Tosh Lupoi Leaving Cal for Washington, Opens Door for UCLA on the Recruiting Trail
Usually the big recruiting news comes from an all-star game when a slew or recruits commit or on National Signing Day when the last remaining blue chip guys put pen to paper and make their choices. This year, the biggest recruiting news in the Pac-12 is coming on a Monday in January and it is huge news. Steve Sarkisian has poached Tosh Lupoi from Cal, which is a big get for Washington, but it is an even bigger blow to Cal that basically makes it open season on the excellent recruiting class that they were putting together in Berkeley. A recruiting class filled with recruits who were also eying UCLA and may start inching their way towards Westwood in the next two weeks.
Since being hired by Cal in 2008, Lupoi has emerged as the top recruiter in the Pac-12. There isn't even a little bit of doubt about that either. Lupoi was named National Recruiter of the Year by Rivals in 2008 for the work he did putting together that class and he was topping himself this year. The Bears had a sterling recruiting class lined up, headed by their pickups at the Army All-American Game and almost all of them were recruited by Lupoi.
Shaq Thompson, the number three player in the country? A Lupoi guy. Ellis McCarthy, the number two defensive tackle in the country? A Lupoi guy. Jordan Payton? Yup, another Lupoi guy. Michael Barton and Freddie Tagaloa? Also Lupoi guys.
Lupoi was the Golden Bears' ace, accounting for almost all of their top recruits with all speaking glowingly after committing and describing the great relationship they had with him as much as the school or program itself.
Now that Lupoi is gone, it's open season and you can bet that Jim Mora, Adrian Klemm and the rest of the coaching staff that has done a fantastic job so far will be on these Cal commits. Thompson and McCarthy are the two prizes of that recruiting class and both were considering UCLA before hopping on the Lupoi bandwagon. Payton was also considering the Bruins and all of the Cal commits could reconsider things now, getting a look at the new UCLA staff that wasn't around when they originally chose the Bears.
It's not just the Cal commits that can be had now either. The Bears were in on several top uncommitted guys that the Bruins were chasing. Now that Lupoi, who was the point recruiter on them as well, isn't with the Bears, the Bruins just got a leg up. That includes someone like Aziz Shittu, who is as high as number 27 nationally on Rivals' top 100. Considered a Cal lean, Shittu was also considering UCLA and we can already see the fallout of Lupoi's move with him.
He's not the only one surprised at Lupoi's move. Shaq Thompson tweeted something similar.
This doesn't mean either is UCLA bound or eliminating Cal. As Shaq said, he has thinking to do. I'm sure all these kids to. They have a big decision coming up and maybe they still like Cal, but if you need proof that Lupoi was a major, major part of the Cal recruiting class, you have it right there.
Of course, the other side of this is that Washington just got stronger. This is a great hire by Sarkisian. We'll have to see how Lupoi's credibility is hurt by leaving Cal after selling kids on Cal solidarity, but even if it's hurt, he's one hell of a recruiter. Combined with Justin Wilcox taking over at defensive coordinator, Sarkisian did a lot to strengthen his program in the last couple weeks.
For now though, this is about Cal and the hit the Golden Bears are going to take. Lupoi is gone and that recruiting class is on shaky ground. UCLA has a chance to pounce and More has a chance to walk away from his first National Signing Day with a gem of a class. It'll be a fun 16 days to National Signing Day in Westwood.
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Crazy to me
how much impact a D Line coach can have on guys who don’t even play that position. Not a criticism of the recruits, just something I’ve never been able to fully understand. Hopefully Coach Klemm is working the phones hard today.
Wilcox
See what a Wilcox hire does. Wilcox was Lupoi’s mentor early in his career. This could have been at UCLA. Mora’s put together a great staff thus far, so I shouldn’t being complaining too much. However, with Wilcox and Lupoi together in WA I’m now nervous about our DC hire. Can we keep pace? Is Mora just as good as Wilcox – I don’t know that answer yet.
This is huge for many reasons
(1) The most obvious impact is that this puts UCLA in the game for a lot of guys who were Cal commits. It doesn’t mean we’ll get them, but it gives us a foothold, especially on recruits who we were serious contenders for, like Ellis McCarthy (his parents are big UCLA fans) and Jordan Peyton (SoCal kid who was a Lupoi guy).
(2) This has to hurt Lupoi’s recruiting credibility for the next few seasons. He’ll still be a great recruiter, but this is big news in recruiting circles on the West Coast, and there is no doubt that next season, recruits and parents are going to ask him why they should sign off on Washington, why they should believe him, after he bolted on his own alma mater, RichRod-style, for presumably a bigger pay-day. It’s not a lot, but there will be a bit of a doubt in people’s minds about his sincerity when he tries to sell crap like “Cal Gang for Life” at Washington. All of a sudden, Adrian Klemm may have just become the conference’s best, most credible, young recruiter, and he’s only been on the job for a short time. Yes, he left SMU, but for a Los Angeles guy, it’s not hard to explain wanting to go home and go to a big-name program in a BCS conference. Klemm can credibly explain his move: Lupoi will have a much harder time doing the same.
All-in-all, this is a huge get for Washington and a massive blow to Cal, especially with signing day only a few weeks away. Lupoi basically just crippled Cal’s recruiting this season and if they lose McCarthy to UCLA (and they’re certain to lose Dozier to Washington), their dream class is going to fall apart in front of them. Lupoi gone almost guarantees that Arik Armstead will not be a Golden Bear: he’s openly talked about wanting to play with his older brother Armond, who will be transferring as a graduate student from U$C, which means because of Pac-12 transfer rules, he’ll only be able to go to Notre Dame or Auburn (the two schools he’s leaning). With Lupoi gone and his brother unable to go to Berkeley, there’s no reason for Arik to go to Cal. Losing him will be a massive blow to Cal.
Wont hurt his recruiting
He will simply say I left when I realized UW is so much better than CAL…..
by Bruin Dad and Grad on Jan 16, 2012 2:13 PM PST up reply actions
If Lupoi’s half the recruiter he is purported to be, there won’t be much harm caused to his credibility beyond maybe this signing day. My guess is the three lines of attack will be: (a) I want to win championships/Rose Bowls and I felt like I had a better shot at UW to do that; (b) I want to be a coordinator/head coach some day, and it wasn’t going to happen at Cal; and (c ) I couldn’t pass up the opportunity to work with Justin Wilcox.
It happens every single season that coaches spend months – if not years – telling recruits how School A is more special than any other school on earth, and then they take a job and are on the phone the next day saying that School B is more special than any other school on earth. And the kids eat it up. A good recruiter will be a good recruiter anywhere.
fwi...
Biggens blog states that Tosh will visit Shaq next week to gauge his interest in Washington!
How is this viewed amongst insiders?
I don’t question Tosh’s credibility for changing schools. But I would question his credibility if he went after players he was recruiting to Cal. In my eyes that’s quite disingenuous and in poor taste.
But I’m not in the college recruiting business. Maybe it’s expected of him to convert Cal commits. Anyone know how the “code” works in these situations?
Klemm
has been doing the same exact thing for us. I don’t see anything wrong with it at all.
by LavinRuinedCollege on Jan 16, 2012 8:29 PM PST up reply actions
Tedford will no doubt be furious and behind closed doors will probably complain about Lupoi going after Cal commits. And then Tedford will hire a new assistant from some other staff and immediately ask whether there are any commitments from his old school he thinks they should try and poach.
I’m reminded of a story from years back when Lou Holtz was at Notre Dame and lost the #1 kicker in the country (Scott Bentley) they thought they had committed and Holtz called the kid up and screamed at him about how dishonorable it was and how the kid was a bad person from a bad family for backing out of a verbal commitment and made a huge fuss about how horrible it was for anyone to do something like that. By the next day Holtz had convinced a kicker committed to Vanderbilt to make the switch to Notre Dame. Didn’t see anything wrong with that.
Just the way it works. Cutthroat business; everybody likes to pretend they’re above it, though.
Doesn't that mean that they will most likely go to UW?
When Klemm and Mazzone went to UCLA, the a good size number went to UCLA also
Get rid of Adidas and switch to Nike
Screw Dan Gurrerror
depends on whether or not
the recruits in question prefer to stay in California.
Not accurate
We flipped a few guys, for sure, but not a “good size” number.
Klemm: Hulick (from SMU)
Martin: Owens (from Wash.); Lagace (from Wash.)
Mazzone: Adams; Orjioke (but not really, since neither were ASU commits, just kids ASU was recruiting)
A lot of the other guys were either already committed to us and re-committed once they heard what Klemm/Martin/Mazzone had to say, or they were guys that were targeted by them earlier at their prior jobs, but had not committed.
What we’re talking about is that Lupoi leaving for Cal makes guys who appeared solid on Cal and out-of-reach now back in play.
doesn't Tosh lose all credibility when he jumps now
How can any kid now trust that he will stay with washington? Presuming that he was touting the school (and not just the football program), how can any kid follow him when he was probably already telling them why Cal was a better school than Washington. I understand that many of these kids will follow blindly but I think it is very problematic for a recruiter to leave this late in the game.
"I was jk when I said Cal is heaven on earth"
“Now I know for a fact that UW is heaven on earth.”
Dump Dan!
by bruinclassof10 on Jan 16, 2012 2:18 PM PST up reply actions
I think
we get McCarthy for sure now. I’d say we now have a pretty good shot at Shittu and Jordan Payton may flip as well. I think the news will have the biggest impact on these three for us. Thompson probably ends up at UW or still at Cal.
I think Thompson stays at Cal
Roots are deep there and bro Syd’quan went there. If we get either Shittu or McCarthy, that’d be a real coup. If we get both, we can truly call our assistant coaches, ace recruiters. Payton would be icing on the cake.
Dump Dan!
by bruinclassof10 on Jan 16, 2012 5:57 PM PST up reply actions
I think Thompson ends up at UW
Not only is he close to Tosh but he’s really close to Wilcox as well
by bucknellbruin on Jan 16, 2012 6:03 PM PST up reply actions
We just landed McCarthy!
Let the dominoes begin to fall…
Dump Dan!
by bruinclassof10 on Jan 16, 2012 9:28 PM PST up reply actions
Recent tweet by Aziz Shittu
@AzizShittu
“Just Got Done With My Home Visit With #USC Coach Kiff Came Through”
uclak
I think we're going to see some of our commits
decommit and look elsewhere. We’ll also see some attrition among the guys currently in the program, which isn’t unusual when a new coach comes in.
Two roads diverged in a wood and I ā I tweeted my followers to ask which I should take
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Jan 16, 2012 6:31 PM PST up reply actions
It will be interesting
The coming weeks until national signing day. I’m also curious how our recruiting class is going to end up. The current number of recruits we have now is maxed out.
by Trueblue'09 on Jan 16, 2012 6:54 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Anyone check out the cal message boards?
There were over a thousand comments on this. Kinda surprised they let this guy get away, must have been given a huge boost in salary to leave cal. Also kinda surprised Tedford doesn’t get more heat given the performance of the last couple years.
As of 5 minutes ago
via Bruce Feldman on Twitter
“UCLA flips 5-star DT Ellis McCarthy. Irony is ex-Wash. asst Demetrice Martin helped flip him from Cal. RT @IAMKLEMM 8 CLAP!!!!!”
thoughts?
Great news
Hopefully this recruiting wave can keep our top recruits from looking elsewhere..hint, Aaron Porter.
by Trueblue'09 on Jan 16, 2012 8:59 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Five star Ellis McCarthy commits to UCLA
According to Brandon Huffman of Bruin Report online.
GO BRUINS.
But we can hate UW together, right?
Tough times up north. I understand the frustration.
greg in denver, U.C.L.A. guy for life - BruinsNation.com
Man...I would say you couldn't even imagine...
but then I remembered that you have Chianti Dan. So there’s that.
Lawrence Ross
Ha!
Well, you’ve got me where you’ve wanted me. I’ve turned around my UCLA degree (wife turned it right back around. That bad boy cost a pretty penny), and UCLA has registered on my hate meter. HOWEVER, Washington is now on super duper double plus ungood nuclear hate.
As for basketball, unless you guys put Josh Smith on a combo Charles Barkley weight program + the Kobe System, I think Cal can pull off the Pac 12 title.
Lawrence Ross
Damn you Kenny
this is so freaking disturbing. I have to stop coming to this thread.
But hey, what do I know. Iām just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

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