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UCLA vs. U$C: Ben Howland on the Spot

Not much has changed since our first preview of UCLA vs. U$C.  The main difference is the Trogans are not playing quite as well, especially guard Jio Fontan. (Donte Smith off the bench has had a couple good games though and is a streaky player.). U$C is 2-4 since they played UCLA, while UCLA is 5-1.   So instead of matchups, let's talk about some of the other factors in the game tonight. 

So four things briefly, then to the important fifth:

1. Losing 5 in a row to any team is unacceptable, to U$C is unthinkable. 

UCLA heads into tonight's clash with USC at Pauley Pavilion having lost four consecutive games to the Trojans, equaling the longest skid against an opponent of the Ben Howland era, yet the Bruins are focused more on their own shortcomings than their crosstown rival.

2. The worst loss in the CBH era was last year to U$C as Nestor described here and here.  It is important to note that CBH said at the time: 

"I'm embarrassed for our team," UCLA Coach Ben Howland said. "I feel embarrassed for the program, for the former players and coaches. That's all you can say, it was embarrassing."

Winning tonight is not just another game. This would be the game for the Bruins not just to win but to win big.

3. The ticket to the Big Dance.  We can't have anymore bad losses. If it were not for the loss to Montana, our worse RPI loss this year would be to U$C, we can't have that happen twice in a year and make the tournament. 

4. Speaking of Montana, one of the excuses for that loss was that everyone from the students who did not show up to the players who stayed out too late for the game were effected by the U$C football game the night before. Everyone involved with UCLA should be up for this game. 

5. But most of all CBH better not lose it because of his coaching decisions. Which is what the rest of this post is about after the jump.

Star-divide

CBH in the pre-U$C interview talks about he will "never say never" on a zone but states that he is very "unlikely" to play zone against U$C.  The conventional wisdom is to beat U$C, you play zone.  There are a multitude of reasons for this but there seem to be some UCLA specific ones:

  • Need to keep Joshua Smith on the court and out of foul trouble and Reeves Nelson is still playing on a bad ankle.  It seems you would want to keep those two on the court, possibly by protecting/resting them in a zone.
  • The bench, specifically Brendan Lane, cannot cover Vucevic as CBH details in the press conference and states Lane will not play him this game. 
  • UCLA has had problems with quality bigs this year, as detailed here.  A zone would seem to be a possible solution, certainly worth trying in this game.

However, CBH will not play zone.  Given the fact that Lane will not play Vucevic and the fact that Smith can't cover him (he is too quick and good outside shooting) that means that Nelson will have to play the guy that CBH considers one of the three best bigs in the Pac-10 for much of the game. 

Which brings us to the last and most troubling point of the press conference linked above.  CBH took Joshua Smith out of the game against Arizona State after he argued with the referee about a non-foul call and did not go back on defense.  Arizona State promptly took advantage of the 5 on 4 situation to score a three.  That much is not in dispute.  After this it gets a bit weird.  At the 2:48 mark CBH responds to a question is there a difference when Reeves walks back?

"Uh, yeah there is no difference [when Reeves walks back]."

I checked the game threads and there was only one time I saw when Reeves was benched for walking back.  I am sure it has happen more but I am just as sure that Reeves, unlike Smith in this case, was not punished when he walked back on defense. CBH goes on to say that they just talked about it and that Smith has done it before as well.

There is a lot of consternation at BN over the treatment of players being unequal, especially last year with Drago.  Let me emphasize no one should compare Reeves to Drago, there is no comparison.  Reeves is a contributing player to this UCLA team.  But the question is does CBH treat different players by different standards and, more importantly, is that fair?  No coach, not even Coach, treated all players exactly the same.  That said, the second part "is this fair" is more important.  Why is Reeves seemingly getting away with walking back while Josh is not.  It could be as CBH says that they had just talked about it, so he felt the need to take Josh out.  But last year, in particular, CBH seemed to have a quick hook for some players while letting other players get away with the same mistake. 

Tonight will be a good test of Reeves and CBH on this front.  Reeves will likely have his toughest defensive job of the year for much of the game.  If Reeves does not play defense hard, will CBH yank him?   BN and Bruin fans will be watching closely. 

UCLA must beat U$C tonight and CBH had better have the team ready with a good game plan to win.  During the loss in the last USC game, Zeek Jones was not himself and favoring his finger.  The Bruins have no excuses tonight.  CBH has to win for the fans, for this team and for himself.

Go Bruins and Beat $C!

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Coach was more consistent

He had the hook ready for Sidney Wicks, Larry Hollyfield, Andre McCarter, whenever he felt they were playing out of control. I don’t think he played favorites, which is why every player knew that he played the Wooden way or he didn’t play.

I wish he’d been a little more forgiving of Andre and had him at pg in the NC State game, but that’s another story. Tommy Curtis was the senior and had earned his slot.

It should be noted that no Wooden player ever got gassed at the end of games, nor would any player have failed to get back on defense, especially protesting a call. They left challenging the refs to Coach.

by Herodotus on Feb 2, 2011 5:32 AM PST reply actions  

On Coach

Wooden prided himself on his team’s conditioning. Wooden would never let Reeves be so out of shape.

by DCBruins on Feb 2, 2011 6:56 AM PST up reply actions  

COACH

epitomized humanity, not just athletics, at its very best.

by Htse005 on Feb 2, 2011 8:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Be there

I am going to fly in from Salt Lake for signing day and this game… no excuses, people! Be there!

"Always go to other people's funerals, otherwise they won't go to yours." -Yogi Berra

by SLC_Bruin on Feb 2, 2011 6:59 AM PST reply actions  

Awesome!

I hope there are more like you!

by DCBruins on Feb 2, 2011 7:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Last night was the largest campout....

….for lower level student tickets in 3 years. Students should be pumped….. If not, they should find another school

GO BRUINS!!! CHEER LIKE CHAMPIONS!!!

by bk bruin on Feb 2, 2011 7:28 AM PST reply actions  

That is good news.

The students have been good since school started this quarter but that is very good sign.

by DCBruins on Feb 2, 2011 7:34 AM PST up reply actions  

to be clear, aren't we on a 4 game losing streak to them

not that 4 is any better, just that we lost in the pac-10 tournament in Darren Collison’s senior year, twice in Michael Roll’s last year, and once this year.

by BruinEngy on Feb 2, 2011 9:14 AM PST reply actions  

Tonight is going to be incredibly tough

Even if $C is lacking serious depth on the bench due to the transfer of Bryce Jones, we also don’t necessarily have the best bench either (as detailed by DCBruins). Considering we barely had any answer for their bigs in the last game, I’m hoping that our guards get the idea to drive it inside and try to draw fouls on them. Their bench is too short to handle the possibility of fouling out. Here’s hoping Honeycutt, Zeke, Anderson, and Lee can also get hot from beyond the arc, $C doesn’t have the best 3-point defense (7th in the pac-10)

by BruinEngy on Feb 2, 2011 9:30 AM PST reply actions  

Drawing Fouls is a good point and could be key

The flip is at home with the SPTRs our bigs could draw a lot fouls on their bigs. If I were to a traditional preview, I might say a keys is whose bigs do not get in foul trouble.

by DCBruins on Feb 2, 2011 9:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Unfortunately, because it is SPTR's

you never really know how they’re going to call it. I could see a number of ways this could go badly including:
swallowing the whistle and allowing $C players to get away with whatever they want
ticky-tack fouls against us, like touch calls
something as horrible as those 2 offensive foul calls on Lee in the game against ASU.

I say that here because I’m hoping to reverse/anti-jinx it from happening tonight

by BruinEngy on Feb 2, 2011 9:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Re: " Sees Nelson as unreachable "

If this is indeed the case, then it verifies what we all surmised here. Howland & company fumbled in their recruiting the last two seasons. They misjudged the potential recruits’ character and its fitness for his program, especially the coaching style.

by Htse005 on Feb 2, 2011 10:04 AM PST reply actions  

"is it fair"

Fairness is not the direct issue. CBH needs to prepare his players so that they perform well now and throughout their careers at UCLA. The discipline issue relates to how it helps or hurts him in preparing those players for in game performance. “Fairness” matters only so far as it affects the perceptions and efforts of the players. Uneven or imbalanced systems of reward and punishment might lead to suboptimal on-field performance.

In the case of the Belgrade bricklayer, the total lack of discipline exhibited by the player and by the coach towards that player, pretty clearly affected the motivation and effort put forth by other players. This is where the issue of “fairness” starts to matter.

by EdtheBruin on Feb 2, 2011 10:15 AM PST reply actions  

Benching of Smith

I applaud CBH for benching him for not getting back, but it seems like too heavy a hand to keep him out for the rest of the game. The proper way to do it, is to yank him immediately, keep him out a little longer than usual, and send him back in with an explanation that hard effort and hustle is expected. CBH loses track of playing time during a game, which has accounted for TL being held out for entire halves. Insulting JS by keeping him out the entire game has the effect of losing a player’s loyalty, which we cannot afford.

Basketball is a great game, and part of a coach’s skill is making it fun, while at the same time breeding an atmosphere of competition. CBH seems not to have a deft hand at this element.

I am going to give TH a pass for last weekend, as he played with the flu and still rebounded well. I hope his outside shot comes back. We don’t match up very well against this quick Trogan team. We will have to shoot well to win.

I am definitely going to the game tonight, and look forward to a raucous Pauley Pavilion. I hope it is not the last time the place rocks before the remodel.

Go Bruins.

by 75NatChamps on Feb 2, 2011 11:50 AM PST reply actions  

Did you hear Howland's response to the question of Josh's benching?

Howland’s decision to leave Smith out was not due to the hustle issue, but rather to his, Howland’s that is, belief that the line up in the game at the time was the best defensively and that those guys had the flow of the game. Howland didn’t want to disrupt the on court flow/cohesiveness.

by kevb75 on Feb 2, 2011 11:55 AM PST up reply actions  

He did take him out but did not bench him

He explains he took SMith out after that play but did not “bench” him. He kept him out the rest of the game as Kev said. As I said it all seemed a little strange.

by DCBruins on Feb 2, 2011 12:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Can we get the women's teram special seats for the game?...

Would love to hear the comments they might come up with for Mr. Vucevic.

by kevb75 on Feb 2, 2011 11:52 AM PST reply actions  

why's that?

is this going to be similar to the alleged rape investigations with UW players? (link for those who did not see the article)

by BruinEngy on Feb 2, 2011 12:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Help!

The game will not be on TV in Houston because the Rockets are on the channel.

Were all of the streams taken down, yesterday? Was Justin one of those disconnected?

Ugh! What a terrible day.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Feb 2, 2011 2:59 PM PST reply actions  

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