results, by Guerrero and U.C.L.A.

The important thing to note -- along with the classy periods between U-C-L-A that only the New York Times and our own gbruin use -- is that the pressure this community continues to bring to the process is being noticed on a national scale. Our voiced are being heard. Don't let up.

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Nice!!

Thanks to all the moderators here. National attention now, let’s get this going!!!!

by TheStick on Dec 8, 2011 11:24 AM PST reply actions  

Wish they would have said "lambasting the idea of Mora" too...

…but at least they said that an offer wasn’t on the table. That’s a positive, if true, I can get behind…but strike the “yet” part…

by Hope4Change on Dec 8, 2011 11:26 AM PST reply actions  

Agree

That should have been emphasized. It’s not just the pace and results, but the ridiculous retread names that are being thrown out there.

by Cade McAdverb on Dec 8, 2011 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

"WHY IS SGT NELSON HOLDING THAT GUN!"

I have the Sons of Westwood on my iPod in my "favorites" playlist ...

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by johnvely on Dec 8, 2011 12:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Coaching Follies

Our Athletic Disaster continues to amaze by his level of incompetence and lack of comprehension. He is, and always will be, unprepared.

At this point it would be better to let our OC coach the bowl game and next year, while we see what “good” coaches become available after another lost season.

There are no worthy candidates to consider, unless and NFL team fires a good coach in the next few weeks with solid college ties….

by bruin truth on Dec 8, 2011 11:48 AM PST reply actions  

I'm starting to wonder

if this isn’t the best option, considering what we’re left with now. No top tier coaches left, it seems, and that’s the only type of coach we should be considering.

by daggy on Dec 8, 2011 12:00 PM PST up reply actions  

this is a terrible idea

you guys are too beaten down by Chianti Dan’s incompetence, you are willing to go for any bad idea. It’s really sad.

by Odysseus on Dec 8, 2011 12:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Misery

forever loves company..!

by daggy on Dec 8, 2011 12:08 PM PST up reply actions  

What's scary is...

…I really think that is Dan’s plan (as much as Dan has actually formulated a plan). After the ’SC debacle, I think he planned on letting Rick coach the Pac-12 title game and hoped he could win that and justify (in his own chianti-soaked mind) bringing him back next season. And now I think he is hoping the Bruins win the bowl game so he can justify (again, to himself) hiring Johnson to be the head coach. What a train wreck this is.

by McNown to Farmer on Dec 8, 2011 3:31 PM PST up reply actions  

This Dude is pathetic

Fucking DG, “no stone unturned”, “extensive search”, “proud to call our own”. This guy is spinning the truth and reality. Who does he think he is fooling? This guy is completely over his head on this job. Fire this guy now! Don’t let him hire the next football coach.

by cyberdbk on Dec 8, 2011 11:51 AM PST reply actions  

All buzzwords for...
"no stone unturned", "extensive search", "proud to call our own".

in other words expect me to “delay”…“obfuscate”…“vacillate”…

by GemCityBruin on Dec 8, 2011 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

"Delay"..."obfuscate"...."Vacillate"

= I’m sitting on my ass until the people I trust, hand deliver me a candidate that I can undermine. Meanwhile, I’ll be booking my flight to Italy and watching a Broadway musical.

Dump Dan!

by bruinclassof10 on Dec 8, 2011 6:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Only reason I agree with hiring Mora

is if guerrerror quits at the press conference and then they turn right around and fire Mora.

by PUSC on Dec 8, 2011 11:51 AM PST reply actions  

Following up on the last thread.

Briles and Mullen are great options! I did vote yes for Tressel in spite of the ignominious ending at OSU. He is a proven winner and I believe in second opportunities. Hopefully it was a lesson learned.

by uclabruinn on Dec 8, 2011 12:01 PM PST reply actions  

Lol

You had to bring the Tressel talk with you, didn’t you?

I have the Sons of Westwood on my iPod in my "favorites" playlist ...

http://sonsofwestwood.wordpress.com

by johnvely on Dec 8, 2011 12:08 PM PST up reply actions  

+239

I have the Sons of Westwood on my iPod in my "favorites" playlist ...

http://sonsofwestwood.wordpress.com

by johnvely on Dec 8, 2011 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

how do you feel about 3rd opportunities?

Youngstown State, Ohio State, UCLA?
No thanks.

by VeniceBruin on Dec 8, 2011 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Following up on the last thread

We are seriously awesome, you guys.

I have the Sons of Westwood on my iPod in my "favorites" playlist ...

http://sonsofwestwood.wordpress.com

by johnvely on Dec 8, 2011 12:13 PM PST reply actions  

Team Leadership

My family and friends have been long time Bruin fans. We don’t have the insight or inside information that the BN bloggers have. We just plainly love all things UCLA. In my world there is always someone that takes the lead. We don’t wait with our thumbs up our arse and wait for someone to step up.

What is going on with the Football and Basketball teams? Am I missing something or does it seem like there are no leaders on those teams? Those of you who played sports know that on a successful team there is always one or two players that demand accountability and the rest of the team follows. Anyone that is in it for themselves is gone, or on the bench, as dictated by the team consensus.

Now combine the lack of team leaders with inept coaches and executive managers, and we are hopelessy relegated to the irrevelent.

At this time UCLA needs Professional coaches who will stand up to the DGs and Blocks of the world. The HCs need the self assurance that allows the team to discipline itself both during the season and off season.

CRN and Howland call them kids. I don’t buy it. We have 18 year old soldiers fighting overseas for our freedom. Grow up Nelson and Smith or ship out!

by BornBruin on Dec 8, 2011 12:22 PM PST reply actions  

I say we all find Art Briles' e-mail address

And just bombard him with pleas to come coach here. Take the reigns from Dan and do the work ourselves. From that NYT quote up top, it looks like it’s already happening anyway.

by ucla139 on Dec 8, 2011 12:26 PM PST reply actions  

ESPN hires idiots

A bit random and off topic, but this is from a PAC 12 chat with Ted Miller:

The NCAA sanctions against USC are the greatest injustice in NCAA history and EVERYBODY with a brain agrees. But there’s nothing outside of a lawsuit that USC or anyone else can do now.

by NorCalBruin on Dec 8, 2011 12:29 PM PST reply actions  

Miller

He gets paid to shill for the Trojans.

by Nestor on Dec 8, 2011 12:30 PM PST up reply actions  

GREATEST INJUSTICE IN NCAA HISTORY!

I would say the NCAA is the greatest injustice in NCAA history.

I have the Sons of Westwood on my iPod in my "favorites" playlist ...

http://sonsofwestwood.wordpress.com

by johnvely on Dec 8, 2011 12:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Also, ESPN.

I have the Sons of Westwood on my iPod in my "favorites" playlist ...

http://sonsofwestwood.wordpress.com

by johnvely on Dec 8, 2011 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

That's just purely objective reporting. Much like the objective reporting of BSPN and Craig James about Leach.

Which is why I don’t read the drivel they say and why I don’t have the sound on when I watch games on BSPN.

by Fox 71 on Dec 8, 2011 12:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I approve of this

greg in denver, U.C.L.A. guy for life - BruinsNation.com

by gbruin on Dec 8, 2011 3:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I get sick and tired of explaining this to all the trogans I work with.

U$C deserved precisely what they got.

That established, I will conceed that Ohio State deserves worse. Miami deserves worse than that. Penn State shouldn’t have an athletic department anymore (and if it were up to me, the university would be dissolved as an entity as well.)

Just because someone else does something worse than you, doesn’t mean you didn’t deserve your own punishment.

by BruinMW on Dec 8, 2011 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Penn State should be acquired by National University

And then see what it’s like to get screwed over involuntarily.

I have the Sons of Westwood on my iPod in my "favorites" playlist ...

http://sonsofwestwood.wordpress.com

by johnvely on Dec 8, 2011 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Here is what I am resigned to........

First, I am pretty sure that we are going to hire Mora, Jr. Where their is smoke there is fire, and I believe this is gonna happen. After listening to the radio all day, the name that keeps coming up from each and every “supposed” expert is Mora, Jr. DUMBASS DAN has been quiet, and so I am sure that Mora, Jr. is our guy. The hire does not inspire the masses, and it surely does not inspire me. I am like a beaten dog who is just so down on the whole process and those making the decisions that I don’t even give a crap anymore. I am a beaten man. Heck, hire Tressel, Donahue……hell, hire Paul Hackett right now. I am so down on our program and for us not interviewing guys like Mullen and Leach that I am just beaten down. Hopefully you guys will pick me up in the future, but as of now I am close to checking out.

They will hire Mora, and I will try to support him but find it hard. I hope they don’t force Tressel on him. If they want Tressel, which I don’t think is a bad thing (yeah I know that which catch some heat….but so be it) they should just hire him for the head gig or no gig at all.

I am also resigned to the fact that Leach is gonna be a monster at WSU, and that Mullen will get a head job somewhere other than MSU in the future and we will regret the day we did not get one of them. I have touted Leach since day 1, and Mullen has been my choice since Leach was gone. So be it. DUMBASS DAN is an idiot and won’t even look their way.

Good Luck Coach Mora…………you will need it because obviously nothing has changed in our athletic department except for the amount of money they are going to pay a coach. I am a beaten man in regards to all this……..somebody please tell me why I should have hope with DUMBASS DAN in charge?

by muircoach on Dec 8, 2011 1:06 PM PST reply actions  

From what we are hearing

Chianti Dan has gone rogue. He is essentially trying to do this hiring his way and potentially thumbing his noses at boosters. If Mora lobbies himself into this job, he will be a Chianti Dan special – with no support from the boosters at all.

by Nestor on Dec 8, 2011 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Sick to my stomach

Is DG trying to destory UCLA athletics?!? Why wouldn’t he listen to the boosters?

by NorCalBruin on Dec 8, 2011 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

If true....

…and I don’t doubt it at all when DG is involved….why don’t the boosters pull their donations and further shortfall the Pauley Pavillion Renovations? Even at $700k per year…DG can’t pay for them.

by tazmiami on Dec 8, 2011 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Guerrero

He can make retread hires without the donations of boosters. What will be interesting to see whether the big money support will be there. Guerrero is basically taking advantage of Pac-12 new money by making terrible decisions (that are independent of booster donations), and he is also trying to make up for less than expected return on Pauley fundraising by selling the naming rights. It is ugly from all directions.

by Nestor on Dec 8, 2011 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Nestor, Quick Question

If what you’re saying is true, how can Guerrero not be fired? Whether or not the Chancellor cares about athletics, Guerrero is doing a horrible job and screwing up everything he touches. Does no one in a position of authority see this?

by NorCalBruin on Dec 8, 2011 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

From what I hear

The Chancellor is certainly aware of the situation and that he is not very happy about UCLA being embarrassed on a national stage. This could be Guerrero’s “last shot” but if the hoops team continue to implode and we don’t have a big season in football next year, it will get uglier.

The Chancellor is certainly aware of the overwhelming outrage coming from Bruin alums (many of them specifically organized in this community) and Guerrero is in precarious position.

If Mora is the guy, we will give him a chance, but we doubt the fanbase will get fired up no matter how much he strikes the right note during press conference (I fully expect Mora to serve up BS like how he has “grown up admiring Wooden”).

by Nestor on Dec 8, 2011 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Unfortunately

Things aren’t that simple, and aren’t that black and white when it comes to office politicking.

DG, the dunce that he is and the mess that he has made at UCLA, has friends in the NCAA and he has friends at UCLA. And when that’s the case, sometimes it’s hard for those in charge to see things the way fans see them.

Those in charge always believe that they know more than the fans. I’m sure the chancellor is aware of fan discontent with Guerrero, as are many other top brass, but it’s easy for them to dismiss.

Unfortunately, they figure that they know more than we do. They feel that the fans “don’t get it” regarding what’s going on inside the department.

And it’s very very tough to break that wall down.

by TomahawkRed on Dec 8, 2011 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh it is definitely a challenge to get over that wall

However, it is not impossible like it was during days predating the internets. I do distinguish a little between “fans” and “alums.” The relationship between “alums” and school is extremely powerful and poignant. When the Chancellor gets signals that those relationships are in danger, things can move. Those signs have been sent in recent days and I doubt a Mora hire will do anything to repair the damages, unless he wins the Pac-12 South and win 9 or more games next season.

by Nestor on Dec 8, 2011 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Agree...

…I know a family that had seasons tickets on Bruin Bench for more than 30 years and they gave them back this year. I am sure they are not alone.
Mora is going have to have 10 win seasons and beat $C – otherwise what incentive is there for alums to contribute?

by tazmiami on Dec 8, 2011 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Have had season seats for 18 years...

…and if Mora is hired we are giving them up.

by seernst on Dec 8, 2011 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

My question is, why is DG being so stubborn?

He’s been a company man this whole time, doing what he’s told, from the day he hired Karl Dorrel. Why go rogue now, when everyone is at the end of their rope, and only an absolute homerun hire would result in any kind excitement for the Rose Bowl, and any chance at saving this program from another generation of complete obscurity?

I understand being incompetent and knowing nothing about football. I don’t understand total resistance to having his ass saved.

by bluebland on Dec 8, 2011 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

From what we can connect ...

This is all about a power struggle. If Guerrero gets Mora, he “wins” … for the time being. If UCLA ends up going another direction besides Mora (and Tressel) … there may be hope after all.

by Nestor on Dec 8, 2011 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Well...

….maybe during his power struggle DG will make some dirt leading to NCAA sanctions. Although that stinks, most programs get a house cleaning when the NCAA slaps them and DG would be gone along with his retread coaches. The programs tend to be better on the other side.

UCLA doesn’t need the black eye – but we have one anyway from this mess.

by tazmiami on Dec 8, 2011 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Sorry N...

No support or “chance” for Mora…no re-tread, reject, NFL failures.

Everytime I will hear his name associated with U.C.L.A. I’ll be going “Frau Blücher” on him.

by GemCityBruin on Dec 8, 2011 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Absolutely

We are not going to implore anyone to get behind Mora. If Mora doesn’t get unified support and the Bruins have an apathetic, disgruntled fan base, it will be all on Chianti Dan.

by Nestor on Dec 8, 2011 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Knowing Voldemort (my new name for that whom shall not be named)

the main reason he is doing it is to save money since mora is still on the seahawks payroll. That frees up money to put into the pauley renovation. He’s such a turd!

by bruin578 on Dec 8, 2011 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

The last time Los Angeles got someone for "free"

Was Manny Ramirez, and we all know how that worked out.

by ucla717274 on Dec 8, 2011 1:28 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Pauley Renovation

is the primary reason why I don’t see any new football specific facilities being built anytime soon. He’s completely screwed that project up and is going to use all or most of the TV money on that project.

Go Bruins!

by King J77 on Dec 8, 2011 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm with you muircoach

If Mora Jr is the guy I’ll cancel my season tickets. I’m not on a donor level but hell I’ll save the money that would have gone towards my tickets and promise to buy back in and donate the rest to UCLA if they get can fix their problems (fire Chianti and hires a top HC).

Go Bruins!

by King J77 on Dec 8, 2011 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

You need to cancel the season tickets now, and explain why.

Even if Chianti Dan hires someone other than Mora, it does not change the fact that he’s far worse as an athletic director than CTS or Neuheisel were as coaches. We need to cut off the flow of funds until UCLA gets rid of this disaster.

by Fox 71 on Dec 8, 2011 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

It looks like

We are either going to hire a proven cheater in Tressel or a failure in Mora. I can’t believe it’s come down to this in picking a coach.

by CheekyBruin on Dec 8, 2011 1:32 PM PST reply actions  

Nothing but speculation

regarding Tressel. Mora on the other hand…..

by NorCalBruin on Dec 8, 2011 1:35 PM PST reply actions  

I guess we should try to remember Guerrero is human.

He isn’t an extremely nice person, like Neuheisel. Nor does he love UCLA, like the guy he fired. Nor is he loved and respected by UCLA athletes, like the guy whose heart he broke.

But watching Neuheisel after the last practice made me very sad. And as angry as I had been at some of Neuheisel’s decisions, I was reminded that day that all these guys are human.

by Seth Chandler on Dec 8, 2011 2:14 PM PST reply actions  

I don't think DG is human

He’s like some senile, narcissistic teddy bear hellbent on doing things his way or no way.

I have the Sons of Westwood on my iPod in my "favorites" playlist ...

http://sonsofwestwood.wordpress.com

by johnvely on Dec 8, 2011 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

We still have hope!!!

apparently the boosters are against Mora and are standing up to Voldemort!

by bruin578 on Dec 8, 2011 2:18 PM PST reply actions  

UCLA athletics is a punchline

And it’s embarrassing. I don’t go around telling everyone I attended UCLA, but if I simply insinuated I was rooting for UCLA, people respond incredulously. By that I don’t mean the “No way, U$C is better, why aren’t you an $C fan?” kind of way, but rather the, “Why? UCLA hasn’t given you any reason to like them,” kind of way. The sad thing is that when it comes to football in the last decade, it’s true. (I don’t want to discuss basketball right now, football is enough, but you have to admit that things look really bad right now).

by Alanamaslama on Dec 8, 2011 2:24 PM PST reply actions  

Wow....

Didnt’ see that coming.

But that still leaves Malzahn as a possibility for us!

by NorCalBruin on Dec 8, 2011 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Seriously

This guy would be a calculated risk, but a good one.

by Seahawcla on Dec 8, 2011 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Risk

If by “calculated” you mean “big”, and by “risk” you mean “body”, then I agree

by uclaprof on Dec 8, 2011 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

One reason DG would Hire Weis

…it’s an old Rodney Dangerfield line…“If you want to look thin…hang out with fat people”!!!

by GogetemBruins on Dec 8, 2011 3:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Or if you want people to stop calling you Homer

start hanging out with someone that looks like Rodney Dangerfield

Dump Dan!

by bruinclassof10 on Dec 8, 2011 6:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Comment in thread about hiring of Weis

in KU’s hometown paper:

He’s half the man that Mangino is.

Roses are red, violets are blue...f*** $C.

by KSBruin on Dec 8, 2011 6:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Unfortunate state of affairs...

I really don’t like UCLA getting national exposure this way or constantly bashing my own university but the incompetence of Guerreror and our athletic “administration” leaves us Bruins with no choice. We have no option but to speak out and take matters into our own hands as much as we can because of the bumbling fools that are driving our athletics programs and school pride into the ground. Hopefully this can all end soon.

by bruindodger on Dec 8, 2011 2:56 PM PST via mobile reply actions   2 recs

$uc was lucky

As Miles Brand had shielded them until he died and then the so-called investigation did not go deep enough or cover other unsavory and illegal activities under NCAA rules. They got what they deserved but if NCAAwants real reform take away any dollars a team would get from the conference bowl dollars, require thumb prints on SAT or ACT tests, and follow-up on arrests and why no charges were filed or civil cases pursued.

by john4justice on Dec 8, 2011 5:12 PM PST reply actions  

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