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Howland’s Answer to UCLA’s Point Guard Crisis: Bring in a Rapping Quitter from North Carolina

As Tyler Honeycutt departure becomes official, another sort of open secret is now out.  Tracy Pierson broke the news that North Carolina junior point guard and rapper Larry Drew II is enrolling at UCLA. Tracy reports that "Drew was officially enrolled as of Monday," which is the first day of spring quarter at UCLA. The news was just made official by UCLA Athletics on Twitter.

If you have not followed the Larry Drew saga, he was a junior in Chapel Hill and quit on the Tar Heels during the mid-season, after he lost his starting job to freshman phenom Kendall Marshall. He was a highly recruited PG out of Southern California - a McDonald All American - who flopped just as badly in Carolina as Jerime Anderson did in his first two years in Westwood. Anderson decided to address his issues by accepting a demotion behind a JC recruit and contribute any way he can. What did Drew do? You will have to read after the jump.

Star-divide

Drew is not only a potential "bridge" point guard between the Jerime Anderson and Zeek Jones and whatever freshmen point guard Bruins bring in for the 2012 season, he is also a rapper:

Instead of speaking with reporters or revealing his thoughts via YouTube or Twitter, ex-North Carolina point guard Larry Drew II found another way to explain to fans why he's no longer a Tar Heel.

He did a freestyle rap on the subject on stage at his 21st birthday party in Los Angeles.

Video of Drew's rap surfaced early this week, quickly drawing the ire of North Carolina fans still furious that the junior abruptly left in the middle of conference play soon after losing his starting job to freshman Kendall Marshall. It's difficult to understand all of the lyrics, but some of the most inflammatory parts are below.

• "Everything I'm hearing is untrue. The media, they talk, but they never confront you. The past three years, I can't undo, so now I'm making all the moves that I want to."

• "They tried to tell me just to play my role, but who's really trying to stick to a script full of typos."

• "Like a horror flick they made me out a monster. Cut the bull----, I should have won an Oscar. It ain't over till the fat lady sings, right? [Forget] it, I brought the whole opera."

Drew's Feb. 4 departure appeared to be a blow to North Carolina at the time, but instead it has become one of the catalysts for the Tar Heels' recent surge to an ACC title.

This is the guy who will solve our point guard crisis?

It is funny to read UCLA fans taking solace in Honeycutt's departure as "addition by subtraction" while overlooking the irony of adding of a player in the program, who just flat out quit on his team in the mid-season. 

I cannot decide who was worse - someone like Honeycutt who quit on his team-mates by nonchalantly going through the motions or someone like Drew who was more direct about his "quitting" on the program.

No one also missed the fact that after Drew left UNC went on a huge run with its freshman guard, winning 12 out of 13, taking the regular season conference title and then falling just short in the Elite Eight.

Don't worry friends. Here is a silver lining for UCLA basketball. Thanks to Howland's latest move, we are now going to have an opera in Westwood (please contain yourself Fox71). What remains to be seen just what kind of "showtime" we will be treated to Westwood in next two seasons.

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I cannot decide who was worse – someone like Honeycutt who quit on his team-mates by nonchalantly going through the motions or someone like Drew who was more direct about his “quitting” on the program.

Bringing on Drew is FAR worse in my opinion. Despite a less-than-stellar effort most of the time, Honeycutt never quit on his team. He never acted to tear the team apart. I’m ashamed that Larry Drew is now at UCLA. In my worst fears, his personality seems to be like that of another Drew (Gooden) who was a Bruin for too long.

Not a good day for UCLA basketball.

by BruinMW on Mar 28, 2011 6:25 PM PDT reply actions  

There is no Westwood next year

We are playing some place else other than Westwood.
Larry Drew deserves to play outside Westwood.
Larry Drew, you are welcome to play outside of Westwood.

No quitters allowed in Westwood.

by Tpfld on Mar 29, 2011 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Drew isn't eligible next year

So he’d be back when Pauley reopens.

by Tydides on Mar 29, 2011 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

This news has me just about as concerned as the Seto news.

REALLY?! This is the best we can do?!

Any guy who just up and leaves his team mid season should be wearing a huge red flag where ever he goes. This guy has glaring prima dona issues, and Howland decides this is who he is going to bring in to run the most important position on the team? Has he learned nothing from the Carlino debacle?

Oy Vey. This is not going to work out well. I feel my ulcer is going to develop an ulcer.

The best thing you can do for your children is to love their mother. John Wooden

by MexiBruin on Mar 28, 2011 6:49 PM PDT reply actions  

This wasn't really news to us

There is a reason we have been worried about the state of program for a while.

by Achilles on Mar 28, 2011 6:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I mean, yeah. But,

Howland’s missteps have not been so glaring as this. Dragobrick was unfathomable, but obviously so. At first any way. Knowing Jrue was going to bolt was something that could easily be guessed, but there was a kind of leeway in that.

But this guy is a glaring example of the kind of guys coaches stay away from. This is the kind of guy smaller programs take a chance on, because they are smaller programs.

I’m fuct if I know what’s going on here.

The best thing you can do for your children is to love their mother. John Wooden

by MexiBruin on Mar 28, 2011 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

worse for sure

Drew has some serious attitude issues. Worse, he doesn’t seem to have the talent to have that kind of attitude. I have a feeling that he’s going to tear our team apart…

by clinx on Mar 28, 2011 6:55 PM PDT reply actions  

I agree in theory,

but he won’t play next year, and therefore, should not effect team chemistry. Next year anyway.

The best thing you can do for your children is to love their mother. John Wooden

by MexiBruin on Mar 28, 2011 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I really hope so

I just don’t know what the departure of Tyler Honeycutt and the addition of Larry Drew combined can do to the team. Honeycutt probably didn’t have his best season this year, but at least he seems to be a good teammate. I really like the team chemistry this year, let’s just hope that it stays this way next year.

by clinx on Mar 28, 2011 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Despite not being actually on the court in games

he’ll be with the team every moment they’re together – shoot-arounds, practices, on the bench at games, etc., just as the Wears were this past season. There is definitely the potential for chemistry issues. Not saying there will or won’t be (though on the surface I have to think bringing in someone who by all appearances is a petulant quitter is not a promising omen), but there is certainly a chance for team chemistry to be affected.

Roses are red, violets are blue...f*** $C.

by KSBruin on Mar 28, 2011 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love how this needs to be a part of your post:
It is funny to read UCLA fans taking solace in Honeycutt’s departure as “addition by subtraction” while overlooking the irony of adding of a player in the program, who just flat out quit on his team in the mid-season.

Nevermind that the team improved this year in the absence of an actively poisonous miscreant (Gordon) or a defensive and offensive black hole eating up 30+ minutes a game (Dragobrick). Honeycutt, to me, represents the mentality of the old guard that allowed that 09-10 debacle to happen, an assertion which is confirmed by his hasty departure. No solace here – more like good riddance. I’d rather a harder working kid take Honeycutt’s minutes, though I would have preferred that harder working kid to be Honeycutt himself.

And by the way, this Larry Drew shit pisses me off just as much as you. He does NOT belong on this team, if we’re to emerge as an elite team. It gives me reason to put my confidence in CBH on hold, when we bring in this guy as some kind of solution. Didn’t we just get rid of this kind of crap?

by MrGray on Mar 28, 2011 6:57 PM PDT reply actions  

couldn't agree more
I’d rather a harder working kid take Honeycutt’s minutes, though I would have preferred that harder working kid to be Honeycutt himself.

I do think Honeycutt’s talents are irreplaceable. He has so much to show yet he underperformed for almost the entire season. If he had worked a little harder during his time at UCLA, I can really see our team in Final Four.

by clinx on Mar 28, 2011 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Honeycutt the player is quite replaceable....his potential is much harder to replace

In my mind he was the 4th most important player on the team last year even if he is the player with the most talent.

I wish him well in the NBA. Sad to see him go before he delivers on his talent but the money is hard to argue with………….

by Bruin Dad and Grad on Mar 29, 2011 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Was just discussing whether Howland has learned from his personnel mistakes

Sure doesn’t look like it.

I predict we will really regret this.

greg in denver, UCLA guy for life - BruinsNation.com

by gbruin on Mar 28, 2011 6:59 PM PDT reply actions  

As I just noted in our other thread...

I hadn’t heard of the Larry Drew development when I was speaking of my confidence in CBH. IMO, Drew’s gonna have to put in a stellar season and say and do ALL the right things just to bring my confidence level back to where it was 30 minutes ago. Likelihood? Not good.

UGH.

by MrGray on Mar 28, 2011 7:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

We'll have to wait to see him.

NCAA rules state a player must sit out an entire academic year. He left UNC in early February. I don’t know if that makes him eligible here in early February 2012 or at the beginning of spring quarter 2012, but either way it’ll be a while.

Roses are red, violets are blue...f*** $C.

by KSBruin on Mar 28, 2011 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

The timing of this seems telling

We were discussing addition by subtraction, for which I can at least see an argument for each side.

But what about subtraction by addition? It’s much harder to see two sides of this one.

greg in denver, UCLA guy for life - BruinsNation.com

by gbruin on Mar 28, 2011 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

He is a one year insurance policy.

It’s very simple. If we miss on LJ Rose or whatever point guard we’re going for in 2012, we have Drew for one season, and Parker for one season. I really don’t think this is the atom bomb some are predicting.

"Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden

by OswegoBruin on Mar 29, 2011 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

We've pretty much established that one of the root causes of the 14 win season

Was terrible team chemistry. While it remains to be seen what kind of presence Drew is going to have here, it’s clearly not as simple as you seem to believe, because the early returns on the character issue are not favorable. We can only hope for the sake of the team that this “one year insurance policy” doesn’t become more than CBH bargained for.

by Tydides on Mar 29, 2011 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

+1

Exactly. My sense is that I’m agreeing with most others in that his talent and potential contribution on the court that one year isn’t the problem. The major concern is him becoming the next Drew Gordon and tearing apart the chemistry of our team with a prima donna and selfish attitude. I pray I’m wrong, but that is the concern.

by BruinMW on Mar 29, 2011 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Severe Reservations, but will hold on judgement... for now

On the surface, this ‘addition’ looks toxic. Now if coach Howland were to actually lay down the law, and play ONLY those players who earn PT, and if Drew comes in and earns that time…. well then it could be a plus for the team.

I just don’t see that happening, and wonder what in the world Howland was thinking. PLEASE prove us wrong, Ben! Please prove us wrong Larry! The last thing we need is some new entitlement program for quitters.

by GoSolar on Mar 28, 2011 7:05 PM PDT reply actions  

A comparison:

Larry Drew, incumbent starter who lost his job to a freshman

vs

Lorenzo Mata-Real, incumbent starter who lost his job to a freshman.

Who is your choice?

Give me 10,000 LMR’s before a single Larry Drew.

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by gbruin on Mar 28, 2011 7:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Of course not

It’s just a contrast of how people can respond to adversity.

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by gbruin on Mar 28, 2011 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

This just has me ready for football season

as turbulent as that football season may be.

Dreaming of Westwood while in permanent exile in Virginia

by VABruin on Mar 28, 2011 7:21 PM PDT reply actions  

yeah. i cant wait for football season too. I wasat Barney’s Beanery in Old Town Pasadena when we played U$C. it was horrible. Trogans coming out of the woodwork. I was heckled everywhere I walked. Regardless, tjust made me love my school and my Bruins even more.

by socali177 on Mar 28, 2011 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

too quick too judge

come on guys, we really dont know what happened behind the scenes. Even if everything that happened was true, you know for damn sure his dad got in his ear. lets hold off judgement until the kid actually starts averaging points and assists with the bruins. i love our team next year. we are going to see a leaner more fit Josh Smith, hopefully RN works on his mid range game and trusts teammates. The Wear twins…the only sad part is that Tyler Honeycutt is leaving. I saw so much potential in him..but hey it is what it is.

by socali177 on Mar 28, 2011 7:30 PM PDT reply actions  

If whatever problems that occurred

were a result of his dad being in his ear, moving 3,000 miles closer to his dad is not likely to help things.

Roses are red, violets are blue...f*** $C.

by KSBruin on Mar 28, 2011 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hereby admit

my complete lack of interest in the NBA, other than the occasional look at the paths of former Bruins.

Roses are red, violets are blue...f*** $C.

by KSBruin on Mar 28, 2011 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have no problems with JC transfers

when they have the heart of Zeke. Probably not your intention, but let’s not lump him in with Drew. Drew deserves a chance, but will need to earn being mentioned together with our current JC-transfer.

by JimmyBurke on Mar 28, 2011 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Smacks of Desparation

I am not in the know. Maybe CBH sees a short fall in guards coming up. Perhaps this is his anticipation of Lee’s decision. As well, we don’t know what’s to come of Jone’s injury. Maybe he needs surgery…maybe prognosis is guarded. This makes me very concerned for next year.

Louisville, KY for UCLA class of '87

by kingslook on Mar 28, 2011 7:40 PM PDT reply actions  

has nothing to do with next season.

Drew isn’t eligible until 2012-13, and he’s only here for one season.

by bruinhoya on Mar 28, 2011 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ah - another one and done.

If we have to have them, I would prefer a one and done of the Kevin Love variety.

by Fox 71 on Mar 28, 2011 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

There will certainly be a shortfall of guards - but this has nothing to do with next year, or Lee/Jones

As ’hoya beat me to, Drew will not be eligible to play next year. When he becomes eligible (Fall 2012 – maybe Spring 2012, if that makes any difference), we currently have two shooting guards, and maybe 1 point guard – if you consider Parker to be a point guard and not a wing. We are going after some guards in that frosh class, but guessing that CBH is looking at Drew as a bridge or at least depth.

And today’s announcement has been a looong time in the making. I am actually surprised by some of the surprise that I have seen tonight; I thought Drew’s soon-to-be enrollment at UCLA was close to common knowledge in the community. I am sure that we have mentioned it over the past few weeks.

formerly bruinhoo

by Patroclus on Mar 28, 2011 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think there was some vague speculation on where Drew would end up

and I know we have talked about it behind the scenes, but I do think this is honestly catching most of the community by surprise.

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by gbruin on Mar 29, 2011 12:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

this decision is so obviously bad

it really does make you wonder what Howland’s public rationale will be?

in looking at his stats on espn they are nothing to write home about and a step down from our current guard tandem, this is just a bizarre move,

by glassbruin on Mar 28, 2011 7:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Drew is not eligible until the 2012-13 season, so next year doesn't matter.

Anderson and Jones are irrelevant, because they’ll be gone when Drew becomes eligible.

I’m obviously in the minority, but I really don’t think this is a terrible move. (And I really don’t get why his rapping makes any difference—who cares?)
- He’s paying his own way next season, so he doesn’t eat a scholarship. If he doesn’t mesh well in practice next year, goodbye.
- He’s only on scholarship for one season, and we have no PGs coming in for the 2011-12 season. I’d rather us not have two freshmen PGs in 2012-13, so if Howland brings in a stud freshman, he’s got a good pair of PGs for that season.

by bruinhoya on Mar 28, 2011 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not sure where

the ‘no scholarship next year’ idea comes from. Not trying to attack you at all, and as I limit myself to BN there may be other sources that people go to that confirm it, but on the official UCLA Athletics site it states he will be on scholarship for the 2011-12 season.

Roses are red, violets are blue...f*** $C.

by KSBruin on Mar 28, 2011 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I got it from Pearson.

But I trust our site more.

Go Bruins!

by uclaluv on Mar 28, 2011 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Interesting. Thanks for the link.

I got my info from Pierson as uclaluv pointed out. Here’s the link: http://ucla.scout.com/2/1059719.html (non-premium content)

Not sure if it matters except that it keeps Blake Arnet or another walk-on from getting the scholarship—because we weren’t looking to add anyone to the roster for 2011-12 as far as I know.

by bruinhoya on Mar 28, 2011 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

He will NOT be on scholarship per john gold.

"Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden

by OswegoBruin on Mar 29, 2011 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Umm, you're wrong

http://insidesocal.com/ucla/2011/03/ucla-release-on-drew.html

He will be on scholarship for the 2011-12 season, one he will have to sit out for the entire year, due to the NCAA rules on four-year transfers (North Carolina). He will become available when the Bruins return to Pauley Pavilion for the 2012-13 season.

by impaulv on Mar 29, 2011 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Eligibility.

According to Pearson, he won’t be eligible until the 2012-2013 season. I feel a little better about that as I feel like Jerime and a healthy Zeek have earned their stripes. The rapper won’t be using up a scholarship next year and will be a senior when he starts competing. That makes me feel a little calmer about this. The team will have time to see what this guy’s about. It seems like with Drew and the Wears, there is also something strange going on in Chapel Hill.

Go Bruins!

by uclaluv on Mar 28, 2011 7:48 PM PDT reply actions  

all three kids that transferred here are SoCal kids though...

(well, then there’s the Brandon Willis situation… not even going there.)

by bruinhoya on Mar 28, 2011 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

No comparison between the Wears and Drew

the Wears are good hardworking kids who wanted to come home. They did not lose their position and then quit ontheir teammates midseason. They did not offend the fanbase in Carolina with their reasons for leaving. Roy Williams was disappointed when the Wears left. The Tar Heels did not become immediately better after they transferred.

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by gbruin on Mar 28, 2011 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I noted that below.

I was just trying to say that it was SoCal kids who are coming back home, not that NC kids are all of a sudden hankering for Los Angeles.

Also, the “becoming immediately better” thing I do take a bit of issue with though. Noted this below—UNC was 9-1 in the 10 games before Drew left too, so it’s not like the light switch turned on right when he left.

by bruinhoya on Mar 28, 2011 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Though I wonder...

if Larry Drew had talked with the Wear twins before he made up his mind to come here, and what, if anything, they told him. Are the Wear twins on good terms with Drew? Anyone know?

by BruinKid on Mar 28, 2011 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's a bit reassuring

Those around the team have spoken highly of the Wears’ work ethic and character since coming over. If they have weighed in on this possible transfer with the coaching staff and been supportive, that is certainly a good sign.

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by gbruin on Mar 29, 2011 12:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

OT:

Stanford laying a beatdown on Gonzaga, up 28 right now

"The true athlete should have character, not be a character."- John Wooden

by firstto100 on Mar 28, 2011 7:52 PM PDT reply actions  

They had also won 9 of 10 before he left, so that has to be considered as well.

No one also missed the fact that after Drew left UNC went on a huge run with its freshman guard, winning 12 out of 13, taking the regular season conference title and then falling just short in the Elite Eight.

by bruinhoya on Mar 28, 2011 7:56 PM PDT reply actions  

Why Did CBH Take Drew? The Answer Is Obvious.

It’s the same reason Dragovic go so much playing time.

Drew now has the picture of CBH and the goat.

And, from what I’ve been told, it is a very attractive goat.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Mar 28, 2011 7:57 PM PDT reply actions  

Thanks for the laugh!

Roses are red, violets are blue...f*** $C.

by KSBruin on Mar 28, 2011 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don't really expect Drew to be a savior, but this is a minimal risk addition.

And having a fifth-year senior point guard might turn out to be a positive.

by bruinhoya on Mar 28, 2011 8:00 PM PDT reply actions  

Consider that an NBA head coach (Drew's dad) wants his son to play for Howland

Even at the sacrifice of a year.

He has one year to do nothing but practice and learn, and one year to play as a 5th-year senior with a last chance on a team who will at best have one other TRUE FROSH pg (hopefully in that 2012 class).

To me, it’s a low-risk high-reward scenario that I hope is the last stopgap solution to the effects of Howland’s down-cycle. With the exception of having found yet another very promising JC PG to fill in for that year, this beats having only a freshman pg in 2012.

by bluebland on Mar 28, 2011 8:12 PM PDT reply actions  

I don't really know how to feel about this.

Unless he negatively affects team practices, I don’t see any huge harm in this. Guess we can decide when he becomes eligible to play

by BruinEngy on Mar 28, 2011 8:14 PM PDT reply actions  

Let's not freak out until he plays.

We’re all making a lot of judgement based on circumstance. I’m sure Howland sat down and talked with the kid – who knows what his REAL attitude is like or what his reasons were for leaving NC. On the practical side, Howland has to get someone to dribble the ball after Zeke and Jerime leave. Elijah Carter won’t commit. Kentucky is all over four star recruits Rose and Anderson – so the likelihood of picking up a top recruit freshman who can come in right away and run the point is very uncertain. I don’t think it cost us a scholarship next year. A year of sitting on a bench to think about things and then coming in with one last shot to make an impression on the NBA scouts and the folks in Europe will probably do wonders on Drew’s “bad” attitude. I’m staying positive with this.

by triniboy on Mar 28, 2011 8:22 PM PDT reply actions  

Oh brother.

How much eligibility does Drew have left? And when can he play?

I don’t like this at all. It seems as if we are bleeding scholarships. I’d prefer to give a scholie to Trapani than to this fellow.

by BrendonBruin on Mar 28, 2011 8:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Were we quick to label the Wear twins "quitters"?

Can’t believe how hard Drew is getting killed on here. We’ve all read the negative stories. How about having some credulity, or even if they are true, giving a guy a second chance? The first day he’s enrolled in classes, and people on here are already writing the kid off.

by Westwood Wizard on Mar 28, 2011 8:32 PM PDT reply actions  

Freshmen often transfer

They don’t know what college life, or a different part of the country, is like. Does that sound like the situation here?

by Tydides on Mar 28, 2011 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

That, and Drew left the team midseason.

That’s very different, and a major strike against the kid. But he might still be a useful addition for one season at a position at which we could use a veteran player.

by bruinhoya on Mar 28, 2011 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Show me how that's relevant

Where are the misfits on CRN’s roster? Oh that’s right, they’re in other programs after they tried to steal a backpack.

by Tydides on Mar 28, 2011 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hilarious

Read here often?

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by gbruin on Mar 28, 2011 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

c

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by gbruin on Mar 29, 2011 12:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

An opera and a rapper - it doesn't get any better than this

I wonder if Drew knows that rap was invented in the 1880s in England by the very, very English Sir William Schwenk Gilbert. You have all heard the “Modern Major General.” Think of those words with rap hand signals and a nice lid on sideways and pants on the ground. And extra emphasis in the right places.

“I am the very model of a modern major general.
I’ve information vegetable, animal and mineral.
I know the kings of England and I quote the fights historical
From Marathon to Waterloo in order categorical”

Now that’s rap.

And speaking of opera, since you asked, we have started our blocking for La Traviata tonight. Good show, if you’re into that sort of thing.

by Fox 71 on Mar 28, 2011 8:37 PM PDT reply actions  

OK, you inspired me to go look

Here is a clip of what Fox is referencing. The quoted part starts around 0:52.

Roses are red, violets are blue...f*** $C.

by KSBruin on Mar 28, 2011 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ouch!

Thanks for trying, KS, but that’s a baaaaaaad production. It’s too fast, for one thing. Doing it fast is just showing off. If the Major General wants to show off, and all Major Generals want to show off, the maestro just runs the last part of the last verse at top speed (“for my military knowledge though I’m plucky and adventury, has only been brought down to the beginning of the century.”) But doing it this fast doesn’t give the audience enough time to digest the words. My favorite – “When I can tell at sight a Mauser rifle from a javelin” – gets lost when the audience is just admiring your ability to deliver all those words on one breath.

And the orchestra is horrible. The company cannot have been poor, with those costumes and all that camera work. But a xylophone? Yech.

This is a broadway version, obviously. (And as Seinfeld would put it, “not that there’s anything wrong with that.”) The singers are broadway singers, and I doubt if a whole production of singers singing “can belto” rather than “bel canto” would be worth sitting through.

The words and the music rule. All the performers is just stand and deliver the words that Sir William and Sir Arthur wrote and the performance will be a success. It’s when guys like this try to add their mark that it just falls short. I think I would have asked for my money back.

Do yourselves a favor, Bruins. Go find a good performance. I know that CSUN has a good opera program, and UCLA probably does, too. Go watch a student production. It will be MUCH better than this.

by Fox 71 on Mar 29, 2011 7:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

I thought about

including a disclaimer stating that this particular version was simply the easiest to find on YouTube and I would make no claim as to whether or not it would meet your standards – guess I should have. (No disrespect intended…written with a smile by a music lover, I’m just not a fan of opera.)

Roses are red, violets are blue...f*** $C.

by KSBruin on Mar 29, 2011 8:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

"Can belto" ?!?!

I hope everyone realizes how funny that is.

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by gbruin on Mar 29, 2011 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Impossible to find Gilbert & Sullivan productions :-(

My ex gave me the BBC box set for graduation/commissioning from UCLA :-)

by impaulv on Mar 28, 2011 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

They are hard to find.

I thought the old version – “The Compleat Gilbert & Sullivan” was a little disappointing. It was still great, but a little disappointing. You should be able to find a Mikado. I enjoyed the Eric Idle version, set at the seashore in England in the 1920s.

by Fox 71 on Mar 29, 2011 7:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Malcolm is half asian?

I wonder if he talks loudly in the library.

Too soon?

by Tydides on Mar 28, 2011 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not sure

but I did hear him tell a ref to go ching chong himself once.

Way too soon?

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Mar 28, 2011 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not too soon.

My friend said goodbye to me at a party yesterday by stopping me… watiing a beat…. “ching chong ling long ting tong.” I laughed so hard I almost cried.

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by OswegoBruin on Mar 29, 2011 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Awesome

When I work lote or overnight shifts, my wife sends me a text when she goes to bed and now writes “Good night, ching chong”.

Love you too, beautiful.

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by gbruin on Mar 29, 2011 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

This should live on

as “trogan” has. Stupidity needs to be in the limelight, like Jerry Springer. Just not worshipped, like Jersey Shore.

"Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden

by OswegoBruin on Mar 29, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm actively trying not to.

He was invited there because he would be better being mocked, as opposed to mocking anyone.

"Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden

by OswegoBruin on Mar 29, 2011 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

F... now I'm concerned.

Do you make big announcements if you’re staying?

Go Bruins!

by uclaluv on Mar 28, 2011 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

maybe he will just test the waters

do they typically make announcements about that?

by BruinEngy on Mar 28, 2011 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's a junior

In my opinion, every junior in the country should test the waters. As long as they don’t have an agent, there’s absolutely no downside. Worst case scenario, you hear what NBA scouts think you need to work on, and you go back for your senior year.

by LA Seitz on Mar 28, 2011 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Based on his father's comments I would guess he is gone.

Not sure why I think that but the “We love UCLA and think Ben Howland is one of the best coaches I have ever dealt with. We told [Malcolm], ’You’re going to be a Bruin for life”. Speak highly of the program and coach on your way out. Or how about "Toshio Lee said he did not think recent surgery to repair torn cartilage in his son’s left knee would affect his draft status.
“That surgery he got, that’s minor,” . Sure sounds like a father rationalizing to NBA scouts. Maybe I am reading into too much. Hopefully so.

by 84 on Mar 28, 2011 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd feel a lot better if his woman friend was a Jr.

Since she’s leaving, he might want to as well.

Go Bruins!

by uclaluv on Mar 28, 2011 9:16 PM PDT reply actions  

Three down years in a row

Fringe 1st round picks leaving instead of playing for championships.

Not enough talent being brought in to replace what is leaving early.

Curious personnel decisions.

Three down years in a row.

These are the problems I have with our leadership

by Blue Me on Mar 28, 2011 9:22 PM PDT reply actions  

Another what could have been.

If Lee does in fact leave? Once again we’ll watch a former Bruin playing well at the next level instead of helping the Bruins make a run.

Ground hog day!!!

"Success is never final, Failure is never fatal. It's Courage that count's" - John Wooden.

by TheUclan on Mar 28, 2011 9:31 PM PDT reply actions  

Lee's Just Testing the Waters

I can’t see him leaving school just to be a second round pick. He can come back and be a stud on a great team and end up a first rounder. I like Malcolm’s attitude – I think he’ll come back. Unlike Honeycutt – who seemed half engaged most of the time, Lee came to play every night – even when he had a torn up knee. He saved us singlehandedly in the WSU game and almost did the same in the Cal game. He’s a gamer. I think he’ll be back.

by triniboy on Mar 28, 2011 10:05 PM PDT reply actions  

Lee is a late first round draft pick

and that’s why he declared. The NBA scouts are impressed with his on ball D and the draft is lean this year. I spoke with a friend of his and he thinks Lee is definitely gone.

Lets hope he has a change of heart after he considers the possible NBA lockout.

"Success is never final, Failure is never fatal. It's Courage that count's" - John Wooden.

by TheUclan on Mar 29, 2011 7:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

who has him as a 1st rounder?

everything I’ve read has him late 2nd to undrafted

by bruinhoya on Mar 29, 2011 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

his family and friends all believe he's a first rounder

they believe since this isn’t a deep draft this is his chance. I would guess if his family believes that they must have good information.

"Success is never final, Failure is never fatal. It's Courage that count's" - John Wooden.

by TheUclan on Mar 29, 2011 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Lets hope he doesn't hire a agent!

"Success is never final, Failure is never fatal. It's Courage that count's" - John Wooden.

by TheUclan on Mar 29, 2011 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Reading Drew's scouting report on DraftExpress right now...

From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Larry-Drew-5155/#ixzz1HxoLhpkY
http://www.draftexpress.com

“Drew is a pass-first point guard…

As a shooter, Drew improved quite a bit from his freshman to sophomore season, but he still has quite a bit of work to do. He increased his free throw percentage from a miserable 41% as a freshman to 61% as a sophomore, which is still very poor for a point guard. The strides he made as a 3 point shooter were encouraging though, going from 23% as a freshman to 35% last season, while also increasing his attempts.

At this stage though, Drew doesn’t appear to have much of a mid-range game at all, and his lack of elevation, size, and strength prevents him finishing at the rim with much effectiveness, as shown by the fact that he connected on only 43% of his field goal attempts in the basket area. Becoming more reliable on mid-range jumpers off the dribble and establishing a teardrop shot in the lane would really enhance Drew’s game on the offensive end, as he was pretty inefficient last season for the most part.

Physically, Drew is fairly limited, as he’s a bit on the small side at 6’0" with a slender build. He has good lateral quickness on the defensive end though, allowing him to pressure the ball keep his man in front of him, but his lack of size and strength prevents him from effectively challenging some jumpers and hurts him in the paint on dribble penetration against bigger guards."

My personal comments: Despite the attitude concerns, I think it’s a good pickup for us in terms us giving us a temporary point guard solution when Zeke & JA is gone. Howland has not been able to recruit a top tier PG and Drew may buy us 1 year.

by xXaerox on Mar 28, 2011 10:35 PM PDT reply actions  

This is a stopgap, backup plan

If Howland had gotten Josiah Turner or Jahii Carson to enroll as a freshman this fall, he would have had a soph ready to take over at PG in 2012-13. He did not get them, so now he has a 5th year senior to provide some experience at the position. We’d rather have the frosh, but this could end up being a savvy plan B that gives us a much better chance to succeed in 2012-13 than if we’d had brought in 2 freshmen that year. It also hedges against the likelihood that we would not be able to convince two point guards to sign this fall.

Reports of he left UNC are disconcerting, but as they say there are two sides to every story, and I have no inside info, so I won’t rush to judge him. As a player and a person, 18 months is a lot of time to grow, and I’ll be interested to see who he’s become in Nov 2012.

by GoldenGate93 on Mar 28, 2011 10:55 PM PDT reply actions  

FWIW, quote from Drew II

Via Jon Gold:


“It feels great to be back home,” Larry Drew II said. “I had a great learning experience at North Carolina and they taught me a lot. I’m looking forward to getting a fresh start at UCLA and I’m happy to be a Bruin. Next year will give me time to focus on my academics and of course, train with the team.”

by insomniacslounge on Mar 29, 2011 12:36 AM PDT reply actions  

Not a bad way to look at it

and I certainly hope it works out. But let’s just say that I hope this doesn’t become a trend, because there can be consequences. Just ask a Bengals fan.

by Blue Me on Mar 29, 2011 7:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

my initial reaction as well = "what the...?"

upon thinking a bit more, however, it makes pretty good sense.

the guy quit at unc. that’s fact. but he is a PG, and we need PG’s. zeek is done after 2011-2012. so is jerime. for 2012-2013, we’ll have de’end, drew, and, well i hope there’s an and… but for next year he can run in practice giving us much more competitive practices.

plus like 66 said, CBH sees an opportunity to help out a kid who has made some mistakes, and he thinks said kid can help us out as well. and the fact that he quit definitely should not brand him for life. i would think Coach would give this type of player a second chance, and i see it as the caretaker of our program doing the same thing.

lastly – i’m certainly no scouting expert – but landon drew might be a 2 for 1 package deal? i know he’s not that highly rated… yet? maybe CBH knows something we don’t?

again, this situation could be bad. it could be good. i’m hoping for good. for drew as well as U.C.L.A.

"Be more concerned with your character than your reputation, because your character is what you really are, while your reputation is merely what others think you are." --John Wooden

by avtwvi on Mar 29, 2011 8:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Lets not forget

that Howland has a year to work with him, get him primed and ready to step in and play, or if we get a good enough pg, back him up. This kid came to US, and will (hopefully) work his butt off to prove he belongs. He’s not going to just get playing time because he transferred.

"Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden

by OswegoBruin on Mar 29, 2011 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think we all have to adopt this view

because like it or not, Drew is in Westwood.

It is understandable to have grave reservations at this point. But…

it will not hurt to give him a second chance. Ostracizing him without giving him a chance will become a self-fulfilling prophecy. If we give him a chance and it still blows up in our face, we can take comfort in knowing we were right.

If we give him a chance and it pays off for everyone, then we all benefit.

However, I don’t have quite the same faith in Howland as you, ‘66, Yes, he dealt with Gordon, but he didn’t deal with others who killed team chemistry.

greg in denver, UCLA guy for life - BruinsNation.com

by gbruin on Mar 29, 2011 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm Hoping CBH Learning From These Lessons -- As We All Are Supposed To

Apparently, the chemistry on this year’s team was much better as evidenced both by the way the team played and by the way our players discussed the team and their mates.

Although I wrote what were probably two of the most critical posts on CBH this year, I do have a lot of faith in him. I see him as a man of wisdom and integrity. I like his “values”. When he takes a player like Drew, I think it is because he sees a bigger picture than say, Calamari.

Am I confident this will work out? No. But, I think it a risk worth taking for Drew’s benefit as well as our own.

Perhaps, this is another example of my age differing so much from others here. When you get older, you’ve made the kinds of mistakes that would have been irreversible but for the kindness of others. Once you’ve been in that position, you tend to be a bit more forgiving of those who have stumbled and a little more generous with opportunities for second chances.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Mar 29, 2011 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good and bad

Good: He’s here for only 1 season, so at least we don’t have to worry about him leaving for the NBA draft early.

Bad: He’s here for only 1 season, and probably will be taking the bulk of the PG minutes, which means less developmental time for whoever the incoming freshman PG will be that will stick around for more than 1 season.

by UCLA4Life on Mar 29, 2011 7:41 AM PDT reply actions  

A rose by any other name would smell as . . . bad.

Havn’t we learned enough by now to avoid Drews and Jrues? I also think the same should apply to any future Tylers, with Lamb and Prapani grandfathered in.

by charnaw on Mar 29, 2011 8:19 AM PDT reply actions  

I guess my question is:

Who is a better point guard option for the 2012-2013 season? Unless we recruit one next year who is ready to start day 1, I don’t know if we have a better option.

That is the indictment on Howland, IMHO. Not picking up Drew, but the fact that Drew is his best option.

by silverlakebruin on Mar 29, 2011 9:16 AM PDT reply actions  

How is it his best option?

Recruiting for 2012 is far from over. We are in the running for LJ Rose, one of the best pgs in the nation who would CERTAINLY start over Drew. So there is your better option.

"Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden

by OswegoBruin on Mar 29, 2011 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

We don't put too much stock at this point in the phrase "we are in the running"

We have heard that a lot in last 3 years. We are bringing in someone who was proven to be a cancer in another team, when we could have taken a kid like Spencer Dinwiddle to add depth to our backcourt. We could have also gone after kids like Anthony Brown harder or recruit kids like Jordan Mayes, who badly wanted to come to UCLA (and never got a whiff from the staff).

Instead we throw around offers to car wrecks – not just Drew but to guys like Matt Carlino with his own checkered past. Those are just some reasons we don’t have a lot of confidence in the recruiting and personnel management strategies of current staff.

by Achilles on Mar 29, 2011 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

So i cannot tell

Do you think we shouldnt have taken Drew on? Should we not have a plan in place for a “bridge” between PG’s? If your answer is no, what other transfer should we have taken?

When Drew is ready to take the floor at the new Pauley, he will have already been at UCLA for over a year and half and will have emersed himself into UCLA life, and if he is such a bad person we will find out sooner than later. I would just hate to see someone give him kind words on Senior day for “everything he has overcome” who was hear ripping his integrity right now.

He is a Bruin now. We should be welcoming him.

A bruin is good forever, a Trojan is only good... ahh eff it, just use tin foil

by MaltBaa on Mar 29, 2011 9:46 AM PDT reply actions  

Maybe we should be welcoming him

He is now a Bruin and I think we all HOPE that he turns things around. I know I hope he gets a chance at redemption that 66 talks about.

I think the concerns expressed here fit into a couple of different categories:
1) How did we get into the situation we need a “bridge” so desperately we are taking on a quitter.
2) When does a recruits character become so unimportant? This appears to be a consistent problem with CBH: he appears to be ignoring character in his recruiting.
3) What is wrong with the Westbrook option? Working hard to find a lower level recruit who will exceed expectations?

He is a Bruin so I will root for him to learn and grow. I will consider his recruitment not against him but another question mark against CBH.

by Bruin Dad and Grad on Mar 29, 2011 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think we are missing the fact

that he is a talented player. I am pretty sure he will be the best PG we have next season, so I see him as a talent upgrade immediatley.

You only have one chance to play college basketball. If he wanted to transfer and come back home to find more playing time, can you blame him? Nobody seemed to be that hurt when Moutra or Allmond transfered out find more playing time. Nobody called them quitters. I guess leaving in the middle of the season is not ideal, but at the end of the day he is a Bruin now. Sitting around and chatting whether Howland knows best or not wont change the fact that he is part of the family now.

The westbrook option is a joke. Recruiting rankings are for people like us that are not talented scouts. I doubt Howland is sitting his computer entering his scout.com name and password to decide on who to offer. COaches do not see stars, they see the talent in front of them. He may have been the only one who knew he had lottery potential.

A bruin is good forever, a Trojan is only good... ahh eff it, just use tin foil

by MaltBaa on Mar 29, 2011 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

the problem with the westbrook option

how many players out there are diamonds in the rough? You never really know if a player will explosively develop in a short time or if they need years to maximize their game.

by BruinEngy on Mar 29, 2011 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

2/4/11 Inside Carolina Article gives a lot of insight

Quote: “And that likely highlights the prevailing reason behind Drew’s decision to leave UNC – while his body may have been in North Carolina, it was as if his mind was always in California.”

Observation/Concern: Drew’s mom sounds worse than Gordon’s parents.

http://followthetarheels.posterous.com/drew-leaves-team

by 83uclaalum on Mar 29, 2011 12:09 PM PDT reply actions  

The only glimmer of hope that I see is that Drew will practice for a year before stepping on to the court.

Out of high school, there were quite a few people that were upset that we missed this guy. I hope CBH runs him through the ringer and makes him earn every second of PT with hours of hard work. Drew will be better for it in the longrun from what I can tell.

I am generally not a fan of taking on transfers of this nature. We will now have the Wears and Drew who all left an elite program because they were “homesick”. We also flirted with King from Duke. If I’m CBH, I think long and hard about the message this sends to the college basketball world.

by AllHailMightyBruins on Mar 29, 2011 1:45 PM PDT reply actions  

It should send a message

to local recruits that staying close to home has a lot of merits…

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Mar 29, 2011 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

So, should I feel bad ...

that my daughter is thrilled to be living in La Jolla and not homesick, in the least?

sjh

by Class of 66 on Mar 29, 2011 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Correction, then...

staying close to southern California, regardless of your home, has a lot of merits…

We exiles might vouch for this.

greg in denver, UCLA guy for life - BruinsNation.com

by gbruin on Mar 29, 2011 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not at all

It just means that you have prepared her extremely well to be an independent woman who know how to make the most of life in a beautiful place!

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Mar 30, 2011 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Good point, I never thought about it that way.

I was thinking along the lines of …

UCLA – even if we’re not your number one choice, we’ll take you whenever you get tired of your first choice…

by AllHailMightyBruins on Mar 29, 2011 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have to admit

That regardless of whether or not he will be a good addition to the team, that was a pretty good freestyle rap

by kevdude on Mar 29, 2011 4:47 PM PDT reply actions  

I had to laugh

After 137 angst-filled comments, this was the only one that addressed the rapping style angle.

thanks kevdude, I needed that. :-)

greg in denver, UCLA guy for life - BruinsNation.com

by gbruin on Mar 29, 2011 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

So the answer would be to play Brendan Lane @ PG?...

…because that’s pretty much the only option we’d have (barring an elite frosh recruit, which based on our current targets likely won’t be happening) after Zeke & Jerime are gone. I agree the rap thing was kinda stupid – let your game talk kid, not your mouth – but the jury’s still very much out on this. CBH has a year to watch him & see if he’s going to be a major headache in the lockerroom. If so, he can give him the boot like Drew Gordon & Bobo. The kid (& his dad) will know he has only 1 year to show NBA scouts that the critics had it all wrong, so he’ll have every incentive to tow the line. If he just has a decent year (10 ppg, no TO probs) then with our front-court depth it will have been worth it. Maybe the move blows up, & maybe it turns out to be a life-saver. No way to know at this point, IMHO.

by Wooden_Soldier on Mar 29, 2011 7:58 PM PDT reply actions  

OT: Baron Davis and Ryan Hollins lead Cavs over Miami

Hollins was a defensive force and Baron played at the star-player level again.

"The true athlete should have character, not be a character."- John Wooden

by firstto100 on Mar 29, 2011 8:07 PM PDT reply actions  

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