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#SFatPauley: Deafening Silence: Daily Bruin Abdicates its Responsibility, Sells Out to Morgan Center

Unlike these guys, the Daily Bruin doesn't appear very interested in actually getting into the story or do much resembling real journalism.  (Photo by Hannah Foslien /Getty Images)

For the pessimistic among us, it's no surprise that the Daily Pravda Bruin has sold out to the Morgan Center.  In fact, it falls perfectly into place with Morgan Center's other Machiavellian move: co-opting student "leaders" (who gain their "leadership" positions with less than 30% of the students voting) and getting those "leaders" to sell-out not only the current student body, but future generations of UCLA students.

Now, I know UCLA doesn't have a journalism department, so one would expect aspiring journalists (especially in Los Angeles, which is devoid of anything resembling actual journalistic skill or integrity) not to really "get it" when it comes to asking the hard questions.

But the fact that Daily Pravda Bruin has failed to write one single word about the major stink being raised here at BN, on Morgan Center's Facebook page, and other Bruin communities, both on- and off-line, is a major problem.  For better or for worse, the Daily Bruin is supposed to be the students' voice on campus: a venue where young, aspiring journalists should aspire to be like Edward R. Murrow, not Bill "One-Liner" Splashme.  Instead, we're left with a group that appeared more concerned with their access and playing nice-nice with Morgan Center than exposing the frauds and liars in the Athletic Department.

More after the jump.

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Now, for those of you who have been following BN for a while, you're already well-aware that the Daily Bruin has a history of, well, stupidity.  From defending Lavin to lame ad hominem attacks on Bruins who, gasp, had the courage to call for Dorrell's firing, the Daily Bruin has a history of doing the bidding of the chumps at Morgan Center. Which shouldn't be a surprise for a "newspaper" that employs folks with questionable judgment (Rodney King jokes, really?!). In fact, Nestor took, as he called it, the Daily Bootlicker to task not once, but twice.  First, in June of 2006:

Lot of these Daily Bruin writers really are just kids who are so enamored with the access they have to court side seats inside Pauley, passes to Rose Bowl sidelines, and credentials for weekly press conferences that they often forget their responsibilities as a journalist, which is to tell it like it. That is why they tend to write so many of these types knee jerk, defensive, nonsensical, idiotic columns defending the reigning coaches without having an eye/perspective on the big picture, because they are probably concerned about maintaining their access to the program. So just keep that in mind next time you see this kind of "fair and balanced" crap coming out of the Daily Bootlicker blasting alums, season ticket holders, fans for being down on head coaches who have not shown any inkling of greatness on or off the field.

Again, in 2007 (emphasis added):

Comparing fellow Bruins to a known anti-semite, fascist is beyond reprehensible. And it is deeply disappointing and embarrassing as an UCLA alum that we get to read that those kind of careless, reckless comments are being published in our own student newspaper. And you wonder why we call out these so-called sports writers as bunch of bootlicking student writers who often come across as nothing short of uninformed, clueless, ignorant, and useless "reporters".

I am all right with these guys writing like a bunch of trained monkeys who can only cut and paste press releases, and use information based on their access to the Morgan Center Sports Department. But, writing like a Bill Plascke, making assertions not based on reality and without facts, doesn't give an individual who presents himself as a UCLA student the license to compare his fellow Bruins to a known facist and anti-semite.

Is it any surprise that Nestor saw this kind of subservience to Morgan Center years before this student seating fiasco broke?

He followed up with another shot at the "journalists" in Kerckhoff Hall (emphasis added):

But, at this point, it would be prudent for Ben Azar and his editor to issue some sort of apology to DD and other Dorrell critics for making that LaRouche comparison. Otherwise, it won’t help them much to undercut the perception that they have turned our campus newspaper into nothing but a Bootlicking news source parroting the company line.

Morgan Center rolls out a short-sightedbait-and-switch "plan" to "enhance" the student experience by banishing the student section to the baseline (despite the fact that students had a bigger sideline section when Coach Wooden was the man-in-charge) and the reaction is overwhelmingly negative.  Despite that, the Daily Bruin has been absolutely silent on this student seating fiasco.  Maybe Nestor was right years ago: the Daily Bruin has turned into nothing but a bootlicking group of chumps.

You'll see no hard questions from the Daily Bruin.  Apparently, they leave that up to upset alums to do directly at Morgan Center's Facebook page (where Morgan Center is selectively "answering" posts and ignoring the ones that pose the tough questions we've been asking at BN).

Now, peggysue69 jumped on the Daily Bruin first, calling them out for selling out their readership (the student body, err I mean, the minority of students who actually use it for more than the crossword puzzle):

The Daily Bruin reporters, Ms. Hill and Mr. Bigknife need to understand just because some dude with a title says something that doesn’t make it true.  I could get snide but I refuse to do that to students.  When I was at UCLA, I made a habit of learning  from my mistakes. I hope the  Daily Bruin reporters, Ms. Hill and Mr. Bigknife take another look at what happened and change their views and protect the students and UCLA basketball. 

And I hope the Daily Bruin staff will cover the carefully measured expressions of displeasure, viz.,outrage, from the loyal Bruins who have gone on before them.

Well, since student "leaders" at USAC and the Den were too busy selling their peers out for Dan G.'s thirty pieces of silver, we at BN hoped that the Daily Bruin's reporters and editors would have stepped up and covered the outpouring of anger and disgust at Morgan Center, not only for their idiotic decision to banish the student section to the baseline, but for the slimy, underhanded, morally reprehensible way they did it.

Fortunately, not all of the students are blind to the Daily Bruin's lack of journalistic integrity on this story:

I don't know what other students think...

but I do know if Daily Bruin does not write up another article detailing all the controversies surrounding this issue, students might be fooled into thinking that it was the students’ decision to be removed from sideline. When I was reading the article, for a second I thought being moved to behind basket could actually be a good thing. Because The Den and USAC said so, and I always thought that they are students first. But of course I used my brain a little longer and read some more articles on Bruins Nation to confirm that I’m not crazy for thinking that Daily Bruin just wrote a piece of crap and expected me to buy it.

I’m confident in our student body. I just think it’ll take some time for everyone to be properly informed before we start taking actions.

by clinx on Apr 3, 2011 2:37 PM PDT

Unfortunately, two weeks has passed since peggysue69 called out the Daily Bruin.  And thus far, it looks like they're more concerned with being the Daily Pravda instead for Morgan Center, only putting up soft coverage of sports without a single mention of the half-ass Pauley renovation or the furor surrounding the student section fiasco.

What's even more concerning is that the Daily Pravda is certainly capable of covering scandal and outrage: right now, the Daily Pravda has on its online home page coverage of UCLA law students' protest over a controversial, xenophobic comment a UCLA law professor posted on his personal blog.  In other words, the Daily Pravda has no problem giving press to the protest of a small number of students (UCLA's law students, which comprise approx. 900-1000 students out of UCLA's 38,000+ total), yet they can't say a single word about Morgan Center's underhanded scheme to rob not only current students', but future generations' (and hence, untold thousands upon thousands of UCLA students), sideline student seating, a staple of UCLA basketball since Coach's days.

In short, the Daily Pravda Bruin has completely abdicated its journalistic responsibility.

But all hope isn't lost.  There is still time for the kids at the Daily Bruin to get it right.  We know they have the potential to eventually come around to common sense, so we at BN are going to hold on to the hope that the Daily Bruin will look around and see the outrage at what Morgan Center is doing and that they'll find the courage and conviction to chase down Morgan Center, borrow a play out of the Edward R. Murrow playbook, and start asking the hacks (Dan "Fiddlin' Nero" Guerrero and Mark "I Make Jayson Blair, Bill Clinton, and Richard Nixon Look Like Lying Amateurs" Harlan)  at Morgan Center the tough questions.

Come on Daily Bruin: stop acting like Morgan Center's Pravda and get to work.

GO BRUINS

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Powerful Post -- Transcends the Local Issue

I despair for all journalism. The things that are written about the Daily Bruin, all of which are true, can also be written about much of our media — both in the sports world and in general.

What’s so disheartening is that one’s idealism is greatest while in school. It takes strength to hold onto it in the “real world”.

These kids will go forward with little moral compass or reportorial skills.

I’m saddened because I grew up respecting the great journalists of my day — the people who asked the hard questions, dug for the facts and would not be intimidated.

If writers will not take on Morgan Center, today, who will take on the next Joseph McCarthy? Who will run the risk of pissing off the White House to protect us from Watergate Politics?

Going to Morgan Center for information on this story, and not challenging it, is like using Sheriff Bull Connor as the exclusive source for a story on the Civil Rights movement.

(And, BTW — it is great to read Nestor’s strong posts on the Daily Bruin. They, too, transcend the current problem.)

sjh

by Class of 66 on Apr 17, 2011 9:34 AM PDT reply actions  

Change must come from the bottom up

Traditional media is now an obstacle to change. Journalists no longer ask hard questions, but instead let people spout off lies with no accountability, and counter-arguments that call out the obvious lies are just presented as a “different point of view.” Just look at Glenn Beck – he could have said the sky was green and the media would have kept giving him that platform to spread that “different point of view.”

Glenn Beck’s show on Fox was cancelled not because of how ridiculous his content was, but because grassroot activist groups contacted advertisers and forced them to stop advertising on his show or face a boycott. We need a similar ground-up movement at UCLA. We need people to flyer on bruinwalk to spread the word among the students and explain how damaging the move is. It’s not easy (given how many activists and flyers there are already), but that’s the only way we can expect anything to come out of this.

by Objection Penguin on Apr 17, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

And they banned me because they were losing an argument

Here is Marc Dellins’ lame justification in an email to me:

“After checking with our people working with the Facebook page, I found that you are the only person to be banned from the page. I was told that it was because you posted at least 10 times on Tuesday, including likes, and were making hostile and intimidating comments regarding people who work in the Morgan Center. I was told you were also making comments regarding our replies to other posters.”

Never mind for a moment the the absurdity of complaining that I posted 10 times “including likes.”

I sent him a perfectly civil reply that included an apology if anyone felt intimidated and an offer to help them construct a better way of relating to critics, but it made no difference. I’m still banned.

Given the hostile tone of many of the posters that have not been banned, it’s pretty clear to me that someone just got his or her panties in a bunch because I was winning a 1-on-1 argument that day and calling him or her on his or her bullshit. The most hostile and intimidating things I said was, “You’re making a fool of yourself” and “You are underestimating the intelligence some of the most academically gifted people in the state.”

Marc, of course, doesn’t have a clue what I said because Morgan Center’s facebook team erased the evidence like the lying cowards they are. Not that he cares.

by Seth Chandler on Apr 17, 2011 3:33 PM PDT reply actions  

Loved your posts there.

When one has no argument, it’s easier to silence the critics than engage them in a fair manner. They took the easy chicken crap way out. Not surprising.

Doo di doo…(psst, create new FB account and get back at it?)…doo di doo di doo.

greg in denver, UCLA guy for life - BruinsNation.com

by gbruin on Apr 17, 2011 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Ha! It's tempting. But I WANT them to know who I am.

Thanks for the kind words (and evil suggestion).

But using my real name is one thing that separates me from Marc Dellins’ Morgan Center facebook flunkies who post anonymously.

Plus, it looks like they are starting to ban everyone who is effective. I see several other people’s posts are missing now, too.

by Seth Chandler on Apr 17, 2011 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

You should.

and call yourself Ceth Shandler.

"Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden

by OswegoBruin on Apr 17, 2011 7:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'll like it

but only 9 times a day, so I can continue the next

greg in denver, UCLA guy for life - BruinsNation.com

by gbruin on Apr 17, 2011 7:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seth, I Too Loved Your Posts

And found them well thought out and respectful. I, too, believe you were “banned” because they either did not want to deal with the substance of your arguments or could not.

I’m not sure what bothers me more, the initial decision on the seating OR the fact that the arm of a university would censor dissent in such a heavy handed way.

This is a university, damn it — the place where open dialogues are the foundation of the core mission.

Shame on you Marc Dellins. Shame.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Apr 17, 2011 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Problem is, people like Marc Dellins don't see themselves as part of a university.

They see themselves as part of a sports-entertainment business. And they believe students should sit in cattle class so that they can give the business class seats to people who pay more.

Thanks for the kind words.

by Seth Chandler on Apr 17, 2011 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Steve, my memory is having a geezer moment

What was the name of the area just outtside Kerckhorff where the FSM guys and all the other guys had their speeches. It was the recognized bastion of free speech on campus?

Anyway, I hope that soap box is still there. It’s time for Seth (who I include in my group of heroic people) can make a stand for what is right.

What I don’t understand is that the efforts to sweep the story under the rug is now a bigger story than the banishment of students to Siberia. Nixon was absolutely correct. Watergate was a second rate burglary, or whatever he said. The story was the coverup. The coverup is always a bigger story. The fishwrap should be all over this, because it lets them write more negative stuff about UCLA.

It’s time to announce and publicize the boycott.

by Fox 71 on Apr 17, 2011 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was there

in the early 90’s at least, although now the pre-geezer symptom of not remembering the name either is really irritating me!

Roses are red, violets are blue...f*** $C.

by KSBruin on Apr 18, 2011 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Therein lies the problem

Business is cyclical.

School spirit isn’t.

They run the program like a business, no wonder people don’t show up in bad times.

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Apr 18, 2011 7:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

I disagree

I think they do view themselves as part of the university: Lifetime jobs with zero accountabilty, meaning they can do whatever they want.

If they viewed themselves as being in the sports entertainment business, you wouldn’t see the following:

1) Chris Roberts retaining his job
2) Pauley Pavillion plan executed with no thoughts on how to maximize value of all seats, not just throw some new seats into the lower level.
3) Low salary for football head coaches that hamper the search for top tier candidates
4) Horrible publicity and marking campaigns
5) Decades of grandfathered in below market season ticket buyers
6) Not being in the top 25 in athletic department revenue even though you are in the second largest media market in the country.
7) Resigning with Adidas without talking to Nike or Under Armour

etc, etc, etc. The problem with these guys is they do function like they are part of the university, which is why they can’t afford to let the students keep seats on the baseline. If they were generating revenue in other areas as they should be, they wouldn’t have this problem.

by silverlakebruin on Apr 18, 2011 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Good list.

"Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden

by OswegoBruin on Apr 18, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

SLB for AD

greg in denver, UCLA guy for life - BruinsNation.com

by gbruin on Apr 18, 2011 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Sadly unsurprising.

The DB has always seen sports as far too unimportant to cover with any seriousness. I’m sure Alexandra Wallace deorated the paper for a couple weeks, and rightfully so, but what real lasting effect will she have on U.C.L.A.? My guess is essentially none. Nor should she.

Meanwhile, the decline of our Athletic Program and the relegation of the students, never mind the Morgan Center’s outright dishonesty and disrepect towards them, is compromising a hugely important and unique part of the U.C.L.A. student experience. It will also cost the athletic department and the University millions and millions of dollars in the future as students now fail to develop a real passion for their school. But the DB has too little foresight to realize this, or just thinks it isn’t a “serious” issue.

They couldn’t be more wrong. Hell, if the students just wanted books and didn’t care for sports and student life, that’s what Cal Tech and plenty of other schools are out there for.

greg in denver, UCLA guy for life - BruinsNation.com

by gbruin on Apr 17, 2011 3:42 PM PDT reply actions  

Exactly

Don’t get me wrong: I love UCLA and think it’s one of the finest academic institutions in the world. But truth be told, I’d probably in the same profession, in the same location, doing the same work at the same salary, regardless of whether I went to UCLA or say, UCSB, UCI, UCD, etc. (a fact I know to be true since I went to law school with folks from those schools, some of whom now work alongside me).

So yeah, I learned a lot at UCLA and got myself a world-class education that set me up well for law school and life. But, the same can probably be said of folks graduating from UCSD as well.

What sets us apart, truly, from other UC campuses, IMO, is the bond that UCLA develops with each Bruin. And that’s a bond and passion born from athletics, I hate to say, for the majority of people. It’s certainly true for me: when I think about my days at UCLA, I can’t recall individual lectures I attended or articles I read in some Poli. Sci. reader. What I remember is tailgating at the Rose Bowl, going crazy in the Den on the floor of Pauley, etc.

Morgan Center is going to do serious damage to the student experience with their idiotic, short-sighted plan, which, in turn, will cost them millions of dollars. Every year since I graduated, I regularly purchase official UCLA gear (usually of the Adidas variety) which, in turn, financially benefits Morgan Center. I purchase the stuff because I love my alma mater and I want to support it and represent it with pride. Future Bruins, shafted by Morgan Center, might not feel the same way.

And, BTW, I’ve officially refused to not only continue to donate to UCLA, but to purchase any UCLA products until Morgan Center reverses its stupidity and restores student seating to the sidelines at Pauley.

by Bellerophon on Apr 17, 2011 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Two envelopes sit on my desk

Both solicitations for donations to the UCLA Fund. In the few years since I’ve graduated, I’ve been fortunate enough to have employment, and so I did my donations as a small measure of appreciation for opening that door. As things stand, those envelopes will remain empty and unreturned this year, and UCLA can thank Morgan Center’s “leadership” for that.

by Tydides on Apr 17, 2011 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Return them, Ty

Let them know what you think.

by Fox 71 on Apr 17, 2011 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

absolutely

they don’t know why you quit donating until you tell them.

by silverlakebruin on Apr 18, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the input guys

Consider my course of action changed.

by Tydides on Apr 18, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

B., I Agree

People forge bonds in different ways. Although I do remember some key lectures and professors, my strongest memories and my strong bond were developed cheering on Bruin teams.

Why am I loyal to my undergraduate school and not the campus that housed my law school? The bond of sporting events.

Had I gone to a school with no sports, my bond would have to have been framed by other parts of the academic experience or by the sheer beauty of the campus and its surrounds. Luckily, at UCLA I had that too.

My wallet, too, is closed until Morgan Center cleans up its messes AND stops censoring dissent.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Apr 17, 2011 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

+1

I’m proud of my law school and the quality of the legal education I received there, but I have nowhere near the bond with that institution as I do with UCLA. It’s not even close. I suppose if I had gone somewhere like Texas or North Carolina for law school, I’d have a secondary team, but for me, my love from UCLA was cemented on a warm fall evening next to the Arroyo Seco.

by Bellerophon on Apr 17, 2011 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Same here.

I went to a very good med school in your neighborhood. And in the end, I got a good education there. But that was it. I also paid them a awful lot in tuition and provided pretty cheap labor for them for 2 and a half years. There is no emotional bond there. I appreciate my med school, but I don’t love my medical school.

I absolutely do love U.C.L.A.. The sum of the experiences in my undergrad days can never ever be approached. This is why I was anxious to begin giving back to them, and in increasing amounts as the years have gone by and circumstance has allowed. And which also is why this whole thing hurts so much, and why I want it fixed now.

greg in denver, UCLA guy for life - BruinsNation.com

by gbruin on Apr 17, 2011 7:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hear you

I rowed for UCLA, and played rugby in business school. Bled for both of them, love both of them.

But I’ve never cheered for my business school the way I cheered in the Rose Bowl during the Barnes to JJ show…or for Tyus with 4.8s left…I’ve never woken up at 3am on another continent to log on to a crappy feed on the internet to watch my business school…

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Apr 18, 2011 7:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

No one reads the Daily Bruin anyway

Not the students, not the faculty, the Janitors, NO ONE. It’s as obsolete as Atari. The voice of the students is much more powerful these days thru different channels (blogs like this and many more, FB, Twitter, etc). Like most newspapers, the Daily Bruin died a slow death long ago. If you go by the distribution bins and on campus, you can see stacks upon stacks of unread papers. Think of all the trees that died for that.

Sure, they still suck because the 0.5% of campus that reads the paper while sitting on the toilet should be informed of the crap that’s going on.

The campaign to fight for the students needs to continue to be heard thru human interaction (word of mouth) and social networking (a powerful tool in getting a message across), and TV media. Getting a real media outlet (LA times, even though they suck, they still have some readers, or the local news), to raise awareness & cover this issue will finally get the message across to Moron Center.

I hate Berkley, but in this case, our students need to take a cue from the hippies and learn how to protest and send a message to the powers that be.

FIRE DAN GUERRERO!!! NO MERCY!!!

by TE193 on Apr 18, 2011 3:41 AM PDT reply actions  

Really?

What do the students do in class then nowadays? :)

I guess they all have those smartphones now…for us, it was the DB crosswords and the Opinions. It didn’t use to suck so badly.

The truth is…I doubt this is a UCLA-only issue. Apathy is at an all-time high, everyone seems desensitized by the constant deluge of information…nothing is upsetting anymore.

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Apr 18, 2011 7:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

It is true

Students all now have laptops and smartphones with wifi access. When I got bored in class, I’d just go on BN. You almost never saw someone with the Daily Bruin.

by BruinMW on Apr 18, 2011 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

I had many a class where my most profound economic thought was a 9-letter word for “with solemnity”

"Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden

by OswegoBruin on Apr 18, 2011 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

*academic, not economic

"Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden

by OswegoBruin on Apr 18, 2011 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, don't get me wrong

Crossword puzzles still rock! The current generation of students just gets them online, though.

by BruinMW on Apr 18, 2011 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

We had mandatory attendance classes in law school.

You had to show up even if you were going to write a paper instead of take a test. (In Environmental Law, I actually wrote my paper the first week of class, based on a the Santa Monica Airport jet noise case that I had worked on extensively the summer before as a law clerk. That was the easiest A I ever got.) Anyway, my pal and I used to do two things. We would either draw a maze fhe first half of the class and give the other guy the last half of the class to get through it (and it’s not easy drawing a maze.) But what we mostly did is play “Jotto.” In Jotto, you each have a five letter word (with five different letters, no repeats) and you try to guess the other guy’s word. This can be played totally silently – you write down your guess and the other guy writes down how many letters in the word you guessed are in his word. It’s fun. My best jotto word is “audio” – four vowels, which no one ever thinks will happen.

So there is my contribution to academia for this year. Go in peace, Bruins.

by Fox 71 on Apr 18, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wonderful.

"Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden

by OswegoBruin on Apr 18, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fox, you might bet called out to Santa Monica again....

I actually live in Santa Monica now, after living in Silverlake, and the issues with the airport are in perpetual litigation. You could have made a fortune specializing in Santa Monica Airport litigation.

by silverlakebruin on Apr 18, 2011 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nestle v. City of Santa Monica (197?) 6 Cal.3d 920.

That was the case that I used for my paper on “Defending Airport Noise Cases” for environmental law class. The case was all about the noise from jets being allowed to land at the airport. The problem with the case from the plaintiff’s side was after the nearby residents got really fired up and demanded that the City stop allowing jets to land, the City said, “Sure – we didn’t know it would cause problems.” They stopped allowing jets to land, and that meant there weren’t a whole lot of damages.

I wish we could get the guys who actually listened to their constituents and made a logical, reasonable decision to take over at Morgan Center.

by Fox 71 on Apr 18, 2011 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Classic!

“Now, I know UCLA doesn’t have a journalism department, so one would expect aspiring journalists (especially in Los Angeles, which is devoid of anything resembling actual journalistic skill or integrity) not to really “get it” when it comes to asking the hard questions".

As someone who gave up on the LA fishwraps a long time agao – i agree! Lol

"Success is never final, Failure is never fatal. It's Courage that count's" - John Wooden.

by TheUclan on Apr 18, 2011 8:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Please, TheUclan - you make me weep.

Please take the apostrophe out of “It’s Courage that count’s.” Please. I’m begging you.

by Fox 71 on Apr 18, 2011 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't even read what he writes

I just look at the picture and nod. :)

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Apr 19, 2011 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nice! :)

"Success is never final, Failure is never fatal. It's Courage that counts" - John Wooden.

by TheUclan on Apr 19, 2011 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lol

"Success is never final, Failure is never fatal. It's Courage that counts" - John Wooden.

by TheUclan on Apr 19, 2011 8:47 AM PDT reply actions  

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