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Preparing for Disaster: UCLA Football Head Coaching Candidates if Neuheisel Fails

Before we get into the meat of this post, let's make something very clear: everyone at BN wants Rick Neuheisel to succeed. When it comes to UCLA and what it means to be a Bruin, Rick gets it. In fact, given the clueless bureaucrats and culture of football mediocrity at Morgan Center, we need Rick to succeed. Personally, I like Rick and I was excited when he was hired. I'd love to see us turn it around and for him to get us moving in the right direction. But, even though he's a fellow Bruin (as was Karl), UCLA is bigger than any one person. And, as we've said before, this is his "make-or-break" season and if he cannot meet our reasonable expectations for his fourth year in charge, a change in leadership will be warranted.

So, with that, let's talk about what happens if Rick can't fix the Bruins this season and Guerrero pulls the plug on the Neuheisel era in Westwood. If we can't muster up a winning season with a bowl appearance, UCLA will once again be looking for another head football coach for the third time in the last decade. Naturally, we at BN have some apprehension about Guerrero being the man in charge of that coaching search, given his lack of prior football experience and his past record of unsuccessful hires (Karl and Rick).  In fact, we've openly questioned whether he's the right guy in charge to turn around the football program.

There are a lot of names floating out there, should Rick's seat become vacant.  But, not all of those names are guys that UCLA should hire.  After the jump, let's break down who is likely available for the 2012-13 season, who would be a good hire, and who we need to keep as far from Westwood as possible.

Star-divide

First, let's talk about coaching candidates that are available but who we need to make sure Guerrero doesn't even consider:

1. Greg Robinson - Unemployed; Former Syracuse Head Coach (Career Record: 10-37)

Robinson is a former Donahue assistant, so he has UCLA ties. But he's a typical Donahue disciple: conservative, unimaginative, not the kind of hire that will fire up recruits or a fan base, especially one as depressed as UCLA's.  His defenses were shredded as Rich Rod's DC in Ann Arbor and his Syracuse teams were just sorry.  Or as gbruin put it earlier:

Before his college days, Robinson was DC for for the Denver Broncos in the late 90’s (and I was a season ticket holder in the South Stands). Robinson ran a very gimmicky gap control defense that had little to no room for error and was maddeningly prone to giving up numerous big plays. It was the same story every week: if a single player missed an assignment, esp near the point of attack (i.e. filled the wrong gap, missed a tackle, blitz got picked up), there was no one else available to stop the play. The defense was repeatedly burned for big yardage plays several times a game.

The weakness of his scheme was hidden somewhat by the fact that he had guys like Steve Atwater (future HOF), Alfred Williams, Bill Romanowski (I hated the freak but he does have like 4 rings), Mike Lodish (Bruin who played in like 6 Super Bowls), Neil Smith (future HOF), and several other very good players, but was mostly covered up by the fact that John Elway (HOF), Terrell Davis (HOF if not for injury), Shannon Sharpe (soon to be HOF), Rod Smith (deserves HOF), and Gary Zimmerman (HOF) and the best OL in the NFL were putting up 35+ points a game and other teams were forced to play catch up. Robinson has 2 Super Bowl rings, but it was NOT a Super Bowl worthy defense in any way.

Greg Robinson coming to Westwood would be a disaster. We do not have (and cannot ever reasonably expect to have) the talent on either side of the ball to cover up for his "bend and break several times" defense. His "success" in Denver is an illusion. His days in Syracuse tell the truth.

Yikes.  Let's pass on Robinson.

2. Rich Rodriguez - Unemployed; Former Michigan and West Virginia Head Coach (Career Record: 120-84-2)

Unlike Robinson, Rich Rod at least has a winning record as a head coach.  I don't need to explain in detail his disastrous tenure as the main man in Ann Arbor because, setting aside the NCAA violations, the fact that the guy stabbed his own alma mater in the back on his way out of Morgantown tells me everything I need to know about him.  We don't need some snake-in-the-grass who will use UCLA as a stepping stone to something else.

3. Karl Dorrell - WR Coach, Miami Dolphins; Former UCLA Head Coach (Career Record: 35-27)

Karl is a good Bruin, a good guy, and boy does he look good in a suit (thanks Carnesale).  That said, he was woefully unprepared and far too inexperienced to take the reins of the UCLA football program.  Just browse through BN and you'll find thousands of reasons why Karl should not return to Westwood as a football coach.  If Dan G. was dumb enough to do this, UCLA fans would probably hang Guerrero from Royce Hall.

4. Tyrone Willingham - Unemployed; Former Stanford, Notre Dame and Washington Head Coach (Career Record: 76-88-1)

Do I really need to explain why this would be a terrible hire for UCLA?

Yeah, I didn't think so.

Alright, with that, let's talk about coaches who might be good fits for UCLA if Neuheisel can't get it done this year.

1. Urban Meyer - Unemployed; Former Bowling Green, Utah, and Florida Head Coach (Career Record: 104-23, 2 BCS national titles)

I didn't need to explain why Tyrone Willingham would be a bad hire, so likewise, do I really need to explain why Urban would be an amazing hire for UCLA?  No, I don't, but it'll be fun, so let's do it.  While we certainly have the money to chase after a high-profile, high-cost coach like Urban Meyer, there is no realistic possibility of him taking the UCLA job over other more attractive (to him) opportunities. Bear in mind that with his track record, he can essentially name the college he wants to go to (with the exception of a few schools with entrenched, national title winning coaches, like say, Texas or Penn State), so the money is on the Ohio native returning to the most obvious high-profile coaching job available: Ohio State (assuming the sanctions aren't catastrophic).

But, let's divert from reality for a second.  Urban to UCLA would dramatically change not only the landscape of the Pac-12, but of the national college scene.  High-profile recruits who otherwise would not have given UCLA a second thought (i.e. SEC area kids) would suddenly have UCLA on their radar for no other reason than a chance to play for Urban Meyer.  It would send a signal of intent to the entire conference that the Bruins were serious about football, and wouldn't it be fun to watch him just destroy Lame Kitten and the USB Trogans?

2. Al Golden - Head Coach, Miami Hurricanes; Former Temple Head Coach (Career Record: 27-34)

If Rick does fail and Guerrero has to make a change, my favorite would be Al Golden, who was one of the finalists for Neuheisel's job (along with current Baltimore Ravens head coach John Harbaugh).  I have the sinking suspicion that if the right job became available, Golden would bolt from Miami.  While he's saying all the right things in public about Miami's looming major spanking by the NCAA, the undertone is clear: he is not happy that Miami never hinted at the depth of the sanctions they were facing when he came on board prior to this season. Al Golden would a solid hire, someone that we seriously considered the last coaching search, and he's made a lot more with a lot less than he'd have at UCLA (see Temple).  That said, he's a Penn State guy, and if Joe Pa decides to make this season his swan song, I can't see Penn State making a serious play for Golden, and likewise, I cannot see him turning down his alma mater for UCLA.

3. Bronco Mendenhall - Head Coach, BYU Cougars (Career Record: 56-21)

Mendenhall is another name that was tossed around a lot on BN and other UCLA communities after Karl Dorrell got terminated.  He'd be a solid hire and he's demonstrated he can operate in an environment with, how should I say, strict external pressures and rules. He's never had a BCS gig though and it's one thing to beat up on Mountain West opponents week-in and week-out and to face U$C, Oregon, and the other heavy hitters of the Pac-12.

4. Mike Leach - Unemployed; Former Texas Tech Head Coach (Career Record: 84-43)

Ahh, the Pirate.  Also known as Class of 66's favorite coaching candidate.  He's be a big splash hire, that's for sure and he'd give UCLA instant offensive credibility.  It's hard to doubt a man who turned Texas Tech from some state school I'd never heard of in the middle of nowhere into an offensive machine that got national attention.  Naturally, there's concerns about his off-the-field alleged transgressions and he's got a swashbucklin' personality that won't sit well with the stuffy bureaucrats in Murphy Hall.  For that reason alone, there's no way I see the Donahue-infested UCLA bureaucracy ever signing off on this one.

But I threw it in so Class of 66 can dream. ;)

5. Miscellaneous: Chris Peterson, Boise State Head Coach; Kyle Whittingham, Utah Head Coach; Phil Fulmer, Former Tennessee Head Coach; and [Fill in the Blank Here]

If you start scanning available coaches, there's a lot of interesting guys at non-BCS schools (although I can't see Whittingham leaving Utah now that they're in a BCS conference), and there are a lot of former coaches who are unemployed or at jobs that barely count (ranging from Phil Fulmer, who has won it all, to scrubs like Buddy Teevens, who if we hired, I'd kill myself).  Likewise, there are a lot of high-profile coordinators, both in the NFL and in the college ranks, who are probably looking for a shot, and UCLA, a BCS school in a fertile recruiting area, faced with only Lame Kitten and sanctioned U$C, isn't a bad place to take a shot at a head coaching gig.

This is the part where it opens up to all of you.  If Rick can't get it done this season and turn UCLA around, who do you want Guerrero to go out and hire?  Okay, bad question: we probably all want Urban Meyer.  Who do you think UCLA has a realistic chance for and if you don't see your candidate on the list, feel free to chime in and add that name to the mix.

Like I said, we all want Rick to succeed.  He's a solid Bruin and he's a great fit.  He's running a clean program and he loves his alma mater.  Now, he just needs to win.  But, sentiment doesn't keep you employed.  It's his put-up or shut-up season.

Fire away with your thoughts.

GO BRUINS

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Great Post.

Like everyone else I want Rick to succeed at UCLA. If we had to go down this road again, I would love it if our AD went after Gary Patterson, the HC from TCU. Not sure how realistic it is, but I can dream right?

by UCLA5677 on Aug 23, 2011 1:15 PM PDT reply actions  

This

Gary Patterson would be a great hire, my top choice to replace CRN. If not him, I think Peterson at Boise St. would be an excellent replacement as well. Both these coaches have done extremely well with mediocre resources. If they were given a school like UCLA to work with, I think they would be able to succeed at a much higher level.

by bruin11awp on Aug 23, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also...

This might be out of the question. But, I think John Grueden or Steve Fisher would be home run hires as well.

by bruin11awp on Aug 23, 2011 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

The differences between Cowher and Carroll

One is a future NFL HOF coach. The other is a proven failed NFL coach.

One is a straight shooting honorable man. The other is a double talking flim flam man who ran a shady college program.

For starters, those are a couple of differences.

by peggysue69 on Aug 23, 2011 4:00 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I'm sorry, but

did you just say you’d take Pete Carroll as the next head coach at UCLA?

by Chris09 on Aug 23, 2011 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

I’d take any coach that dominated college football for nearly a decade.

by bruin11awp on Aug 23, 2011 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just have a problem with losing..

Not to defend Carroll. But all he has against his record is the Reggie Bush scandal.

Other than that he did some pretty outstanding things with a program that had been down in the dumps for a long while. And this includes kicking our ass for all but one year. And outside of his HC responsibilities he did some great things in the LA community. You don’t have to like the guy, but you gotta respect what he was able to accomplish.

by bruin11awp on Aug 23, 2011 7:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's not losing you have a problem with, it's integrity

And that’s because you seem to believe that Bush is the only thing that went down over there, completely ignoring the culture of lawlessness and thuggery that he not only looked the other way on, but cultivated through his “discipline”.

If those are the kinds of people you want representing UCLA, then I want no part of it. I don’t have to respect anything he’s “accomplished” and apparently, neither does the NCAA or the general public, or does the word “vacated” not mean anything to you? Really, the only way your win-at-all-costs mentality might be even marginally logical is if you are an individual with no shame and no integrity.

by Tydides on Aug 23, 2011 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have a problem with winning at any cost...

Such as blatantly cheating and then getting the hell outta Dodge when the writing is on the wall….

which brings PeggySue’s excellent fanpost re. “Man of Honor” to mind..

have you read it?

by BruinBaller88 on Aug 23, 2011 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

or

why not exhume and re-animate McKay? That oughta stoke the rivalry fires a tad . . .

The Mad Bruin

by lostnacfgop on Aug 24, 2011 5:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

+1 on Hitler as HC

Other than he did some pretty outstanding things with a that had been down in the dumps for a long while. And this includes kicking <the Allies’> ass for all but one year (the last year ;). And outside of his responsibilities he did some great things in the community. You don’t have to like the guy, but you gotta respect what he was able to accomplish.

by KnudsenRockne on Aug 24, 2011 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oops. Sorry some edits were interpreted as html code.

He’s how it was *supposed to look:

Other than [The Holocaust] he did some pretty outstanding things with a [Nation] that had been down in the dumps for a long while. And this includes kicking [The Allie’s] ass for all but one year (the last year). And outside of his [military] responsibilities he did some great things in the [German] community. You don’t have to like the guy, but you gotta respect what he was able to accomplish.

by KnudsenRockne on Aug 24, 2011 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Other than the Twin Towers

Bin Laden did some fine things for Muslims. LOL.
“You gotta respect that.”

by 1970 on Aug 24, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

No I Don't GOTTA respect Hitler

Is this supposed to be a serious site with educated people? Sad. Respect that he was responsible for the death of 50 million people including kids? Most NOT soldiers.
Made slaves out of civilians and worked and starved many to death?
Had the 1st real organized genocide in history?
What outstanding things? The VolksWagen and the Autobahn?
Allowed medical experiments on live people with no anesthesia?
I could go on, but I won’t.
BTW, once he fought a 2 front war, he wasn’t kicking anyone’s ass. Even before Normandy, after the Battle of Britain, it was a war of attrition. His own generals tried to kill him 7 times cuz they saw the writing on the wall. I can’t believe these are UCLA grads here. Shocked.
Like saying Bin Laden did some good for the Muslims so we gotta respect that. I will not respect murderers. Look at OJ. He was a great RB.
I CAN’T BELIEVE THIS SITE ALMOST BANNED ME ONCE FOR SOME TRIVIA COMPARED TO THIS POST. Ridiculous. OK to say Hitler can be respected but don’t say anything bad about players.

by 1970 on Aug 24, 2011 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wait...

I’m confused.

You seem to understand the sarcasm in your comment above, but appear not to in this one. You do know that KnudsenRockne’s comment is pure sarcasm, right? Please tell me you know this.

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Aug 24, 2011 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

It did not seem so.

A well placed LOL would help clear that up. My LOL makes it clear what I am saying.

by 1970 on Aug 24, 2011 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Unfortunately

there is no font for sarcasm…

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Aug 24, 2011 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

If it is sarcasm, it should be obvious.

It sounds serious to the casual reader. I read it again to make sure. Nothing there implies it is not serious. My LOL and " "makes it clear what the point of view is.

by 1970 on Aug 24, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

That takes away

from the effect. Within the context, it comes off clearly as sarcasm to me, because I don’t think anyone is crazy enough in this community to write something like that seriously, and certainly not KnudsenRockne.

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Aug 24, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've had my own internet fails

at not detecting sarcasm online, and even I think that KR’s comments were obviously sarcasm. Within the context of this comment thread, I don’t see how it can be interpretted any other way.

by Chris09 on Aug 24, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

1970

Might have just had a Blake Arnet moment. Not understanding and reflexively spazzing out and overreacting to clear and obvious sarcasm is now pulling a 1970.

Protip: Read the WHOLE thread. Had you not missed the fact that Knudsen was copy-pasting bruinawp’s comment and replacing words, you might have avoided this whole embarrassing episode.

by Tydides on Aug 24, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can't say

that I haven’t failed similarly on other occasions, in all fairness. But I usually say Oops and move on. To my next fail.

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Aug 24, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Really?

Because the way I see it, anytime you see someone extolling Hitler’s virtues (especially online), that should immediately raise red flags; either the person is trolling or is being sarcastic. I get that sarcasm is difficult to detect in most circumstances, but I just don’t see this particular situation as one of them.

Not only that, but the brackets should have been another big hint that something isn’t quite right in the post, so taking it literally and immediately flying off the handle is an overreaction.

by Tydides on Aug 24, 2011 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

It is indeed an overreaction

The sarcasm in this instance wasn’t that subtle. I’m just saying, I’ve fallen for subtle sarcasm before.

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Aug 24, 2011 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

hmm

I want to flag this post. You clearly either have a gaping hole in your memory or your allegiance to all things Bruin.

by sponkey21 on Aug 23, 2011 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

The only Steve Fisher I know is a basketball coach ...

But if you’re referring to Jeff Fisher, you should read his bio.

by AllHailMightyBruins on Aug 23, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not necessarily

Lame has a pretty big buyout across town, unless he does some serious losing (oh, please yes) I can’t see there being a lot of momentum to pony up the cash to get rid of him. Fisher seems pretty pragmatic, I could see him going to some college team, though the Bruins would be pretty low on the list. He does hate Lame, a lot, so that might help.

Our current HC is a $C alum as well, so this isn’t entirely crazy.

by JimmyBurke on Aug 23, 2011 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Our current HC is NOT a $C alum!

Going to Law School at U$C does not equate going there for undergrad. That is near blasphemy right there. Jeff Fisher not only went there, he played football there!

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Aug 23, 2011 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

From Merriam Webster:

“Alumnus: a person who is a former member, employee, contributor, or inmate .” I am willing to give CRN the benefit of the doubt and assume he fits into the “inmate” portion of that, held against his will. They have taken our former players for coaching positions, I am fine with doing it back to them, as long as it is an acceptable coach, which I think Fisher is more than acceptable. And yes, I am

by JimmyBurke on Aug 23, 2011 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like Fisher

I was just comparing Fisher’s alumnus status to Neuheisel’s.

You’ll find many people here in the same boat as Neuheisel, I dare you to call them U$C alums.

Point being, very small chance that Fisher would end up here.

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Aug 23, 2011 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

You wouldn't be quite so high on Jon Gruden if you had lived in Tampa

I wasn’t here for the Super Bowl year, but I was for the tougher times that followed. He was quite one-dimensional. He also liked an offense that featured a slow, not particularly accurate passer. Not my number one choice.

by Fox 71 on Aug 23, 2011 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Patterson is not leaving TCU

and Peterson does not like UCLA. Not to mention that there have been some semi-fishy things going on at Boise State. So enough with the Peter-Patter. :) just kidding.

On a serious note, it took years for Patterson to build up the TCU program and he will likely stay there until he retires, he is very loyal to the school.

As for Peterson…considering what his predecessors have accomplished after leaving Boise State, I say no thanks.

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Aug 23, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Another vote for Gary Patterson

He has done an amazing job building that program on both sides of the ball.

by Ajax on Aug 24, 2011 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

oops

Sorry guys, my phone’s freaking out on me

by bucknellbruin on Aug 23, 2011 1:41 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I was on the Al Golden bandwagon years ago

so I suppose I’ll stick with it. Hopefully it’s that I’m hoping he does well with Miami because CRN has is flying in Westwood.

Two roads diverged in a wood and I – I tweeted my followers to ask which I should take

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Aug 23, 2011 1:32 PM PDT reply actions  

I really, really

don’t want to think about this right now. I am all in on this being a successful season for CRN.

As with all things, however, it’s good to have a backup plan. I think we underestimate the appeal that this job would have for Urban Meyer. Ohio State will have sanctions, and it is a high stress, high expectations kind of job. UCLA is no such thing but it provides a tremendous platform with access to top recruiting areas. Not to mention that, after his Utah gig, Meyer will have inroads in Utah and on the West Coast, and on how to win on a tight budget. Furthermore, there is something to be said about UCLA’s integrity when it comes to athletics. Color me naive, but I think that was part of Meyer’s distress in Florida with a lot of his players getting in trouble. In terms of lifestyle, this could be exactly what the Doctor ordered for Meyer, should he choose to go back into coaching. Which I don’t think he will.

Bronco Mendenhall will not leave BYU unless he is fired. And I am not sure if he would mesh well in LA and on campus. He is however an intriguing candidate who is actually a defensive specialist and has ties to the west coast via his Oregon State stints and his current recruiting.

Mike Leach…man, that would be fun. I just don’t know if he believes the UCLA job is big enough for him, but with the Pac-12 as a rising conference, he might be swayed. I doubt we could pay him enough, and regardless, if he comes, I would make it conditional on having a stud DC. Which means more money…so, probably won’t happen.

The only other name I can think of is Rocky Long, who has been a head coach before, is currently the coach at San Diego State, and obviously has the UCLA ties. Not the most inspiring hire (for head coach), but definitely a name that will come up.

I think the natural, safe candidate will be Al Golden…

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Aug 23, 2011 1:32 PM PDT reply actions  

UCLA definitely big enough for Leach:

From Spencer Hall, who not only interviewed Mike Leach but spent a day with him:

Where would he coach if he could, carte blanche, pick a school? He wants a place with good tradition and the chance to compete for titles, but a place with some challenges and history of recent struggle, some place like UCLA or North Carolina.

Also, I just finished reading Mike Leach’s recent book where he spoke about his admiration for Coach Wooden multiple times. I don’t have the book on me but will try to quote it in the future. I’m assuming he would be very interested in UCLA if the job were to open.

I want Neuheisel to succeed, but if he doesn’t, let’s do all we can to convince the Morgan Center that Mike Leach is the right man.

by gilbert on Aug 23, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

If the personalities don't clash

it would be a good hire…but I am always weary of the personalities at the Morgan Center. But I think most alums would clamor for Leach.

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Aug 23, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am currently clamoring for Leach

Even though I now live a couple hour plane ride away from the Rose Bowl I might consider getting back into season tickets if Leach came onboard. I have to believe that he doesn’t have a HC position now because he is looking for the perfect fit.

by JimmyBurke on Aug 23, 2011 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agree with your first point

Wholeheartedly. And if CRN does fall, its time to look higher up in the foodchain for personnel replacement. Are you listening, Dan?

The Mad Bruin

by lostnacfgop on Aug 24, 2011 5:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

At one time UCLA's ethics and academics were a disincentive for some coaches

Some don’t want the extra difficulty in recruiting five star players.

But now with the epidemic of ethics violations spreading through NCAA teams, and the possibility of the NCAA coming down hard on teams to stop the spread, I think schools
with ‘clean reps’ might become more attractive.

Who wants t take over a team only to find out that for the past decade the boosters were buying drugs, jewelry and hookers for their players?

by KnudsenRockne on Aug 23, 2011 1:33 PM PDT reply actions  

Jesus!

Scared the crap out of me! I just saw the headline and my internet is so slow.. My heart sank for a second there.. . whew

DGB

by westwood12003 on Aug 23, 2011 1:33 PM PDT reply actions  

Randy Shannon?

Too soon?

In all seriousness though, I wanted Golden 3 years ago and nothing’s changed for me, the man can flat out coach, and just as importantly, he can really develop talent.

One guy that hasn’t been mentioned yet is Mark Richt at Georgia. Rumors about his job security have been increasing the last few years and if UGA has a subpar year (for them) it wouldn’t shock me if Richt is let go. He’s a recognizable name with a strong resume. Of course I have no idea if he would be interested in UCLA (or if he’ll even be available), but I would love Richt to come west.

by bucknellbruin on Aug 23, 2011 1:40 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

James Washington surveying the alums

As luck would have it a “wealthy and influential alum” yesterday mentioned to me that James Washington, now of the UCLA AD, sent a letter to him asking for RN support to stay on the job. Apparently there is movement or talk about something else happening. My friend asked me what I think, and I replied as I stated on BN recently, “He has to win this year, either beat SC or be right there at the end looking for the break to win the game, and win a bowl game. 6-6 is not enough”. My friend agreed with me.

Mensgym

by Mensgym on Aug 23, 2011 1:59 PM PDT reply actions  

Poor CRN

one thing I have noticed is that recruiting top talent has been a reach at most, for UCLA. When I look at the top talent recruits from around the nation, I wonder who is talking to this kids from each perspective school. It is rare that any name or information about UCLA contacting these kids are present. In other words who doing the recruiting and why isn’t UCLA in their ears more constantly. We need someone to be able to reach out to these kids and let we want to play at UCLA. That way they have UCLA on their minds all the time.

by ChuchDawg on Aug 23, 2011 2:14 PM PDT reply actions  

I know recruiting is just the begin of the football woes..

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-ucla-football-preview-20110829,0,3764432.story.

It comes from a direct result of recruiting, all of it," said former UCLA coach Terry Donahue, whose teams won three Rose Bowls. “Either mistakes were made in recruiting or kids haven’t fulfilled their potential.”

by ChuchDawg on Aug 29, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not sure what you're talking about

UCLA’s strategy has always been to get the best local prospects, then a few from Texas and other parts of the country. Recruiting has been the LEAST of our worries under CRN. We are not a national recruiter a la Notre Dame, and most kids tend to stick to their region anyway.

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Aug 23, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Some ideas...

1. Mike Riley would likely still be interested. He has done well at OSU and was who AD wanted before KD was given to us, Lord help us. Thx to Carnisale for that one.
2. Only because of the Ohio St sanctions, Meyer might take this one. Whatever the cost, the fanfare and recruits adv. would more than compensate us. Big PR gain.
3. Depending on his success, Mike Johnson might be a sleeper.
4. Look at the best OC’s from the NFL. There might be a young guy waiting to break out. Harbough was one and a big loss. He would have left anyway.

by 1970 on Aug 23, 2011 2:23 PM PDT reply actions  

On the other hand...

I think RN will do JUST well enough to keep a mediocrity loving admin happy. He would’ve been gone already at any other FB loving college. Donahue did it. No national champ games but a lot of bowl wins. Several W’s in a row vs pre Petie SC. FB seems to mean little to them for some reason. Why? RN’s recruiting is top drawer. Meyer’s would be awesome. RN has been given a lot of slack.

by 1970 on Aug 23, 2011 2:29 PM PDT reply actions  

I like your top 3

If we go the NFL route, I would actually look at DCs. OCs from the NFL fail miserably in college.

As for CRN…the thing is, any other FB loving college wouldn’t have hired Karl Dorrell in the first place, and that’s more than just a butterfly effect…

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Aug 23, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was going to say DC's at 1st.

I agree. Great teams are built from the D up. When we were great, we had great D’s. Linebacker U. J. Robinson et al.

by 1970 on Aug 23, 2011 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

my .02 cents.

I don’t have to tell you I’m one of those guys who is seriously down on The Rick. I would love for him to prove me wrong. But, until proven otherwise, I reserve the right to go on and on.

That being said, my favorites for the mythical job opening:
1) Mike Leach. I’m with ‘66 on this one. He has been criticized for being all offense and no defense. I say, since our university has clearly shown their disdain for UCLA Football, which means we will never win another championship in FB; we might as well have the offensive fireworks Leach’s teams provide.
2) Al Golden: I honestly feel bad for the guy. He worked hard and rose through the ranks like all good coaches should. He proved he could do the job and was rewarded with on of the premier programs in the CFB history: Miami. The coming death penalty is in no way indicative of him, and as long as he deserves a shot, why not us?
3) Urban Meyer: He would be much higher, but I agree with others, this is a pipe dream. That being said, if the position where to open we (DG) would be negligent to not at least offer him the job.
4) Paul Johnson: He was my favorite to take over where Dorrell left off. He took Georgia Tech to a BCS Bowl in his 2nd year. And his teams have gone bowling every year since he joined the Yellow Jackets. People have expressed the same reservations about him the Leach gets, to which I would respond as i did for Leach.
5) Mexibruin: Seriously. I would hire a bunch of young up and coming assistants with no wives, or barely married. I would set aside one floor of dorm housing for these coaches and eat, sleep, and shit Football. I would take a fifth of what Neuheisel is getting and spread the rest among the actual coaches that would do the actual coaching and game planning. I would make it well known that my job would be that of statesmen, firing up the troops, taking on Murphy Hall, aggressively marketing our team and etc. I figure I can get guys to drop balls and run poor routes as well as anybody we had coaching last year. Why not think WAY outside the box; and get position coaches that would truly make a difference: guys like Charlie Strong, Fangio, A Chip Kelly before he was HC. Just get them 10 years earlier.

The best thing you can do for your children is to love their mother. John Wooden

by MexiBruin on Aug 23, 2011 2:41 PM PDT reply actions  

I only feel so bad for Golden

He took the Miami job, a school that came with a well-deserved reputation.

Paul Johnson…a good coach, but I really don’t want to see that kind of offense at UCLA. Color me bored.

I think #5 is a dark horse. Hire Heather Locklear to do your recruiting. Or Teri Hatcher?

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Aug 23, 2011 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

He would be on the rebound

Lucky to get him …and he plumb LOOKS like a HC!

by 1970 on Aug 23, 2011 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

@Tasser

Yes, Golden took the job at a school of Ill Repute, but Randy Shannon seems to have been running a tight ship. There are news reports that he warned athletes away from Shapiro. So, it should not have been that easy a conclusion that this would happen at ‘the U.’

I’m admittedly biased on my #5 choice.

The best thing you can do for your children is to love their mother. John Wooden

by MexiBruin on Aug 23, 2011 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

How about

#6: Blake Arnet: No longer playing basketball so is available to take on new opportunities. Likely to be one of the top 20-30 college FB head coaches of all time.

by BruinEngy on Aug 23, 2011 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Now that's thinking outside of the box.

The best thing you can do for your children is to love their mother. John Wooden

by MexiBruin on Aug 23, 2011 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Neuheisel all the way

Like most of us believe, Rick is our guy and I hope he brings our team around this year. It is sad to read some of the posts about his coaching. When he started, he didn’t have a lot to work with. Go Rick and let’s get it done this year!

by Forever a Bruin on Aug 23, 2011 2:56 PM PDT reply actions  

There you go again with that crap...........

When he started, he didn’t have a lot to work with ?!?

Listen, he wasn’t hired because he would have plenty to work with. Exactly because the previous guy utterly wrecked the program, was dismissed with little left that CRN came into the picture. He applied, interviewed knowing the expectation was for him to resurrect the Bruin football team with his reputation being its former Rose Bowl quarterback and whatever else from his previous stints as HC at Colorado & Washington, despite his shenanigans at the latter programs.

So what do we get ? Case rests.

by Htse005 on Aug 23, 2011 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would add that

The Rick has looked worse with a better group of guys than Dorrell did with the guys he handed over. I don’t recall poorly run routes and dropped passes being a problem during the Dorrell era. And, certainly not for an entire season like we had last year.

The best thing you can do for your children is to love their mother. John Wooden

by MexiBruin on Aug 23, 2011 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

" poorly run routes & dropped passes "

You said it right. To think that the tandem of CRN & CNC, heralded as heaven sent at the time, would treat UCLA fans such feats mind boggles everyone.

I harped on it until I was warned, now that you mentioned it. In my opinion, CRN will give it his best shot this season. He will try darn hard but you cannot turn peaches into cherry trees. I just leave it at that.

by Htse005 on Aug 23, 2011 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think the warnings have been over "relentless negativity", guys

I could be wrong about your specific warnings but harping kinda sounds like being ‘relentless’ to me. Anyway the the rules for BN talk about this:


Relentless negativity will not be tolerated. What constitutes “relentless negativity”? It’s simple: simply posting the Bruins suck 100 percent of the time or the coaches are screwing up left and right without reasoning or proposing solutions. There is nothing helpful about someone who constantly says that their team “sucks” and complains. We’re all fans and we all get frustrated when the team doesn’t perform or has bad luck, but regurgitating the same venom over and over again doesn’t help anything or anyone. BN is aiming to be better than that. If you continue to do nothing but post negativity, you may lose posting privileges without warning. There’s a difference between someone who aims to point out flaws and be constructive and someone who is destructive. If you post string of fanposts or comments in a row about how Bruins stink or coaches are terrible with no reasoning or proposals, that is basically trolling and that’s how it will be treated. The goal is to make this community fun for everyone.

 http://www.bruinsnation.com/2010/9/25/1711299/bruins-nation-community-rules

Last season people were making the same (ugly) point over and over. Reading the game threads was even more painful than watching the games: talk about venomous. Yikes.
Note the last sentence in the quoted section of the rules: this community is supposed to be fun.

by KnudsenRockne on Aug 24, 2011 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

If I had the $

I would subsidize it. I would beg Meyer to take it. If not for anything else than to strike fear into the hearts (though few there are) of Trojies everywhere.

by 1970 on Aug 23, 2011 3:16 PM PDT reply actions  

My .02 cents

I have this feeling that CRN gets the team going this year. Also hot names are so fluid that the list can change quickly.

I am surprised Gus Malzahn has not been mentioned. He seems to know how to put up points everywhere he goes.

I would take RRod and his baggage, I think Michigan was turning the corner with him. He was never the right man for that alumni base and was doomed from the start try to implement his schemes into that conference.

I’d call Tressel and Meyer and see what they say. Never hurts to make a call…

Unless we plan on scheduling FCS and North Texas and Rice every year I would avoid Leach. He would bring us a great offense, terrible defense and lots of press.

by Seahawcla on Aug 23, 2011 3:28 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

I would point out that Tressel was running afoul of the (NCAA) law while he was at Youngstown State.

The Ohio State affair is not new. Just the size of the spotlight.

The best thing you can do for your children is to love their mother. John Wooden

by MexiBruin on Aug 23, 2011 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would also point out that Gus Malzahn is a great mention.

The best thing you can do for your children is to love their mother. John Wooden

by MexiBruin on Aug 23, 2011 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Golden has lost a little of his luster as far as I'm concerned.

I think the Yahoo story broke on a Thursday. By Friday, all of the guys currently playing college ball were all “cleared” to play this year. Shapiro named, I think, 12 guys who are still on Miami’s team. By the next day, Golden said all of those guys would play in the opener. I assume that if Shapiro is telling the truth, then there are NCAA violations. If there are violations, how can the guys be cleared to play?

Coach Neuheisel had three guys who did a little “alleged” stealing. We know it was “alleged” because there was no criminal prosecution, apparently. But Coach Neuheisel kicked those guys off the team.

I don’t think Golden should allow his 12 guys to play until there is a complete resolution, and I don’t think it is possible to have a complete resolution in one day, as happened at Miami. So while I was a big supporter of Golden, I am more than a little disappointed that he did not take the high road with his 12 guys.

by Fox 71 on Aug 23, 2011 3:29 PM PDT reply actions  

I have to take some of this back

I just read (and sorry, but I lost the page as I was getting back here) that the NCAA is offering a form of immunity to some people, which might exlain why some guys are instantly OK. (I think if you do a search that includes “limited immunity” and the other usual stuff from this story that you’ll find what I saw.) Anyway, if the NCAA says this guy is OK, it might mean that they have already decided (before the story broke) that he didn’t do anything wrong or that he told all. I’m OK either way if that’s the case.

by Fox 71 on Aug 23, 2011 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fulmer...

too funny.

@foryourhandicap

by uclatroy on Aug 23, 2011 3:54 PM PDT reply actions  

If CRN Has to Walk the Plank -- So Should DG and the Chancellor

CRN will not fail this year. And, he will not be replaced. He will hold this job for many years. And, with all of you, I will be thrilled. But, as an academic, I cannot resist a good academic discussion, especially one I’ve been baited into by the mention of Mike Leach. So, here is my .02 worth.

The worst thing that can be said about Mike Leach is that he will not fit into the UCLA football culture.

Duh! That culture is the problem. It has created years of mediocrity. I would hope that if we make a change, it not be just a head coach but, rather, a complete cultural change.

There is no better person to sail the ship so as to pluck and plunder the riches that accompany a winning program than Mike Leach.

Let’s not get lost in his personality — although, I, for one, would love a coach with an outgoing personality, crisp sense of humor, and great ability to build alumni and student support. (Don’t believe Craig James. I know lots of Lubbock people. To a person they support Leach and think he was screwed.) (BTW — I like CRN and think he represents us very well. He bleeds Blue and Gold and really cares. Unfortunately, I don’t think he is in a strong enough position to poke and prod the AD. Ridicule is a very powerful force. It is not CRN’s style. Leach knows how to use humor to make a point.)

Leach sails his own path. He reminds me of Tommy Prothro — not a “corporate man” but a great coach and tactician.

Leach has done more with less than any coach around. And, I think he will do more with more, too. He created his system because he lacked talent. I think he is bright enough to adapt that system to the talent at hand.

In his early years, Leach was attacked for being weak on defense. In fact, he was a victim of his loyalty to a friend who was his defensive coordinator; he ultimately fired him and Tech started playing D. I think he learned a lesson.

There has been some great stuff written about Leach. Search BN and find the references New York Times magazine article on him. It was brilliant. Hard not to love the guy after reading it.

Well, that was fun.

But, truth is that we write things like this because we just can’t wait for the season to start and,when it does, we will be behind CRN, his staff and our players 150%.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Aug 23, 2011 3:54 PM PDT reply actions  

DG and Chancellor

This comment by “Class of 66” above reinforces my contention that until UCLA decides way above the level of football coach that the school needs a successful football program, the culture could well get in the way. A Chancellor who decides that football is important when winning can, in a straightforward manner, organize the university so that those institutional issues are minimized and support a good football coach, IMO.

There is nothing wrong with that and schools across the country do it every day. Why UCLA fights this issue is testimony to “arrogance” or whatever exists in those hallowed halls of administrivia, the feeling that “after all we are UCLA and that says it all”…..

Mensgym

by Mensgym on Aug 23, 2011 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Heading in Another Direction

My fascination with Leach (besides the winning) is that he would force Morgan Center in an entirely different direction.
Yeah, he has some stuff hidden in the closet and brings baggage with him but heck…
Seriously, I like Leach but…I also like Chris Ault at Nevada…and we could get him.

by GemCityBruin on Aug 24, 2011 6:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree with you 66
The worst thing that can be said about Mike Leach is that he will not fit into the UCLA football culture.

Duh! That culture is the problem. It has created years of mediocrity. I would hope that if we make a change, it not be just a head coach but, rather, a complete cultural change.

That’s why I think the current administration will never even give him a shot, should Rick fail.

by Bellerophon on Aug 24, 2011 7:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

I laughed when I read your original post

I was drawn like a moth to flame to the topic.

I agree, it won’t happen — for all the wrong reasons.

I join those who believe that CRN would make a great AD. I hope he becomes AD after many years of success with the football program; but, if he is to leave, sooner than that, I would love to see him replace DG; I actually think he is best suited for the AD job.

But, that, too, won’t happen.

Until there is a chancellor who understands that success in academics and athletics are symbiotic, we will be a great academic school with a mediocre football program which will only be rescued by the heroic efforts of people like CRN, his current crop of coaches and players who buy in and play to the best of their abilities. If all do, and we achieve success, it will be in spite of the chancellor and not because of him.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Aug 24, 2011 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

+1

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Aug 24, 2011 7:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

candidates

I do not think Meyer would come for what we could or would pay but Mendanhall, Petersen, Golden, good choices but the younger Stoops and Pat Fitzgerald at Northwestern should also be considered. However, to get the best man we need someone other than good old Dan making the selection. We do not need to higher a serch firm let BN mention or rcomend candidates and go from there. We will only get a top flight experienced coach if we pay for one. Going on the cheap doesn’t work.

by john4justice on Aug 23, 2011 5:04 PM PDT reply actions  

i'm sure there are a few candidates that we haven't even thought of yet

Some names (likely and OC or DC) will probably emerge as the season progresses. We could snag a good up and coming coach for a cheaper price

Troy is burning

by bruinbasketball on Aug 23, 2011 5:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Ted Miller in a hilarious parody has

Dan G. canning Rick Neuheisal at the end of the year…only to hire Paul Hackett saying…He has a track record in So.Cal.

by GogetemBruins on Aug 23, 2011 5:48 PM PDT reply actions  

My Pick

Urban Meyer, Al Golden, and Mike Leach are all great candidates in their own right, and I would be thrilled to see any of them leading our blue and gold on the field, however, I’m surprised I haven’t seen Mike Riley’s name come up more often. The guy can flat out coach and has done WONDERS in Corvalis. I’ve read things about his overall happiness with OSU and he seems to be pretty happy there However, I’m not convinced that a lucrative contract couldn’t sway him our way. After all, he was supposed to be our guy when CTS was hired. DAMN YOU CARNSALE!

by OutOThsWrld on Aug 23, 2011 5:56 PM PDT reply actions  

Oops! I meant Carnesale*

by OutOThsWrld on Aug 23, 2011 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

That ship has sailed.

Riley is born a beaver. He will never leave short of being fired.

The best thing you can do for your children is to love their mother. John Wooden

by MexiBruin on Aug 23, 2011 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ralph Friedgen.

Never has a coach done so much with so little Imagine if he had our players?

by BrendonBruin on Aug 23, 2011 6:10 PM PDT reply actions  

Out of the box...

Beau Baldwin, coach of Eastern Washington. Before you laugh, Chip Kelly came out of the small college ranks, and Baldwin has Eastern Washington on a roll.

Lawrence Ross

by alpha1906 on Aug 23, 2011 8:11 PM PDT reply actions  

Kelly was also OC at Oregon for two years before being promoted.

I like the small college hires, but with the money that we should have to look, we can be picky.

by JimmyBurke on Aug 24, 2011 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

So far,

The small college hires have been pretty shady…Tressel, Kelly…

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Aug 24, 2011 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I mean--More out of the box, so to speak

Bud Wilkinson who led OU to 47 straight wins in the 50’s.

by peggysue69 on Aug 23, 2011 9:02 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

With "Forever Bruin"

Rick came in and didn’t have anything to work with, was stuck with a lot of poor coaches and had a team decimated with injuries. This is really the first year that you can say he has (hopefully) an injury free team. Any coach, any would have a problem winning with these circumsatnces. So dream on because it wouldn’t have happened. Support our players, support our team including the coaches and we will win with integrity. Winning by any other means is not worth it. Rick doesn’t need to be undermined but should be supported and given a fair chance now. Go Bruins and run em over this year. Hopefully no injuries.

by Blue Critter on Aug 23, 2011 9:32 PM PDT reply actions  

Chris Peterson isn't leaving Boise State

His son has suffered a brain tumor and spine cancer. The Petersons are very committed to his care and it is highly unlikely that they’d leave the team of doctors that treat him.

Has anyone mentioned Dennis Erickson? He may be available as well…

by DoubleTroubleBruin on Aug 23, 2011 11:20 PM PDT reply actions  

Dan Mullen

Is a very viable candidate. Has done a great job in a deadly conference very fast with Miss. St. He’d be in my immediate top 3.

by bluebland on Aug 23, 2011 11:26 PM PDT reply actions  

Thank you

The candidate list given by the original post is very uninspired and very mainstream. Seriously, Urban Meyer…and we make fun of SC and their shenanigans because of the Peter. Urban at Florida was as bad if not worse. Bronco’s a lifer. Peterson hates LA and wants nothing to do with SoCal. Al Golden is interesting at least but yes, if he has any success here he’s gone as soon as the State Penn job opens up. Leach may bring some excitement on offense but at what price? The worst part of it all, haven’t all these names been regurgitated over and over again. Fatman Fulmer..WTH…are you kidding me??? Again, don’t criticize DG for ineptness when all we keep coming up with are the same names.

Any search has to begin with Mullen. Guy has been very successful. He is a Vermeil in the making, and like Dick he might also be gone after a year or two. How do you not inquire about Gus Malzahn? For defense, what about Alabama’s defensive coordinator? What about Venables at Oklahoma? Come on. These are the names I think we should be talking about. No retreads. These guys are all great recruiters as well.

I’d rather if we are going to offer up suggestions, start thinking outside the box. Sheeshh

by bruin 95 on Aug 24, 2011 12:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

caveat on meyer

I would love Urban, don’t get me wrong. Great great football mind. Should have gone after him when Tolardo was fired. I just think the hypocritical cat calls against $C and Peter will then be uncalled for. That’s all.

And another thing, if Urban turned down Notre Dame because their admissions was too strict, there’s no way in hell he’s coming here. Even more reason to get any thoughts of Meyer out of our heads. Has nothing to do with money (although if you offered him 50mil for 4 years im sure he’d listen), has everything to do with culture and support.

by bruin 95 on Aug 24, 2011 12:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

bruin 95

I’m sorry the candidate list in the original post was “very uninspired and very mainstream.” The list wasn’t intended to be an exhaustive list of all the possible candidates out there, which is why I explicitly opened it up to the community to add to it.

I don’t have the time to list every possible candidate, including whichever ones you prefer. I have a day job. This is a hobby. Never mind how hypocritical it is for someone to complain about content on BN when they’ve been a member of the community for THREE years and has contributed exactly ZERO FanPosts and ZERO FanShots. So when you’re ready to make any kind of contribution to the community, rather than complaining, let us know.

On the substantive issue, can you point to actual scandals/issues/cheating engaged in by Urban Meyer, as we did with Cheatey Petey for years, or are you going to just offer baseless accusations?

by Bellerophon on Aug 24, 2011 7:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

You stole my thunder

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Aug 24, 2011 7:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure

what your link is supposed to show. You can’t really prevent those kinds of incidents other than through careful recruiting (and we all know the bar is pretty low at Florida). The question is what you do about the incidents, not that they actually happened. If Meyer let those kids play and turned a blind eye even after their transgressions, then I would say that he is ethically challenged. But what actually happened with those players? Were they disciplined, kicked off the team? It’s a real question, not rhetorical. Does anyone know?

Carroll meanwhile encourage a laissez-faire culture that included allowing agents in the locker room, so he is accomplice to the whole thing. I doubt Urban Meyer encouraged those kids to go break the law.

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Aug 24, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

no.

this is misguided: “what you do about the incidents, not that they actually happened” because if this were true, Tolardo would still be here. At florida, these incidents happened AND KEPT happening. At what point is this the culture and an “above-the- law” mentality. Isn’t this exactly what we were critical of $C? It glamorized the thug life amongst other things which included the agents and runners. They acted as if they were above the law, that in my mind is the issue.

what do i care how the punishment is doled out—i don’t need to know about, just so long as it doesn’t keep happening. clearly not the case at florida and not the case at $C. Repeat offenders, again and again.

but again, if we’re just talking about pure football—urban all the way. he’s just not realistic and it has nothing to do with money.

by bruin 95 on Aug 24, 2011 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I get what you're saying

but I don’t put Meyer and Carroll in the same basket.

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Aug 24, 2011 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's not even close

The last time I checked, Urban Meyer still has two national championships and Florida is bowl eligible this season.

U$C, on the other hand, is not.

by Bellerophon on Aug 24, 2011 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

no.

don’t apologize (although maybe you were being sarcastic). i know it wasn’t meant to be exhaustive. glad you responded.

was being critical of the post, not the poster, if that distinction can be accepted.

my problem is that the same names get regurgitated, that’s my only point—it’s always the same names. how pissed was everyone when the search committee came back with golden and harbaugh—all of which has been chronicled here already—but this kind of outside the box thinking actually proved to be correct.

need to keep thinking outside the box even with our own suggestions.

by bruin 95 on Aug 24, 2011 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

We're waiting for the post

where you discuss the out of the box candidates. This is a community of Bruins, I’m sure there are plenty of people with great ideas out there. The goal was to get the discussion started, not to present a definitive list. If anything, it’s just the default list that we get out of the way to talk about the more interesting ones.

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Aug 24, 2011 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

tasser10 is correct

You don’t get to criticize the post or the poster. You’ve made ZERO contribution, so it’s a bit hypocritical to complain about tone or content. If you want to disagree, fine. Write up your takes and why the list isn’t what you’d want.

Or, better yet, quit complaining about the work others do with their free time, without pay, solely for fun, and actually contribute something.

by Bellerophon on Aug 24, 2011 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

by the way

you’d be surprised how much i’ve been a supporter of the site at other places…

by bruin 95 on Aug 24, 2011 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Would Coach Peterson at Boise State Be a Good Choice?

I thought Peterson would be an excellent choice as the next coach at UCLA if CRN fails. However, Peterson turned down the Stanford job and why would he accept the job at UCLA? I’ve been looking at the commits Peterson has been getting over the years at Boise State. Even with all of his success why is he not able to recruit any 4 or 5 star players regularly. I though maybe it was primarily due to the fact that Boise State is just not an attractive school for football jocks. OR, and it is a big OR, maybe Coach Peterson is not a good recruiter or in another vernacular, his salesmanship in closing is poor. Peterson has had great success with lesser quality players, but could that success be largely attributed to his hiring of good assistant coaches? I was thinking maybe CRN should consider hiring some of those coaches at Boise State and not at U$C.

I agree with tasser10, Rocky Long at San Diego State could be a great replacement for CRN. Just as CRN’s success this year will determine his future, maybe Long’s success this year will determine his if CRN fails.

by rustyscrew on Aug 24, 2011 12:08 AM PDT reply actions  

WTH...Rocky Long

Good coordinator…horrible head coach. And it’s not like he’s been THAT successful. We just get all myopic because of our nostalgia for when we used to be decent team10 years ago. NO WAY on Long. Are you kidding me…

by bruin 95 on Aug 24, 2011 12:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Long just got there

to SDSU, and despite the talent that Hoke left in the cupboard, he won’t have as good a year. He will stay in SD.

The Mad Bruin

by lostnacfgop on Aug 24, 2011 5:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Timeout!

In no way am I endorsing Rocky Long as HC should CRN not be here next year. I even say that’s not an inspiring choice. I’m just mentioning him because I am sure the administration will look at him.

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Aug 24, 2011 7:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thoughts on a successor..........

  My son the sports writer and I had this same conversation last weekend. Who would succeed Rick if he’s blown out. The son came up with some interesting points nobody has mentioned yet.
  First and foremost is the fact that few of the mentioned candidates are suitable replacements from UCLA’s standpoint. Maybe for another school but not ours.
  Whom ever is chosen must be an Adidas coach. Nobody has mentioned that. Secondly, he must know Pac-12 football and the West Coast recruiting landscape. Thirdly, he must know and be able to navigate the UCLA culture. Not an easy task.
  Knowledge of the West Coast is imperative. Southern California is a hot bed of football talent. A coach should be able to recruit in the inner city, O.C. and Inland Empire and get himself a team full of players that will be competitive. There is enough talent locally to stock the entire Pac-12. Plugging into that base takes somebody familiar with the local landscape.
   A bigger problem for any coach is tackling the UCLA culture. As has been discussed here on BN, there is a culture that prevades UCLA football. A coach has to deal with that culture to survive. Only a former UCLA player or assistant coach has the experience and intimate knowledge of that culture. All our successful head coaches fall into those two categories.
   A recent article in the LA Times discussing the budget cuts for salaries of assistant coaches shows the value football has at UCLA. This is the atmosphere a new coach would be walking into.
  We have an administration and athletic department that was born with a genetic defect. They were born without a clue! In an era of budget cuts, more and more, the University must rely on alumni contibutions to support the school. What one thing generates more interest in one’s Alma Mater than football? Support and success of the football program generates more Alumni funding han anything else a University can do. Even UC Irvine is turning to football to generate Alumni interest in the school. If they get it why doesn’t UCLA?
  The one candidate that fills the bill and can be successful in rebuilding the football program is CRN. He knows the West Coast, Pac-12 and is a recruiting dynamo. He just needs the support of Morgan Center and to decide on a QB and ride that horse to the finish line.

by Twothphry on Aug 24, 2011 9:38 AM PDT reply actions  

Here's where I disagree

Someone who has been a player and/or coach in the program previously has the familiarity that the administration seems to want. We’ve tried it lately…hasn’t really worked so far. I’d love to see a successful season this year and many beyond. However, if CRN can’t get it done, and the previous “coach” couldn’t get it done, perhaps it’s time to look elsewhere. Jim Harbaugh had no playing or coaching experience in the Pac before getting to Stanford. He did pretty well. Nick Saban had no school or conference ties before arriving at LSU, nor did Urban Meyer prior to his hiring at Florida. Sure, there are plenty of examples where coaches with previous ties to a school or at least a conference have had success; I realize that. I just feel like our administration thinks they must have someone from the Donahue ‘tree’ or else, and that (in the hypothetical where this season sucks) is what has been holding us back.

Roses are red, violets are blue...f*** $C.

by KSBruin on Aug 24, 2011 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

You can't possibly

use that LA Times buffoonery as a supporting item to your argument. That article is such a piece of garbage, I’d line my daughter’s diapers with it if I could. It’s been discussed in this fanpost.

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Aug 24, 2011 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

That sounds like child abuse

no child should be exposed to Foster and co.

by Chris09 on Aug 24, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm afraid you're right

which is why I use it instead to pick up the neighbor’s dog poop from my front lawn.

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Aug 24, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I only mentioned

 the LA Times article to illustrate our committment to football. We are hiring asst. coaches on the cheap. As for the Times, I wouldn’t line my bird cage with the sports section. They once had a great sports department but that was a long time ago.
   What is Morgan Center planning on doing with all the TV money they are about to inherit? There hasn’t been a peep about how they plan on using the new influx of TV money. My bet is they use it on Pauley since they failed to raise the needed money from the alumni.

by Twothphry on Aug 24, 2011 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

What are you talking about?

UCLA’s pay for assistants is in the top half of the conference. Again, read the article carefully, it is highly misleading. All it says is that pay for assistants has decreased compared to last year but gives no indication of how it compares to other programs.

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Aug 24, 2011 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not your fault

It’s a hit piece and deliberately misleading.

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Aug 25, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you are making the list...

You are holding in mind the end of CRN. Law of Attraction. That’s the way it looks to me. What you hold in mind, you get.

by 1970 on Aug 24, 2011 1:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Funny

I’m still waiting for those bags of unmarked $100 bills to show up at my doorstep…

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Aug 24, 2011 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOA Caviat...

What SEEMS realistic to you and really believe. In this case, many believe in our gut that he will not make it. At least I have my doubts born out of the recent history. Let me know how that bag of bills is coming.

by 1970 on Aug 24, 2011 1:46 PM PDT reply actions  

I have the opposite

of bags of bills. All I get is boxes from my wife’s online orders. But I digress. :)

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Aug 24, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Apologies for Hitler post fail

I was attempting to mock the efforts to glibly brush away Pete Carrol’s ethics violations (which undid most of his accomplishments) – but after re-reading it I realize that without a ‘lol’ or an emoticon – and in the context of the thread – the only reasonable interpretation was that I was extolling the virtues of Hitler & his third reich.

I want to say, for the record, that I was NOT serious – and I’d hate for anyone to lump me in with such bastards as Ambrose Bierce, Mark Twain or Jonathan Swift (Didja know that Swift once seriously proposed cannibalism to alleviate the suffering of the Irish poor? ;)
jk
lol

by KnudsenRockne on Aug 25, 2011 10:04 AM PDT reply actions  

Apologies to 1970

I know it was a brain fart on your part and I’m guilty of ‘piling on’ –
but I couldn’t resist posting that response. I’m a weak man.
  
I’m Knudsen R and I’m a Satiroholic.

by KnudsenRockne on Aug 25, 2011 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not mentioned....

…but would be a great and realistic choice considering finances and logistics and that person would be June Jones. At least there will not be a question of whether the offense can move the ball!

by AllStarPH on Aug 27, 2011 7:28 PM PDT reply actions  

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