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#SFatPauley: By the Students for the Students?

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I am finding it harder and harder to justify the presence of our athletic programs on campus. 

What should be programs that enrich the student experience, both for those who participate and those who cheer them on, are becoming "professional" ventures -- aimed at competing with the private sector for income. I do not see that as a proper university enterprise.

If we cannot make the students the center of attention and beneficiaries of these programs, we should not waste our time and money on them.

Don't get me wrong -- I love UCLA athletics. I am just deeply concerned with the state of all of our programs AND with the latest news that the students seats have been sold out from under them.

I, for one, an alum who sat in season tickets in Pauley for many, many years, had hoped that the renovation would bring back student seating along the sidelines -- the way it was when Pauley opened -- as a way of enhancing the student experience AND creating the type of crowd atmosphere our student/athletes deserve. They should be playing for their peers -- enjoyed by their peers, bonding with their peers, sharing a student experience with their fellow students.

Pauley opened when I was a student. The student section went from the court straight up on the Sunset side of the floor. The section was cohesive and spirited.

At the same time, we played football in the Coliseum. The students held a sizable portion of the yard line seats -- they were not crunched between the end zone and the 10 yard line. Once more, we rocked the joint.

Why is that important? Because, student athletics serve an important role in the STUDENT EXPERIENCE. They help kids diffuse the pressure of attending a rigorous university. They give them something to do, a place to scream and yell, bond, and have fun. And, in our day, they were inexpensive activities (actually, almost free -- for $75 we bought an activity fee card that gave us entry to all events. There were no "limits" on who could attend or when.) In fact, that was all we paid for in attending a UC campus -- just that activity card.

What' most disturbing in the student seating fiasco is the blatant manner in which the athletic department makes clear that the decision on seating was all about money. Students out. Rich folk in. That's not the way it should be.

The students should have special status. Yes, take the rich folks' money -- but some seats are simply not for sale. 

Star-divide

I don't think that too hard a concept for us alums to understand. Who amongst us would argue with a plan that gives the students pretty much the same seats we had as students? I, for one, do not believe that we could not sell out our seats AND give priority seating to our students.

One reason I think we would hold on to our alums is because for us, the graduated -- no matter what our class year -- coming home is important. And, being with a group of rabid young Bruins brings back those incredible memories that have made us life long Bruins.

And, that's another important point. I love UCLA. I BLEED Blue and Gold. What has given me that deep instilled loyalty? It wasn't the pleasure of attending a large campus, sitting in large classes or being a number to the admin people. It was the athletic programs. There is where I found a clear place. And, there is where the ember of Bruinhood within me was fanned to flames. I loved my education at UCLA; the quality speaks for itself. But, my deep loyalty was built in Pauley and the Coliseum.

The university should appreciate that. I am on the downside of my curve. The university should be building loyalty in new generations of alum's. Want our money? Treat us right as students.

Sell us out short term and lose us long term. Not a good decision to make.

This decision on student seating could not have come at a worse time for me, personally.

Because, as those of you who read my posts here know, I am really troubled with the state of all of our athletic programs. I fear that the "student" part of "student/athlete" has taken on a subservient role. I feel an onslaught of public acceptance of using our university as a farm team for the pro's -- our students as unpaid professionals here to showcase their talents and then sell out. I am saddened because so few talk about their classes and the exciting academic challenges they are conquering. (ATV is the counter example and I cannot tell you how much I respect him for having been a true "student/athlete").

Some will blame the "atmosphere" -- times have changed and we are simply being moved by them.

My university was a leader -- not an inert blob being moved along with the tide.

I think it the Athletic Department's role to keep everything in proper perspective. And, that perspective STARTS with the student experience. If the AD cannot find a way to make these programs by the students for the students, I seriously question whether we should continue to participate in the current system; there are alternatives, not any I like, but if we continue to flounder and lose sight of the role of sports in the students' experience, I think we should examine the alternatives. Dan Guerrero, this is on you. If you cannot run a program to the benefit of the students, both participants and observers -- go work for a pro team.

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of BruinsNation's (BN) editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of BN's editors.

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This is not a rant

It’s a freaking manifesto.

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Mar 31, 2011 2:06 PM PDT reply actions  

just in case...

That means it’s great. Let’s call it The Bruin Manifesto.

(everyone associates manifestos with communism…manifestos are just a public declaration of principles)

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Mar 31, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Communist!

"Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden

by OswegoBruin on Mar 31, 2011 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Outstanding

greg in denver, UCLA guy for life - BruinsNation.com

by gbruin on Mar 31, 2011 2:27 PM PDT reply actions  

I watched a TED talk the other day

in which the speaker argued that the human condition had become shallow because for some reason we feel the need to separate reason from emotion, which leads us to make poor decisions that do not serve society as a whole, but rather to maximize output in a particular area while completely ignoring others. He used this to explain his perceived disconnect between politicians, who are incredibly extroverted, social people, and their policy decisions.

Quite frankly, this decision by the Athletic Department runs completely counter to his theory, because not only is this decision emotionally wrong, it defies reason, too. This is an absolutely monumental screw-up by the AD, which unfortunately, isn’t all that surprising.

We're havin' too much fun today. We ain't thinkin' 'bout tomorrow.

by Steve Bruin on Mar 31, 2011 2:28 PM PDT reply actions  

The AD is a robot who killed his master and has ursurped his position.

and we are only now beginning to realize it.

The best thing you can do for your children is to love their mother. John Wooden

by MexiBruin on Apr 1, 2011 7:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

and kept there.

Roses are red, violets are blue...f*** $C.

by KSBruin on Mar 31, 2011 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

False Dichotomy

I hate the way this has been set up by the AD.

This is not a dispute between the current students and the alums. It is a money grab by the athletic department.

There is no conflict between young and old. In fact, to the contrary, I think you will find that old alum’s are the strongest supporters of the current students.

Simply stated: We want you to have the great experience we had.

The Geezer contingent is your strongest support group. Over the years, Fox and I have posted that our dream for you is that you get to share an experience the equal our past experience. We are the guys who have said “We are BOTH a football and a basketball school” and that you deserve the best of both.

And, so, when this seating thing came up, the first thing I could think of was how great it was to sit in the best seats and cheer on our friends and classmates.

It would have ruined the experience for us had we been pushed aside in the quest for profit.

So, I really resent the Assistant AD who thought it OK to make this a matter of money as though that were sufficient justification to denigrate the student experience.

Young ’uns, us old ’uns are on your side.

I am really pissed off by this.

Down here we have a saying “Hogs get fat and pigs get slaughtered.” Dan, you’re getting a little too greedy. Don’t be piggy.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Mar 31, 2011 2:59 PM PDT reply actions  

sjh speaks for me on this.

I suppose the student body couldn’t just go sit in the seats and dare the security guys to evict a thousand or so kids. That’s what was done during my time as a student when there was a cause that stirred passions.

by Fox 71 on Mar 31, 2011 3:05 PM PDT reply actions  

I am a season ticket holder and 100% behind this post

First, it should be about students first. And they should have the best seats.

Two, it should be for the enjoyment of the paying fans second. And enjoyment at games is tied directly to the student section. I go to UCLA games, vs. Laker games for example, because I want to root for the Bruins. I negotiate my seats to make sure I can see and hear the students. If they are forced into one “end zone” behind one basket, it makes it that much harder to enjoy their antics. (Trust me, all the alums around me are always talking about their chants. They may not want to stand up but they want the student energy).

The one thing good is the continuous student section….I say make it one of the sides!

Another post in another thread has mentioned it. Be sure to watch the HBO Inside Sports this week. Horrific indictment of college sports. Maybe we should opt out and become like the Ivy League.

College athletics is lost to devil of the dollar.

by Bruin Dad and Grad on Mar 31, 2011 3:13 PM PDT reply actions  

None of this surprises me

UCLA could screw up a cup of coffee. This Pauley Pavilion renovation has been a disaster. There has been very little transparency and accountability on the project. In fact, how they actually came up with this current design has been shrouded in secrecy. One person I know who was quite involved with developing one of the initial plans on Pauley Pavilion told me that the current version is the worst of all the options he saw, and will be “outdated” on the day they open the doors of the “new” arena. It doesn’t even improve sight lines for the majority of the seats.

This change in student seating is just the tip of the iceberg. But it shows you just how little the powers that be within the university/morgan center think of the student and fans.

by BillyZoom on Mar 31, 2011 3:13 PM PDT reply actions  

This must be our rallyin cry!

Students First!

The best thing you can do for your children is to love their mother. John Wooden

by MexiBruin on Apr 1, 2011 7:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

If older fans don't want to (a) show up regularly, (b) stand up, (c) cheer, or (d) have other people do likewise...

… then why he **** do they get a WHOLE sideline, LET ALONE TWO???

I walked out of Pauley only ONE time during the middle of a game — and that was when my then-girlfriend (now Ms. M) got us tickets on Valentine’s Day weekend for a game in 1996, and an elderly fan told me to SIT. DOWN. while heckling the other team.

I was NOT using profanity.

I was NOT making personal attacks.

But she told me to sit down. This was in 1996, a year removed from the championship.

WHAT IS THE POINT OF BEING THERE IF YOU DON’T LIKE IT THERE???

This latest “student experience” pitch is more of the same BS.

UNCONSCIONABLE.

"In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008

by Meriones on Mar 31, 2011 3:35 PM PDT reply actions  

Financial assumptions?

M—you just identified the faulty financial assumption—there are bodies with the financial wherewithal and emotional commitment to fill those seats every game.

As it is, attendance is miserable although it picks up in when we play PAC 10-12 teams. I cannot recall a real sellout since maybe 1 or 2 of the Kevin Love games (when we stuffed the Bay Area teams (and in the time of angst and the firm belief the students and UCLA basketball just got cheated—think about those games and it will raise your spirits for a couple of minutes). Unless we win the national championship next year, attendance is going to remain poor through 2013-2014 season unless we turn it around and win big those years.

To complicate matters, look at the alumni. A lot of old people (I am one so I know this to be a fact). Over the years I have sadly noted there are old faces I don’t see again (big hint kids: to paraphrase Douglas MacArthur, “Old Bruins don’t just fade away, they actually die”). Those old faces were here during the Wooden years and had a loyalty forged to UCLA basketball because they saw the greatest teams coached by the greatest Coach. No such profound unyielding loyalty was forged during the Lavin years. My point, much of the Wooden alumni base will not be around 10 years from now. Toss in the fact that the City of Los Angeles and the county remain in a long term economic trench with a much higher than average unemployment rate than elsewhere, then a logical question is where is the dough going to come to fill those seats from which the students were evicted.

And the foregoing ignores the issue of creating an intimidating environment which when those sideline seats are half filled for the Washington State game will not exist. And those seats will be filled during the Bay Area and Arizona games by their fans (including the obnoxious Zona fan who got into it with KO at the PAC-10 tournament, the southern cal coach and alleged drunken pugilist). And there remains the legal issue of the bait and switch violation of California’s unfair competition law documented by tasser 10.

Unless someone shows me the numbers about how this is great news for UCLA basketball which will outweigh the tradition based need to treat the students as our number 1 asset, then this is bad, bad news for UCLA basketball.

Last add—would Coach call this a successful idea?

by peggysue69 on Mar 31, 2011 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

It disgusts me

That I have to hope that this is AD incompetence, because the idea that this is a deliberate, soulless, money grubbing screwjob to the students is too much for me to handle.

by Tydides on Mar 31, 2011 4:26 PM PDT reply actions  

Neither Is Palatable, But the Winner is --- Greed

I took this Daily Bruin quote from another thread:

“Mark Harlan, UCLA’s senior associate athletic director for external relations, said that extending the current sideline student section from floor to ceiling wasn’t a viable option financially, causing it to move behind the basket to incorporate all students.”

“Wasn’t a viable option financially” so long as $$$ trump student experience.

What bothers me is that they don’t think there is anything wrong with blatantly admitting that in their world the students don’t really count.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Mar 31, 2011 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

+1
What bothers me is that they don’t think there is anything wrong with blatantly admitting that in their world the students don’t really count.

Athletics should be first and foremost for the students, then the alumni and lastly the external fan. The students should be given a break on pricing, because they sure aren’t getting one on their education. Make up the difference elsewhere.
We all understand that major college sports help pay the bills, but all decisions should start with the student body as the focal point, not the almighty dollar.

by LongtimeBru on Mar 31, 2011 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow! This made me want to stand up (in my office) and say "Hell Yea!!!"

there wasn’t a word in this post that I couldn’t agree with 100%! I especially loved this statement: “Sell us out short term and lose us long term. Not a good decision to make.”
That’s basically what the AD is up against, and my feelings exaclty. As an Alum, part of the reason that I go back to campus for events is to relive the experience. I would hate to be a student right now.

by 1BruinFan on Mar 31, 2011 5:04 PM PDT reply actions  

another alum and season ticket holder

I said this yesterday, but I want to repeat my support for this post and the comments that follow. Get the students back on the sidelines where they belong! I stand up, shout and frankly act like a fool at bball games and I want the students leading the way. Plus, this is THEIR MOMENT, THEIR EXPERIENCE. Next thing we know, the band will be removed from Pauley as well. Good grief.

by Vanman7475 on Mar 31, 2011 5:50 PM PDT reply actions  

They've already removed the band from away games.

makes me sick to my stomach.

I always envied band members. They get to go to ALL of the games, even away games. They sit amongst their equally committed and passionate fans in a raucous setting. They see the same people over and over again and develop the long term friendships that make life sweeter. And I quote:

“The band, Ellwood!”
“The band?”
Jake’s appeal is in his eyes
“The band?”
Jake nods; the love and excitement clearly written on his face.
“The band . . . .”
God’s majesty shines through a stained glass window and illuminates Ellwood.
“The band!”
“THE BAND!” echoes Jake.

The best thing you can do for your children is to love their mother. John Wooden

by MexiBruin on Apr 1, 2011 8:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not exactly *all* the games...

but it is indeed a wonderful experience. In the early 90’s we went to every game at the Rose Bowl, of course, including a skeleton crew of us for the games before the fall quarter started. Every year the full band went to the game in the Bay Area, which I believe still happens. There was the occasional trip elsewhere – we went to ASU when I was there; more recently, the band has gone to Tennessee, I believe, as well as a few other big trips. For basketball we played every game in LA but never traveled during the regular season outside of Pauley and the hood. For tournament time only 35 players could go, so it was and likely is seniority-based by instrument – and I believe it’s only 30 now. My senior year I finally went; we went to Oklahoma City, lost to Tulsa, and were back on campus 41 hours after leaving. Had I been on the five year plan, though, I would have gone to Seattle and watched us win it all. If only I had taken my time! We also played pretty much every women’s basketball game and all volleyball games. It remains one of the highlights of my UCLA experience.

Roses are red, violets are blue...f*** $C.

by KSBruin on Apr 1, 2011 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rec'd

Great write up 66, especially that last line and

The university should be building loyalty in new generations of alum’s. Want our money? Treat us right as students.
Sell us out short term and lose us long term.
.

That;s it in a nut shell.
This administration has done little to get the student body involved in the support of our athletic programs.

by LongtimeBru on Mar 31, 2011 6:24 PM PDT reply actions  

Hard to disagree with the sentiment, but . . .

part of this is the atmosphere of big time college athletics. More is better, bigger is better, exclusive is better! Blah blah blah. Go for the gold, hail the almighty $$$. King Cash has fouled things up for the money sports, and the rise of mega stadiums with their own “bordello suites” are another symptom of the big problem.

I miss those days when a big brother and his kid bro could go sit in the end zone of the Coliseum for $3.50 for the big man, and a buck for the kid (actually "Youth Under 19 plus Military in Uniform), and watch better-quality-than-recent Bruin teams beat up on teams like Iowa, Oregon, Michigan State, hell, even Nebraska and Tennessee. I miss the crazy student section I got to sit in the early 80s, and hope my kid – an ecstatic incoming member of the Class of 2015 – gets some of that vibe. Yet way too much of it is culture and atmosphere. I get the need to feed the monkey, but leave a little space for student, yaknow? Getting off the soapbox now.

The Mad Bruin

by lostnacfgop on Mar 31, 2011 6:43 PM PDT reply actions  

Bigger is better today.

This is so true. And I often wonder what recruits see when they come to Pauley a loud, incredible student section, limited to one area, and the rest of the place sitting there doing nothing. If we want the bigger, better, most elite players, we need them to feel a freaking crazy atmosphere like they feel other places. That means more students surrounding the court. Almost every game I went to this year, I wondered what football/bball recruits were there and wondering where the fan support was. Bring more students closer, create sound and energy, the players will come, and yes, then so will the money.

Go Bruins!

by uclaluv on Mar 31, 2011 7:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Very good point.

We are not only losing tomorrow’s donors. We are losing today’s recruits, who are the guys that fight the fight, and put butts in the seats and get us excited about even going to the game. I can’t remember the last time I went to a game to watch DG strut around with no school colors visible on his person.

The best thing you can do for your children is to love their mother. John Wooden

by MexiBruin on Apr 1, 2011 8:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Here's what I'd like to see.

A survey of all the athletic department donors as to whether or not they support moving the students behind the basket. Because, let’s face it, “money talks”. And while anyone who says “the students deserved it” is going to get blasted here, I do wonder, based on comments from other websites from donors, if that’s actually the sentiment of the majority of the donors.

I fear there’s a lot more of these donors who would gladly screw the students any chance they get so they can get better seats than we’d like to admit. And that these donors, like it or not, have more influence than us.

by BruinKid on Mar 31, 2011 6:46 PM PDT reply actions  

Great post.

I wish I was a donor. I’m not, just a season ticket holder. If I had contributed to the “campaign of champions” I’d be asking for a refund about now, based on false advertising or switch and bait as others have written. The exciting thing about this for me, as a 50+ year old season ticket holder, was to get more energy in the building by bringing more students down. I’d love to call and ask for my money back. I’d encourage those who have donated to do just that.

Go Bruins!

by uclaluv on Mar 31, 2011 7:27 PM PDT reply actions  

Maybe some old school protesting is in order...

‘66, I loved your post. I think you’ve got it exactly right.

So this is my contribution to the discussion: The biggest problem with this situation is that the athletic department believes that there is demand for the seats currently held by students. Your argument is that at least some of this demand (hopefully all or maybe most of it) would prefer to see these seats held by students. My belief is that it is up to us to prove your point. Let’s take away that demand. I think that the students should fight for their rights, but I think that we should join them.

My proposal is this: An alumni boycott. Do not buy any tickets for seats that are currently held by the student section. Alternatively, don’t buy tickets for seats that we wish were in the student section (e.g. the entire Sunset sideline all the way up). Furthermore, do not donate to the school until this mess is cleaned up and spread the word that those seats are tainted. And, for crying out loud, write somebody (anybody!) in the university a letter telling them what you’re doing and why.

I’d be willing to move my current UCLA donation money toward the advertising of such a boycott. I think that this is important. I’ve started to lose my love for UCLA in a way that I never thought possible and I think that you’ve opened my eyes to the cause.

As an aside, I’ve been to games in Cameron Indoor Stadium and our atmosphere is a joke in comparison. Granted, Duke doesn’t have lots of alumni in Durham, but if you want to see an environment where kids like to play then that’s a pretty good example. On the other side of the coin, Duke undergrads can be pretty annoying on the whole so you also end up with the Elton Brand scenario, but that’s a whole other story.

Last, thanks 66 (and the other defenders of geezerdom). Your perspective is always appreciated. The fact that you love UCLA is evident and I’m grateful that you have a forum to speak your mind and the willingness to do it.

by Rowdy44 on Mar 31, 2011 7:33 PM PDT reply actions  

I’m class of ’67. My father was class of ’40. We both still root for our Bruins. (I went to my first Bruin football game in 1954 when Red Sanders was our coach. I remember the Serpentine.)

Class of 66 is right in everything he has posted.

We’ve lost sight of who all of this is for. It’s for the students.

by BrendonBruin on Mar 31, 2011 7:58 PM PDT reply actions  

Hey Carlos,

I’ve tried firefox and safari. Can’t get it to take it (even though I’m entering everything it asks for). If you want to try it for me use the name Karen ‘79; any email you like (mine is mageekl@aol.com); and here’s my comment:

“Oh great. More people sitting on their hands making no noise near the court (when they decide to show). That’s sure going to impress recruits. I’m a season ticket holder and the only fans that give our team an advantage are the students. I cringe every game, hoping there is no big time football or basketball recruit there seeing a partially filled, quiet, Pauley. If we want big time recruits we need a lot of energy in the building, near the court. We need to be more like Duke or U Dub and let the students create a true home-court advantage. I’m only a teacher so not a big time donor. If I were I’d be asking for my money back, I’d feel betrayed. I thought Pauley was going to be intimidating again. But I guess it will be even more like a library than it already is. Let the students surround the court!”

Go Bruins!

by uclaluv on Mar 31, 2011 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Karen you need to mention that you are long time season ticket holder.

That is your power in this. I met a guy in the gym recently that was 30 year season ticket holder in football, and after this last season is contemplating not renewing. If UCLA loses your kind of people, they are chipping away at their own foundation.

The best thing you can do for your children is to love their mother. John Wooden

by MexiBruin on Apr 1, 2011 8:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

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by gbruin on Mar 31, 2011 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

**Use the buttons, not you the buttons

greg in denver, UCLA guy for life - BruinsNation.com

by gbruin on Mar 31, 2011 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rahim Moore

Rahim was on PMS today (with his wonderful mom!). I just want to add a bit to the discussion of student-athletes. While Rahim did not speak about his classes, he spoke of his great love of UCLA and of his mom. He said that in part he left a year early because she has been unemployed and when a window presented itself, he wanted to be able to give something wonderful to her. I think this is an issue we often overlook. Sometimes our young men really are leaving, not so much for themselves, but also to help their families. I’ve met Rahim’s mom, and she is the most warm, open Bruin lover you’ll ever meet. She always invited me to join in bbq’s and other family events. Rahim said she wanted him to stay another year, but he wanted to provide help for her when the opportunity presented itself. I don’t know if we always know the circumstances involved with leaving early. I know you didn’t mean that they all sell out. I just wanted to add another perspective of a young man who cares deeply for him mother and grandmother.

What sucks, is that the UCLA professionals (AD and all) are selling out. How can they possibly expect our student-athletes to think any differently than they do. I am proud of Rahim, ATV, and others, who I believe are making responsible, mature decisions while some of our more “mature” decisions are not.

Go Bruins!

by uclaluv on Mar 31, 2011 8:19 PM PDT reply actions  

Not to get too caught up in a tangent

But a big +1 on Rahim Moore’s mom. We also had the opportunity to meet her (actually she introduced herself to Tyler and me at a practice), and as you said, she was incredibly warm and inviting.

by insomniacslounge on Mar 31, 2011 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Spring practice

Love the push back about the students and Pauley, but where are the posts about spring practice, now at the end of the third day. Even Jon Gold only has posts from the first day. What gives?

by loganeagle on Mar 31, 2011 8:51 PM PDT reply actions  

Keep looking, you'll see a couple.

I think this has taken over. And you can always write one. Although, I realize you might not be able to go. Remember, people here are volunteers and it might be that no one went to practice. Therefore, if gold is not reporting, there may not be any info.

Go Bruins!

by uclaluv on Mar 31, 2011 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

We're not your news providers

You have some nerve coming in here whining for an update. Unreal.

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Mar 31, 2011 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

And

there was no practice yesterday.

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Mar 31, 2011 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep

Nothing for Gold or the LAT to have reported about…

formerly bruinhoo

by Patroclus on Mar 31, 2011 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Actually, there was practice Thursday.

Baca was taken off the field with an injury to his ankle according to the times. No more details however.

Go Bruins!

by uclaluv on Apr 1, 2011 7:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

But didn't Patroclus and Tasser post on Thurs,

talking about “yesterday”? I’m confused.

"Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden

by OswegoBruin on Apr 1, 2011 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

No practice Wednesday

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Apr 1, 2011 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Is this a time zone issue again, Oswego?

;-)

greg in denver, UCLA guy for life - BruinsNation.com

by gbruin on Apr 1, 2011 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Here is a visual depiction of my knowledge of time:

"Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden

by OswegoBruin on Apr 1, 2011 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks Tydides

Now that song is stuck in my head. And the only way to get it out is with a bullet.

"Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden

by OswegoBruin on Apr 1, 2011 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm from the Class 0f 1964

I know exactly what Class of 66 is talking about. The students should come first at any athletic event held and they should get the best seats. It is their University. I also have seen alums getting mad at others because of their spirit. When I attended UCLA, sitting on the 50 yard line, some man and his wife sat in front of my friends and I. They were not students. My friends and I had confetti in a bag and every time we scored we would throw confetti. He turned and asked us to stop and kept telling us over and over to stop. I nicely told him he was in the student section and should move if he didn’t like the confetti. Finally he reached for my bag to take it away from us and I hit him over the head with the bag and it broke and he was totally covered with confetti. Everyone in the student section cheered and he moved. Student spirit is what it is all about. STUDENTS SHOULD GET THE BEST SEATS. GO BRUINS!

by Forever a Bruin on Mar 31, 2011 9:04 PM PDT reply actions  

haha

I love this story.

UCLA '08

by BruinTrouble on Mar 31, 2011 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Response from Dan.

I sent an email to Dan G. about all of this. I couldn’t help but laugh at the automatic response:

I will be out of the office from Thursday, March 31 through Tuesday, April 5 with limited access to email. I will respond to your message at my earliest convenience.

Thank you.

Go Bruins!

by uclaluv on Mar 31, 2011 9:05 PM PDT reply actions  

The thank you ought to be in the blockquote.

Silly me, I just remembered…they don’t have email in Houston.

Go Bruins!

by uclaluv on Mar 31, 2011 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol

I guess the computer programmers at our brilliant school are pretty brilliant.

Go Bruins!

by uclaluv on Mar 31, 2011 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I got the same response.

They knew they were going to be inundated with backlash emails.

The best thing you can do for your children is to love their mother. John Wooden

by MexiBruin on Apr 1, 2011 8:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

I never understood why the seats behind the basketball are so far back

When I look at pictures of Cameron Indoor Stadium or Dean Smith Center, all seats are freakin close to the court. Why the heck are Pauley’s seats so far away? I mean, why the need for the blank space?

by notaznguy on Mar 31, 2011 11:39 PM PDT reply actions  

Wooden was involved in the original design of Pauley

As far as I remember, he thought it was unsporting to have fans right on top of the court serving as a raucous distraction.

by bruinmike on Mar 31, 2011 11:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

IIRC, the seats behind the baskets

were placed so far away because Coach ran a fast break offense. I think Coach wanted to reduce injuries resulting from players on fast breaks careening into the fans. In the recesses of my mind, I recall hearing Coach say that. I could be wrong but for decades, that is what I have remembered about the seats behind the baskets.

by peggysue69 on Apr 1, 2011 8:41 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Well Said '66!

Los Angeles Rams and the UCLA Bruins!!!!!

by Minnesota Bruinfan on Apr 1, 2011 4:22 AM PDT reply actions  

Class of 70: agree 100%

Follow this link,
http://www.uclahistoryproject.ucla.edu/Traditions/
and you will see a pic of how big and central just the card section of the student section was at the Mausoleum in relation to the player benches when we played there when I attended football games. My fondest football memories were sitting in those student seats when we beat SUC, wearing my Trojans Pop Under Pressure button in the only appropriate spot on my jeans, and other major powers back then like Tennessee on the final drive by Gary Beban. The same was true at Pauley.
Money was just as important to the school back then, and certainly in the Thirties as well. It’s the attitude of the AD and the administration that have changed.

by uclahy on Apr 1, 2011 5:02 AM PDT reply actions  

Best post I've read in a while

Thank you for sharing your thoughts…

by hicalliber on Apr 1, 2011 7:27 AM PDT reply actions  

Great Post, Steve.

I’ve tried the Daily Bruin link, and it looks like it has crashed. I don’t doubt the server has been unable to deal with all of the fan backlash within the last 24 hours.

One small point I want to make to the Athletic Department is that we the alumni and season ticket holders WANT to be inconvenienced by giving up those choice seats along the sideline. DO NOT try and make it about us. It is your GREED not ours.

(Sorry about the caps I don’t often resort to this.)

The best thing you can do for your children is to love their mother. John Wooden

by MexiBruin on Apr 1, 2011 8:26 AM PDT reply actions  

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