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UPDATED: The Ups and Downs of UCLA Basketball

I will have a more complete and positive update Saturday on the UCLA basketball team players but right now I have a more immediate and not positive update on two players.  Both of these players have suffered serious ups and downs in their UCLA careers. 

First, Jerime Anderson was arrested last night, from the official UCLA site:

UCLA men's basketball player Jerime Anderson has been suspended indefinitely from all team activities and at least the 2011-12 season-opener against Loyola Marymount (Nov. 11) following his arrest Tuesday (July 26) evening.

Anderson, a senior point guard, was arrested on campus by University Police and was charged with suspicion of grand theft in connection with the theft of a laptop.

"This is a disappointing and unfortunate situation for Jerime," said head coach Ben Howland. "We have a high standard and code of conduct that our student-athletes are expected to follow. He knows that he has made a huge mistake and that he has not represented himself, our program or UCLA in a manner that is required."

Two thoughts:

First, CBH dealt with this immediately and appropriately IMO:

What's interesting to point out in this case is Howland's immediate reaction to the arrest. Unlike, say, Jim Boeheim, who has chosen to lay low while Fab Melo's legal battle drifts out over a domestic disturbance case. Some coaches choose to make decisions immediately. I give credit to Howland for going with this choice first and leaving almost every possibility for further punishment open. Not an easy -- or even necessary -- call to make right now. But Howland, who is on the recruiting trail as we speak, made the decision immediately.

Consider it a message from afar that was heard loud and clear by all of his players.

Second, Anderson has had off-season issues, albeit less serious issues, before.  He admitted last year he wasted the summer between his freshman and sophomore years, but to his credit worked hard last summer.  Then this summer, this happens.  This is very disconcerting and hopefully it is all a misunderstanding.

More after the jump.

Star-divide

 

The second less serious development is Josh Smith's weight.  Smith has gained weight since last year.

Even by the relative standards of Division I basketball players, UCLA center Josh Smith is a big, big dude. In many ways, this is an advantage. Smith's girth allows him to push defenders into uncomfortable positions on the low block, which allows him compensate for any perceived disadvantages in the vertical leap department. Put more simply: He leans on people. And quite often, it works. . . .

But there is such a thing as being too big. Smith was listed at 6-foot-10, 305 pounds as a freshman last season, and weight measurement is almost certainly on the generous side. (Don't judge; you know you dropped 15 pounds off your frame at the DMV. I'm onto you.) Smith's game would benefit from trimming down and turning some of that mass into muscle.

Unfortunately, that doesn't seem to be happening. Instead, as Ben Howland told CBS's Gary Parrish yesterday, Smith has actually gained weight in the offseason:


. . . I won't lie: It makes me feel weird to write about this, because I don't really like to criticize people for their appearance. But this isn't about appearance so much as productivity, about the amazing potential the UCLA sophomore -- who has the intuitively soft hands of a much smaller player -- has flashed in his first performances on the collegiate level.

Unlike Anderson, Smith problem is more about reaching potential and he does have time

"Right now, he's about 10 pounds over where he was last season," Howland told CBS Sports on Tuesday.

. . . Smith still has time -- 2 1/2 months until to preseason practices begin -- to drop the weight, but Howland obviously can't be happy about his budding star's offseason work to date.

Josh dedicated himself to losing weight last year and CBH famously would not even let him touch a basketball.  Smith can do it if he puts his mind to it.

However, if the criminal allegations are proven true, a criminal Anderson will not play for UCLA.  It would be a sad ending to a career that was set for redemption.  Smith, on the other hand, is a good player even if he is heavy.  The question to Josh is: does he want to be a great player?

We lost to Florida in the NCAA tourney last year for three reasons.  The first problem, LJ's injury, seems to be fixed.  The second was our weak bench which was out scored 15-2 which will take a hit if Anderson is unable to play.  The third was Josh could not dunk and was blocked on the key play by Florida's Chandler Parsons, a play I have to believe does not happen if Smith weighs 25 pounds less. 

For UCLA to win the Pac-12 and make a deep run in the tourney, Anderson needs to contribute and Smith needs to lead.  There is still time for Smith, but Anderson may have run out of chances from UCLA.

UPDATE (DC):

Here are the details on Anderson's arrest:

[UPDATE: Anderson was arrested on campus after a tracking device on the MacBook Pro valued at $1,541 helped its owner lead police to Anderson, said Nancy Greenstein, a spokeswoman for UCLA Police. Anderson was booked at the West Hollywood Sheriff's Station and released on $20,000 bail.]

Also from the Daily Bruin:

University police stopped Anderson outside of Covel Commons after a report of a stolen laptop and arrested him on suspicion of grand theft. He was held on $20,000 bail and released Wednesday morning. Anderson’s next court date is scheduled for Thursday.

Very disappointing news, for sure.

Go Bruins

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You have to look at the bright side

This should do wonders for Jerime’s court awareness….

In all seriousness, what a boneheaded thing to do going into your fourth season. And its not like Jerime comes for a poor family and was starving (although that doesn’t excuse it, it at least becomes more understandable). I just don’t get it.

So, that class of 2008 has been a total disaster. Lee leaves after a disappointing Jr year. Holiday leaves badmouthing howland, Bobo gets forced to transfer for not being in shape, Gordon’s attitude shows him the door and now this. Unbelievable!

by silverlakebruin on Jul 27, 2011 4:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Disagree on Lee

But that is a quibble. It may have been a very dumb prank by Anderson, let’s hope.

by DCBruins on Jul 27, 2011 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

nice to see Lee there with Howland the other day

repping UCLA in Vegas. He gave 3 years of pretty decent effort to the cause, not sure why people are so hostile (and compare him so unfavorably to Anderson – who totally wasted a year – and Zeek, who I really like a lot but has to date given us one season)

by VeniceBruin on Jul 27, 2011 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

Lee was a good player. I don’t think he ever deserves to be lumped in with Gordon, Morgan, etc.

by DCBruins on Jul 27, 2011 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who's hostile to Malcolm?

The issues that we have brought up re him have nothing to do with what he had done while playing for the Bruins, but that going pro this spring might not have been the most beneficial move for him – particularly given the current status of the NBA as a functioning entity.

formerly bruinhoo

by Patroclus on Jul 27, 2011 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

definitely wasn't referring to your sensible posts

about whether he made the right personal decision for him and his family.

by VeniceBruin on Jul 27, 2011 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was in reference to Silverlake saying

Malcolm had a disappointing junior year. No way. Lee was very good his junior year.

by DCBruins on Jul 27, 2011 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Totally agree!

And I’m not into second guessing his decision to try the draft. A way to look at it, if Malcolm fails to have a big senior season, the NBA may decide the potential just isn’t there. Then there’s always the risk of injury.

Anyways, Malcolm gave us 3 years of solid effort. He was always a serious, tough competitor – even when he wasn’t getting his minutes, even when he was struggling to play pg.

I hope he makes it with the T’Wolves – maybe he’ll move into my building!

by mplsbruin on Jul 27, 2011 7:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree that his year was not disappointing, but it depends on how you look at it.

If you compare his junior year with the hopes that he had to go in the 1st round, preferably the first half of the 1st, then it was a disappointing year. Anyone coming into said junior year with such hopes would have been disappointed after having such a year. Afterall, the only thing that brought him back into first round talks were his workouts, not his junior season. That being said, I think that his 1st round hopes this year (I think he would have been there next year for sure, no doubt, especially after a deep tourney run where his defensive stopper-ness would have been on a national stage) were delusional at best, but his junior was actually a really good year that would’ve set the stage for a potentially great/legendary senior year as a Bruin. Oh, what would have been. But I wish him nothing but luck. The same can’t be said for that rat-bastard in Philly who came to UCLA thinking he was somehow going to unseat DC. Sure, maybe CBH told him he’d give him the chance, which I’m sure he did, but come on! DC has bought into the system for 3 years up til that point and was NBA caliber already. I don’t care who he is, he’s not taking that job. OK, enough of that, I’m getting heated all over again!

formerly Westwood78

by PhoenixBruin on Jul 27, 2011 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

...and another thing.

So dude didn’t the job, so what does he do? With all of that talent that he supposedly had (and has shown in the NBA) coming out of Campbell Hall? He just mopes up and down the court for a full season, exerting little to no injury. I guess DC & crew didn’t feel like family.

formerly Westwood78

by PhoenixBruin on Jul 27, 2011 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Last on Lee

I like Lee too much and think his only mistake was going a year early. I think his sophomore year he showed a lot of potential (29 on the road against Notre Dame, shutting down the PAC 10 player of the year in a rare time we played M2M, etc.) but that team was so bad that they had to play zone and he had to play PG. I like Lee more for it because I think he sacrificed for the team.

His Junior Year he did everything besides shoot outside well (yeah he could have fed the post a bit better). At 2 in the NBA you need to hit the three. That said, his defense was so good, I did not consider him a let down from recruiting expectations.

I think he needed to stay to work on his outside shooting but instead he tried to rebranded himself a combo or PG. He can certainly play D against a PG.

So, yeah, I like Lee and only wish he would have stayed one more year. I think he gave a lot for two years as well.

by DCBruins on Jul 28, 2011 4:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Lees stats

Were down across the board his Jr year from his Soph year. I was certainly expecting an improvement his third year.

That being said, that isn’t the same type of issues the other players had and I am not equating those actions, just saying he left early and his third year was a disappoint. Didnt mean to imply his character was the same as those, just that we never got the big payday from him I was expecting

Here’s his stats

by silverlakebruin on Jul 27, 2011 7:18 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Lol damn mobile posts

Let me say he didn’t really improve. He had fewer boards and assists buy had fewer turnovers and scored 1 more point. I would call that a flat performance year over year

by silverlakebruin on Jul 27, 2011 7:23 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Your stats are not comparable.

On the team prior to last years, he was required to do far more than he was his Junior season. Our team last year was much more capable than they were his sophomore season.

"Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden

by OswegoBruin on Jul 27, 2011 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep

He did what we needed to win whether that was score, defend, etc. Sophomore year he had to try to a little everything.

by DCBruins on Jul 28, 2011 4:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

2008's recruits are a total washout

Yes, Lee redeemed himself well this past season. But he too took a little while to get his game untracked when he was expected to contribute instantly.

by Htse005 on Jul 27, 2011 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

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by freesia39 on Jul 27, 2011 4:32 PM PDT reply actions  

If this is not a prank/misunderstanding

… it will be sickening disappointing. Reminds me of Shirley/Richardson(s) situation from last year in football. RN was decisive in how he handled their situation.

by Nestor on Jul 27, 2011 4:36 PM PDT reply actions  

Yes, I like that UCLA

handles these situations quickly and does not make excuses, etc. It is not something I want to happen, but I am glad that we have ethics.

by DCBruins on Jul 27, 2011 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

It wasn't a misunderstanding.

It was a foolish mistake made by someone who obviously has maturity and decision-making issues. Hopefully he will learn from them and forge himself into a better person, but I think, like many do, that it’s highly unlikely he’ll play another game. I feel bad for him, but he’s made his bed.

"Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden

by OswegoBruin on Jul 27, 2011 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

ugh, agreed.

So what does that do to our PG situation? LJ starts, and then……

by BruinMW on Jul 27, 2011 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Parker is more likely than either Powell or Lamb.

Parker has experience at a higher level than HS, and has run the point before. I think this might actually help clear up the lineup situation a bit, but then again, it all depends on who a) meshes better at the SF position, A Wear, or Parker, and b) what matchups we happen to be facing. I think we’ll see a lot of:

1- LJ(30+)/Parker (10 /-)
2- Lamb (30)/ Powell (10)
3- DWear (25)/ Parker (15+)
4- Nelson (27+)/ TWear (13 /-) Lane?
5- Smith (25)/ Stover (15 +/-)

"Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden

by OswegoBruin on Jul 27, 2011 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good Point on backup PG but on lineup

I think your point applies best to Powell. A lot to ask a kid to learn a new position let alone PG his Freshman Year. Lamb would be playing 3 postions, 1-3, a lot to ask as well. Parker makes the most sense with Lamb as the long shot.

But I still don’t see David Wear starting. He can’t match up with threes on D and I doubt he can feed the post as well as Lamb, Parker or Powell. And this is a team built for Smith and Reeves to score inside.

Pure Speculation on my part but if Anderson is gone, I think it means Powell starts at 2. Your lineup has Powell playing 10 and Parker playing 25. I think Powell needs more minutes and could be very good. Thus I think Powell plays a lot of minutes at 2 and only 2 so he can learn the position. Also he has some Malcolm Lee\Russell Westbrook like qualities, good finisher and good athlete.

But the key is Parker. If he is good and can hit an open 3, he may start. If he is okay Lamb plays a lot of minutes, plays backup 2 as well as starting at 3. and Parker/Wear battle it out for backup 3. If he sucks, we have a huge problem.

Parker may be the key to how good we are next year.

by DCBruins on Jul 27, 2011 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Key to the season a JUCO transfer?

That sounds familiar! Let’s hope he reminds of LJ!

by Chris09 on Jul 27, 2011 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

actually that would be great

barring injuries, Zeek really contributed early.

I hope this wasn’t sarcasm…

by BruinEngy on Jul 27, 2011 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, it wasn't sarcasm =)

I really like LJ and am looking forward to seeing him play again with 2 good hands/wrsits!

by Chris09 on Jul 28, 2011 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

still not sure...

…how we kicked three guys off our football team for that kind of misconduct and other programs welcome them with open arms. How and why does that happen? It’s like the misdeed never happened in their eyes (fwiw, the Richardsons and Shirley are all playing like future stars on their new teams).

As for Anderson, he doesn’t strike me as the kind of guy who would swipe a laptop a la Masoli, but who knows? I do know that you can easily be charged with a crime that you didn’t commit based on false accusations. Police officers need almost no evidence to arrest someone…suspicion is all they need, which means little. Let’s hope that’s the case and he can play ball this year.

by hicalliber on Jul 27, 2011 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd be surprised if CBH is as decisive as CRN was.

I think a precedent has already been set with the Bricklayer of Belgrade that players get to play during ongoing legal situations. Unless this makes its way through the legal system prior to the bball season, I doubt he gets kicked off the team.

Of course, no point in speculating before any real action is taken. Let’s hope this is in fact a prank/misunderstanding.

We're havin' too much fun today. We ain't thinkin' 'bout tomorrow.

by Steve Bruin on Jul 27, 2011 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am blown away by severity and the timing of this bad news.

But, truthfully, I’m just blown away.

What was Jerime thinking? It’s easy to see he wasn’t thinking at all. This is somewhat understandable in a kid. But, Jerime had shown signs of out growing that childish stuff. Guess not.

As for Ben Howland, I completely understand and even applaud his immediate suspension of Anderson. Bravo. there is no doubt in my mind he did the right thing. What I don’t understand is why he didn’t show the same kind of conviction after either of Dravovic’s brush with the law.

The best thing you can do for your children is to love their mother. John Wooden

by MexiBruin on Jul 27, 2011 5:45 PM PDT reply actions  

Let's let the facts come to light...

…before we condemn him. How would you feel if your boss fired you for being accused of a crime you didn’t commit? Let’s let the legal system play out.

With that being said, I doubt Howland would suspend Jerime if he felt this was the case. If I’m reading into his statement (“he knows that he made a huge mistake”), Jerime did something wrong…I’ll trust Howland’s judgement on this one.

by hicalliber on Jul 27, 2011 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

+1

Need to let it play out.

Troubling thing is CBH’s statement: Seems to imply that Jerime told him he had done something wrong.

In the brick guy’s case, the brick guy’s story was that he had not done something wrong — actually in both of his cases, there was ambiguity in his use of force.

But, we have no reason to rush to judgment.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Jul 27, 2011 7:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

plus, the whole laptop tracking device

being used to get back to Jerime’s room. Kinda hard to argue that one.

formerly Westwood78

by PhoenixBruin on Jul 27, 2011 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

No question he had it

but whether he stole it is the issue.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Jul 28, 2011 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Needs a receipt

If he doesn’t have a receipt for it then he is done.

If he claims someone gave it to him, or let him borrow it, or worse he bought it from some"dude", then he’s in trouble, as it would likely be an NCAA violation and/or a crime.

There are many tell tale signs if a computer is new or not, so he can’t claim he thought it was a new computer.

Louisville, KY for UCLA class of '87

by kingslook on Jul 28, 2011 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think Ben

would have come out and said he made a “terrible mistake” and police would have charged him with suspicion (and arrested him) if he hadn’t actually stolen the computer.

"Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden

by OswegoBruin on Jul 28, 2011 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

right

Howland did suspend ‘that guy’ immediately after the Henry Ford Theater altercation incident charges were brought, and then he – and the athletic department – decided to reinstate him while the legal proceedings continued. All charges were later dropped. Overall I think they handled it exactly right.; and it was clearly a he-said, he-said type of case.

In the Anderson case, there seem to be fewer degrees of interpretation open. He either had the laptop or didn’t; if he did, he either came by it illegally or didn’t. Absent some particularly compelling justification as to how he came to be in possession of it, I would expect his suspension to become permanent.

by VeniceBruin on Jul 28, 2011 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

And he's a senior

so that decision is made significantly easier. Wish he could have done this last year and opened up a scholarship…

"Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden

by OswegoBruin on Jul 28, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

certainly looks damning

but who knows? a roomate could have jacked it…or any of the other scenarios. not looking good for Mr. Anderson. if he is convicted, then he’s off the team for sure.

by hicalliber on Jul 28, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

This just in:

Jerime Anderson transferring to Mississippi – Petitioning NCAA for immediate eligibility.

by Alcides on Jul 27, 2011 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think Jerime

is several brushes with the law short of Masoli status.

by Chris09 on Jul 27, 2011 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Huh?

Whaaaaat!?!?!

Oh UCLA you sweet bitch, you've BRUINed me for anything else.

by bruin8uclap on Jul 27, 2011 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ah

Got it.

Oh UCLA you sweet bitch, you've BRUINed me for anything else.

by bruin8uclap on Jul 27, 2011 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, never heard of Masoli ... and Renardo went to Miss St

and never got into trouble with the law.
I stand corrected.

by mplsbruin on Jul 27, 2011 7:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ah

Ah ha. Got it.

Oh UCLA you sweet bitch, you've BRUINed me for anything else.

by bruin8uclap on Jul 27, 2011 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Let's not rush to judgment on JA.

But that doesn’t help the pit I feel in my stomach.

I hope Josh gets his act together, too. He was on the cusp of becoming an excellent player. I hope he redoubles his efforts.

by BrendonBruin on Jul 27, 2011 6:54 PM PDT reply actions  

+1

We dont want criminals playing for our team. But we dont know. I think CBH’s actions are appropriate and can be made more severe if required.

We really dont know the facts.

by Bruin Dad and Grad on Jul 28, 2011 8:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

the other damnable fact is that school on the other side of town will use this to recruit against us.

“You see how they suspended Jerime Anderson with out giving him the benefit of the doubt? Here at JC we would have accussed the accuser and made them pay for your laptop. AND you wouldn’t miss a practice. Unless, you know, practice ain’t your thing. We understand. You’re a baller.”

The best thing you can do for your children is to love their mother. John Wooden

by MexiBruin on Jul 27, 2011 8:25 PM PDT reply actions  

damn typos.

The best thing you can do for your children is to love their mother. John Wooden

by MexiBruin on Jul 27, 2011 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why would they ever stoop to just going after ballers?

Over there, they aim only for sexual ballers and nothing less.

"The true athlete should have character, not be a character."- John Wooden
"Always turn a negative situation into a positive situation."- Michael Jordan
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by firstto100 on Jul 27, 2011 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Clever reply is clever.

The best thing you can do for your children is to love their mother. John Wooden

by MexiBruin on Jul 28, 2011 12:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Caught

If they police tracked the Macbook right to Jerime, who knows what kind of evidence they could also have. If the owner used the app “Hidden” to re-locate his stolen computer, he possibly could have taken pictures of Anderson if Anderson actually used the laptop.

In any case, this is pretty upsetting to me—especially as someone who uses their computer for everything. I’ve collected thousands of songs, dozens of movies, I’ve customized the functions and appearance, I have thousands of photos and video memories, all my homework for the past six years (including my master’s project), tons of entries in my contact book, personal journal entries, etc.

I worked pretty darn hard to get myself a laptop and I’d rife with anger and I’d probably be depressed knowing that some jerkoff stole it from me in one fell swoop.

by Alanamaslama on Jul 27, 2011 8:51 PM PDT reply actions  

I sure hope that he bought it stolen...

For his sake and for the sake of the program. But if he actually stole it, then we can write him off as a failure and embarrassment to the university.

by 1BruinFan on Jul 27, 2011 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Buying stolen property...

…when you know it to be stolen is a felony in California. See Penal Code Section 496(a).

by Bellerophon on Jul 27, 2011 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Judging from Coach Howland's reaction...

This looks like a slightly more serious matter than Jerime buying a Macbook off of Craigslist.

formerly bruinhoo

by Patroclus on Jul 27, 2011 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Probably

But, let the case go to court and lets see all the facts before fully passing judgement. I’m not very optimistic though.

by Bruin'96 on Jul 28, 2011 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Alan -- Back It UP!

If you haven’t done it already — back it up, and preferably more than one copy at more than one venue.

Use a program like SuperDuper to make a clone, and TimeMachine for a back up.

I’ve had two laptops stolen.

With the Mac, to load your replacement, you use Migration Assistant and one of your back ups.

Even if it is never stolen, the HD can fail.

Way off topic — but I’ve been there and was saved by my back ups.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Jul 28, 2011 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeah

something I’ve been meaning to do for a while, but I keep putting it off. wouldn’t mind getting a tracking device of some sort, too…but I have a PC laptop. any ideas?

by hicalliber on Jul 28, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lol no kidding....

Failed hard drives are fairly common and can happen instantly…

by Bruin'96 on Jul 28, 2011 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good thinking!

I hadn’t heard of SuperDuper before, but it looks pretty darn useful. I’ve been meaning to get a back-up external hard drive and I can probably find one on the cheap now that I have a buddy that works at Best Buy lol. In any case, SuperDuper makes the whole process seem less tedious. Thanks!

by Alanamaslama on Jul 28, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

My Anal Back Up Plan

I used to back up sporadically, if ever. Then I got burned.

I have at least two SuperDuper clones, at all times. One away from my house and computer and one at home.

At the same time, I have a third drive on which I use TimeMachine to automatically and seamlessly back up.

The difference is that the Time Machine back up is not bootable.

Hard drives are CHEAP! compared to the cost of losing data. Especially, if you use bare drives an something like a Voyager.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Jul 28, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

The comments seem to be focusing on Anderson, when Smith's weight is much more important imo

If I was Smith I would have had a goal this summer of dropping 30-40 pounds, ff he’s let the whole summer go this long while gaining weight…. there’s zero basis to assume he will drop any weight in the next two and a half months (unless Howland figures out how to force/motivate it). Is this a failure on Howland’s part? Maybe there is a silver lining here in that he won’t be able to go pro after his sophomore season because of it.

by Orz on Jul 28, 2011 12:43 PM PDT reply actions  

Is it Howland's fault if Gordon

decided to go off the rails, or if players decide to transfer? These kids, despite what we think, have a decent amount of free time. Arron Afflalo spent it working out, working on his game, and improving as a player. Anderson chose to do other things, and Bobo decided to as well. Ben can only lay out the path to NBA success, but it’s up to the players to walk it. It’s the saying about the horse and water. If these kids don’t want it enough, or if Mr. Smith’s addiction (what it likely is) to food is too strong, there’s not much more that Ben can do that he hasn’t already done.

There isn’t zero basis to assume he’ll lose weight. He’s done it once already, and can do it again.

"Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden

by OswegoBruin on Jul 28, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know how badly it could affect his performance

Suppose he has to continue to work on his conditioning, return for a 3rd year?…

by BruinEngy on Jul 28, 2011 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Smith

Smith could have gone to the NBA last year. He could go to the NBA at the end of this year. Unless he gains 100 pounds and is incapable of doing anything, he will make it to the NBA. He’s a great talent.

by Christian L. on Jul 28, 2011 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Possibly true

but his weight will play a large role in when it’s the optimal time for him to enter the NBA. I don’t think anyone was implying that the 10 lbs he’s gained will keep him from playing pro ball.

by Chris09 on Jul 28, 2011 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Glen Davis

Is of pretty similar body frame and type, and has carved a nice career for himself despite only losing part of his weight that he “needed” to lose prior to the NBA. I don’t think either player is built to play big minutes, but can definitely help as a player off the bench in the NBA.

"Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden

by OswegoBruin on Jul 28, 2011 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Smith Dunk

The season seemed around last year when Mr Smith started dunking on people instead of the myriad chippee-misses. As he gained weight last year he dunked less and less, and the chippees returned. Its a waste of his size when he isnt in adequate enough shaped to dunk when flat-footed, and that shoot be our concern.

by Alcides on Jul 28, 2011 6:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I really don't think he is.

Glen Davis, in his draft measurements was 6’ 9" in shoes, 6’7.5" without them.

Now look at this picture.

http://rushthecourt.net/mag/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/josh-smith-ucla.jpg

He’s next to Tyler Lamb, charitably listed as 6’5 on our official site, and even if we assume this, Smith is not much more than 3-4" max. That would make him, at tallest, in shoes, 6’9"

Or, if you prefer not to eyeball, this picture.

http://rushthecourt.net/mag/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/JoshSmith.jpg

He is, no two ways about it, no more than an inch taller than Reeves Nelson, who is about 6’7, 6’8 at most in shoes.

Thus, Big Baby and Smith are almost exactly alike in height.

His predraft weight was 298, and that’s after months of draft preparation. So consider that Josh is roughly 330 now, and he could, in a few months, lose 30 pounds, roughly what he lost prior to his frosh season. Thus, he is roughly within 15 pounds of Big Baby, and conceivably what big baby was during his college career, when he was VERY out of shape.

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by OswegoBruin on Jul 28, 2011 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

You may be right on Smith

But I thought Davis was much shorter than 6’9". He certianly does not look 6’9" and I would have guessed he was under 6’7". I guess part of Davis problem is he lacks length for his height according to one review I quickly read. Not sure on Smith’s length and wing span.

by DCBruins on Jul 29, 2011 4:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Smith isn't extremely lanky

but he has some length. For both players, their best attribute is their footwork and ball handling. Everyone kept saying if Baby lost the weight he would be a fantastic player. He’s lost some weight, enough to be effective in role playing minutes in the NBA, but not enough to dominate. I think they could break into Elton Brand status if they really got serious and lost a lot of weight, but for someone that’s eaten well or alot their whole lives, that’s not an easy thing to do.

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by OswegoBruin on Jul 29, 2011 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

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