[Update x3] NSD Thread Part 3: White Flips Back to UCLA; Facing Heat Neuheisel Backs Off (for Now) From Hiring Seto
by Meriones on Feb 2, 2011 4:20 PM PST
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PrintOkay, it's definitely been a National Signing Day unlike one in recent Bruin memory. Per the official site, CRN was scheduled to have a press conference at 4pm today. You can stream it in at the official site.
Also, there are scattered reports (subscription info only) that Torien White may not be sending in his LOI to U$C after all, and that he may be honoring his prior verbal to CRN and UCLA after all.
More as we get it. For now, consider this Part 3 of the NSD Thread.
[Update (M)]: CRN confirms that Torian White has signed with UCLA.
[Update x2 (M)]: CRN says to "make this day about the recruits. We'll talk about coaches another time."
This may or may not mean that the firestorm of protest both here and throughout the online Bruin community may be having an effect. If you are as opposed to hiring a thoroughly untested and unproven lifelong Trogan as your DC, then by all menas chime in and spread the word.
[Update x 3 (A)]: Here is UCLA's official release on the 16 member class:
Sixteen outstanding high school seniors or junior college performers have signed letters-of-intent or grant-in-aids to play football at UCLA, head coach Rick Neuheisel announced today. That number includes three prep seniors already attending classes and a junior college player who signed his LOI in December and will enroll for Spring Quarter.
Leading the class is quarterback Brett Hundley, rated the nation's No. 3 player at his position by Scout.com and SuperPrep. Hundley enrolled at UCLA in January, along with defensive end Sam Tai and linebacker Aaron Wallace.
"We filled several areas of need with this class, including offensive line and quarterback," said Neuheisel. "We feel this is a quality group of young men, both on and off the field, who will fit well with the classes we have signed the past few years. It's not as large as some of our classes because we did not have a lot of scholarship seniors but we think it has great upside."
And the full list:
HIGH SCHOOL SIGNEES
| Name | Pos. | Ht. | Wt. | Hometown | High School |
| Jacob Brendel | C | 6-5 | 265 | Plano, TX | East |
| Brett Hundley | QB | 6-4 | 210 | Chandler, AZ | Chandler |
| Devin Lucien | WR | 6-1 | 190 | Encino, CA | Crespi |
| Steven Manfro | RB | 5-10 | 187 | Castaic, CA | Valencia |
| Conor McDermott | OL | 6-8 | 245 | Nashville, TN | Ensworth |
| Kevin McReynolds | DT | 6-2 | 281 | Washington, DC | St. John's College |
| Raymond Nelson | TE | 6-5 | 215 | Modesto, CA | Christian |
| Jerry Neuheisel | QB | 6-1 | 185 | Los Angeles, CA | Loyola |
| Will Oliver | OT | 6-8 | 295 | Brentwood, CA | Heritage |
| Mike Orloff | LB | 6-2 | 205 | Danvers, MA | Lawrence Academy |
| Sam Tai | DE | 6-4 | 234 | Henderson, NV | Liberty |
| Brandon Tuliaupupu | DT | 6-1 | 296 | Claremont, CA | Claremont |
| Aaron Wallace | LB | 6-4 | 215 | San Diego, CA | Rancho Bernardo |
| Torian White | OT | 6-6 | 280 | Lakewood, CA | Lakewood |
| Ben Wysocki | OG | 6-5 | 280 | Los Alamitos, CA | Los Alamitos |
JUNIOR COLLEGE SIGNEE
| Name | Pos. | Ht. | Wt. | Hometown | High School |
| Ryan Hofmeister | LB | 6-2 | 220 | Riverside, CA | Riverside City |
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CRN talking generally about the recruits right now.
Dollars to donuts the first question is about the DC situation.
"In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008
CRN talking about Torian coming to UCLA
Good choice Torian, welcome to UCLA
Dreaming of Westwood while in permanent exile in Virginia
CRN said Torian had to follow his heart, we're thrilled to have him here.
"In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008
I can just see Kitten's face...
“Dang, I thought our gangsters would be enough to scare him to $c*.”
"The true athlete should have character, not be a character."- John Wooden
He looks possessed
which I guess he should be, if he’s losing to Timeout. :P
Roses are red, violets are blue...f*** $C.
by KSBruin on Feb 2, 2011 4:49 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
just of the wall enough to get me laughing
did not even notice or expect that. Haha
Some of the stats on these linemen are impressive.
Hopefully bodes well for the future.
Dreaming of Westwood while in permanent exile in Virginia
So is Torian White our TROGAN moment? (I love our guys, but you know this is not going to die here.)
He really didn't seem excited
about picking up that trogan hat earlier today. I bet we’ll hear more details about this sometime
As a parent myself, I would feel more at peace ....
… paying for rent for my babies in Brentwood/WLA/SantaMonica/Westwood OVER South Central! WORD
Look..
I dislike USC. But I think we cross the line when we besmirch people who live in the South Central community. I lived there, and when I was in grad school at UCLA, I lived in Westwood on Veteran. And you might be surprised that I was pretty uncomfortable often in Westwood (hello Ralphs!).
And it’s also this attitude that kills us with recruits from South Central high schools. There’s no real reason why kids from Crenshaw, Dorsey, etc. pick USC, other than there’s a perception that UCLA is the suburban school that doesn’t care about them. That’s reinforced by South Central coaches who remember when UCLA didn’t venture into their neighborhoods. For all of CRN’s faults, he’s tried to change that. It would be smart if we as fans didn’t reinforce the stereotype of South Central, particularly when I know most of you have never lived in the area. Hate SC, not South Central.
Lawrence Ross
by alpha1906 on Feb 2, 2011 6:49 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
+1000000000000000000
Bruin for life!!!!
You can't let praise or criticism get to you. It's a weakness to get caught up in either one. - John Wooden
by g.granillo on Feb 2, 2011 9:05 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Totally agree.
I teach some great kids who live in south central and belittling their neighborhood, belittles them. Let’s not become elitists! Poverty is not something to be critical of in my opinion. Unlike the opinion of most trogans who have shirts that read things like “my maid went to ucla”. Those classist pigs!
Go Bruins!
Ya know something?
When I went to UCLA way back in the 80’s (back when we rode dinosaurs to class ;) my Uncle made some remark about me not being snooty enough for UCLA. It took me a couple of years before I got that. I thought he was talking $$$ but he was talking intellectual snobbery
by KnudsenRockne on Feb 3, 2011 12:23 AM PST up reply actions
Rec'd
Calling it “University of South Central” is offensive and demeaning. Saying stuff like that is really detrimental to our image and really detrimental to the reality which is there are good parts of town and bad parts. UCLA should be a goal for these kids, hell college should be a goal! But we shouldn’t sit in our tower and dispense judgment.
"Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden
OT: Mitch Mustain arrested
http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/ncf/news/story?id=6083009
suspicion of selling subscription drugs
Did you mean prescription drugs?
'CaptainJack65'
Jack Metcalf
by captainjack65 on Feb 2, 2011 7:17 PM PST up reply actions
posted too quick
Was still trying to figure out how on the earth it took 2 months to come up with Seto as a possible solution to our DC position.
"Number of coaching things to finish...
… Today is about the recruits, we’ll talk about coaches at another time."
a number of coaching things to settle...
leaving it for another day..
"Be more concerned with your character than your reputation, because your character is what you really are, while your reputation is merely what others think you are." --John Wooden
Can we pray
that holding off on coaching info means we’re still signing Shannon, who can’t sign until after NSD?
Roses are red, violets are blue...f*** $C.
No news
IS good news. That means Seto is not yet a part of the staff (hopefully lol).
my hope too
I remember someone pointing out that he had a clause in his Miami contract that said if he was hired before NSD was over the new school had to pay the buyout. If we hire him after today he might be a LOT cheaper. This makes me hope that he is still very much on the table.
I'm with you on that
And tomorrow is after NSD, so get on it, CRN!
Dreaming of Westwood while in permanent exile in Virginia
maybe they caved to all the bad press?
hey CRN, sign shannon at 12:01 am!!
"Be more concerned with your character than your reputation, because your character is what you really are, while your reputation is merely what others think you are." --John Wooden
Caved to Bad Press??
Not a chance. As much as we all like Bruins Nation, the actual impact we have on decisions like selection of the DC is absolutely none!!! If I thought CRN and DG were on the computer worrying about what the bloggers are saying about their decisions, I would support their immediate ouster.
Could that be a good sign?
If the DC position isn’t being announced today, that lends further credence to the rumors about waiting to sign Shannon after NSD correct?
Solid recruiting DAY.
Decent class, and addressed needs—bigs on both sides of the ball.
No news is good news WRT DC at this point.
BIG TIME
We can herald the last two years’ classes all we want wrt to ratings, but we definitely filled some huge needs on both lines. Excellent recruiting class, IMO.
Decent Class?
We got 14 guys… this is the kind of class that can kill a program.
I doubt even 1/3 of them will ever see the field. Not saying that 2/3 stars can’t become great players, but there’s a reason why they aren’t offered by most elite programs. If we have to resort to taking guys who were previously commited to Sacramento State this program is going to go no where but down.
8 linemen in the class, plus a 5 star QB
Those were our biggest needs, and we filled them. We have young talent at just about every skill position.
This wasn’t a great class, but it didn’t really need to be. If we don’t get skill position players next year, then we might be in trouble. But that’s not something that we need to worry about right now.
by SuperBruinMan on Feb 2, 2011 5:31 PM PST up reply actions
Look at the all pac 10 star rankings
Then shut up. 75% of those players were either unranked or 3 stars.
"Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden
Yeah... and the PAC-10 is irrelevant
other than USC and Oregon.
Look at their recruiting rankings and tell me that their fans would not puke at the sight of this recruiting class.
Are you serious right now?
The pac 10 was the second best conference in the country. Stanford was a top 5 team. Arizona was top 25.
Irrelevant… right.
"Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden
Im not judging programs on a one year basis.
And plus, other than Stanford and Oregon here are the records for the other teams in the PAC-10:
USC 8-5
Oregon St 5-7
Arizona St 6-6
Arizona 7-6
California 5-7
UCLA 4-8
Washington St 2-10
These are not good records. The Big 10 had 72% of it’s teams finish above .500, The SEC had 58% of their teams finish above .500 (with 3/5 that did not go 6-7), we had 40% of our teams finish above .500.
They also don't play a 9 game conference schedule
That’s another loss to half the conference. Terrible comparison.
"Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden
bruin11awp: Would You Still Say That If They Were Going To Boise State?
On scout.com UCLA is ranked 54th and Boise State 64th. Boise State got 19 commits: 1@ 4 stars (JC recruit), 9 @ 3 stars and 10 not rated. That is somewhat typical for BS. In the past few years they have done pretty good playing with the big boys.
I dont care what Boise State does
The rule is elite programs recruit elite talent. Without that there is not a goddamn chance in hell that we ever compete for a national championship, let alone a top 10 finish or a PAC-12 title.
If you’re okay with being thought of in the same context of Boise State, than you don’t have the right mindset to judge this program.
Don’t kid yourself by trying to spin this into any sort optimistic outlook.
Really?
look at TCU and BSU. They are elite programs, or you’re just excluding them because they’re small, which is idiotic. They did not sign “elite” players.
"Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden
Gee, you are right
Let us burn down the campus and sow salt into Spalding field
OK. I’m just saying that pessimism at this point is as substantial a optimism a]in Early Feb in 09 and 2010
by KnudsenRockne on Feb 3, 2011 12:30 AM PST up reply actions
At the beginning of the day
5 were interested in UCLA
3 signed, that’s not bad at all.
You don't know...but I could have hugged you!
I joke with my wife that everyone always says, “at the end of the day”. My question? How come we never analyze the beginning of the day? Just a private chuckle, but this post made my day. LOL
Lawrence Ross
I still maintain
the class beyond Hundley doesn’t make or break our team.
Hiring Seto does break our team and our credibility as an athletic program.
As for the signing class… it’s still very poor talent-wise. However, it’s not a disaster with these kids on board, especially if a few turn out to be diamonds in the rough.
Decent class
Not special in terms of star ratings (which I don’t give much credence to) but we definitely addressed our needs. We got a top of the line QB (Hundley), 5 Big Uglies on OL (Brendal = future center, Wysocki = mobile guard, Oliver & McDermott = not ready but upside due to frame and White = who is the BIG get IMO because he blew up his SR yr and has all the measureables) and got 2 more Uglies at DT(McReynolds & Tuliaupupu) which we can never have enough of.
Looked over the roster and we have 84 rides spoken for at the moment. We have 15 graduating seniors and Crissman may take a medical retirement. Don’t see any early departures except maybe Datone. Thus, we’ll have 16 to 18 rides for the 2012 class which is quite strong in Cali. We’ll need to stock up at WR (very strong in CA) and the secondary.
I like breaking down our roster and doing projections but I’m so disgusted right now I don’t think I can.
Also forgot to add that 1 of the rides is spoken for already
The X Man will cometh again. :D
by BlueReign on Feb 2, 2011 4:46 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
The Torian storyline is pretty interesting
Dreaming of Westwood while in permanent exile in Virginia
yeah we need some backstory...
"Be more concerned with your character than your reputation, because your character is what you really are, while your reputation is merely what others think you are." --John Wooden
http://espn.go.com/blog/los-angeles/preps
says his heart was with ucla all along but felt the pressure to pick usc from others. Glad his dad talked some sense into him and told him to go with what made him happy.
by DaBruins19 on Feb 2, 2011 4:35 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Guarantee
it was sc coaches and kids pushing him to keep him off our team. They stockpile talent and then try to keep everyone from us to dominate la. Excellent strategy. We should do it to them sometime.
"Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden
Apparently, it was his high school coach Thadd MacNeal
Who told Torian not to go to UCLA, and was forcing him to switch to SC.
I’m glad the kid went with his heart.
by insomniacslounge on Feb 3, 2011 12:37 AM PST up reply actions
the video of Hundley on that blog
is pretty cool.
by Captain Leebeard on Feb 2, 2011 5:00 PM PST up reply actions
So weird to me...
…how so many people put such a huge amount of pressure on one kid. I realize we are part of the problem as fans, but you would think that those closest to the player would want what they want. It seems like his dad was the only one who was looking out for Torian. I’m really glad that he listened to his heart, but it saddens me that he was this close to going to a school that he wasn’t 100% committed to. Also, I can’t believe that so many people are convinced that SUC is such a great place to be. They’re the Raiders/Cowboys of college football and they’re an embarrassment to the term “student-athlete.” I know I’m preaching to the choir, but still…
Maybe this is how CRN wants to play it....
With Torian and the Seto drama, get the Bruin faithful near suicidal and then pull huge news one after another and get us all pumped.
Dreaming of Westwood while in permanent exile in Virginia
Seto not a done deal folks
Keep sending in those e-mails!
dguerrero@athletics.ucla.edu
Keep Rec’n Oswegos fanpost!
Facebook it. Tweet it. Whatever you have to do!
Keep up the heat!
On coaches...
“save that for another day.” Tomorrow, please!
Roses are red, violets are blue...f*** $C.
recruting class
If we count Shaq Evans and Brandon Willis, this is a solid class
Were they from last year, but couldn't get in?
doesn’t remember
Nope
They’re transfers, and had to sit out a year.
"Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden
Ohhhhhh .Thanks, all three of you.
That’s good, then. What positions do they play?
Both are 4 stars as well
both highly recruited.
"Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden
Evans will be RS SO...
and Willis a RS FR, I believe.
"The true athlete should have character, not be a character."- John Wooden
sweet
So evans can come and contribute right away if necessary
Willis might be able to play some, but will probably need a year or two to fully develop and contribute.
That's wonderful!
I hope that part of our team works out.
Nope..
IMO, Willis will either be starting alongside Marsh or will be on the 2 deep rotation.
As for Evans, he’ll have to impress Coach Johnson just like everyone else in the WR corps. Lackadasical play from Embree and Rosario won’t fly anymore…at least I hope. And Carroll is going to have to step up too.
and in positions of need
we can at least say we hit on our positions of need this class. Couple that with the fact we didn’t hire Seto today and it turned out a LOT better than it looked at 8 this morning.
lot of negativity at the beginning of the day
but it ended up being pretty solid recruiting wise and not hiring seto
now gotta beat $C
Definitely gotta beat SC
The walls just keep coming.
TIME FOR A FULL COURT PRESS -- NO SETO!!!
We need to build the heat on the seat.
Keep blogging brothers and sisters. Keep texting, writing, calling — whatever.
Stop Seto
sjh
From all we know
there was no reason Seto could not have been signed today. I’m quite happy we got through the entire presser without getting a DC. I want to have a shred of optimism for signing Shannon tomorrow.
Roses are red, violets are blue...f*** $C.
Don't know if I could have
watched tonight’s game if we had signed Seto today.
Roses are red, violets are blue...f*** $C.
KS
Some rumors have the announcement on Frid. We shall see.
"Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden
Despite the clusterfuck of delays
I’ll happily take Friday over today, if this line of reasoning holds up.
Roses are red, violets are blue...f*** $C.
Unless of course
It’s just a delay announcing SCeto.
"Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden
interesting that over the last few weeks
everyone was begging for a speedy hire, yet the longer it drags on, we are actually asking for CRN to take longer.
by Captain Leebeard on Feb 2, 2011 5:03 PM PST up reply actions
Well, that was back when we thought we were going to
hire someone good. If we’re about to make a crappy hire, he should think it over!
"Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden
We've heard what you think, twice.
Thanks for your input.
greg in denver, UCLA guy for life - BruinsNation.com
And, why would an embattled head coach care about
engendering good will in the fan base?
Makes no sense to me.
sjh
It's not like he's beholden to them
You act like they watch him do his job in person and on tv or something.
"Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden
You all make good points, but my view is that CRN has been a PR maven up until now.....
…and now he needs to worry more about devoting himself to getting the job done on the field, start coaching his coaches, demanding results from the players, win games, take advantage of $UC’s hopeful demise, and show that he knows what he is doing. He has to show he’s a coach that will take us to the next level, and not just one that can take out a billboard and declare that his hiring solves all of the aggravation caused by the ineptitude of Dorrell. So far, he hasn’t proven that. I’m right in line with all of you. Seto does not excite me. I don’t want anything to do with anybody that ever attended or worked at $UC. I was very happy about dumping Chow (his $C history was a stain on our program) and hopefully Johnson is a good choice. But the coach has to show that he doesn’t give a damn what anyone else says, and show that he can be the coach we need. He needs to stand up to the AD (he may be doing that). Some of you quote Wooden, and who better to quote, but while I was there, I don’t believe Wooden wasn’t worried at all about what the fans thought about who he hired or recruited. We loved him because he ran a great program, with integrity, but most of all because he hung banners. CRN needs to win games in 2011 or go fishing in 2012.
Errata
….Don’t beliee Wooden WAS worried at all
You are of course, absolutely correct.
Wooden is God in our house. Signed copies of his book are on our coffee table. I started the year you left, and didn’t have a year without a banner. Record was 115-5 as I recall. My greatest memories were rushing for courtside seats at Pauley and $3.25 season tickets – $.25 per game. Prothro was also revered. I would like to see a return to that standard of coaching, control discipline and competition.
He cares in a statistical sense
you know, like how Obama cares about how much the various online groups care about his performance.
At the end of the day (or the morning of the next day) CRN knows he needs a helluva lot more W’s – even if he gets tommy trojan himself to give rides to our players
by KnudsenRockne on Feb 3, 2011 12:42 AM PST up reply actions
Started off 0-2
Day started rough, but I’m beginning to feel a lot better about this recruiting class and day though….hopefully they have a trick up their sleeve and will announce Shannon tomorrow….that would be sweet.
Wish we had picked up a big fish
Either Steward, Rasco, Lee, etc. But overall it could have been much worse. And no Rocky Seto announcement makes me smile.
"Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden
yeah
was really hoping for steward – that would have been a huge get!
Me too
But we can’t hope for a guy like that most years. Owa was our Steward, and we’re damn lucky to have him. He will be a beeeeast.
"Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden
Bah!
In talent rich so cal, I really think we should be able to get at least 2 BIG time recruits. We had Hundley this year, was hoping for one more.
After we looked so terrible this year
I am astounded that we have done as well as we did. If you were a top player, would you have picked our program. Thank god for Hundley.
Definitely would have been nice
but I’ve really liked what I’ve read about McReynolds today. Given what we already have at LB, McReynolds may have been an equally big get for us since DL was a position of serious need.
Appreciate all the posters who kept up the "Won't believe any DC hire until CRN announces it"
You know who you are and you are a glimpse of sanity here.
Now we’re just waiting for CRN to fill that position with Randy Shannon. C’mon Rick!
Dreaming of Westwood while in permanent exile in Virginia
I am with you on this one, all the way to Victory over $uc
'CaptainJack65'
Jack Metcalf
by captainjack65 on Feb 2, 2011 11:03 PM PST up reply actions
i like this part of football
can actually be optimistic, unlike when the games are played
ratings
What are star ratings of the three recruits we picked up today?
by Bruin_Al on Feb 2, 2011 4:49 PM PST via mobile reply actions
McReynolds scout rating
seems low to me, based on what other services have to say about him. Could be because he missed half his senior season with an ankle injury? Sounds like he could be high impact guy fairly soon.
Oh I'm not =p
I’m definitely excited about our future d-line
Wide ranges
One expert had him #24 DT in the country. Another expert had him #5 DT in the country.
Bottom line, our coaches wanted him, and the kid wanted us. That works.
greg in denver, UCLA guy for life - BruinsNation.com
Ya I noticed that
thrilled to have him on board!
How About Sending Him A Valetine's Day Card!
He would love it. Players like to be accepted.
Rykeem Yates...
was just listed as part of 2011 class on Scout.com. I assume he did not meet the academic standards last year. What’s the word on him?
White Helps...Helps a lot
…and I was getting ready to put the coffee maker away for the year. Maybe I’ll leave it out and see what the decision is regarding DC….perhaps we’re serving coffee after all.
i think at this point
closing means winning ball games.
just sayin.
by Captain Leebeard on Feb 2, 2011 5:04 PM PST up reply actions
With all that's been said and done
I can finally take a deep breath knowing that we’ve landed a solid recruiting class that fills our needs. Like many of you, I was stressing out all day following the storylines, but with the talent that we already have (hopefully) starting to reach their potential, a stud QB and a new OC, I can’t help but feel optimistic about next year, though a cautious optimism at that.
As for the DC position, and for any other problems we may have with the administration/coaches/pauley project/etc. etc. which yes, I know is a big deal, I think I have to go with Rick on this one.
Let’s put all of that aside for now and deal with it tomorrow. For today let’s make this about the new recruits and welcoming them to the Bruin family.
And also about beating $UC tonight
GO BRUINS!
I'm liking this Jacob Brendel. I like the idea of having another center available.
This is the young man who said early he was coming here because he didn’t want to be a distraction for his team in his last season in high school. Welcome!
No Seto, Getting White Back, Solid Recruiting Class and
BEATING $C tonight, all in all, not a bad night!
GO BRUINS!
Average star rating of this class is 2.79
which would be the lowest average since 2004 (2.77).
By average star rating, we are ranked 7th in the Pac 12. 41st in the country.
Just the facts.
Hate to quote a suc homer
but Petro’s is absolutely convinced that CRN couldn’t survive the hailstorm of criticism if he hired Seto…a guy “less qualified” than the guy he fired.
Petros is right...
and although he is a $UC homer, he also said before anyone else that MJD would be a better back in the NFL than Bush – very true words. Petros is a very tolerable $UC homer and actually gets it right sometimes. Besides, he is funny as shit!
I think he is too
…his reasoning was sound and he said it after the interview with Rick on his show this afternoon. Bet they talked during the commercials about it…
I don't listen to him on the radio
but the times I’ve heard Petros on games I’ve actually liked him – he’ll call a good play good, and a bad play bad, despite the jersey.
Roses are red, violets are blue...f*** $C.
Did you guys hear CRN with Petros at 3:35 PM on 570 today (Wed)?
I loved when Petros asked CRN about Seto and told CRN that Seto is unqualified for the position as having no 3-4 experience and I believe he also mentioned the 4-3 defense. An ambulance went by and I missed part of that conversation. CRN also sidestepped discussing his son’s status.
I was really surprised Petros made the negative comment about Seto. Sorry I got into this discussion so late.
that's a bit dubious though
should he not add on those project kids and hold the scholarships just so the average star rating is higher?
True, but
They didn’t include them in last year’s rankings. Thus we’re being judged without them, but still getting them. Not exactly the fairest method.
"Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden
Are there any more recruits
out there that could potentially be signing with us that we should keep our eye on? Or are we done?
In the midst of my preparation for Hari Kari
White flips, and there’s a chance Seto doesn’t get the nod? Man if the B Ball team takes care of bis the wife could be in for a surprise tonight! :)
"Success is never final, Failure is never fatal. It's Courage that count's" - John Wooden.
by TheUclan on Feb 2, 2011 5:13 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
CRN was on ESPN Mason & Ireland show and talked about his son, Jerry...
They had talked at length about where Jerry would go, especially since Hundley is in the same class meaning Jerry probably won’t see much playing time.
CRN said that they ruled out Colorado since CRN didn’t want to coach against him. One of the hosts commented later how tough it would be for CRN to have to OK or plan blitzes against his son. Interesting.
Most important to the decision though was that since an early age, Jerry wanted to attend UCLA. That’s where Dad made his name so Jerry wanted to follow the footsteps.
CRN also intimated that Jerry has better arm strength than he did at this age and that anything is possible since CRN admitted he was a late bloomer.
Is Jerry getting a scholarship?
Because that would be a bit of a waste.
by SuperBruinMan on Feb 2, 2011 5:19 PM PST up reply actions
nah
we’re so good, we don’t need all our scholarships.
we've taken other 2* projects
seriously, this is one out of 85. we don’t have a full class and we aren’t at our scholarship limit. at worst, if we need the ride, Jerry greyshirts.
It doesn't really have anything to do with that
Other families could use the money more. If we need an extra scholarship in the future and he’s showing no signs of contributing, are we still going to be on the hook for him?
by SuperBruinMan on Feb 2, 2011 5:25 PM PST up reply actions
I have a hard time believing that
Jerry Neuheisel’s scholarship will be the reason we miss out on a future recruit. Something tells me if UCLA needed the ride, they’d find a way to make it work.
on a somewhat related note, I wonder if there’s any NCAA rule about CRN getting his kid on the roster without taking up a scholarship (similar to Daniel Hackett)—I honestly have no idea, so it’s just my curiosity
I'm OK with this. As a Dad...
…I think’s it great that he’s going to have his son in the program. I can guarantee you that if I was the baseball coach at UCLA…I would totally hand over a scholarship to my son to play ball for me. No doubt about it.
its not like he is a no one
rivals has him as a 3 star. depth at qb is always important, as we’ve seen over the past 5 years
CRN is a UCLA Employee
I’m not sure of the exact benefit, but UCLA employees do get some financial consideration for their children, could even be waiver of tuition.
by WestlakeVillage Bruin on Feb 2, 2011 5:53 PM PST up reply actions
Really? It's true for Stanford
Heck, Stanford will pay if your kids go to Cal!!
by KnudsenRockne on Feb 3, 2011 12:47 AM PST up reply actions
On Petros he said he wasnt going to discuss Jerry
…since he hadn’t signed yet….wonder if something changed?
what about TE Junior Pomee?
he still shows as UNDECIDED on Scout…
wanting to be able we certainly wished,
... but being allowed to try we didn`t dare
u$c and lame kiffin
I’m wondering how the news about kiffin and Tennessee will affect suc’s appeal. " Hey, look, we’re really trying look at mr. clean over here running our professional fball team." Anyway, just thinking, because they have 23 letters of intent and it’s difficult for me to imagine that the appeal won’t be decided before the deadline…and might the ncaa really reward suc and kiffen, given the further trouble? Seems to me, they’ll lose some of those guys.
And about the rankings and the ratings: with so few scholarships to give out this year, we couldn’t have rated very high. We have a ton of talent I believe, and much of it is ready to play now (the last two classes). I think CRN did a really good job, especially considering the chaos and our last season.
Loved the Hundley video posted above: wants to be on the honor roll and win the Heisman.
Go Bruins!
Hendersons exact words....
“im just tryin to get to SC…ball out…..get that contract and if that dont work out then fall back on my degree you know what im sayin….
HAHAHAHA BORN TO BE TROJANS
Jerry to greyshirt per Gold
http://www.insidesocal.com/ucla/2011/02/white-neuheisel-officially-bru.html
UCLA head coach Rick Neuheisel just introduced two official new recruits: Torian White and Jerry Neuheisel, whom he expects to grayshirt. More coming after the press conference.
ah shit...
i guess O it is for him. Atleast suc didn’t get him.
Officially announced Oregon
according to LA Times’ Sondheimer on Twitter.
I, personally, am very happy about this one. Didn’t want to see him Trogan uni… and it will be fun watching him go friggin’ wild in the Duck offense (exc. when they play UCLA).
luckily we don't play them for the next two years
so if we do see them, it’ll mean we’re in the P12 title game… I can live with that
I thought USC
was on probation. Limited number of scholarships, how did they end up with 30 recruits?
If they lose their appeal
I believe they will only be able to give out 15 scholarships, in which case I am not sure how the NCAA manages whether the ones who have their offers retracted can attend other institutions. It will still be a high quality class for them, but their depth will get a gut punch when (not if) they lose their appeal. That is how I understand it, anyway.
So....
8-9 of their recruits enrolled in school already and therefore count against last years scholarships.
That leaves 21-22 scholarships.
USC appealed the sanctions, therefore the sanctions are stayed pending the results of the appeal. However, USC appealed asking for the penalties to be a reduction in 5 scholarships per year for 3 years, not 10. So they self imposed the 5 scholarship reduction. So they have 20 scholarships to give away, and of the 21-22 that do count against this year, most likely 1-2 or more will not eventually sign, qualify, etc.
My understanding is, if they win their appeal then it’s done because they are under the 20 scholarship limit they are asking for (assuming 1-2 do not qualify). If they lose their appeal then because they did not meet the 15 scholarship maximum, that gets extended one year, unless they play some games with the scholarships somehow.
Nope
close though… if the appeal comes down before april something, then they have to lose scholarships this year, whether they win (lose 5 scholies) or lose (lose 10). If it’s after, the penalty gets pushed back another year. IF it comes down this year, they have to tell 6-7 guys to shove off. I wouldn’t be surprised in the slightest to see it being the poor JC kids they took to help them out immediately. Assholes.
"Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden
How many kids would be willing to do that?
Not many top kids would.
"Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden
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