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[Update x3] UCLA Def. Coordinator Update - Neu Back In Town, Interviews Kentucky's Brown, Neu to Lock It Down?

As we noted earlier in the week, after the Veto Seto campaign reached its zenith, Coach Neuheisel took a few days off to celebrate his birthday in Cabo. He was scheduled to come back to LA today, but judging by his twitter description of a staff meeting yesterday, it looks like he made it back to Westwood a day early. While "talking ball" may have been the first thing that he shared about his return, his return also saw another interview in the now-two month search for UCLA's next defensive coordinator. According to the LA Times and the OC Register, current University of Kentucky defensive coordinator Steve Brown interviewed for our vacant position earlier in the week.

Brown's openness to leave Lexington has come about after UK coach Joker Philips demoted Brown to a co-defensive coordinator position, bringing in another defensive assistant as a co-coordinator with playcalling responsibilty. Members of our sister SBN site A Sea of Blue has some thoughts on Brown and his performance at Kentucky; a fanpost written during the past season calling for him to go, but with a number of comments defending - or at least explaining the performance of defense under Brown's tutelage. One of the site's editors shared his thoughts in this comment:

When Brown took over from Mike Archer, the UK defense was ranked right around 110th (and had been for some time) in the nation. Since Brown took over, there has been an incremental improvement in UK’s defensive ranking, reaching as high as the high-40’s, low-50’s. The last five years has seen some of UK’s best defensive teams since Claiborne was coaching.

...But, the hope lies in that this D is young,and talented, and that UK’s recruiting (last year, and so far this year) is the best it has ever been. The real problem is not UK’s secondary, but rather how out-performed both the defensive and offensive lines were. I thought both lines played pretty well against UofL, WKU, and Akron, but they had their hat handed to them Saturday. The Gators were just bigger, stronger, and faster at every line position.

Judging by those thoughts, it looks that Brown was able to turn around a very bad defense and make it into at least an average/slightly above average defense in the four years that he has run the defense (he had been Kentucky's defensive backs coach the four years previous).

Another important note regarding the situation in Lexington is that Brown is not Joker Philips' guy; he was originally brought to Lexington, and later promoted to the DC position by former coach Rich Brooks. Brooks was Brown's coach at Oregon and also was responsible for him leaving a post-football career in private business to join the St Louis Rams staff. The decision to demote Brown may be attributable as much to Joker wanting his own person running the defense as to Brown himself.

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The defense had some struggles this season (as noted in the fanpost and comments linked above), but overall, the defense was roughly average (45th in total defense and 72nd in scoring defense) despite having two of his expected starters academically ineligible for the season. From reading the thoughts and comments of some Kentucky followers, it seems that the coaches have done a good job in recruiting over the past couple of years, but face the familiar struggle of many young players having to see significant playing time due to attrition and/or less talented upperclassmen before they might otherwise be ready to contribute.

Before joining the Kentucky staff, Brown was an assistant coach with the St Louis Rams, joining the organization as a defensive assistant in 1995, becoming the cornerbacks coach in 1996-97, and was given responsibility for the defensive backfield by then-coach Dick Vermeil from 1998-2000, including the Rams Super Bowl season of 1999. Brown played college football at Oregon - where he was an all Pac-10 selection all four years as a defensive back and special teams performer - and played 8 seasons in the NFL, mainly with the Houston Oilers. 

Update (A): Oswego flags Rick has made some moves since coming back from Cabo. He has officially brought Jim Mastro from Nevada on board while letting Tod Howard - our DL coach - go. Here is the official release on "coaching changes." Mastro is a great addition. The departure of Howard intriguing. We don't have a DC in place. The only experienced defensive coach on staff left is Tim Hundley (DBs). May be this means the hiring of a DC is imminent who already has a DL coach in mind?  Or, since both Randy Shannon and Mark Carrier each have a year of DL-coaching experience (college and pro, respectively) on their resumes, could one or both of them still be in the mix?

Update x2 (M):  Apparently, Foster of the LAT tweeted this little bit last night:

  • UCLA defensive coordinator search continues. Rick Neuheisel is expceted to interview two more candidates.
  • On defensive coordinator search:
    Neuheisel: "I'm still working through it. I have a list of candidates, I've talked to all of them, and I've let most of them know that I'm going to make a decision by this weekend. I'm trying hard to be done. I want to be thorough because I have to be right. I understand the scrutiny and the perception. At the end of the day, none of that matters. What matters is we play well next year."

    Plus, there's this little tidbit:

    Neuheisel on the DC search having more than two names left:
    "Won't divulge any names, but the answer to how many is yes. I wouldn't rule out one more interview."

    And this one:

    Neuheisel on Randy Shannon:
    "I talked to randy and am impressed with Randy."

    Fasten your lap-straps, folks.

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    Sorry I posted this on the fanpost, but since this is front page I kind of want to emphasize my points

    Steve WHO? I don’t really care about DB’s success. What I care about is our trenches, our DL should be ruthless, any fast WR can be a DB for coverage if the attack on the QB is swift and dangerous. ANY DB can be good, when we had Price busting through opposing lines Interceptions really became a norm during our games. THIS IS THE MAIN THING I AM LOOKING FOR, I want Carrier, or possibly Shannon so long as they ENDORSE a ruthless DL, Trenches will keep us competitive and keep opposing offenses on edge, making mistakes, and nervous. That is ESSENTIAL to UCLA’s success in the future.

    by UCLAF4N on Feb 10, 2011 1:17 PM PST reply actions  

    Randomly CAPITALIZING words DOES NOT make them more EFFECTIVE.

    I’ve never heard of a defensive coach that didn’t endorse a “ruthless” defensive line. Todd Howard is our DL coach, regardless of our DC. He coached BP a couple years ago, and he’ll coach Owa, Marsh & Co. next year.

    by AllHailMightyBruins on Feb 10, 2011 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

    I don't capitalize to be effective, I capitalize to emphasize what I am saying

    As far as ALL defensive coaches endorsing “ruthless” defensive lines, The only thing ruthless about our strategy against opposing qb’s last season, was the “Ruthless” amount of yards carved up against our team in almost all of our games. INCLUDING a back up qbthrowing FOR OVER 300 yards. see UCLA vs. Arizona. (just pathetic)

    What I am essentially saying, is not just a DL who knows how to attack, but a strategy that involves throwing off the momentum teams try to build in a game. Keeping the QB guessing, and heck, even blitzing over and over again, (not always) but we need to create chaos for the offense, you don’t do that by giving the qb all day to throw, and if you are you throw whatever other players you think will create that level of insecurity. Carrier comes from that school of thought, which is why the Jets DL is one of the most respected in the NFL.

    by UCLAF4N on Feb 10, 2011 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

    I understand what you are saying.

    The problem is, the more guys you take out of coverage, the more pressure it puts on your own back end as well. If your guys in the back end can’t execute or tackle, blitzing won’t help.

    It’s really difficult to compare what the Jets do to a college team. The Jets have unlimited time to develop and teach schemes, as well as 100’s of replacements ready to jump on the chance should a player underperform. We don’t have those luxuries. I’m not saying Carrier is a bad choice, but there are some considerations that need to be taken into account. On top of that, Carrier isn’t calling the plays.

    Shannon did not coach the way you describe. He relied on his front four to get pressure and played everything in front of him. Much like Bullough’s scheme, but obviously executed on a higher level.

    by AllHailMightyBruins on Feb 10, 2011 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

    And that is fine if you can trust your DL to do so

    The fact still remains we got destroyed against teams this past season because we didn’t bring enough pressure. The reason we got carved up was not because of missed coverage by our DB’s but because EVENTUALLY players will get open if the qb has all day to throw.

    by UCLAF4N on Feb 10, 2011 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

    Trust me, I was yelling that we needed to get pressure all season.

    I’m not defending our defensive performance last year. I just don’t think the answer is as simple as blitzing with reckless abandon.

    The point of your post seems to be that we need to get more pressure. I agree with that statement.

    by AllHailMightyBruins on Feb 10, 2011 3:20 PM PST up reply actions  

    Agree with AHMB

    Caps Lock Tourette’s is one way to have your posts deleted. It’s annoying.

    by Tydides on Feb 10, 2011 5:09 PM PST up reply actions  

    Ruthless is an attitude we lacked

    but we also lacked the technique to put pressure on the QB.

    IMHO: the #1 failure of coaching last season was in teaching fundamentals.

    by KnudsenRockne on Feb 11, 2011 9:50 AM PST up reply actions  

    I'll try to find some Kentucky film archived on ESPN3.

    I don’t know much about him at all. The improvement under his tutelage is a good sign, and I’m not worried about the demotion considering the coaching change last year. I

    by AllHailMightyBruins on Feb 10, 2011 1:20 PM PST reply actions  

    If not a home run,

    maybe better than a bunt single?

    Trouble is, with this soap opera, anything less than a home run hire feels bland to me. If he’s hired, I hope my own ignorance of Mr. Brown is responsible for my meh, and he comes in with a ringing double, or more.

    by Bruinut on Feb 10, 2011 1:21 PM PST reply actions  

    He is qualified

    Its Rick’s decision. I won’t accept an unqualifed candidate, but Rick should have his choice among those who are qualified. Seto was another Bullough type hire (let’s hope he can do a job he’s never really done before)

    by silverlakebruin on Feb 10, 2011 1:21 PM PST reply actions  

    Was Seto a red herring, you think?

    I wonder if Rick threw Seto out there knowing full well that he wouldn’t be vetted just to buy
    some time – especially since he was going to leave town and all that.

    I mean, c’mon, why would he pick Seto unless he wanted his pick to get rejected?

    by KnudsenRockne on Feb 11, 2011 9:52 AM PST up reply actions  

    All indications are

    that Seto was the guy, unfortunately. It’s not up to us to choose the defensive coordinator, it’s up to rick. We could reject it all we want, but in the end Rick makes the hire, and the admins approve it. We can express our anger or satisfaction with said choices.

    "Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden

    by OswegoBruin on Feb 11, 2011 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

    Perfect. A mediocre DC who fits within our budget.

    Why should we expect anything else? Excellence is just a word. Mediocrity is our goal,. based on our budget.

    by BrendonBruin on Feb 10, 2011 1:22 PM PST reply actions  

    Our coordinator staff budget

    last year was second out of the 8 public schools that are required to report such salaries. Therefore our budget is not ‘mediocre’.

    by bruin1999 on Feb 10, 2011 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

    Didn't we pay some enormous premium for Coach Chow?

    Do you know what the numbers would look like without Chow’s salary for last year? I’m guessing that without that, we wouldn’t be second.

    by Fox 71 on Feb 10, 2011 5:55 PM PST up reply actions  

    Yes -

    Reported as $640k last year. Chow was the 2nd highest paid Asst Coach in the Pac-10 of the public schools. However Bullough was the 2nd highest paid DC in the Pac-10 of the public schools. So we’re not exactly cheap in paying DC (especially for someone who had little experience). The highest paid Asst Coach was, can’t remember his name but the DC for Washington (again of the public schools, it’s assumed Monte Kiffen @ $C would be the highest of all schools).

    According to this story:

    http://espn.go.com/blog/pac10/post/_/id/19091/utah-gets-discount-on-chow
    Chow’s salary last year was $300k + $250k bonus, and we had to pay a $350k-$400k buyout when he was let go.

    by bruin1999 on Feb 10, 2011 11:09 PM PST up reply actions  

    Exactly

    Kentucky was my personal whipping team last season as I bet against them quite often. I did amazingly well, as I rarely bet them to cover the spread. Now it really looks like we’re not getting Shannon. Man, it’s getting hard to get excited about this season.
    http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-football/2011/2/10/1987183/randy-shannon-offered-maryland-defensive-coordinator

    by SWC Bruin on Feb 10, 2011 6:18 PM PST up reply actions  

    I checked the spreads.

    Kentucky was 6-6 against the spread over the course of the year. You must have picked the right weeks.

    by AllHailMightyBruins on Feb 11, 2011 9:05 AM PST up reply actions  

    I like Blake

    I think this would be a good hire simply because he is an aggressive defensive coordinator. I’d rather see us go hard every play and not give up the soft plays, and possibly give up a big play than just let ourselves get stepped on.

    "If you don't have the time to do it right the first time, where will you find the time to do it again the second time?"-Wooden

    by robdog502 on Feb 10, 2011 1:23 PM PST reply actions  

    Brown

    Jeez I already forgot his name haha

    "If you don't have the time to do it right the first time, where will you find the time to do it again the second time?"-Wooden

    by robdog502 on Feb 10, 2011 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

    How is he different from Bullough?

    Well, if he is hired and doesn’t show an aggressive side, as in major, he will get booed of this site in a couple of games.

    Maybe this is a move to get Shannon to come down in price, providing that is the main problem.

    by kevb75 on Feb 10, 2011 1:31 PM PST reply actions  

    Probably as good as it's going to get at this point

    Apparently the SS Shannon has sailed. Hire him and let’s move forward already.

    by Blue Me on Feb 10, 2011 1:31 PM PST reply actions  

    Mastro hired, Howard fired

    From the UCLA release, apparently Howard’s departure had been “in the works”. Maybe we’re pooling funds to afford a DC/D-line coach-in-one.

    The release states:
    UCLA head football coach Rick Neuheisel also announced today that Todd Howard will no longer be part of the Bruin coaching staff.

    “Todd knew that this was a possibility,” said Neuheisel. “We discussed the situation back in December and decided to wait until after recruiting to make a final decision. I feel that it is in the best interest of our program and also in Todd’s best interest that we part ways at this time. I appreciate all that he has done for UCLA football and I know that he will be successful in his next position.”

    “I appreciate the opportunity Coach Neuheisel gave me by allowing me to stay on staff when he was hired,” said Howard. “I knew this might happen and have been planning for this situation.”

    Howard coached the Bruin defensive linemen for the past five seasons after joining the program from the Jacksonville Jaguars.

    by Minspa on Feb 10, 2011 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

    Amazing

    Our defense has to be frustrated right????
    Shannon coming
    Shannon is on hold
    Seto in
    Seto out
    CRN in Cabo celebrating big 5-0
    Brown interviewed
    Howard fired.

    At least the offense had less of a roller coaster ride…chow out…johnson in.

    On a side noteI think there was something on ESPN about how shitty it was that Nebraska did something similar after signing day. They were advocating for allowing these young men to get out of their LOI’s.

    by bruin578 on Feb 10, 2011 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

    Can this get

    even more f’ed up??

    Roses are red, violets are blue...f*** $C.

    by KSBruin on Feb 10, 2011 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

    just wait and see... =P

    oh dear god this is an ugly situation.

    by BruinMW on Feb 10, 2011 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

    Ugly doesn't begin to describe it

    How can you let someone swing in the wind like that? Why wait until after recruiting when it will be a red flag? Amazing….

    by JimmyBurke on Feb 10, 2011 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

    Well

    perhaps Howard was assigned to certain recruits and he failed to deliver on them? If the basis for keeping your job was based on recruiting, then theoretically your job should be safe till signing day.

    by captainqtp on Feb 10, 2011 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

    Howard was completely outrecruited this year

    by Lupoi at Cal and Orgeron at $C. While he helped get Owa, so did Aramide Olaniyan. Howard, I’ve heard, was not one of our more enthusiastic recruiters.

    "Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden

    by OswegoBruin on Feb 10, 2011 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

    I dunno about this either.

    Better than Seto? Yes.

    I’d like to see Kevin Greene interviewed.

    UK has never impressed me. They go 6-6 every year and get 4 of those wins against terrible competition—this year it was Western Kentucky, Akron, Vandy, and Charleston Southern.

    UK’s D gave up 48 to a terrible Florida offense and 42 to an awful Ole Miss team.

    by orlandobruin on Feb 10, 2011 1:34 PM PST reply actions  

    Tough to push for Greene

    I know he is a rah-rah guy which our team needs, but DC is a big step from a OLB coach for a couple of seasons and professional wrestler before. Green Bay’s defense is impressive, but that ship is without a doubt captained by Capers.

    He is learning under the best, but maybe in a couple of years or if we had a more defensive-knowledgeable head coach.

    by JimmyBurke on Feb 10, 2011 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

    I'm not saying Greene would be a "great" hire.

    Absent CRN pulling a rabbit out of the hat, it appears we are scrapping the bottom of the barrel at this point. Rocky Seto and now a DC from a historically terrible defensive team. Id’ rather CRN take a chance on Greene than either of those guys. Some of Dom Capers must have rubbed off on him both from his coaching the Pack to playing for Capers when both were with the Carolina Panthers.

    Of course, if we can get Shannon, Carrier, or Check Cecil, any of them would be better than Greene.

    by orlandobruin on Feb 10, 2011 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

    can someone please define "aggressive"

    and how they are measuring it when evaluating potential hires?

    this guy runs an aggressive defense, this guy doesn’t etc etc.

    If your front four gets pressure on the qb, and you don’t have to blitz, should you be aggressive anyway?

    If your corners can cover man to man, is it aggressive to blitz more often, or just smart? If your corners can’t cover receivers, is it aggressive to blitz alot, or just dumb considering the players you have?

    Football is a lot more complex than easy labels. You measure effectiveness. Bulloughs biggest problem, IMHO is our players were poor at fundamentals and confused way too often. His lack of sophistication and player preparation for each game’s defensive plays were damaging as well.

    At the end of the day, you measure effectiveness. Does this defense limit scoring and yards. How you get there best depends on the strengths and weakensess of your team, and what the other team is doing on offense. There isn’t a “right” answer for every situation.

    by silverlakebruin on Feb 10, 2011 1:42 PM PST reply actions  

    Aggressiveness

    Did not help us much against Utah with Dewayne Walker in 07, or against BYU, OSU and ASU in 08.

    "Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden

    by OswegoBruin on Feb 10, 2011 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

    I think your absolutely right in that it isn't just black and white

    However, it was evident that our DL was NOT getting it done. Bullough consistently mentioned his old school defensive style, in that, he was not a big fan of blitzing, though he showed a few highlights here and there. That being said, i’d rather the qb get rattled and frazzled by a consistent blitz and the wr’s get lucky on catches, than a qb who has time to dance around the field, all the while deciding which highlight will look better on ESPN against us. (exaggeration).

    I didn’t see enough aggresiveness from Bullough or even Walker on many occasions, when your DL isn’t getting it done, you need to throw in pressure against the qb some way…

    by UCLAF4N on Feb 10, 2011 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

    I don't think that's an exaggeration

    It’s become disgusting and vomit-inducing to watch every single Pac-10 football highligh on ESPN be against UCLA. And I don’t think this is a conspiracy vendetta that ESPN has against our school. We’ve just simply give up the biggest plays to the most offenses.

    by BruinMW on Feb 10, 2011 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

    Agreed. We need a DC who has a broad skill set

    so he can fix all of the problems our D has been having.

    He needs to scout the other teams and prepare for them rather than trust in luck.
    He needs to be able to make in game adjustments (preferably when needed, not just at the half)
    He needs to teach his players the plays so everyone knows where to be and what to do in their sleep.
    And he needs to make damn sure every player knows how to tackle!

    by KnudsenRockne on Feb 11, 2011 10:01 AM PST up reply actions  

    Is Dan Guerrero looking for someone to pay us for the experience? That's how it's beginnning to feel.

    We let a perfectly good DC (and HC) from Miami slip through our fingers and are now looking for someone who can be just s mediocre as Bullough.

    Why bother?

    Since CRN’s job is on the line he should have been willing to fork over some of it to Shannon. But no. We’re looking for some 6-6 DC who himself was recently demoted.

    Pathetic.

    by BrendonBruin on Feb 10, 2011 1:46 PM PST reply actions  

    How do you know?

    How do you know that Shannon maybe just didn’t want to come? Yes we can interview and yes we can offer certain things but we can’t force people to come

    by lil eg not cs on Feb 10, 2011 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

    not a bad hire

    Pac 10 guy, improved his D. Things could be much worse. i hope this works out.

    GO BRUINS!

    by donacciani on Feb 10, 2011 2:01 PM PST reply actions  

    And just to stir the pot...

    … Shannon coached DL for one year while an assistant at Miami…

    … and Carrier just finished his one eyar coaching the DL for the Jets.

    Ok, as you were.

    "In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008

    by Meriones on Feb 10, 2011 2:06 PM PST reply actions  

    I think he might be implying

    that Shannon or Carrier may still very well be in play.

    by Blue Me on Feb 10, 2011 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

    ^ gets it

    "In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008

    by Meriones on Feb 10, 2011 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

    I can live with Brown

    but I don’t think he’ll be a huge upgrade over Bullough. I do hope Shannon and Carrier are still in play.

    fingers crossed

    by captainqtp on Feb 10, 2011 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

    Get over Shannon already

    And it’s been repeatedly reported that $$ is not an issue with this hire.

    Shannon shot his wad in Florida and his reputation is pretty damn low right now. And his inflexible Base D has been notoriously exposed by anything resembling a spread — sound familiar? If CRN wanted him he’d be hired, and you’ve got to figure there are some damn strong reasons why all the perks of having hired him before signing day were not strong enough. Citing his defensive ranking as a coordinator in the early-decade Coker years is about as relevant as citing USC’s offensive rankings as an argument for Chow.

    I don’t know where the hell we’re going with this — I sure wish CRN had hired Fangio in 08 instead of the shotgun Walker marriage, and that he hired him in 09 instead of the desperate Bullough rebound marriage — but at this point you have to go with CRN’s judgment and not campaign against anybody he would think is best. If he’s wrong, he needs to go, but to overrule his decisions at this point makes no sense.

    by bluebland on Feb 10, 2011 2:21 PM PST reply actions  

    Personally, I'm glad doesn't appear to be looking at someone with Setonian lack of experience...

    … so I’m willing to at least listen to the options here.

    The fact that either LAT or OCR is reporting that CRN interviewed TWO candidates at least gives me some hope.

    M

    "In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008

    by Meriones on Feb 10, 2011 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

    Boo

    Shannon is my true love.

    by captainqtp on Feb 10, 2011 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

    I really think you're disregarding reality here

    Shannon’s defenses were spectacular. I really don’t see any way you could argue with that, for six straight years. Sure he didn’t work out as a head coach, but he was a top-notch coordinator and recruiter. You cannot look their defensive performances for half a decade and saying they are “old news”. It is a statistic worth noting.

    "Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden

    by OswegoBruin on Feb 10, 2011 3:13 PM PST up reply actions  

    Other things worth noting: competition, talent level, and head coach at the time

    Those performances came in the Big East (when it was even worse) and ACC. And Miami was famously loaded with talent. And the head coach was defensive-minded.

    by bluebland on Feb 11, 2011 7:49 AM PST up reply actions  

    Only thing I know about Brown is he has much more experience than Seto.

    But, I can’t say it would be an inspired hire. I think we have truly hit the bottom of the barrel. As much as i would like to believe Shannon can still be brought onboard, or even Carrier; I cannot hope any longer for things to turn around. I feel like a death row inmate on his last appeal. Very little hope left at this point.

    The best thing you can do for your children is to love their mother. John Wooden

    by MexiBruin on Feb 10, 2011 2:36 PM PST reply actions  

    I know that feeling...

    luckily my appeal was granted and I got away with it! muahahahahahaahahaha

    by captainqtp on Feb 10, 2011 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

    Cheer up Mexi,

    I think at the end of the day we will be pleasantly surprised by all of the additions and subtractions to our staff. Neu knows he’s got 1 year to instill hope in the fanbase, which I am expecting (though not very confident) includes a win against $uc. Anything less will be a huge dissapointment, but I believe our record will be much better next year if not by the DC hire, I believe by overall progress by our players :)

    by UCLAF4N on Feb 10, 2011 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

    Per Foster's tweets in the past day or so:

    Kentucky Def Coord Steve Brown was at UCLA for interview on Tuesday: http://lat.ms/eQvY1Q
    about 2 hours ago via web .

    UCLA defensive coordinator search continues. Rick Neuheisel is expceted to interview two more candidates.
    about 15 hours ago via web .

    UCLA Coach Rick Neuheisel is expected to interview another d-coord candidate this week.
    11:12 PM Feb 8th via web .

    "In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008

    by Meriones on Feb 10, 2011 2:41 PM PST reply actions  

    Nice catch!

    Let’s hope it is a tactic to get one of our better DC cadidates excited about joining UCLA

    by UCLAF4N on Feb 10, 2011 2:42 PM PST up reply actions  

    So does the hiring of Mastro, who's a pistol expert

    mean that CRN is committed to that offense? (I know, this is a defensive thread, but I don’t see another thread that mentions the hiring of Mastro.)

    by fanoverboard on Feb 10, 2011 3:05 PM PST reply actions  

    There are a couple covering Mastro in the fanposts...

    … but you can hang here, too.

    "In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008

    by Meriones on Feb 10, 2011 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

    No. I think it means RN wants to have a hybrid of it in the O mix.

    We have one QB who is a double threat, and so we can mix it in.

    by 1970 on Feb 10, 2011 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

    My take on Mastro from what I have read

    is that the Pistol will be a component of our offense next year. How much of a component remains to be seen. Other than Nevada, it seems that other D1 schools use the Pistol as one of several offensive formations, not their base offense.

    It would make sense to continue to build on whatever we learned last year from using the Pistol that was effective but use different offensive schemes as well. Mastro should be a huge part of improving the effectiveness of the Pistol. I don’t think we will know for sure what CRN and Mike Johnson have in mind until Spring ball.

    by kkucla on Feb 10, 2011 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

    I wouldn't mind

    staying all pistol, all the time this year.

    by captainqtp on Feb 10, 2011 3:35 PM PST up reply actions  

    except

    we need something for goal line.

    by captainqtp on Feb 10, 2011 3:36 PM PST up reply actions  

    I think we have a plethora of

    playmakers here. This hire of Mastro means we won’t be having a fullback any time soon. I think we’ll be ok without the big guy. Would have liked to see him at DT, though.

    "Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden

    by OswegoBruin on Feb 10, 2011 5:51 PM PST up reply actions  

    I really don't understand what you're referring to.

    But ok.

    "Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden

    by OswegoBruin on Feb 10, 2011 10:22 PM PST up reply actions  

    CRN is loading up the offense while the defense is left with guys like Succo and Brown. Now if we do hire Brown, and he does our defense well, I will gladly make amends to him and the nation.

    by SWC Bruin on Feb 11, 2011 7:07 PM PST up reply actions  

    Well, it would be sweet to win that game against Utah

    with the pistol outgunning whatever Norm Chow’s firing at us. (Actually, it’ll be sweet to win with ANY offense we can throw together.)

    by fanoverboard on Feb 10, 2011 3:42 PM PST up reply actions  

    I'd be happy

    to win that game with -100 yards of offense, as long as we win.

    by captainqtp on Feb 10, 2011 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

    It's a personnel issue

    What we run will depend on who we have that can play QB.

    Prince was not bad in the pistol. Brehaut was.

    A lot depends on what we do with Hundley.

    sjh

    by Class of 66 on Feb 10, 2011 4:46 PM PST up reply actions  

    IIRC: We ran Pistol b/c our OL was weak

    We went with the Pistol because we had Prince but when we lost
    him in the summer our offense was doomed. Brehaut took all
    the reps but wasn’t suited for the Pistol – and Prince who was
    suited for it didn’t get to practice.

    It was the old UCLA QB Gypsy curse. Let’s hope it that was the
    last time.

    by KnudsenRockne on Feb 11, 2011 10:16 AM PST up reply actions  

    Prince isn't suited to the pistol

    He was just a better runner than Brehaut, which is like saying he’s the warmest piece of ice. Hundley is a fit for the pistol, for the spread, for any offense really, but he’s mobile and that will be best shown in the spread/pistol that we’ll likely be implementing. I hope he starts, because he will be the dynamic our offense has lacked.

    "Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden

    by OswegoBruin on Feb 11, 2011 10:57 AM PST up reply actions  

    More Than Just A Better Runner

    The pistol requires two things that Prince did well, considering this was his first exposure to the system — he had to make “reads” and he had to be a master of “deception”.

    Unfortunately, Brehaut did neither well. He didn’t fool anybody and it appeared his reads were made too slowly.

    Yes, the original reason to go to the Pistol was to generate a running game behind a weak O line — but to do that, the QB had to execute the read and deception — and Prince did.

    sjh

    by Class of 66 on Feb 11, 2011 12:04 PM PST up reply actions  

    Maybe he knew this was in the works...

    … and stuck around so the D recruiting wouldn’t be in a complete shambles with 2 vacancies on NSD, and both sides part ways amicably.

    Fair enough. Best of luck to Howard… so long as his interests don’t conflict with us. Nice to see him land on his feet.

    M

    "In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008

    by Meriones on Feb 10, 2011 3:36 PM PST up reply actions  

    I hope he does well there

    I feel bad for WSU. They have been in quite the rough patch lately.

    by captainqtp on Feb 10, 2011 3:46 PM PST up reply actions  

    Daily Bruin: Neuheisel expects to name DC this weekend, still could be 1 more interview

    From their Twitter feed:

    #UCLA coach Rick Neuheisel expects to make a defensive coordinator decision by this weekend.
    #UCLA coach Rick Neuheisel says he has more than two names on his list for DC and isn’t ruling out one more interview.
    Says he’s had the guy picked three different times now but had to go in a different direction.

    by Westwood Wizard on Feb 10, 2011 3:49 PM PST reply actions  

    My guess

    is that Shannon (baggage?) and Seto (BN backlash) are two of the three.

    The other candidate probably told CRN he would be interested if some other opportunity did not transpire (for example – Fangio if he did not follow Harbaugh, Rocky Long if he did get the HC job at SDSU, etc.)

    by kkucla on Feb 10, 2011 3:59 PM PST up reply actions  

    Well lets see

    Fangio was likely #1, I personally don’t think Long was ever on his mind. I think Shannon was #2, and he had to pass based on monetary/(stupid) ethics concerns, and #3 was Rocky Seto, based on his uh, overactive gums.

    Here’s hoping Shannon isn’t entirely out, but I’ll still be intrigued to see who ends up as DC. Howard was likely gone based on Rick’s interviews and their desires to bring in a new line coach.

    "Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden

    by OswegoBruin on Feb 10, 2011 4:03 PM PST up reply actions  

    "had the guy picked three different times now"

    i know most folks are taking this to mean he’s picked three different candidates each time which obviously fits, but anyone interpret this to mean he’s settled on the same guy three times but was forced to go in a different direction each time?

    Across The Face

    by rb bruin on Feb 10, 2011 4:15 PM PST up reply actions  

    Says he’s had the guy picked three different times now but had to go in a different direction.

    anyone have a clue on that line?

    wanting to be able we certainly wished,
    ... but being allowed to try we didn`t dare

    by c bruin 84 on Feb 10, 2011 3:52 PM PST reply actions  

    yea, that's pretty eye-opening

    We can all explain the Seto situation.

    I’m assuming Shannon was another one since all the media outlets indicated it was an all-but-done-deal at the time. That generates a set a questions on its own.

    The third is a mystery to me.

    So who’s calling the shots here? Boosters and alumni vetoed Seto. Who vetoed Shannon and the mystery #3 guy?

    by BruinMW on Feb 10, 2011 3:59 PM PST up reply actions  

    Don't think that they had to have been "rejected"

    Like kkucla says above, could have been Fangio or Rocky Long—someone taking another job.

    by Westwood Wizard on Feb 10, 2011 4:03 PM PST up reply actions  

    I confess

    it was me, but I didn’t want to ruin my prospects by posting it before the official announcement.

    After the Seto thing went down, CRN came to me and said “Captain Qtip, I need to run this defense. After seeing you comment on Bruinsnation.com and hearing about your JC experience at OLB I realized it will take someone like you to reach these athletes in the modern world.”

    I happily accepted, but a coffee stain on my shirt ruined my first impression with Block and he shot it down. Sorry I blew it guys.

    by captainqtp on Feb 10, 2011 4:09 PM PST up reply actions  

    "had to go in a different direction"

    That is CTSS speaking in a CTS-like cliche

    Won’t any reporter anywhere tell CTSS that the phrase “had to go a aifferent direction” is meaningless and untruthful. In fact, I wish these alleged reporters would just once say, “CTSS (or anyone else) commented on the situation by talling an out-and-out lie, namely, ‘we had to go in a different direction.’”

    CTSS, you’re not going anywhere. There is no geography involved in this hire. How about telling the truth. Say “we wanted to hire one guy, and I won’t tell you his name, but he said he would rather ask for spare change at Wilshire and Westwood that coach on my staff, and we actually hired another guy, but I had to rescind that because the BN and others convinced me that I would be fired if I didn’t, and I like this job because I still get paid even though I have a winning percentage that’s lower than anyone since 1925.”

    by Fox 71 on Feb 10, 2011 6:04 PM PST up reply actions  

    What about a Ken Norton??

    Could this be a possibility?? Has any one heard about if he would be interested. I know he and CRN have had words in the past, but I think he might be a good choice if they can reconcile.

    Bruin 1986

    by Crummies on Feb 10, 2011 3:55 PM PST reply actions  

    God no.

    The guy cannot coach. One hell of a recruiter, but there’s a reason he had one position only on Pete Carroll’s staff, and was never promoted. I do not think this would be a good idea.

    "Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden

    by OswegoBruin on Feb 10, 2011 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

    A lot of Bruins think he burned the bridge when he attacked CRN, and by extension, UCLA.

    by Westwood Wizard on Feb 10, 2011 4:07 PM PST up reply actions  

    howard

    didn’t mcreynolds say he was a big reason for his commitment here? maybe he was supposed to bring in a bigger haul of dts, we seemed to lose out on a fair number we had shots at, i guess. but seems like plenty of blame to go around as far as recruiting this year. we’ll see what happens.

    who knows maybe crn is calling jeff fisher. he’s an sc guy but he hates kiffykins. maybe crn had to clear an extra position for fisher’s son too? haha.

    Across The Face

    by rb bruin on Feb 10, 2011 4:05 PM PST reply actions  

    Update on Randy Shannon

    According to ESPN, Maryland has offered him the DC spot on their team. I’m still praying that he doesn’t take it and ends up in Westwood. We’ll see.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6110393

    Dreaming of Westwood while in permanent exile in Virginia

    by VABruin on Feb 10, 2011 5:07 PM PST reply actions  

    I think, if he still is a candidate

    He’ll wait to see what Rick does, and what sort of an offer he can make. I’m not holding my breath though. Stuff like that doesn’t happen for us, and even when it does, it doesn’t work out well (see: Chow)

    "Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden

    by OswegoBruin on Feb 10, 2011 5:52 PM PST up reply actions  

    I wonder if it'll be one of those up-and-coming, not-yet-a-DC types...

    … the kind that got discussed in BN way way back in December when this wandering though the DC desert started.

    At this point, anything’s possible.

    "In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008

    by Meriones on Feb 10, 2011 6:03 PM PST reply actions  

    Sorry, but no on Shannon please

    All I read on him is not encouraging. The guy has baggage and honestly would be a bad hire. I would take Brown over Shannon any day. One thing I like about Brown is that he can go between 3-4 and 4-3 defense a trait RN wanted as a DC.

    by 82ndAirborne on Feb 10, 2011 6:11 PM PST reply actions  

    I haven't read much conclusive on this baggage

    But I’ve seen enough people allude to it to be wary. Shannon’s resume is impressive, but I think a lot of people fell in love with him based on reputation and a desire to hire a name and with the wait that we’ve been through, he’s been built up in a lot of people’s minds.

    by Westwood Wizard on Feb 10, 2011 6:42 PM PST up reply actions  

    "name" coach doesn't matter anymore

    Now that recruiting’s over, the “name” issue becomes much less relevant. Reputation might win recruits, but it doesn’t win ballgames. All we need now is a coach who can help win ballgames. If he can do that, he becomes a “name.”

    by palafox on Feb 10, 2011 7:50 PM PST up reply actions  

    I've wondered

    Like most of us, what I know about Shannon, I’ve read here. His record moved in the wrong direction this year, and that included some painful losses. On the surface, however, this did not look like a “must fire” situation. So you’ve got to wonder if the record this year was the only reason for the fire. I doubt it.

    Shannon may be a fine coach,but when it comes to the behind the scenes stuff, I think CRN is finally taking a hard look not just at expertise, but at chemistry -and the right chemistry for UCLA.

    by Peter47 on Feb 10, 2011 9:17 PM PST up reply actions  

    Seen too many allude to it but heard none myself

    not saying there isn’t any, but what baggage is there? I don’t like seeing posts that throw out some red flag with no facts to back them up. Can you possibly lay some out so some of us can better understand your apprehension? Thanks!

    by sponkey21 on Feb 10, 2011 10:15 PM PST up reply actions  

    For all the crap we've given him

    in regards to how long this has taken (to say nothing of other elements in this search), CRN is right when he says that the only thing that will matter is how well we play on the field. At the very least, he has that one priority in the right place…

    by MrGray on Feb 10, 2011 6:36 PM PST reply actions  

    True...

    though we may not play as well on the field as if we had hired a DC seven weeks ago, gotten more recruits because of that DC, and had seven more weeks for that DC to work with crn and the defensive staff.

    Roses are red, violets are blue...f*** $C.

    by KSBruin on Feb 10, 2011 7:06 PM PST up reply actions  

    I agree with your last point, but

    if we were to wind up relying on freshmen next year given the talent already on the team, I think something would have to have gone terribly wrong.

    by MrGray on Feb 10, 2011 8:17 PM PST up reply actions  

    Agree that next year's freshmen

    hopefully aren’t the basis of next year’s results – and thus may not have much effect on crn’s future – but next year’s freshmen are the building blocks for our program, crn or no. Potentially having missed out on some recruits may affect how well we play on the field for four years to come.

    Roses are red, violets are blue...f*** $C.

    by KSBruin on Feb 10, 2011 10:16 PM PST up reply actions  

    One 15 player class of recruits will not kill this program

    even if we recruited fifteen sacks of scalloped potatoes. 3 classes out of four have been stellar, and this most recent one filled some gaps with solid players. If we can do well this season, Rick will get back to good recruiting. Imagine what he could do with a good win-loss record to point to…

    "Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden

    by OswegoBruin on Feb 10, 2011 10:25 PM PST up reply actions  

    Right!

    The main reason we want our DC ASAP is it takes time to figure out your coaching staff and players. Spring ball is only a few weeks away.

    by KnudsenRockne on Feb 11, 2011 10:32 AM PST up reply actions  

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