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SB Nation's Official Opposition to SOPA And PIPA

We imagine many here are aware that today a number of huge websites including Wikipedia have gone dark in opposition to the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) and its counterpart, the Protect IP Act (PIPA).

Today, our parent company SB Nation issued a statement opposing these proposed laws. Here is the crux of SB Nation's opposition, as written by the editor of SBNation.com, Chris Mottram:

In this age of new media, there are new and varied ways of using and sharing content that didn't exist just a few years ago, and content owners want to make sure that those uses don't go too far. The problem with SOPA as drafted is that the legislation could not only greatly reduce our ability to find the content we're looking for online, but it could also have serious implications for SB Nation and many of our other favorite sites.

Vox Media, Inc., the parent company of SB Nation (and BN), has also issued an official company statement laying out opposition to these laws, which you can read it here (HT Bleed Cubbie Blue).

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We normally do not discuss politics here. However, while this site is about UCLA athletics and almost everything pertaining to our alma mater, these laws are important for all of us to be aware of because they may have potential impact on SB Nation. We couldn't have this community without SBN (not sure how many of you know but BruinsNation was the first non-baseball blog on SBN and we take a lot of pride in that fact). So there you have it. If you want discuss these provisions, make sure you do it respectfully.

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Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) and its counterpart, the Protect IP Act (PIPA).

This is just another example of the length at which this federal administration will go to invade our individual privacy, freedom and liberty. This is unadulterated B.S. and needs to be stopped.

Call your congressman and your senators and express explicitly to knock off the nonsense and defeat both SOPA and PIPA.

These are typical of the kinds of invasions of our liberties in Washington that has to stop.

In November throw all these liberal minded A-holes out of office but today, and do not procrastinate, please take the time to CALL and demand the defeat of both acts.

Rest assured there will be further assaults by this current administration as they are like rust, they never stop.

'CaptainJack65'
Jack Metcalf

by captainjack65 on Jan 18, 2012 7:58 AM PST reply actions  

Please, Please Educate yourself on SOPA/PIPA

While the administration has not come out and supported SOPA/PIPA, nor has it hasn’t denounced it. The bill has bi-partisan support (Reps Lamar Smith-R, Howard Berman-D and Sens Boxer-D, and Hatch-R to name a few; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_legislators_who_support_SOPA_or_PIPA)

(disable JavaScript to read Wikipedia today)

But it also has bi-partisan opposition from representatives who understand that the good of the people comes before corporation’s interests. Many people like you are so busy hating the other side that you cant see that the government has been put up for sale to the highest bidder so corporations can pay to create unfair laws that increase their profits.

by mattpeters on Jan 18, 2012 8:30 AM PST up reply actions  

thanks, I was looking for that but gave up

I would prefer Obama to just come out and say that this needs specific big changes or it will get vetoed. Instead he stays vague on what he would do if it passes congress; “won’t support” doesn’t mean “will veto”.

by mattpeters on Jan 18, 2012 8:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Well it's good to know that your ignorance isn't limited to Bruin football

As mattpeters has explained above, you are so blind and caught up in the our team vs. their team paradigm that you don’t understand that your team is equally responsible for bending you and everyone else over on this legislation. You can’t even name the responsible parties involved, but you feel fit to sling mud anyway and completely ignore N’s final sentence.

by Tydides on Jan 18, 2012 8:41 AM PST up reply actions  

captainjack65

If you are not going to engage in a respectful manner, then you shouldn’t be engaging at all.

by Nestor on Jan 18, 2012 8:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Why not delete this post?

It’s the most offensive and ignorant comment on this whole thread, and it happens to be the first comment.

by Bruin_jim on Jan 18, 2012 5:02 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

If we don't get to it in time

If there are enough replies that demonstrate how stupid an original post is, might as well leave it up and let people tee off. Make an example of him, if you will.

by Tydides on Jan 18, 2012 5:25 PM PST up reply actions  

of course the people supporting this act

like NewsCorp/Fox/Murdoch and others are all the same people that have no problem obeying Chinese censorship guidelines and cooperate with the chinese govt to stifle free movement of information and democratization in exchange for access to the chinese marketplace.

They have no values other than money. To allow them any say in regulation means that regulation will just favor those with the most to gain economically from the regulation

by silverlakebruin on Jan 18, 2012 8:18 AM PST reply actions  

Many of the culprits are in our backyard as well

All of Hollywood and the entire music industry is behind this. They’re up against Silicon Valley and common sense. I don’t think it’s just my South Campus bias that makes me 100% behind the tech heads up north.

by Tydides on Jan 18, 2012 8:36 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Founder of one of today's blacked out sites on the issue
"Agreed," Ohanian responded. "I just wish we had been called to the table when this legislation was written. If you look — last year, $94 million was spent lobbying to get this bill — to get these bills made. It’s just so frustrating because we look at Congress and we can’t see them do anything that’s important. They can’t solve the problems of unemployment, they can’t solve the problems of the deficit. Yet as soon as a lobbyist shows up with $94 million, Democrats and Republicans line up to co-sponsor it. Something is wrong."

by Tydides on Jan 18, 2012 8:24 AM PST reply actions   2 recs

There is something wrong

Just show up at the doorstep of congress with a suitcase full of money and you have their vote. While I know that media piracy is an issue, this type of legislation is not the answer.

by Trueblue'09 on Jan 18, 2012 8:37 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

wow!

great find tydides, but also true

by UCLA_beer&mathematics on Jan 18, 2012 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

what's really funny

is that the Supreme Court has bound our hands as a Nation. With the decision make political contributions unlimited, not even our legislature can stop the money from pouring in. Even if they passed a bill that limited money in politics, the SCOTUS would rule that it is unconstitutional.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/22/us/politics/22scotus.html

by Bruin_jim on Jan 18, 2012 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

It's a broken system of government

where people that actually do want to make a difference and actually want to do work are either prevented from doing so, or are converted during the process

by Ganplosive on Jan 18, 2012 6:18 PM PST up reply actions  

If you find yourself in dire need of Wikipedia today

disable JavaScript, after you contact your congresspersons.

by mattpeters on Jan 18, 2012 8:32 AM PST reply actions  

I'm fairly certain your picture violates copyright

As do most of ours, come to think of it. I guess in the words of KP, “(We’re) f*cking out”.

by Tydides on Jan 18, 2012 8:45 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm claiming fair use

(Clearly not an IP attorney. This post in no way, shape, or form constitutes legal advice. Conduct yourselves accordingly.)

by Kenneth Powers on Jan 18, 2012 8:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Some were hilarious

I can only imagine if twitter and facebook shut down for 24hrs. It will definitely bring more awareness.

by Trueblue'09 on Jan 18, 2012 8:57 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

but then

you cant get a poke from grandma

lol joking i havent used fb in 2 years :P

by UCLA_beer&mathematics on Jan 18, 2012 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Of course Bruin Nation is going to be against SOPA, they steal/borrow content all day. I do enjoy it all, but let’s be honest…it’s stealing!

by UCLA'13 on Jan 18, 2012 8:51 AM PST reply actions  

This is a joke right?

Where and how we stole content? Give us specific examples.

You realize we established a culture of sharing which means every time we share content from somewhere else we go out of our way to give due credit and not only that we send traffic their way.

by Nestor on Jan 18, 2012 8:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Could be the images complaint

I’m betting most people aren’t aware of the deal SBN has cut to allow us to legally use most of the images used on our frontpage.

by Tydides on Jan 18, 2012 9:01 AM PST up reply actions  

under the terms of SOPA

almost every internet user “steals” content. whether its hyperlinking, an image, or a using a copyrighted word. That’s why if it passes, message boards and forums would not be allowed. There is no way to monitor everything to make sure no one “steals”

by zigggzzz on Jan 18, 2012 9:13 AM PST up reply actions  

I am surprised ...

… folks at Scout.com and Rivals.com are not being as proactive about this.

by Nestor on Jan 18, 2012 9:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Scout is owned by Murdoch

Scout is ownd by Fox sports, which is owned by Fox, which is owned by NewsCorp which is controlled by Murdoch.

Rivals is owned by Yahoo. I don’t know if they have taken a position. They are now fully corporately controlled with the ouster of the founders, so imagine they will take whatever position leads to a short term jump in their stock price.

by silverlakebruin on Jan 18, 2012 10:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Yahoo! is against the legislation(s)

Interesting point re. Scout and FoxSports. I thought there would be discussion on message boards though. I think it’s the message board culture (where information is often shared without attribution) that may be totally destroyed with this bill. Of course blogs would be impacted as well, but I’d assumed the concern from the message board folks would have more urgency behind it.

by Nestor on Jan 18, 2012 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I think he was talking about the UCLA letters found in every post and name

and how all the mods are using Greek copyrighted names that shall not be used without proper licenses /endsarcasm

by Ganplosive on Jan 18, 2012 6:20 PM PST up reply actions  

We checked with Zeus

He said the Greek names were ok with him.

greg in denver, U.C.L.A. guy for life - BruinsNation.com

by gbruin on Jan 18, 2012 10:50 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

but

did he sign a waiver though? lolol

by Ganplosive on Jan 19, 2012 9:15 PM PST up reply actions  

ucla13 is trolling

BN documents the link extremely well and honestly

by UCLA_beer&mathematics on Jan 18, 2012 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

That's why SOPA/PIPA are so disturbing

Sure you guys document the links well and honestly, but do you guys get their expressed written permission to post their content on BN? They could argue that BN is using their Intellectual Property in order to increase traffic (and ad revenue) to BN. Essentially, BN (and its parent companies) are making money off of their work, and under SOPA the producers of that content could file a complaint against SBNation and have it shut down.

It’s a huge can of worms.

by BillytheSid on Jan 18, 2012 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Why do you need permission to post their content?

If you post content on a free site, and we quote it and provide links to it, why the F do we need to get their permission? What’s the difference between that and using their own “share” button to email the link to other people? It’s completely idiotic.

Let’s get real: this is all about the music and movie industry getting pissed about piracy and throwing their weight around to get favorable legislation to prevent it. I don’t condone piracy at all, but it is up to THEM to figure out ways to protect their content, not the government. I find it hilarious that they run to the Big Brother to protect them, but as soon as you ask them to pitch in, they call the government socialist. It is pure unadulterated hypocrisy.

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Jan 18, 2012 5:56 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Totally in agreement

But it’s the sort of thing that could happen if SOPA and PIPA pass. This site and all its content are free for end users (us), but SBNation makes money on it via the ads at the top, bottom, and sides of the pages. The creators of that content could claim that SBNation is making money from the web traffic generated BY the very sharing of their content on SBNation, money that is NOT funneled back to the original creators of that content.

People COME to SBNation and similar websites for that very reason, to share content (photos, videos, articles, etc.) that could be considered copyrighted material. They want their piece of the pie.

by BillytheSid on Jan 18, 2012 6:32 PM PST up reply actions  

recommending

and it’s ok with me if anyone wants to read the intellectual property contained in my comment and reply to it.

greg in denver, U.C.L.A. guy for life - BruinsNation.com

by gbruin on Jan 18, 2012 10:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Quit stealing stupidity

greg in denver, U.C.L.A. guy for life - BruinsNation.com

by gbruin on Jan 18, 2012 4:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Censorship is the reaql crime

I like many others have always been against any form of censorship and limits on our first amendment rights. SOPA and PIPA just seem like the latest attempt to put limits on our rights. If the Congress really wants to help the USA bring the jobs and money home so that opportunities are here and not someplace else.

by john4justice on Jan 18, 2012 9:34 AM PST reply actions  

I honestly don't think the endgame here is about censorship

Although that may well be the most obvious consequence. It’s about creating an environment through which certain players can bleed/extort exorbitant sums from virtually anyone else, companies and individuals alike, using the law as a sledgehammer.

by Tydides on Jan 18, 2012 9:49 AM PST up reply actions  

This Is A Complex Issue Worthy of Non-Partisan Discussion

To an artist, writer or content creator, the copyright on intellectual property is as much an asset as is the TV set in your room or the car in your garage. It is the fruit of labor and should be paid for in the same manner that lawyers get paid for briefs and arguments and cooks get paid for cakes and casseroles.

There is a lot of disinformation and misinformed belief over the issue of what is copyrighted and the permitted uses. I’m sure that SBN has licensed the rights to the media it uses and has passed on those rights to its son and daughter sites. In that sense, individual licenses set the scope of use.

And, the copyright laws allow some uses, without licences.

So, the question asked in another thread here as to whether someone can use a photo and/or edit and use it, is not as simple as “it was taken by a state employee so it’s fair game”. Or, we took it off a state site so it’s ok. Actually, it may not be. It depends on how the “owner” of the copyright has licensed or given his rights. Not all work done at a university is owned by the university.

The problem with these bills is that one has to look very carefully at whose rights are purportedly protected. It really is all about money.

In the late ’90’s, the DGA and WGA realized that the “new media” , as it was known then, might well become the functional equivalent of TV — and the Guilds sarted to work hard to protect the content creators’ rights to profit from their work.

I find it interesting that the network world, on the one hand can argue against paying residuals for the use of content while on the other argue that they have an absolute right to control derivative type uses.

Polemics that tie this to political parties do not move the ball forward. As mentioned upthread, there is bipartisan interest in getting this right. What’s made this difficult is the infusion of massive amounts of money on one side of the equation.

The real problem is that few people really care or understand what’s at stake.

Yes, in the scope of life, one can see this as not important. But, for many people, it’s a “jobs and survival” issue. And for others it’s about encouraging creativity and expression in all spheres by protecting the right to both profit from one’s work and have some say in its dissemination.

I hope this is not too much of a rant and I’ve deliberately stayed away from arguing a position on the bills. Just thought I’d add a “worker’s” perspective.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Jan 18, 2012 9:57 AM PST reply actions  

The steadfast refusal to innovate is what gets me

Companies in almost every other industry have to adapt or die. The entertainment industry takes the content from the content creators and makes all their money on the distribution. They had a pretty cozy setup for decades with a captive audience with few viable alternatives. Then the Internet came along and rocked their world. Not only because of piracy, which existed before the Internet (you mean people can record radio/TV onto these blank cassette/VHS tapes!?), but because they no longer control the means of distribution because of sites like YouTube, where original creators can often bypass the middleman altogether and cut Big Media out of the loop and get paid directly.

Clamping down on uncontrolled distribution channels, even for legitimate purposes, is in their best interest. It forces everyone back into the clusterf&#k Big Media model of two decades ago. Somehow they got it into their heads that exorbitant profit per unit was their birthright, so screw lower margin but higher volume (at a fair price point) digital distribution, we’re gonna legislate and lobby our way out of this mess.

Refusal to innovate. Protecting a flawed, outdated, antiquated business model. Sounds like these guys “strap it on” every morning too.

by Tydides on Jan 18, 2012 10:45 AM PST up reply actions  

sounds familiar...

where have I seen this type of mindset play out?

by UCLA_beer&mathematics on Jan 18, 2012 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Yup

While SOPA/PIPA are problematic because they cause too much collateral damage (and won’t really affect the core problem) I think the main issue is copyright itself. It made sense as first invented but protects too much in this day and age. If someone wants to use a picture of Superman as their online avatar, or drawing fanart of Superman and putting it on DeviantArt, they’re technically committing copyright theft, which is ridiculous. At the same time, if some enterprising people get together and created a full Superman cartoon and sell it for $5 on the internet, that can start eating into DC’s profits.

I think the better way would be to keep trademark the way it is and expand fair use under copyright to include non-profit uses, but that’s just me. But I think a whole overhauling of how copyright (and other IP law) works in this day and age is needed, not just changing how enforcement works.

by Magnusblitz on Jan 18, 2012 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

The bottom line is

if you make a good enough product, people will pay for it, whether it’s at the movies, the DVD, the iTunes store, the CD, whatever it is. I don’t want to see “Transformers” on a bootlegged crappy handycam video, I want to see it on the big screen with the big sound system. If you’re not making money on your distribution, it’s probably because you’re paying too many assbags too much money. Too many crappy singers and actors who make a boatload of money but just plain suck, so no one wants to pay the exorbitant price for their movie or their album. The whole contract model is completely broken, and part of it is the artists’ and agents’ fault, the big studios and record companies and other IP owners are not the only culprits.

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Jan 18, 2012 6:08 PM PST up reply actions  

the best way to combat piracy is to offer an easy legal alternative

for example, any time someone posts a online streaming link for one of our games is grounds for this site to be shut down by SOPA/PIPA.

but given that UCLA fans are all over the country yet most UCLA games are only shown locally, the issue is that there’s no legal alternative for many of us. If the pac 12 network has a paid subscription where we could watch every game from any device, a lot of us would jump at the opportunity.

by Objection Penguin on Jan 18, 2012 11:06 AM PST reply actions  

+ a lot to your idea

but most UCLA games are available nationally if you have the right cable package. When I lived on the East Coast I used to have the Fox Sports package that normally carried UCLA games.

The battle on this issue is more about content companies like Time Warner – who want you to buy their whole smorgasboard package of cable content – vs people who want content to be indvidually purchased a la iTunes. HBO is owned by Time Warner, and they steadfastly refuse to put some of their highly popular shows onto iTunes or Netflix because it would undermine (a) HBO subscriptions and (b) DVD sales.

But I do agree strongly that the current balance is unlikely to be optimal – I would have much rather paid money for access to UCLA games than a Fox Sports package, and I imagine a lot of people balk at the idea of subscribing to a whole (non-UCLA) channel for access to a few football games.

by VeniceBruin on Jan 18, 2012 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

It is obnoxious not getting those games in HD though on FCSA/FCSP/FCSC.

And sometimes games aren’t available even on that package. When that happens, I’m going for an illegal feed.

by Kenneth Powers on Jan 18, 2012 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

The Cupcake and the Avatar

The other day, a small town photographer walked by the local bakery. The window was full of cupcakes of indescribable beauty. The aroma was just too much for him. He walked in, reached behind the counter, took one, peeled back the paper and ate it on his way out the door. He’d not gotten to the end of the block before he was stopped and arrested for shoplifting.

“But, it was only one cupcake — he had dozens of them. Not a big deal.” “Not to you” the baker said. “But, I make my living selling those cupcakes — one at a time. I have an investment in them — equipment, ingredients, rent, time. And, I have a family to feed. You can’t just walk in here and take a cupcake. It’s stealing.”

Interestingly enough, a few months later, the baker joined an online bakers’ forum. In need of an avatar, he grabbed a photo of a cupcake from a web site. Karma is a bitch. The copyright to the photo was owned by the local photographer — who promptly called the police and asked that the baker be arrested for theft. “But, it was only one use of the photograph — not a big deal” said the Baker. “Not to you” the photographer said. “But, I make my living selling those photographs — one at a time. I have an investment in them — equipment, rent, time. And, I have a family to feed. You can’t just take it. It’s stealing.”

Taking the copyrighted material of another, without compensation, and not within an exception to the copyright law is stealing.

What I don’t get is why it is somehow justifiable to take creative work but not the tangible things that the same type of labor produces. Why is it ok for a lawyer to take an artists’s work but not OK for an artist to demand free legal services?

Property rights are property rights — all should be respected.

In reality, the police would not arrest the baker for stealing copyrighted work. The truth is that to protect their work, artists have to hire lawyers. Do you think someone will get sued for using a copyrighted work as an avatar?Unlikely. I know several IP lawyers — they won’t get involved in a case unless there is a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow — at least $100,000 or more — no avatar case will generate those fees.

Rip off a $3.00 cupcake and the state prosecutes you. Rip off a work of art — you’ll probably get away with it.

The call for creating “new ways” of doing things in the intellectual property area is really rooted in the fact that, with the new media, it is almost impossible to protect work once it is put into use; that does not make the unauthorized use right.

If I could steal cupcakes without being detected or physical threat, would that make it right? If that’s so, why are we prosecuting wire fraud and hacking crimes?

This has little to do with the bills in question. However, when discussing them, I think we have to give more weight to the content which we claim we should be able to use without payment. To the creative, the content is the baker’s cupcake.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Jan 18, 2012 12:02 PM PST reply actions  

No one is saying it's not a problem

But your post here is ultimately irrelevant to the discussion at hand. I won’t agree or disagree with any of your points so as to not perpetuate this tangent and keep the focus on discussion of the actual bills under consideration and I suggest others stay on topic as well.

by Tydides on Jan 18, 2012 12:18 PM PST up reply actions  

There is a HUGE difference, class

When you consume that cupcake, it is not available for others to consume anymore, but that is not necessarily the case for IP. I fully understand stopping the distribution and sale of pirated movies and music. But is it now a crime to lend the book you bought to your neighbor? Where do you draw the line?

I think if a paid alternative is not available, sharing IP is not condemnable.

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Jan 18, 2012 6:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Loaning a book to a neighbor wouldn't be a crime.

But photocopying it and giving that to him would be.

by BillytheSid on Jan 18, 2012 6:35 PM PST up reply actions  

"Crime"

is what I have a problem with. Maybe a fine would be levied. Clearly selling a copy would be the real crime. But giving someone a copy, when they could just borrow your book…what if you borrow the book, make a copy for yourself, and give the book back? Who commits the crime then? It gets ridiculous. Most of us know what the clear cut cases are. It’s the ones in the gray area that get tricky.

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Jan 18, 2012 7:09 PM PST up reply actions  

It's not ridiculous and the law isn't that hard to figure out.

Where does the sense of entitlement to intellectual property come from? We don’t feel that way about other tangible goods and services.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Jan 18, 2012 7:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm not doing this to call you out

But do you remember this post? This was you asking for a stream for the Chaminade game in our game thread. Would you consider yourself to have done something wrong here? Given that you likely have a subscription to ESPN bundled up in the cable or satellite package I assume you have, I personally would say probably not. After all, you have paid for this channel, just you are unable to be by your own TV for one reason or another.

However, the argument could be made that you just stole Intellectual Property. After all, you didn’t pay for the subscription of the person behind the stream you’re watching. The Chaminade game that night was the intellectual property of ESPN, as they paid for, produced, and distributed the content, but you enjoyed it (or didn’t enjoy it since it was our basketball team) for free.

Now extend that argument to a SOPA/PIPA world where your question led to the posting of the link in the reply to your comment. ESPN/Disney now has the grounds to order our ISP to DNS filter (black out/censor) BN and possibly all of SBN for linking to copyrighted content. Did a frontpager do it? No. Doesn’t matter.

I’m not interested in getting into the argument about what constitutes stealing and how it is similar or dissimilar from copyright infringement, but make no mistake, the game you watched was ESPN’s cupcake. Should we delete such links in the future? Well, that’s what’s going to happen in the future for sure. Should BN and all of SBN be blocked because a user posted a link? Not if common sense prevails and these bills are killed.

by Tydides on Jan 18, 2012 8:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I actually have all of the sports packages -- paid for on cable.

But, for some reason, I do not always get the games that others get.

Are the streams unauthorized broadcasts? They actually also show up on my Roku.

If they are pirated, I’ll not watch them again. Good call.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Jan 18, 2012 9:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't have a Roku

So correct me if I’m wrong. I believe they have content that they have negotiated with content providers directly which is fair game. If, however, it is a rebroadcast of an ESPN feed, it would be highly unlikely to be legal. ESPN’s business model is built around browbeating cable and satellite companies with their considerable clout to bundle their programming with every available package (more on this in a fanpost I’m putting together later). They’ve even launched ESPN3 online to distribute their “excess” programming.

by Tydides on Jan 18, 2012 9:20 PM PST up reply actions  

My Roku is in storage

As best I recall, It is an authorized repackaging of sports content from diverse source from all over the world. Thngs like soccer, auto racing, and college sports.

It looks a lot like the streams — including commercials.

When I get it back, I’m going to take a more careful look at exactly where the broadcast comes from. I added channels from a Roku website. Some contained sports.

I realize how little I know about streams. Time to learn more.

I’m really glad this came up. I try really hard to honor IP rights. I even buy an ASCAP license so that I can play background music in my studio during sessions.

Thanks for waking me up.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Jan 18, 2012 9:29 PM PST up reply actions  

And, no, I don't think sites should be at risk because of the posts put up by members

my site is very small compared to BN and I’ve had to pull materials that I know were not posted appropriately.

BN does an incredible job of tryng to honor copyright or “firewall” material.

And, yes, I completely understand that the big guys are trying to coopt the promise of the ‘net to maintain their monopoly on content distribution. In the mid-90’s I was one of the first producers to move from TV to the ‘net; I anticipated the ability to stream content that would rival TV. I loved the idea that there would be a place for diverse content not controlled by the networks and cable companies. And, since then, I’ve watched as they have tried to coopt the ’net and destroy the promise of diverse, unfiltered content.

I was speaking to the other side of that battle — the need to ensure that the people who create that content are rewarded for their efforts.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Jan 18, 2012 9:21 PM PST up reply actions  

And to prove my post wasn't about calling you out specifically

A confession: I watched our game against Eastern Washington on a stream, so I’m as guilty as the next guy.

by Tydides on Jan 18, 2012 9:07 PM PST up reply actions  

When we "register" for the stream

what are we doing? Who did I give my information to?

I’m really curious now.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Jan 18, 2012 9:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Hal

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Jan 18, 2012 11:34 PM PST up reply actions  

HANDS OFF THE INTERNET...

will contact my officials and tell them so! This MUST NOT pass!

by GogetemBruins on Jan 18, 2012 5:06 PM PST reply actions  

speaking of all these streams..

anyone know where those of us behind the Great Firewall of China can watch some Bruins basketball? ha ha ha, JK… but seriously… not really though, kinda.

by Ganplosive on Jan 18, 2012 9:54 PM PST reply actions  

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