Final Four Open Thread
And then, finally, there were 4.
The NCAA Men's Basketball Final Four begins tonight. Two surprising mid-majors and then two traditional powerhouses will meet this evening in Houston, and the respective winners will move on to the National Championship game Monday night for a chance at their One Shining Moment (the 1995 version is my favorite).
I want to introduce tonight's games with a really interesting perspective that BN reader rocket rod forever posted on Monday
The new face of college basketball is staring us in the face – one side of the brackets, two mid-majors with juniors and seniors who aren’t talented enough for the pros but who know how to play together vs. two major programs with freshman and sophomores eager to run to the pros.
Tonight's games are just that, a pair of fundamental, hard working, inspired mid-major teams with bright young coaches; and a pair of traditional powers from big conferences with established coaches and rosters full of McDonald's All-Americans. How U.C.L.A. might fit in this paradigm will be the subject of many future keystrokes on BN. But as for tonight...
The former duo play first (6pm EDT). In a matchup that almost no one saw coming: the Virginia Commonwealth Rams (28-11), the 11th seed from the Southwest Region face the the Butler Bulldogs (27-9), the 8th seed from the Southeast Region. Despite their seed, it's only a minor upset for Butler to be here, as they reached the final game last season, taking champion Duke down to the final possession. Butler got back to the F4 by beating Old Dominion, Pitt, Wisconsin, and Florida (and we will always love them for that). For VCU, this is a Cinderella run like no other. VCU had never even won an NCAA tournament game before eliminating *$c (and we will always love them for that) in the first round play-in. Apparently, they really liked the feeling, because the haven't stopped winning, since rolling past Georgetown, Purdue, Florida St, and Kansas to reach the Final Four. Butler's Brad Stevens and VCU's Shaka Smart are two of the hottest young coaches in America, and both can scheme and motivate their teams to overachieving heights.
So far, VCU has been lights-out shooting (ah, that must be nice) and will need to count on continued hot shooting from the 3 point line, but I think Stevens' defense will be too disciplined to let VCU get many good looks. The VCU press has created havoc with the opponents, but I think Stevens will be ready for that, too. Butler should have an advantage on the inside with Matt Howard, and Stevens will find a way to capitalize on that. I pick Butler to advance to Monday in an entertaining and fundamentally beautiful game between two good teams.
The second game (approx 8:45 EDT) features a pair of powerhouse programs from powerhouse conferences: the Kentucky Wildcats (29-8), the #4 seed in the East Region, and the University of Connecticut Huskies (30-9), the #3 seed from the West Region. This is Kentucky's 14th F4 appearance, and the first in 13 years ago for the storied school, though many of those stories aren't very pretty. Head Coach John Calipari has led two other teams to the Final Four, but there are little stars in the record books next to them as both appearances were subsequently vacated by the NCAA. And now, Calipari is looking at the three-peat. Start your timers and enjoy things now, Wildcat fans. The UConn men are the second best basketball program on their own campus, but have certainly had their fair share of success, too. Head Coach Jim Calhoun is in his 4th FF and has 2 titles in the first three tries.
Coach Cal features his 2011 edition of one-and-dones with 3 freshmen starting. UConn actually had no early departures for the NBA last season and returns an experienced lineup (ah, that must be nice). The feature matchup in this game will be UK's Brandon Knight vs UConn's Kemba Walker, both upcoming lottery picks. In what should be a run-and-gun, highlight reel, drive and kick for 3, look-at-me game, I think UConn's balance and Walker's consistency will be too much to UK's ups and downs and reliance on outside shooting. Let's pick UConn in an entertaining showcase of talents by a bunch of talented athletes, and also to give the guys at the asterisk factory a break sometime about 3 years in the future.
But who cares what I think? This is your National Semi-Final open thread. Have at it.
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Kareem and Bill on CBS talkin about Wooden right now...
after a beautiful tribute to him…
can’t believe it’s been about 10 months since he passed.
"The true athlete should have character, not be a character."- John Wooden
Final Four in Houston
Although my head never entertained the thought, my heart believed that I would be hosting a bunch of Bruins, smoking some meat — putting out a spread and then going to the games.
Bittersweet to watch on TV what’s going on just miles from home.
This city is electric — lots of people from the final four schools and some very cool activities.
Next year in Jerusalem?
sjh
How did he get away from Southern California?
#33, D.J. Haley , Center, Freshman, 7’-0", 250 lb., Palmdale, Calif./Palmdale High
looks like they're rushing a bit...
they’ve gotten good looks
"The true athlete should have character, not be a character."- John Wooden
I want the team that will beat the winner of the next game --
which team is most likely to do that?
Which matches up best?
sjh
I think the favorable matchups for the cinderellas are
VCU: UConn
Butler: UK
"The true athlete should have character, not be a character."- John Wooden
Butler just stays so composed when many other teams would just crumble
"The true athlete should have character, not be a character."- John Wooden
The only thing that would make this a better game
would be if CBS got rid of Nantz and put in Gus.
"The true athlete should have character, not be a character."- John Wooden
VCU starts out with 5 straight points
"The true athlete should have character, not be a character."- John Wooden
Mack taking over the game
"The true athlete should have character, not be a character."- John Wooden
Butler might be able to deliver the knockout punch right now
"The true athlete should have character, not be a character."- John Wooden
OT... Bruin tracksters destroy Tennessee
the men’s team, that is, with a final dual-meet score of 111-50.
Women’s team just misses, losing a thriller 82-81
And, I hear they had sorority and frat relays, but I couldn’t find the results.
Butler wins "Cinderella" match, 70-62...
Now Kemba & UConn need to trash Calipari & Kentucky
"The true athlete should have character, not be a character."- John Wooden
Over the past 15 years...
Butler now has more national championship game appearances than UCLA
formerly bruinhoo
Yes, but
we don’t count nat’l championship game appearances at UCLA
"Make each day your masterpiece."--JRW
by Give me a B... on Apr 2, 2011 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Just throwing it out there
NCG = putting yourself in pretty good position to get the job done
formerly bruinhoo
I think Patroclus has a point
It’s not easy to win a national championship without making it to the national championship game. I won’t say it’s impossible without giving it some more thought, but it certainly looks like it would be difficult.
Kentucky must lose.
“2nd head coach all-time to take 3 different teams to the ff”. How do you put that tag line under a coach you’re interviewing and not mention that they had to take erase the other teams’ appearances do to ncaa violation. So technically, wouldn’t this be the first team he’s taken, at least until it is wiped out?
Go Bruins!
UConn off to the early lead
"The true athlete should have character, not be a character."- John Wooden
lol
didn’t notice the similarities until you said that. Spot on.
"The true athlete should have character, not be a character."- John Wooden
I just like the comment...
"The true athlete should have character, not be a character."- John Wooden
Good half UCONN.
Hope the women beat Stanford as well, if they meet. Don’t want them getting any more NCs.
Go Bruins!
Kentucky getting hot shooting
"The true athlete should have character, not be a character."- John Wooden
Kemba ties it with the answer
"The true athlete should have character, not be a character."- John Wooden
Airball by Knight
leads to UConn FTs
"The true athlete should have character, not be a character."- John Wooden
did you notice that UCLA took all of the facebook posts complaining about the land grab down?
They left one that took their side.
Disgusting. A university tht misleads and censors? You’d expect it across town. Not in Westwood.
sjh
Mine is still there and they claim to have forwarded others to the "appropriate people".
I’ve added a comment about Coach Caldwell.
Go Bruins!
LOL
the second one…
UK trying to be UW right there
"The true athlete should have character, not be a character."- John Wooden
I still think it has something to do with the AD not having her back.
The team got royally screwed by the ncaa and the ncaa brown noser did nothing about it as far as I can tell.
Go Bruins!
You could have something there.
Regardless, this is dreadful news to cap a dreadful week in UCLA athletics. Losing Nikki is just unforgivable.
Unf*****believable
Morgan Center incompetence.
How do you let that happen?!?!?!
greg in denver, UCLA guy for life - BruinsNation.com
the Athletic Dept. has become one huge EPIC facepalm
"The true athlete should have character, not be a character."- John Wooden
So with all the turmoil...
going on at UCLA, it turns out Oregon actually won the CBI, beating Creighton in 2 out of 3 games for the 2011 title. And the USC women somehow kept upsetting teams on the road, until the WNIT final, where they lost to Toledo.
And Wichita St. beat Alabama to win the NIT after routing Washington State in the semifinals.
The land grab and losing Nikki occur while Nero fiddles in Houston.
Hanging out with his NCAA buddies is obviously more important than doing his job.
He should not get to go to a tournament unless all of us do. It’s his fucking job to get us there.
sjh
We're going to turn up the heat on Morgan here
and we will need the help of every Bruin student, alum, and fan.
And by we, I mean everyone who cares about the pride and dignity of our school.
Get ready to call and write and post and tweet. And get every other Bruin you know in the loop. This is gonna take a team effort.
greg in denver, UCLA guy for life - BruinsNation.com
Already started.
Am missing the game as I just wrote a very long email to the chancellor (cc’d to dan). Included the academic lack of integrity that ‘66 refers to in the survey and the removal of our posts from facebook. Dr. Block needs to know what is going on. Also, started a thread about Nikki on the facebook account. Let’s see if that stays up.
Go Bruins!
Will do the same.
Losing Nikki is just intolerable. How will our Lady Bruins deal with this? The best coaching hire of the last few years is gone…
Walking past the temporary plastic sheets surrounding Pauley today (after football practice)...
well, it would be wrong, but I really thought they would make a great place for some art. Some of them face Morgan center.I would think there would be nothing unethical about hanging works of art on the fences?
Go Bruins!
UConn loses ball
UK ball 16 sec left
"The true athlete should have character, not be a character."- John Wooden
Wow, UConn...
all you had to do was not turn the ball over with 16 seconds to go.
UConn fouled with 1.7 sec left
1 &1 with a chance to put it away
"The true athlete should have character, not be a character."- John Wooden
Barring a stupid 4 point play, that'll do it
"The true athlete should have character, not be a character."- John Wooden
UConn-Butler on Monday
UConn 56-55 UK
"The true athlete should have character, not be a character."- John Wooden
Well, it looks like the only good news from today...
was that our gymnasts scored an incredible 197.425 in winning the NCAA Regionals to advance to the NCAA Championships, despite all the injuries we’ve suffered this year.
UConn may be about to have...
a very good weekend. The women play Notre Dame tomorrow. We BEAT Notre Dame on their home court, so UConn should demolish them by about 40 points. (UConn DESTROYED #2 seed Duke by 35 in the Elite Eight.) And with #1 Baylor knocked out by Texas A&M, UConn will probably beat either Texas A&M or Stanford (think revenge factor for ending their 90-game winning streak) in the finals.
And if UConn ends Butler’s 2nd consecutive Cinderella story, UConn is poised to win BOTH basketball titles in about a 24-hour span. Which is what they also did back in 2004.

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