Is Coach Ben Howland’s Discipline Fair?
Jerime Anderson's arrest and quick and indefinite suspension from UCLA has raised questions about whether his suspension was a "different standard" than the one used against Nikola Dragovic. It also raises a question about whether Howland treats all his players the same.
Let me take the second first. Should a coach treat all players the same?
At a coaching clinic in the Catskills . . . I heard him say, "You do not treat them (players) all alike."
Who said that? Only the greatest coach of all time: none other than our beloved John Wooden. But what does it mean? Take one of the greatest centers in the history of college basketball, Bill Walton. Bill Walton was probably the second best (top honors being KAJ, of course) player Wooden coached but was even more likely Wooden's biggest pain in behind. Walton always pushed every limit Coach gave him. But it was that same intense desire that made him the best high post center ever and such a masterful student of the game (my favorite example of that is Walton always tried to block shots to teammates instead of volleyball spikes).
Everyone knows about the hair-cut story but who remembers that Wooden bailed Walton out of jail? Bill got arrested following a peace protest (not exactly something criminal, like stealing someone's laptop), but Wooden was very angry with Walton, reminding him he was the returning player of the year representing UCLA. In fact, Walton even stole Coach's letterhead paper to write a letter protesting the president and sent it without Wooden's permission.
I guess a great example is the penny story. Every year Coach would open with a story and the punch line was finding a hidden penny. The lesson being that one should be ever vigilant, and that luck plays a role. For his senior season, Walton who knew what was coming, snuck in and stole the penny. Wooden was flummoxed and as he looked for the penny, Walton stood up and said: "Coach, we are a great basketball team, we don't need luck. We know what to do." These are just a few stories in three pages of one book. Walton never stopped challenging Wooden's authority at every turn (on a side note, ironically, Walton says one of the reasons they didn't win the championship his senior season was his stupid stealing of the penny and not listening as Coach was right as always).
Was Walton ever suspended? Nope. Was Walton benched? Nope. Would the ninth player on the bench have gotten away with one tenth of the crap that Walton did? I doubt it. But Wooden realized this was who Walton was and dealt with him.
Today, one member of this UCLA team is probably Howland's most challenging player: Reeves Nelson. Reeves works out harder than every other current player and, as you'd expect, his body is in phenomenal shape. He asked (or demanded, depending on who you believe) to cover two lottery picks in big games last year and shut them both down in key wins. He is one of the best ball-handling true power forwards I have ever seen.
He is also a person who threw a ball at a teammate during a game, has the worst body language I have ever seen, said playing the USB Trogans was just another game and joked around in the closing minutes of a blowout loss to Arizona.
But that is who Reeves is. He is an intense hard worker, a very good basketball player, possibly the worst poker player (as he could not hide his emotions to save his life) and oblivious at times in his own world.
When I was watching the VCU game at MSG last year, my wife points at one of the players and said "it's over now, look at that guy, you guys have given up." I didn't even have to look where she was pointing to know it was Reeves but this was early in the second half and we came back to within a missed three (ironically by Reeves) of sending the game to OT. And Reeves played well, having 20 points and 10 rebounds in that game.
Most guys get that look that my wife saw on Reeves and you pull them right away. But Reeves bounces back quickly. Howland and even his teammates understand Reeves is different and the price of Reeves is his unique and visible baggage.
To be clear throwing the ball at Lane as Reeves did is not acceptable, I don't care who you are. But I would rather have Reeves abrasive personality and work effort than a laid back underachiever or a guy who works hard but does not have high major Division 1 talent. Reeves should not be judged by the same standard as every other player.
My point, coaches should be fair but not treat everyone equal. Coach didn't and CBH shouldn't.
Now, onto Dragovic versus Anderson. Dragovic was in a fight with witnesses on both sides. It was a "he said, she said" sort of situation. Dragovic was suspended and then reinstated and ultimately prevailed, with the Los Angeles County District Attorney dismissing the felony assault case against him. It is no secret that he was disliked here at BN (his shot selection didn't help) but he was not in CBH's dog house.
At this moment in time, it appears Anderson, at a minimum, made an error in "judgment" according to his lawyer. In other words it appears, unlike Dragovic, he has admitted doing something wrong. What that something is, that is what we don't know yet. Earlier, Anderson joined LJ by getting his Ben Ball Warrior initials here at BN in a post titled "Earning the Trust Back of Coach Ben Howland and BN". As that post implies, Anderson had earlier much less serious problems that had caused BN and Howland to question his judgment.
So while BN has taken back the reference to Anderson being initialed as a Ben Ball Warrior, in comparison to other UCLA basketball cases, IMO, CBH is being fair in indefinitely suspending Anderson.
It's just sad that Anderson, who seemed to have finally turned the corner at UCLA, has once again run into the wall.
Go Bruins
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Letter to Nixon
As far as I know, Walton wasn’t on the team that sent the letter to President Nixon. I believe it was a Vallely/Wicks/Rowe team.
Piece is Pocked with Several Historical Errors
Walton never “stole JRW’s stationery”, and the letter had nothing to do with Walton. It was composed by the members of the 1970 National Champion squad of Sidney Wicks, Curtis Rowe, Steve Patterson, Henry Bibby, John Vallely, John Ecker, Kenny Booker, Andy Hill, John Chapman, Terry Schofield, Bill Seibert and Rick Betchley. Patterson was the prime mover in orchestrating the letter protesting the U.S. perpetuation of the Viet Nam war, and it was
sent to the infamous H.R. Haldeman, Nixon’s COS and , er, a UCLA grad. Contrary to your newly minted “myth of the stolen stationery sent without Coach’s knowledge,” the finished anti-war letter, according to JRW’s own book, “Personal Best,” was presented to Wooden by the team with the thought he’d join on it. He of course refused and added he hoped they would not send it. …. but he did not forbid it.
Regarding variables in Wooden’s player discipline, one might remember in 1967 he suspended his most experienced returning starter, talented senior power forward Mike Lynn one year for a credit card larceny conviction, but gave All-American guard Lucius Allen a pass for being arrested with a small quantity of marijuana before ‘68 season (the same year senior Lynn was reinstated from his transgression). Allen was arrested for the exact same offense exactly one year later (reportedly this was a birthday “thing” with Lucius) and on the second offense, Wooden suspended Allen for the season (after which he went NBA rather than returning for his senior year).
Interestingly, Walton suffered no team sanction from his Peace March arrest. And there have been moments in later years where JRW simply smiled when asked if he would’ve really thrown Walton, the best player in college basketball-off the team if he’d called his bluff about the haircut….pretty good poker player as well, was John R. Wooden….
Not according to Walton
I was quoting him. It was a story he told in the book above.
by DCBruins on Aug 1, 2011 4:24 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
To Be Clear
Re: The Letter. You are right it was not about the Vietnam War. But I wrote Walton wanted “to write a letter protesting the president” not the war. Walton’s arrest was about the Vietnam War. Walton’s letter demanded Nixon’s resignation.
He did show the letter to Wooden who told him, “You’re not going to send that in.” Which of course Walton promptly did. I have heard this story in a couple places but quoted it this time from page 157 of An American Treasure John Wooden by Steve Bisheff with a forward by Bill Walton.
Ah, Another Day, Another Letter.... Gotcha
Was not at all aware of this “other” Walton secret double probation letter, nor have I read the Bisheff book on Wooden. Only knew of “the” letter, per Andy Hill, et. al.. .. ma bad..
Always thought Bisheff might warrant a fact check or two in his writing, given
I recall historically, an inbred skew towards the sc-rotals in his woodpile, perhaps evinced by his fluff tome on Cheater Pete in “Always Compete, An Inside Look at Pete Carroll and the USC Football Juggernaut”. He got Lew Alcindor’s Houston injury wrong in the HBO “UCLA Dynasty” documentary—saying into the camera he had a “scratched retina” —which would’ve meant somebody had poked a finger through to the back of Big Lew’s eye (it was a scratched cornea)…well, I guess nobody ever accused Bisehff of being an opthamologist…
Actually, Bisheff did talk to me once. I happened to be sitting on the cold floor of
the Wooden Classic media room in the then Anaheim Pond…I had taken this unusual position right after Cade McNown had overthrown his final seconds pass on the video screens vs. Miami, ‘98. Bisheff, who looked like he was sporting some bad hair coloring, asked me if I was all right.
I didn’t answer.
Not according to Walton
I was quoting him. It was a story he told in the book above.
by DCBruins on Aug 1, 2011 4:24 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I understand the comparison
But I feel like coaches can only treat players differently in the team setting (ie coaching style, ego-management, etc.). When it comes to disciplinary action, they have to treat players equally IMO. I know that wasn’t your main point, though, because the Dragovich situation was clearly different.
Domestic Violence
I just wanted to point out that Dragovich was also accused of a domestic violence incident. The fight was his second accusation of violence.
I agree overall with your point. I also think equal and the same don’t always mean the same thing. I think what is important is that discipline for outside issues be consistant and are fair in the eyes of the players. I think if players begin to observe special treatment, the team is lost. I wondered at the time if other players felt like that about Dragovich and that lack of discipline had ripple effects throughout.
Go Bruins!
I agree on both counts
It has to be fair and you are right Drago had other incidents. Fair is not the same thing as equal.
You know when Reeves had his defense questioned, his performance against Derrick Williams was great
If you question his poker game, you just might find yourself seeing a similar rise to the challenge.
Reeves fits the billing of a ...........
natural born fighter of the first order.
Just look at that pair of glaring eyes whenever the game is on the line.
I love to train my binocular on him during crunch time when Howland signaled him to step up his game. Like a matador determined to face down a fuming, stubborn beast, Reeves automatically elevated his act several notches, instantly kicking his instincts to prevail, or fight and win ONLY on his terms, into high gear.
With the student sections’ deafening roars that further fueled Reeves’ emotions, Pauley fans knew they were in for a treat. Of course, sometimes he botched a play badly. With UCLA still behind, we saw a guy slowly, deliberately jogging up court as if to reload his arsenal for the next big move.
In short, watching Reeves at his street fighting best worths everything a horrendous 405 gives you before or after the game.
...and he's bringing joy to his coach
Click on this link if you want — if you dare — to see the bricklayer in action.
..... plus plenty of high blood pressure medications.
On a good day, Drago can single handedly raise healthcare costs of Serbia by several percentage points too.
Drago's incident was mid season, JA's was offseason...
It’s much easier to throw down an indefinite suspension during the middle of the offseason low. If JA swipes a laptop during the PAC-10 I don’t know that Howland makes the same move. Maybe so… maybe not.

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