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Rivals Underestimates UCLA's Recruiting

UCLA Football has had a rough few years.  There is no doubt in anyone's mind that last year was a disaster, with just a few bright spots.  But there is one thing with which most of us agree:  Coach Neuheisel has revitalized recruiting for UCLA in a big way.  Apparently, the folks at Rivals don't feel that way.

First of all, we have discussed ad nauseum the value of rankings done by recruiting web sites.  While it may be ok on an individual level, evaluating a recruiting class is far more complex than simply taking the average of the rankings, or, as in Rivals' case, adding up the number of recruits.  That method is actually, well, stupid.

The size of a recruiting class has absolutely nothing to do with its quality.  

And before talking about how good the recruits are, how about checking to see if the program is recruiting in areas of need?  Bringing in the top 5 RBs in the country is not gonna be very helpful if you're running out of Offensive Linemen.

Secondly, smart recruiting consists in finding players who fit your system and your program.  Boise State, Oregon and TCU have done quite well without lights out recruiting classes.

So when some dimwit at Rivals.com says that UCLA has failed to capitalize on U$C's troubles, I say bull!

Bull, because CRN has stolen some U$C recruits right out from under the Trogans' noses (Dietrich Riley, Jordan Zumwalt).

Bull, because many of the players that made up U$C's "fantastic" classes left, or never came (Mr. Trogan Markeith Ambles, Seantrel Henderson).

And Bull, because many of the kids who end up going to U$C would never get in or make it at UCLA.

It's like these guys write in a vacuum without knowing anything about what they're writing about.  CRN had a MONSTER class a few years back, top 5 in the country, it was one of the best recruiting days for UCLA in a long while, despite mediocre results on the field.

Star-divide

Even when the author tries to soften his own position, he makes a statement that needs qualifying:

In all fairness, though, UCLA is off to a relatively strong start in its 2012 recruiting class. Still, none of the Bruins' commitments were seriously targeted by the Trojans.

That's right, none of our commitments were targeted by Trogans, because they could read and would never set foot in that cesspool.  Just because they are in the same area, doesn't mean that a UCLA target is also a U$C target, and vice versa.  

Last year's class for CRN may not have been the highest ranked but it filled crucial areas of need in the trenches.  It's not necessarily UCLA's fault if there are only a few "4-star" linemen out west in a certain year.

You can say what you want about UCLA not capitalizing on U$C's troubles, but as CRN says:

"At the end of the day, it's about us," Neuheisel said. "If we go out and play like we're capable of playing and put ourselves in postseason play and have a great showing in that capacity, people will come to UCLA because they'll be intrigued about the momentum of the program.

"When they get to UCLA, they'll say, 'Holy cow, what a beautiful campus.' They'll see the kind of kids and the character of the student-athlete that we have at the school. They'll be excited about it. Moms and dads are going to say, 'I want my son here.' That's how you get a program going. We're not far away from getting that jump-started."

Who gives a rat's ass what U$C is doing?  We are not trying to be them.  

The author claims that U$C had a top class in the last recruiting cycle, but further down he talks about defections that have happened and that may keep happening.  So what does that tell you?!

Even Flame Kitten is cat enough to admit that you know in the first 10 minutes when someone's a Trogan.  And I know in the first 10 words when someone writes a dumb article.

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of BruinsNation's (BN) editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of BN's editors.

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One reason I don’t like rivals is their rating system is too heavily based on stars. If sc just stacks up on 5* rbs and wrs….they’ll come out #1 but it doesn’t address any of their problems (which recruiting is aimed for).

"A legend is an old man with a cane known for what he used to do. I'm still doing it." Miles Davis

by milesdavis93 on Aug 25, 2011 4:05 PM PDT reply actions  

But

his contribution to the “trogan” program will never be forgotten.

by Chris09 on Aug 25, 2011 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Troganomics

The science of self-justification.

Or, is it “troganometry,” the mathematics in which winning is the only factor greater than zero?

Thanks, Markeith. Our vocabulary is so much richer. Great point, Chris09.

by Bruinut on Aug 25, 2011 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ok

We’ll make sure his contribution will live on!!!!

by Bruin'96 on Aug 25, 2011 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

When did Markeith leave?

I thought I saw something relatively recently about how he was one of the great stars of the trogans.

The business about recruiting classes is guesswork in large part, in my view. I’m no expert in judging football talent, but I remember seeing this high school kid who could do anything he wanted with a pass. I thought h would break al the records everywhere, and be the next Peyton Manning. That “can’t miss” guy was Robert Marve, who looks like he may not have much of an NFL future. His recruiting class at Miami was probably unjustifiably high.

by Fox 71 on Aug 25, 2011 9:29 PM PDT reply actions  

"Who gives a rat's ass what U$C is doing? We are not trying to be them."

Fair point, Tasser, but we are trying to beAT them..and that is something that CRN has failed to do so far. With respect, recruiting means nothing without results.

by WHP '68 on Aug 26, 2011 4:39 PM PDT reply actions  

Thats not the point

The article is saying that CRN has not been able to recruit well despite U$C’s troubles. That is completely false. The fact that the recruiting hasn’t translated into wins is another matter and is a distinction not made in the article.

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Aug 26, 2011 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed..

..I should have prefixed the heading with “O.T.” or something. The article was good and made its points fairly. I just wanted to remind everyone (as if they needed reminding) that success in the translation process looms over this program as it does every major college program.

“That’s how you get a program going. We’re not far away from getting that jump-started.”

But Neuheisel needs to realize that three years in, this is not a AAA jump-start. It’s more like a trip to Sears Automotive for a new Die-Hard.

by WHP '68 on Aug 27, 2011 7:05 PM PDT reply actions  

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