Todd McNair: Unleashing Pandora's Box (Read: Litigious Lawyers) on U$C by Suing the NCAA
There was an alternative title for this post: "Todd McNair: Total Moron." It would have fit pretty well, given how unbelievably stupid Todd is. By introducing lawyers into the equation, he's dealt a major blow to U$C.
First, civil litigation is nothing like criminal law (something most Trogan football players are personally familiar with), so there's no speed involved whatsoever. It's a protracted siege, which means the party with more resources has the distinct advantage. The NCAA can slowly bleed McNair dry: it has the time, the money, and the lawyers to do so. The original complaint initiating the law suit can be viewed here.
Second, civil litigation has all these pesky little things that U$C doesn't like: among them, discovery. It means that the NCAA now has the power of court orders and the law to force U$C and its minions to answer questions it doesn't want to. It means that the NCAA now has the reach to make Reggie Bush and Pete Carroll answer tough questions (which they didn't since both jumped ship to the NFL). It means that the NCAA could discover in the tons of paper sure to follow that the dots connect between U$C, Joe McKnight, United States China, a free Range Rover, not to mention Dillon Baxter, golf cart rides, and a certified (albeit lame wannabe) NFLPA agent.
That's all very bad for U$C.
Now, of course, the shortsighted (and often hilariously pathetic) U$C fanboys think this is a wonderful idea. One quick jaunt through U$C message boards and web sites and you'll see plenty of idiots encouraging the Dog Fighter (side thought: what is it about convicted criminals that get U$C fan boys so excited?), applauding his lawsuit, and dreaming he'll take down the horrible, horrible NCAA.
Damn, and we thought Don Quixote was delusional.
Let's break it down after the jump.
Think about it: U$C isn't suing the NCAA. According to ol' Ethical Pat, they have internally considered the option and rejected it. Why do you think that is? Don't you think if U$C had something to gain from going after the NCAA in court, the Trogans and their minion lawyers would be all over it? Of course they would.
But they're not, and that tells you everything you need to know.
Todd McNair doesn't care. He got axed from U$C, so if it ends up hurting U$C more in the long term, he could care less. He's in it for the slim chance he'll get a pay day: that the NCAA will not want to waste it's time on some chump dog fighting convicted criminal and give him some pittance settlement. Maybe that's why Bruce Broillet (undergrad at Notre Dame, law school at Texas) doesn't mind taking this case: besides the national exposure it brings him, if U$C is collateral damage to McNair getting some settlement, then so be it.
This lawsuit isn't going to go well for U$C. First, even their more rational supporters agree that a lawsuit against the NCAA is a losing battle:
Haden, I feel, was correct in not threatening the NCAA with a lawsuit or any follow-up to their decision on the university’s appeal. There was little to gain from a lawsuit, which could not be won.
And despite the repeated protestations of U$C's fan boys, the "school" evidentially felt they got a fair hearing and opportunity to present their case:
A U.S.C. spokesman, James Grant, said: "We do want to thank the committee and the N.C.A.A. staff and everyone involved for these proceedings and are pleased that we’re able to present our side of the events and look forward to an outcome and to moving on."
In fact, Ol' Ethical Pat himself acknowledged it wasn't an NCAA vendetta (emphasis added):
I think the appeals committee is a group of fair-minded folks. We just vehemently disagree with the result . . .
Haden even admitted, to a certain degree, culpability (emphasis added):
"We have to look at ourselves in the mirror here," said Haden, who took over the athletic department last July. "We could have and should have done things better. We had a player who knowingly did things wrong. We are not innocent here."
But the Dog Fighter is looking out for himself now. And he's awoken a sleeping giant: the NCAA has the money, the power, and the will to outlast him and grind him out through the slow, painful process of civil litigation. You see, the Trogans know that all of these discovery mechanisms don't bode well. Ask Reggie Bush:
In 2007, Bush settled another civil suit brought by a different partner in New Era. Bush's deposition had been scheduled for Friday. The NCAA was expected to seek transcripts of that deposition as it wraps up its investigation of the USC athletic department.
Now, one of their former minions, an unemployed, washed-up jock with no future in the only thing he knows how to (half-assed) do, is playing the ultimate desperate play: sue the NCAA and hope to scare an easy settlement out of them. Except the NCAA isn't playing along with his little game:
The NCAA released a statement Monday afternoon saying officials hadn't yet been served with the lawsuit.
"Nonetheless, we are confident actions by the NCAA enforcement staff and Committees were proper and we'll vigorously defend that position in court," the NCAA said in the statement.
This is going to be interesting. Now that the lawyers are involved, this thing can turn into a full blown catastrophe for U$C, especially if the NCAA can get key figures on the record in depositions (Bush, Cheatey, that idiot Garrett, etc.).
Or as Fox 71 put it:
Just think what an opportunity this is for the NCAA. They can now subpoena everything they wanted but didn’t get. They can literally drain the swamp at Inheritance Hall and get whatever paper exists (and surely there won’t be much.) They can subpoena bu$h. This could literally be discovery heaven.
Gtet your popcorn out ladies and gentlemen. This could be quite a circus and quite entertaining, all thanks to Todd "Dog Fighter" McNair, the total moron who has unknowingly unleashed a Pandora's Box upon U$C.
GO BRUINS
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Most likely scenario
I bet a few of SUC’s rich alumni will pay McNair under the table so he would drop his lawsuit! This way USC doesn’t get exposed and Todd gets his dough.
Quick Question
Even if the NCAA through this process discovers evidence that u$c had more direct knowledge of the events than they previously admitted, can they add more sanctions on top of what they already got? Or is it a case where since they’ve already been declared guilty and punished, you can’t be found “more” guilty?
I know the newer stuff that has happened and was mention in the post would warrant new sanctions, but I’m talking about all the old stuff they’ve already been sanctioned for.
They absolutely can, and will.
U$C is already on probation, so any further wrongdoing will be compounding their previous punishments.
"Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden
On the other hand.
McNair could be suing the NCAA to force USC’s hand. It is a fair assumption to say that Todd McNair will never work in college sports again. It is unlikely that he will coach in the NFL. So, he sues the NCAA which B has just diligently explained will hurt USC more then any one; and PRESTO! Ethical Pat sends a bag man with a golden parachute for the dog fighter and VOILA! he drops the lawsuit.
The best thing you can do for your children is to love their mother. John Wooden
Two Thoughts
1. Who is paying for his lawyer? Broillet is a real lawyer who is widely respected. If Broillet took the case on a contingency fee basis, that may be a sign that McNair’s case is stronger than we all think it is. If Broillet is working for an hourly rate, who the hell is paying McNair’s legal bills? I suppose it could be a loss leader for Broillet (doing it for the publicity), but I very much doubt that is the case.
2. The NCAA is not an organization with a strong track record in high profile litigation. Just ask Tark. They usually manage to bungle things and do not have an unlimited budget for this stuff as many might think.
I wondered that as well.
All the talk of “draining U$C dry” is not really relevant, as $C isn’t paying a dime. If anything, they’ll drain McNair dry. That said, I wonder how his attorney is being paid, and I have to say I lean to the loss leader side. This is a massive case, and will generate massive publicity for Broillet, win or lose. He’s already successful, so he can absorb costs.
"Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden
In terms of possible outcomes
I don’t think anyone is saying this has the potential to bleed the Trogans dry. They have more than enough trust fund babies in their student body to make up the difference.
I think another possibility is that the Trogans are screwed whether the Dogfighter has a case or not. I don’t know what he’s suing for, but unless it’s for the lifting of the sanctions, then SUC has nothing to gain and everything to lose from this, and that’s what I like to hear. Sure, the NCAA will lose face if they go to trial and lose, but it’s not like there’s a lot of face to save there anyway, and the Trogans will still have to serve their punishment while the NCAA walks away with a whole bunch of new evidence of Trogan wrongdoing for their next round of investigations.
He doesn't need the publicity
Every lawyer in the State knows who Bruce Broillet and Browne Greene are. Again a pure guess, but they probably get the bulk of their cases by referral. If I had a decent plaintiff’s case, I would refer it to those guys, if they would take it, because they know how to get full value out of a case and I don’t (I’m a defense lawyer, not a plaintiff’s lawyer.)
Not saying that people don't know who they are
but perhaps more high-end institutions might take notice and look for Broillet and Greene. Of course I have no knowledge of the quality of their case, i’m merely speculating.
"Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden
by OswegoBruin on Jun 10, 2011 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions
You have a point. The guy who repped Fred Goldman against OJ knew he wasn't going to get a fee in that case.
Same reason that someone like Mark Geragos represents Scott Peterson
He can get his fee from any number of drug-addicted celebrities at home in Los Angeles, but to rearrange your calendar to represent the most high-profile murder in the nation (at the time) had, undoubtedly, huge publicity dividends.
I imagine Broillet is willing to write off a loss for the national exposure that will come from this.
At the end of the day it worked. I’m an attorney in California and I never heard of him. Now I have. And now, Fox 71, you’ve told me how wonderful he is. His buzz index is clearly benefiting, so regardless of what he brings home in cash on this case, he’s already won.
broillet is also a notre dame alum
he may be perfectly happy to play this one out for the many reasons noted above. sinking sc may be it’s own reward. haha
Across The Face
Who's paying
The Greene Broilett firm usually takes cases on a complete or partial contingency. Their website refers to their billing practices:
Because Greene Broillet & Wheeler, LLP, is a contingency-fee firm, our clients do not pay a fee unless there is a successful conclusion to their case. Our fee is tied to a client’s monetary recovery in the case. We assume all up-front risks and expenses. We negotiate favorable referral fees when permissible by law.
This isn’t to say there is not a diabolically sinister ploy by southern cal to fund a payback suit but I doubt it. Broilett’s firm are not a bunch of ambulance chasing shysters—they are serious lawyers who protect clients.
And as Karl II wisely notes, the NCAA paid disgraced Long Beach State/UNLV./Fresno State coach Jerry Tarkanian $2.5 million. According to the April 3, 1998 New York Times, the NCAA claimed they only settled the suit because it had to be tried in Las Vegas. Sure, I wouldn’t want to be a defendant being sued by Tarkanian in Las Vegas but there had to be something more than a unfavorable venue to warrant paying the coach of perhaps one of the more corrupt basketball programs as of 1998 (all of this before the Sample/Garrett//Carroll/Floyd years) $2.5 million. My point being, the NCAA is not the sharpest tool in the tool box and the Greene Broilett firm may have decided their client can doggedly pursue this suit and get some compensation.
Yes, the use of “doggedly” as an adverb was intentional.
Bite on!
Tough to figure
I have read the complaint but I’m not going to comment on the merits of the lawsuit. I will say that it contains echoes of trojan apologist arguments like using “convicted felon” to describe Lake. That works and all but isn’t McNair a convicted criminal himself? Just wondering.
The fact that Broillet has taken the case in the context of whether it is strong or weak, is irrelevant. It’s all upside. If the NCAA wants to avoid publicity—and there sure has been a lot of that lately—it settles. Attorney gets paid. If McNair wins, attorney gets paid. If McNair loses, we have all heard about Broillet. Free advertising, attorney gets paid.
I don’t see how usc wins in any scenario coming out of this. The fanboys are really deluding themselves if they think that this is good for the school.
For informative purposes only. I am not anyone’s attorney by way of posting this.
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by Bruins102NCAA on Jun 9, 2011 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Agree
Not good under any scenario for southern cal.
It's likely that it's a contingency fee case.
Broillet probably charges more than $500 an hour when he does hourly work (purely a guess, but based on some knowledge of what highly skilled lawyers charge, and Broillet is a very, very VERY good lawyer). I doubt if an unemployed ex-position coach could pay Broillet’s hourly rate.
Again, I emphasize that this is purely a guess. I have no greater insight here than any other spectator.
Maybe Larry Scott will be a witness for McNair
He is still talking about “alleged” violations.
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by OswegoBruin on Jun 10, 2011 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions



















