[UPDATED] UCLA Basketball: Anderson's Priorities
by DCBruins on Jul 29, 2011 6:36 AM PDT
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PrintUPDATE: Anderson's Attorney stated the following (emphasis mine):
"He's really sorry and embarrassed and humiliated for whatever judgment he used that day," Artz said.
Asked if that was an admission his client had done something wrong, Artis said, "One can draw inferences from that. ... Clearly, Jerime is a young man who has no prior arrests or contacts with the law. For him to be arrested, it's a major blow and he's extremely sorry and humiliated."
Artz would not address the specifics of the case, saying he had not seen any police reports and had only spoken briefly with Anderson.
"I would suggest everyone remember there's a presumption of innocence," Artz said.
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While it may be admirable for Reeves Nelson to stick by his teammate and passionately say "I pray no UCLA fans talk bad about Jerime. Only 1 person never made any mistakes. We will learn from this & get better." Regardless of whether Anderson is guilty or not, this is a serious time in Jerime's lfe. Jerime has had a self-admitted problem in the past of partying too much (according to Jerime that is what he did too much of after his freshman season), so now after his arrest what is Jerime doing? Going ahead with a big party:
Or, as listed on Facebook, the "I LOVE COLLEGE!!! ATHLETES PARTY! August 5th Hosted By Jerime Anderson."
. . .
So, in light of Anderson's arrest, pressing matter: Is the party still on?
After posting $20,000 bail at the West Hollywood sheriff's station, Anderson is scheduled to appear at the LAX courthouse at 4 p.m. today. However, fellow party-planner Edgar Garibay, a forward for rivaling Loyola Marymount University, assures us Anderson will still make it to the August 5 event:
"Jerime will still be there," he says. "I talked to him yesterday, and there's some bullshit going on, but he'll be all right." Plus, the LMU baller adds, UCLA frosh Anthony Stover has confirmed his attendance, as well. (OK, that's it -- we're in.)
Now maybe the friend is wrong. But in any case this seems like very poor judgment. Jerime, I hope this is all a big mistake but in any case, this is not a time for a big party.
In fact, it's the kind of short-sighted, almost entitled attitude we'd expect from a USB Trogan. Very disappointing, to say the least.
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Thats great
terrible reality, but love the double facepalm
by silverlakebruin on Jul 29, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Appearances are important
Here’s how to throw yourself whole-hog into the abyss, Jerime: party on when contrition, humility, and counting your blessings are called for.
Someone Help A Geezer Out
I dont understand parties like this.
it’s called the “I Love College: Athletes Party!!” and is hosted by a large group of LA based college athletes — one of whom is Jerime and another is Anthony Stover.
If you Google the party, it shows up on the websites or Facebook accounts of many people, each of whom claims to be the “host”.
It’s at a private bar and there is an admission charge.
Where does the money go? Do the “hosts” get any? If so, does that violate any rules that regulate amateur and college athletics? (The advertisements make clear that these are college athletes and give their schools.)
And, a final Geezer question: Why would anyone want to go to a party like this?
Here’s a link to one of the ad sites for the party: https://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=213673152012764
and here’s a link that has Stover hosting: http://allevents.in/Los%20Angeles/I-LOVE-COLLEGE:-ATHLETES-PARTY!!-August-5th-Hosted-By-Anthony-Stover/221454597898659
sjh
Looks like
A desperate attempt to gather as many athlete chasing hoochies in one place as possible.
It also reeks of USB Trogan douchebaggery.
C'mon guys
you can’t tell me that during your college days that you didn’t try to chase as many hoochies as possible. The party seems harmless but Anderson should hold off. How ironic that all of this goes down after he’s assumed ben ball warrior status.
"A legend is an old man with a cane known for what he used to do. I'm still doing it." Miles Davis
by milesdavis93 on Jul 29, 2011 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
See My Post, Below
I have two problems with all of this.
First, blaming Jerime for a party that is not “his”; and,
Second, the commercial nature of the party in which the UCLA brand is exploited.
sjh
Presumed innocent but Jerimine--grow up
The kid is presumed innocent. In and out of the LAX Courthouse, he is presumed innocent.
But it is time for a grownup to step in and grab him by the scruff of the moral neck. He is embarrassing UCLA.
Most comments on BN say one way or another that getting arrested with somebody else’s laptop is beyond stupid.
And the post makes it look like his entourage or posse will show up for his arraignment. What are they going to do—engineer a jail break? Has it become such a part of college athletics that one shows loyalty by showing up at a pal’s arraignment?
And the party Twitter—sorry he has no judgment.
My view is Coach Howland should promptly determine if he stole the computer. The review should be thorough and competently conducted. There is no need to repeat the Duke lacrosse disaster. If he stole the computer, show him the door.
Remember Bill Walton. When he told Coach he didn’t want to get to get a haircut, Bill was told that he wasn’t going to play basketball at UCLA. Being shown the door for not getting a haircut!
Jerimine is embarrassing a great university. If he did it—get rid of the cancer.
by peggysue69 on Jul 29, 2011 8:40 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
+1
Even if he didn’t do it, boasting that the party is going to go on, despite the mess he’s in, is not just youthful indiscretion, it’s either rudderless drifting, willful ignorance, or stratospheric stupid.
“The scruff of the moral neck,” indeed.
Nothing will really shock me about this situation anymore.
He’s shown, several times, to be a poor decision maker. He’s still showing that.
"Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden
CBH's Recruiting Class of 2008 - Where are they now?
Under normal circumstances, the following 5 “athletes” would be heading into their senior year at UCLA . .. and where are they now?
1. Jrue Holiday (Scout’s SG #1 – #4 overall) – Heading into 3rd season with 76ers; 14.0 ppg last year
2. J’mison “Bobo” Morgan (Scout’s C#3 – #23 overall) – Transferred to Baylor?!?!
3. Jerime Anderson (Scout’s PG#3 – #31 overall) – TBD. BTW, Scout’s PG#2 was a guy named Kemba Walker . . . and their PG#4 is a guy named Larry Drew, Jr.
4. Malcolm Lee (Scout’s SG#7 – #39 overall) – Drafted in 2nd Rd by Chi and traded to Minn
5. Drew Gordon (Scout’s PF #15 – #42 overall) – Transferred to New Mexico
Oh, what could have been . . .
What could have been?
If what? I’m not sure what you mean. If we’d drafted different players instead of this group that was projected as the number 1 class in the country? Or if they’d all put in the effort that Malcolm Lee did, who is one of the players who’s gone? Or if they’d all stayed? In the last case, I think we’d have a very dysfunctional group on our hands with multiple cancers. The only good outcome above would have been generated if they’d all put in Lee-like effort with Lee-like discipline, but it’s clear that the recruiting that year fell way short in terms of determining character — except for Lee. That was the ultimate issue with the recruiting class of 2008, and I think CBH fully knows it now. Hopefully, we will find he makes far fewer of those mistakes going forward.
Everything isnt meant to be literal
CBH brought in what we all thought (due to immense hype) was a second coming of the Fab 5. Ironically, this group wound up with similar fate.
I'd like to give the kid a break
But he’s making it really hard. Partying while in college is fine, and making mistakes is part of life, especially at that stage. But you need to be learning how to be responsible and learning from those mistakes at the same time, and Jeremy doesn’t seem to be doing that. It’s a bummer to see someone intent on learning life’s lessons the hard way.
by RealisticBruinFan on Jul 29, 2011 9:58 AM PDT reply actions
You know, I understand your point of view
But then again, I never (allegedly) stole a laptop, put myself a position where anyone could think I was involved in stealing anything, or got into serious trouble. And I still managed to have a pretty damn good time at UCLA…
Mistake?
A mistake is accidentally taking your neighbor’s pen and putting it in your bag because it looks the same as yours. A mistake is accidentally buying lowfat milk instead of nonfat milk.
Stealing a laptop is no mistake. It’s theft.
All of these athletes and celebrities coming to apologize publicly for their “mistake” has completely confused the moral line (which is exactly what they want).
Oops! I made a mistake! I shot myself in the leg! I killed dogs! I beat my wife! Just a mistake! I’ll learn from it and grow!
But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.
by tasser10 on Jul 29, 2011 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oops! I made a mistake! I shot myself in the leg!
That’s what the previous Vice President did – just to someone else.
And in the face.
"Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden
by OswegoBruin on Jul 29, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Ya know it can happen
Who can forget ex-NY Giants convicted felon, ex-Rikers Island and ex-Ulster Correctional Facility (a medium-security prison, in Napanoch, N.Y.) resident and all around bad shot, Plaxico Burris.
and got the other guy
to apologize for it
"A legend is an old man with a cane known for what he used to do. I'm still doing it." Miles Davis
by milesdavis93 on Jul 30, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
I didn't mean to imnply that stealing the laptop was a mistake
I mean it in general, his basic pattern at UCLA of not making very intelligent choices. He hasn’t seemed to learn from his mistakes at all, and this has led to the jump to theft. I am in agreement with you that theft is a major upgrade from mistake.
by RealisticBruinFan on Jul 29, 2011 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Bob Costas' great line
On the now defunct HBO N.F.L. show, the panelists were discussing some athlete’s arrest and the malfactor’s “candidly contrite” admission when facing the press, “I have made bad choices.”
Costas, becoming agitated at the jock’s “bad choices” moral pedagogy to the point that steam as coming out of his ears, said, “Look a bad choice is wearing a striped tie with a polka dot shirt.”
It's an interesting debate
On one hand, likely none of us would ever even consider a felony (except for the occasional murder while waiting in line or sitting in traffic). That said, i’m certainly not blameless in my life, and i’ve made plenty of bad decisions. I’m in no place to judge anybody, and my beliefs ask me to not judge in any case. I hope Jerime betters himself in the future, as he’s already given up his UCLA future with his actions.
"Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden
by OswegoBruin on Jul 29, 2011 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Shrug
I see going ahead with the party as a natural 20-something response. When stuff hits the fan, you can mope about it, or you can go on with your life. If you’re in college, you go to a party with your friends. I’m sure many of us have responded to bad situations in our lives (even if the only person to blame is yourself) by going out with friends and doing something fun. The only difference is that he is a public figure, and public figures aren’t allowed to move on with their lives. They have to make sure everyone knows that they recognize the error of their ways. So yes, he’s wrong in going to this party — it doesn’t look good. But if he were just some random student, I wouldn’t be surprised by his decision, and I would understand where he’s coming from.
Perhaps
but not many of us are on the ESPN college basketball frontpage with a story of how we’re being charged with felony theft. He’s a representative of our university and by being charged with such, and going to a party? I disagree with that decision, heartily.
"Every day was a good day at UCLA." -Coach John Wooden
Interesting thought
If he has in-fact “already given up his UCLA future with his actions.” then CHB needs to make a decision and move on. Stuff like this can become pervasive as it reinforces the much discussed “entitlement attitude” of the high performance athlete in general and that class of 08 in particular. He is innocent of the charges, until due process plays out, but to put yourself in the position of accused in the first place, shows poor judgment (a continuing theme with JA and many in that 08 class), and the idea of partying it up post accusation, contributes to that whole idea. I am also concerned that Anthony Stover, would be linked as well. Is the cancer spreading?
This Is Not Jerime's Party and Not His To Cancel
There are many reasons to criticize Jerime, but I’m not sure this party is one of them.
This is not his personal party — something that he could and should cancel. Were it his alone, I’d join you.
But, part of the point I was trying to make above is that this is a commercial venture by party “promoters” who use athletes as “bait/hosts”.
It is not fair to call this Jerime’s party. And, unless I missed something in my Google searching, Jerime has not publicly declared a “party on” attitude. It is one of the promoters who has said that Jerime will be there — obviously trying to hype the party and maximize the attendance in this money making venture. I’ve not seen anything from Jerime, post arrest, that says he will attend. (Of course, Geezer that I am, I may have missed a Tweet or Honk or whatever.)
So, I can’t join the bandwagon of condemnation based upon the party. I do join in the deep concern and dismay surrounding the laptop incident, itself.
And, I remain concerned that our student athletes are participating in commercial ventures that exploit their status as members of our teams. This seems like a product endorsement to me and I wonder if that is consistent with NCAA and university guidelines.
sjh
66 it is that he is still going there that bugs me
This line gets to me: “Jerime will still be there,” he says. “I talked to him yesterday, and there’s some bullshit going on, but he’ll be all right.”
If you were a public figure, charged with theft out on 20k, would you be going to a public party with your face as one of the hosts? I mean let’s say he is totally innocent. Would you go?
As Oswego said above he was on the front of ESPN College Basketball page with details of his arrest.
Maybe I have been in DC too long but I don’t think going to a public party now is the best thing to do.
Hearsay
If Jerime comes out and says that he is going — I’ll be upset, too. I agree he should be contrite and keep a low profile now. I agree that partying is not the right thing to do.
But, I don’t see any evidence that he has made a statement about going to the party?
All I see is the hearsay statement of a promoter, who stands to profit from the party, purporting to speak for Jerime. Since I view the entire enterprise as sleazy, I’m not going to condemn Jerime for something someone else says.
I don’t know how to find Jerime on Facebook or Twitter. If I did, would I find him espousing a “party on” attitude?
I’m still most upset by our guys using their UCLA status to promote/endorse parties. For that reason, I’m not happy with Stover, either.
sjh
I may need to dial it back, too.
I thought I had read of a tweet from JA, himself, stating or implying that he still intended to go to the party. But, on looking back, I couldn’t find it. So, either I misread it or I made it up, I guess. Of course, like you, my searching is geezer-impaired also. Apparently, my reading isn’t so hot, either.
Still, in my view, he ought to be in full mea culpa mode, whether or not he is the original thief. This includes not being seen partying while his legal troubles are going on, whether or not he made party-on boasts beforehand.
BTW, is a capital-G Geezer some sort of title, like an OFE (Old Fart Emiritus)?
Same with me
I thought the tweet came from Jerime. But Class’s other point about indirectly profiting from the UCLA brand is right on.
I'm a little unsettled about how derailed these comments are going
Maybe making light of the situation is the only way to cope with it all.
I am extremely concerned about the potential for success our program has next season, the losses of Lee and Honeycutt, potentially along with Anderson, are looking to spell a disastrous season…
This is could be a real disaster
We do not know what will happen.
But my sense of it was that we would be starting two seniors at the guard position—a big plus if we were going to play for the PAC 12 and NCAA championships. Experience counts.
That is clearly in real jeapordy right now.
It is not disaster yet
Anderson was supposed to be a backup. Not a starter. It hurts and leaves us less margin for error but I am not sure how much. For example if De’End Parker is good and versitile, Anderson loss is not that big. If Parker is not, we again have bench issues.
However, if Powell is a good as advertised and Lamb steps up on offense, our starting five is pretty good and our backups bigs are better than last year.
Anderson was insurance, depth and experience. Lack of experience will hurt early, depth is still unknown (Parker), but yeah if someone in the backcourt gets hurt we are in trouble.
Anyhoo, Anderson could still be cleared.
Jerime Is Not Hosting and Will Not Attend the Party
From ESPNLA: http://espn.go.com/blog/los-angeles/ucla/post/_/id/6398/jerime-anderson-apologetic-after-arrest
First, the article refers to a post on Jerime’s Facebook page and then quotes his lawyer.
The post, dated July 30, also addressed a party Anderson was going to be hosting for L.A.-area athletes called the “I Love College Athletes Party.”
“I will not be attending any social events and I am saddened and disappointed for my lack of judgment,” the post said.
A statement from Jerime’s lawyer:
Artz said that Anderson, a senior reserve point guard, is very remorseful and had “tears in his eyes” during their meeting last week. He also confirmed that Anderson has contacted the party organizers and requested that his named be removed from the event. A link to the event on Facebook no longer includes Anderson’s name, though other links still do.
“He was involved in this party and now he’s not and he’s trying to make it clear,” Artz said. “He had the event scheduled prior to making huge mistake. Now he’s not going to this party or any party.”
I think this will make some of you feel better. If you read the entire article, you will see that he is contrite. Obviously, hard to judge his sincerity online. But, I choose to believe it and hope that he finds a way to repair the damage he has done to others and himself.
sjh
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