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Bruin Bites: Dan Guerrero and Rick Neuheisel Fail Edition

Texas players celebrate in the Rose Bowl end zone in front of some Texas fans, a lot of empty seats, and the absence of anyone wearing blue . . . at a UCLA home game.  Pathetic.

As I discussed earlier, that loss to Texas was flat-out embarrassing. If you want to subject yourselves to more torture (courtesy of this dysfunctional, diseased culture of mediocrity under Dan Guerr-error), you can go through the discussions we've had about how pathetic this UCLA program was yesterday under Dan Guerr-error and Rick No-heisel's Reign of Error here, here, here, and here.

There is no doubt that Dan Guerrero has completely FAILED during his tenure as UCLA's athletic director, just as there is no doubt that, so far, Rick Neuhseisel has completely FAILED during his time as UCLA's head football coach.

If I was a staffer at Morgan Center (read: chumps like proven liar Mark Harlan), I'd be sweating right now. The debacle that is UCLA football is completely unacceptable.  Neuheisel will be the second head coach Guerrero hired who has not panned out.

Simply put, Dan Guerr-error is on the hot seat, and if he and Rick can't turn this thing around fast, when we come after him and his job, I can guarantee that no one in Morgan Center will be safe from criticism. So boys, you better get to work or those sweet, sweet UCLA paychecks won't be coming in much longer. After all guys, you should know you're already on a short leash after your other failed, idiotic boondoogles (or did you forget #SFatPauley, #VetoSeto, and of course, Dump Dorrell).

With that, let's turn to this special edition of your Bruin Bites round-up of bits and pieces of news from around the UCLA-iverse after the jump.

Star-divide

 

It is apparent that Neuheisel will not be the head coach in January unless there is a miracle that would even leave the baby Jesus slack-jawed in awe. But what then? Who can Guerrero get to coach this program that isn’t even a shell of what it used to be.

There is something toxic going on in Westwood, something deeper than a mere cosmetic head coaching fix. I don’t know what it is. I can’t put my finger on it. But with a football program that can’t stop tripping over itself with Bob Toledo, Karl Dorrell and Neuheisel, there is one common thread: Dan Guerrero.

"People labeled me as done," he said. "I was like, 'I can't buy into that. I've got to make a comeback. I've got to stay positive.' Nobody really understands, but people are going to understand one day because I'm going to have a voice.

"I'm going to make people feel me. I'm going to make people feel my pain."

With that, try to enjoy the last few hours of the weekend before we get back to the work-week, despite the nasty taste in everyone's mouth following Dan Guerrero and Rick Neuheisel's latest major failure in Westwood.

GO BRUINS

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If UCLA loses

to a reeling Oregon St team next week, they’re just done. MAYBE there’s a 7-5 ish turnaround if they win that one and build some momentum.

by cfn_ms on Sep 18, 2011 3:04 PM PDT reply actions  

Not good.

Then DG would have an excuse to keep RN.

by 1970 on Sep 18, 2011 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Regardless of the circumstances and performance

I don’t think it’s right to root for our boys to lose, just so one of our former Bruins will lose his job.

by Aces-UCLA on Sep 18, 2011 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, it comes down to pick your poison then.

Moot point. After these 3 games, I doubt very much if We will win 7. 5 is being very generous. We barely beat SJS. OSU and WSU were always winnable, but now not so sure. My guess is that we will win 5 and RN will be terminated. I can hear Reagan saying to Carter, “There you go again.”

by 1970 on Sep 18, 2011 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Didn't DG just get a raise?

I am not certain but I think I recently read that Dan just got a bump in salary.

 My personal opinion is that even if UCLA fires Rick he will be replaced by another cheap hire and once again the Bruins will get exactly what they pay for.

by 110 South on Sep 18, 2011 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure if UCLA, the institution, deliberately hires cheap because they want to save money

I thought the UC Board of Regents has to approve a salary for a head coach? And that may be an obstacle.

I don’t know, the reason I say this is because it makes very little sense from a financial point of view to on purposely hire a cheap and poor quality coach. Think about it. If you are giving a coach a contract of 5 years and paying him 1.2 million per year, it does cost a lot in the long term to go through multiple poor coaches who do little to bring in additional revenue (because they suck and this causes less fans to watch games, buy tickets, and merchandise) and also can be costly because they are fired after the 3rd or 4th year and the university has to buy out the rest of their contract.

An analogy is like buying a cheap watch and an expensive watch. It makes sense for anyone to buy a $500 pair o dress shoes and keep it for many years instead of buying a pair of cheap $80 dress shoes watch that lasts for 3 months before it rips apart.

But if they ARE deliberately choosing cheap coaches and buying low quality shoes just because they “think” they are saving money, then well, they really are idiots. They need some real financial consultants in Morgan Center then.

by notaznguy on Sep 18, 2011 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bureaucrats are making the decisions

You are correct in what you are saying but you are forgetting that UCLA is run by a bunch of bureaucrats with zero business sense that do not make logical decisions. They just want to hire a coach for a certain low dollar amount believing they are saving money. They did not take into account the amount of additional money that a top dollar coach will make the university by bringing the football program to greatness.

by 110 South on Sep 18, 2011 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, it's a UCLA problem

Cal has had no problem finding a way to find big money to spend on Tedford.

From what I could find at USA Today and the Examiner, he made $2.8 million in 2009, followed by $2.3 million in 2010.

Last time I checked, we both have the same institutional issues (academics and the UC bureaucracy), so while Cal is doing a wholesale renovation of Memorial Stadium, has some sharp uniforms, apparently something resembling brand promotion, and is building new athletic facilities, what the f**k is our excuse?

Oh yeah, we have that f**king failure Dan Guerrero in charge. It’s a DG problem, not a UC problem.

by Bellerophon on Sep 18, 2011 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

+1

There is no reason we should be on an uneven playing field with Cal. We are sister campuses in the same university system. What is the difference between us? Their administration is pushing them forward. Our administration is holding us back.

greg in denver, U.C.L.A. guy for life - BruinsNation.com

by gbruin on Sep 18, 2011 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Chicago Cubs come to mind..

..a franchise that has had 100 years (or more) to get back into a World series let alone win one. and they have failed. One would think that some genius would have the forethought and wherewithal to put together a plan to build up a program (either the Cubs or the Bruins) that would produce a winner. But so long as they put your butts in the seats and can make the kind of money they do on UCLA athletics, there’s no real motivation to do so.

So, until the mindset over at the Jay-Dee Center changes, expect this to continue through mediocre coach after coach after coach after coach.

By the way, I would not exactly say that the new Cal uniforms are sharp. In my considered opinion, they’re only one step above the Oregon Dux manhole cover pattern jerseys.

by WHP '68 on Sep 18, 2011 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm glad to see you're back

And I agree that uniforms are a matter of personal choice and style. But, as someone who grew up in the Bay Area, and who has a lot of family and friends who are Cal people, I think these current uniforms (especially the gold uniform with white pants) look a lot sharper than anything else the Golden Bears have worn in quite some time.

I would like to see their helmets return to the simple navy blue with gold Cal script rather than the kind of lame stripe they have going on now.

But even if you think their uniforms are ugly, they’re smart enough to make a bit of a change (because for whatever reason, these young recruits think that kind of stuff, esp. Oregon, is cool) and every recruiting advantage (within the rules of course) helps.

by Bellerophon on Sep 18, 2011 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

On second thought..

..perhaps i was a bit too hasty about the Cal uniforms. I think I got confused with the ones they wore a couple of years ago? Dunno. But a second look tells me they are WHOLE LOT BETTER than the O-DUX abortions.

Your point about the kids thinking uniforms are cool counting more than we sclerotic old men is absolutely valid. Still..one thing to be grateful for is that UCLA has not gotten onto the hip-hop uniform bandwagon. consistently tasteful.

As for being back, I drop in form time to time but am afraid to post too much because of my innate cynicism.(That’s the way it is with an old guy.) You all are correct about incessant negativism but I think the inability for the AD to tell CRN he would have to move on was a misstep; we’re only prolonging the agony.

Of course, the prevailing sentiment here about telling DG it’s time to go is right on as well. The problem is systemic.

by WHP '68 on Sep 19, 2011 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Geezers Unite!

The uniforms are awful.

Oregon’s uniforms used to be classy. Now their just nonsense. If I was a Maryland alum, I would only attend a game with a bag over my head.

There is a reason why teams use “throwback uniforms.” It’s because they generally looked better. Could you see Sandy Koufax’s classic windup and delivery with baggy pants that sagged down below his heels?

by Fox 71 on Sep 19, 2011 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

+1000

Tired of BS excuses of admins with zero vision to turn things around. 13 years is enough!

by Bruin'96 on Sep 18, 2011 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Should I seek help??

Woke up this morning wanting to die.

Please get rid of Guerro and Neu now!!!

by carlodibi on Sep 18, 2011 3:04 PM PDT reply actions  

Yes

And if you don’t have anything intelligible to add, do not post here.

by Nestor on Sep 18, 2011 3:34 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Our football program is a joke...

Aside from us being homers we are a complete joke from outsiders.
Bruin Nation is covering an irrelevant football program. What else is there to say until some major change is made? we can talk all the analysis and stats all we want. But ask an outsider or hater(SC) and all they need to tell you in one word about UCLA football…SUCK.

Not even the mighty bruin nation can do shit about it.
we have been irrelevant for years.

by carlodibi on Sep 18, 2011 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

You wont get another warning

If we see you spam this place with one more gibberish rant you will be gone. We understand letting it out a bit in a post game thread but the way you have been spamming since then hijacking thoughtful frontpage posts is unacceptable. This will be your last warning.

by Nestor on Sep 18, 2011 6:16 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

What Would Rick Do?

RN says he’s a UCLA fan, too. I believe him. What would he — as a fan — do if UCLA’s coach over the last 4 years was 16-24 despite having strong recruiting classes? What would RN do if the current coach kept starting the wrong QB, kept a dominating runner like DC off the field, had a defense that couldn’t tackle? What would RN do if the coach kept putting in frozen hands receivers and punt returners whose highlight films are fair catches without fumbles?

What would RN do? He’d demand the guy be FIRED on the spot. What will Dan Guerrero do? Continue to pocket his undeserved paycheck and let RN slide because, after all, he’s got another year on his contract and DG doesn’t want to have to pay it off by firing RN.

I wrote a polite letter yesterday to Chancellor Block. I want UCLA to be like the ‘Furd, not like San Jose State. But if RN and DG had any integrity, they’d be handing in their resignation letters to Block now, and allowing a new AD and HC to come in and clean house. The alumni, the current students and the current players all deserve better.

by BrendonBruin on Sep 18, 2011 3:44 PM PDT reply actions  

thank you Bellerophon!

What did we gain by keeping Norm Chow around for the end of our last 4-8 season? What will we gain by keeping Rick until the end of this season? An obvious decision is staring Guerror in the face. Even the commentators hinted that Neu has lost this team, saying that “the atmosphere in the huddle was completely flat” maybe getting BLOWN OUT on national TV twice a year will do that to a program. I can no longer watch Sean Westgate do belly flops trying to catch superior athletes while Owa sits and watches. I can’t Prince throw 3 picks in one quarter while Brehaut sits without a helmet on. I can’t watch a twelve men on the field penalty on 3rd and 1 when we have Derrick Coleman on the team. We have athletes. We don’t have a coach.

by Strathmore&Gayley on Sep 18, 2011 4:35 PM PDT reply actions  

One interesting thing at the student section

Someone started to flap his wings like the fans did in the movie Angels In the Outfield. You know when someone does this, your program is as good as ****ed.

Will God send some heavenly bears from the sky to help the Bruins win the pennant? I mean Pac 12…

by notaznguy on Sep 18, 2011 5:33 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm really bummed for Sheller

Back in the spring, I was pretty optimistic about finally seeing our healthy first string offensive line getting a chance to play together: Baca, Sheller, Maiava, Ward, Williams.

Alas, that lineup played together for almost 3 quarters. Almost. FML.

greg in denver, U.C.L.A. guy for life - BruinsNation.com

by gbruin on Sep 18, 2011 6:11 PM PDT reply actions  

I was really happy when I heard that he was eligible for this season.

He was one of the guys, last year, that always seemed to get the job done. Now this.
I hope he recovers quickly and completely. he will be missed.

Been a Bruin since birth

by LongtimeBru on Sep 18, 2011 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Big Loss

Sheller also flexes as the backup for the tackle position. Feel for the kid.

by BlueReign on Sep 18, 2011 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

*Harris, not Williams

sorry. my mistake.

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by gbruin on Sep 19, 2011 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Some good news?

Brehaut named starter per Gold:

http://twitter.com/TheCoolSub/status/115593454951743489

I know this shouldn’t be a surprise for anyone but honestly, I was still happy to see this

by shipphappens on Sep 18, 2011 6:18 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

The reply to this should be

“Duh”, but as we know, we can’t take anything for granted this year. Who would have thought that Price would start against UT, let alone remain in the game for so long?

by ucla717274 on Sep 18, 2011 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think CRN must have been dreaming of a Prince led miracle

win reminiscing over last year in Austin and giving Prince a shot at redemption. A completely healthy and well practiced Prince might have performed better, but CRN should have realized Prince was neither physically nor mentally ready to start a high profile game like this one.

by bruinhawk on Sep 18, 2011 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed

That’s why I blame Neu more than Prince. Prince is a gamer who wanted to play and gave what little he had on Saturday. His coach should have known better. I don’t know what he is thinking.

greg in denver, U.C.L.A. guy for life - BruinsNation.com

by gbruin on Sep 18, 2011 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

+1

How many games has Prince started that he was healthy and well practiced? I would bet, not more than one or maybe two. I have always been a Prince backer, at least up until last week. Brehaut should have started, period. Prince should have been pulled after the first interception. His passing wasn’t sharp to say the least and his running, though good, was terminated prematurely either by design or fear of injury. Either way, he should not have been in there. Not yesterday anyway.

Been a Bruin since birth

by LongtimeBru on Sep 18, 2011 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can't say I'm happy to say this

Prince must be in a coma, and have had at least one limb amputated. Otherwise, he would be named the starte, based on what’s happened in the past. Poor Kevin. I hope he gets out of the ICU soon.

by Fox 71 on Sep 18, 2011 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol

Here’s to a speedy recovery for KP

by shipphappens on Sep 19, 2011 7:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

The team has no drive, or urgency to succeed

I think this has a big part to do with the audience size. There’s gotta be a reason you play to win other than to raise your stats and get drafted. I think a big part of that is playing for your peers, playing for the community, and living up to expectations. As much as CRN can fill a passion bucket, it continually empties when you play in a half filled Rose Bowl. That’s Guerrero’s responsibility, and he’s failed miserably at that. Look at the Basketball seating debacle and the countless times where we had fairly local games both at the Staple Center, and Arizona. Other schools bussed their students to the game, UCLA didn’t. Look at the mess with the Girls Basketball team, having a higher seed, but playing at the home court of the opponent. Or look at the dilapidated condition of Robinson Stadium. It’s a bunch of self inflicted wounds from Guerrero.

CRN failed as head coach, and he was much worst than Dorell. However, the one consistency through this whole decade of missed opportunities was Guerrero. It feels like Guerrero has been smooching to get a promotion in a higher position in the NCAA, but this has cost the university dearly.

by wingsabre on Sep 18, 2011 6:32 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

If the team has no drive nor urgency to succeed

responsibility for that has to be pinned on the coach, no? The low attendance has to to hurt team morale,but ultimately, its got to come down to the head coach, I think.

by bruinhawk on Sep 18, 2011 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not contesting that fact. I'm saying it's not all CRN's fault either.

The program as a whole has been stuck in mediocrity for more than a decade. CRN hasn’t been there that long. The same theme, the same issues have been there even before Dorelle, or CRN. Neu is essentially a dead man walking. Unless a miracle happens, he’s gone. The issue is, how fundamentally broken the system is at Westwood, and Guerrero is as much part of the problem these years as Neu. Replacing the head coach will only be a superficial fix. More has to be done.

by wingsabre on Sep 19, 2011 12:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't get it with the administration.....

shouldn’t they know football is the major revenue source for college sports? As much as it want UCLA to excel in academics and the minor sports venues, where they like football or not, its a huge part of the national big school environment, so shouldn’t the admin want the Bruins to excel in football for school pride and money?

by bruinhawk on Sep 19, 2011 8:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, the administration should know that abandoning football is the wrong choice.

And yes, Chamberlain’s government should have known that appeasment in Munich was the wrong choice.

by Fox 71 on Sep 19, 2011 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh they want it to excel

the way you want your lemonade stand to make you a millionaire.

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Sep 19, 2011 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

brilliant

greg in denver, U.C.L.A. guy for life - BruinsNation.com

by gbruin on Sep 19, 2011 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Football is king

Ask the Big East.

greg in denver, U.C.L.A. guy for life - BruinsNation.com

by gbruin on Sep 19, 2011 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Perhaps the fall in revenues by fewer butts being in the seats this year

will be a major wake-up call at Morgan Center. If it ins’t, then both Guerrero and even the Chancellor should be replaced.

by bornagainbruin on Sep 19, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Technically no. The Pac-12 deal has given the school money

They may break even, so they’ll just stay in limbo while other schools get ahead.

by wingsabre on Sep 19, 2011 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Does anyone have

Urban Meyers e-mail address?

"Success is never final, Failure is never fatal. It's Courage that counts" - John Wooden.

by TheUclan on Sep 18, 2011 7:22 PM PDT reply actions  

Tackling in practice...

The old adage, ‘you play the way you practice’ is so true in this case. We are not tackling in practice, so we don’t do it in games very well.

Question: What the hell is the Scout Team there for?

I say, let ’em go at it. Things are not working as is, they need to take more risks and this is one of them.

by rich87 on Sep 18, 2011 7:44 PM PDT reply actions  

+1. There is just no room for excuses this year for two reasons:

1) Depth. There is absolutely no excuse to skimp on going “live” in practice, especially considering our depth is as good as it’s been in years.

2) Look at other teams, such as SuC. SuC has cut way back on practicing “live” due to their perceived lack of depth, yet they haven’t had nearly the tackling issues we’ve had.

Could it be that our coaches don’t know how to coach, instead of just not practicing enough the right way?

by bornagainbruin on Sep 19, 2011 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tommy Lasorda's Pre-Game Speech

I have no idea what Tommy told our guys BEFORE the game, but here is the actual transcript of the POSTGAME speech given by Coach Harris of the Adams University Atoms:

“Y’know When you were a baby, in your crib, and your father looked down at you, he had but one hope, someday my son will grow to be a man. Look at you now, you just got your asses whhhipped by a bunch of god damn nerds, NEEEEEEERRRRRDDDDDS.Well if I was you I’d do something about it. I would get up and I would redeem myself, in the eyes of my father, my maker and my coach.”

Now THAT’S a speech!

by Alcides on Sep 18, 2011 8:33 PM PDT reply actions  

Pitt and Cuse

With their moves to the ACC and UCONN & Rutgers seeking membership into the ACC, the OU/OK St/UT/TT move is gaining steam.

If so, without major changes in how things are done, we’ll continue to be an irrelevant program.

by BlueReign on Sep 18, 2011 8:37 PM PDT reply actions  

Subtraction by addition

We automatically drop 3 places in conference hierarchy.

greg in denver, U.C.L.A. guy for life - BruinsNation.com

by gbruin on Sep 18, 2011 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agree

UCLA must decide whether they want a high profile program or if being irrelevant is perfectly fine

by BlueReign on Sep 18, 2011 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

We are part of U.C.L.A.

And we need to let the rest of the gang know that irrelevance is not acceptable.

greg in denver, U.C.L.A. guy for life - BruinsNation.com

by gbruin on Sep 18, 2011 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Campaign RN for AD!!

IIRC this had been brought up before. I think most would agree that RN has a lot of heart for all things blue and gold, and that he is a great spokesman for our beloved university. With that said, maybe RN is the right guy for the wrong job. He may love coaching, but even he’s gotta know that he ain’t getting it done and Bruins deserve better. I gotta believe that Neuheisel loves UCLA too much to not face reality. I think we’ve said it before, “he gets it.” So maybe we don’t campaign for RN to be fired, but we just campaign for him to replace DG and just have DG fired.

by tommybruin on Sep 18, 2011 9:15 PM PDT reply actions  

I coudn't support that.

Too conservative (read scarey). No creativity. May even give dirty looks to risk taking (read winning) coaches within our program. Nope. Back to the NFL or practice law. Same consideration Karl got – zippo. Leadership wise, Rick has become Walt Hazzard to me… great player, yet, Hazzardous to our program.

U-C-L-A Fight, Fight, Fight! Go Bruins!
Go Lakers! Go Dodgers! Go Angels!

by Bruins78 on Sep 18, 2011 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

But Lasorda has credibility with the Dodgers and with MLB

We Bruins might support Neu is this role, but what other schools/conferences/media/public would take him seriously at this point?

greg in denver, U.C.L.A. guy for life - BruinsNation.com

by gbruin on Sep 19, 2011 6:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure that matters.

How can any other schools/conferences/media/public take Guerrerror seriously? But you’re probalby right. Neither of them should be the AD.

If you were granted one wish by the magic genie, who would you have as athletic director? (No, you can’t say Ethical Pat.)

by Fox 71 on Sep 19, 2011 7:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Larry Scott?

Kidding. Partly.

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by gbruin on Sep 19, 2011 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bellerophon: Re: "My Poor Attempt at Defending Dan Guerrero"

I ask only one question. Would we be having this discussion about Dan Guerrero and what you call “the culture of mediocrity” if our football team was having good success? If we had gone 8-4 last year instead of 4-8 and were now 3-0 this year would we be talking about “the culture of mediocrity”.

What is really driving all of this is the poor showing of our football team which is understandable, because along with basketball that’s what most UCLA fans care the most about. You know as well as I that we wouldn’t be having this discussion if our football team were now successful. If you want to blame CRN that’s fine, because he’s the coach, and he’s responsible for the performance of the football team.

Dan Guerrero’s role is not to coach the football team. His role is to hire and fire coaches. So if you want to blame him you have to make the case that it was an obvious mistake for him to hire CRN at the time he was hired. I don’t think you can make that case. Or you have to make the case that he should have fired him before this season started. There might be a case made for that, but most people at Bruins Nation thought that CRN should be given one more year.

If you can’t make the case that Dan Guerrero’s decision to hire CRN was a poor decision based on what was known at the time he made it or you can’t make the case that Dan Guerrero’s decision not to fire CRN is based on obviously poor judgment then I don’t think you have a case against Dan Guerrero. This is a specific problem with the football team, and I think it misses the point to turn it into some generalized problem with the whole UCLA athletic department.

 

by RogerT on Sep 19, 2011 3:56 AM PDT reply actions  

The issues with how this AD has been run

Has been chronicled all through offseason. It’s not just about results on the football field. You can’t assert that B and others are just blasting AD over football after the methodical case they have been building for months. Just one fanpost from you during the season doesn’t do much to counter it.

It’s what you get when you show up here just for the season. You sound out of touch and uninformed.

by Nestor on Sep 19, 2011 5:14 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Roger T, you have a great point.

If Guerrerror were doing a great job, would there be such a loud call for his removal? No. I think I can safely make that an absolute, unconditional no. As we used to say back in the old days, and pardon the crudeness, if my aunt had balls, she would be my uncle.

That’s the good thing about hypothetical questions – they can be tailored so that the answer is what you want it to be. Unfortunately, reality sometimes interferes. We have a do-nothing athletic director who hired CTSS (sorry, Coach Neuheisel, but I have come to the point where I just can’t use the title “coach” with you) but hamstrung him from the outset by requiring him to have assistants he didn’t select or want. This is the same guy who presided over the Pauley renovation disaster, who wouldn’t back up our brilliant women’s basketball coach when the tournament sites were named, and who wouldn’t do what had to be done to keep that coach. This is the guy with a baseball background who won’t do what has to be done to refurbish our home baseball field. I believe that all of this reality and more are detailed elsewhere in the annals of the BN. (I love the word “annals.” I wish just once I could see an actual “annal,” but I digress.)

I reiterate. You have a good point. If Guerrerror were doing a great job, we probably would not be calling for him to be fired. Let’s continue this thread. What else is happening in your alternative history? Suppose UCLA had been established in East Los Angeles instead of Westwood? Would we have an on-campus stadium by now? Suppose Coach had taken the job in Minnesota. What would our basketball program had been like? What if monsters from outer space came and ate everyone? Well, I guess if monsters from outer space came and ate everyone, that would pretty much end it.

by Fox 71 on Sep 19, 2011 7:00 AM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

The monsters from outer space

would eat the Trogans first, at least.

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Sep 19, 2011 8:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Your middle paragraph

That’s the opening argument for the prosecution.

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by gbruin on Sep 19, 2011 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Study the Texas film - not what the Bruins did but what Texas did on defense and offense!

Texas replaced the two coordinators.

Texas planted their starting quarterback on the 3rd string.

The Texas defense came hard on 2nd and 3rd and long.

Texas went with new quarterbacks who looked like they knew what they were doing.

Our QBs are so busy trying to read the late signals from the sidelines that they don’t have the time to get settled and execute.

Let Texas be the model of a program that turned it around quickly. I’m serious about this one.

by Steve Nakamoto on Sep 19, 2011 9:25 AM PDT reply actions  

Hundley??

Does anyone feel we should see what Hundley can do?? I know he wants to redshirt if not getting too many touches, but when do we abandon the past and start looking to the future??

Bruin 1986

by Crummies on Sep 19, 2011 3:09 PM PDT reply actions  

No

The best thing Rick can do for the program at this point (besides resign and decline his buyout) is to leave 4 full years of eligibility for Hundley for the next regime and red-shirt him. The last thing I want is for Rick’s philosophy infecting this young man’s mind.

by Blue Me on Sep 19, 2011 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tracy Pierson was on 710AM last night

He said Hundley isn’t close to being ready, mainly because he doesn’t know much of the playbook and doesn’t have his timing down. Accuracy also an issue.

by bornagainbruin on Sep 20, 2011 7:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

BN Twothpny is So right man!

1. Jeff Locke is our whole entire team.
2. Rick becomes the new AD with heavy recruiting responsiblities. Cash bonus’ on the table for BN & BG and others to review.
3. Our play book looks Twiggy, svelte.
4. DG becomes our go to Pac-12 meetings guy. DG, lots of food & spirits.
5. Make sure that KP remains in the mix. We all know about injuries.
6. Keep our Freshman QG redshirted. We don’t to waste what could be our future.
Go Bruins

by Ol'Blue&Gold on Sep 19, 2011 4:00 PM PDT reply actions  

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