The Ben Howland All-Transfer Team
I will begin with a defense of Howland. Today there is a story about the "castaways", five players kicked off from various Pac-12 teams this year that could make a good enough team to beat many other Pac-12 teams this year. Howland is not alone in facing transfers and dismissals. And it would be unfair to entirely blame him as the problem/issue is much bigger than his team.
But where there is a lot of smoke, there is some fire. Thus let's discuss the Ben Howland UCLA all transfer team:
PG: Matt Carlino
SG Chace Stanback
SF: Reeves Nelson
PF: Mike Moser
C: Drew Gordon
Oh, and there's Bobo Morgan on the bench.
The Epic Fail
Mike Moser is now a leader for a very good UNLV team and the #5 rebounder in the nation. But Mike was never given a chance for the 2009-10 UCLA team. Mike Moser played a measly 70 minutes in his first year at UCLA. His 70 minutes were the fewest by any scholarship player that year. This was a terrible UCLA team that started 5 different players at center, had one big dismissed, one big had a career ending injury and another big played on a gimpy ankle. Yet Moser did not play.
But wait it gets worse: in the few minutes Moser did play he was playing small forward. Most of the few shots he did take were from downtown. So CBH had one of the nation's future best rebounders tagged as an outside shooter playing on the perimeter.
But I have not said the worst part. So who played over Moser on this 14-18 team? Senior Nikola Dragovic. This is not Moser like was waiting behind LRMAM. Dragovic was a terrible player on a terrible team.
So why did CBH play Dragovic over Moser? First of all, CBH seemingly made his first mistake in trying to make Moser a SF instead of a PF. Second, my best guess is that Dragovic was a senior, something that does not happen often these days. But shouldn't you at some point play for the future? And shouldn’t the play of the player in front matter? It seemed like Dragovic did everything humanly possible to be benched for a walk on, let alone a talented kid.
Last, Moser was by all accounts a good kid and CBH did not want him to go. Epic fail.
Not Even a Minute
Matt Carlino was recruited by UCLA very late in the process as a PG. It was a strange recruitment. He graduated from high school a year early to come to UCLA and decommitted from Indiana. The press release on his commitment specifically mentioned that he came to UCLA to be a PG. He wanted to come to PG U.
But by all accounts he never got even a shot to play PG. Which is strange when you think about it. This was not 2005-06 with two future pro point guards in JF and DC. This was a team which Lazeric Jones, a JC transfer, was going to be the starting PG. But even more curious was CBH's decision to give the backup job to Jerime Anderson.
The year before Jerime Anderson had played his way out of the job when UCLA did not have a backup. I would argue that Jerime was the worst player on the 2009-10 team who had allegedly spent most of his time partying with Bobo and had even been suspended for missing a rehab session. Jerime made no commitment to defense and was a big reason we went zone. Why the heck in this context did Carlino not even get a chance to be a backup PG?
Now to his credit Jerime did play defense that year. Jerime did play better. But you look at Jerime today and you see a guy who is playing close to his potential. He is a PG who can’t create his own shot, is prone to a bonehead mistake or two a game, and does not deal well with ball pressure, which is why the Oregon teams pressed us.
Meanwhile Matt Carlino is now the starting PG for a BYU team that is 17-5. His stat line across the board is better than Anderson’s in every offensive category and even rebounding. Carlino has had a double digit assist game, something Anderson has not done for his career. Carlino is not a great athlete who is going to be a great defender but neither is Anderson.
Carlino had a concussion in practice for UCLA but he left after Howland wouldn't play him in UCLA’s worst loss of the 2010-11 season, at home against Montana. In that game Jones fouled out and Anderson played poorly. We were desperate for three point shooting and still Carlino did not play a minute. CBH admitted afterwards that he should have played Carlino. But Carlino knew at that point, he was not going to get a shot to play and even less of a chance to play PG.
One last thing. A PG needs to deal with pressure and Carlino can. He is billed as replacing Jimmer Fredette at BYU, only the best player in BYU history. So while Anderson arguably cost us games this year when he missed a game after stealing a laptop, missed a game winning wide open three against Stanford, and made the foul of a three point shooter against Oregon that keyed their run; Carlino as a freshman is thriving under the pressure of replacing a legend.
Mistake number two.
The Head Cases
Although I listed Reeves Nelson as a small forward I realize he is a power forward. But that brings up an interesting point. Reeves is better suited to play the wing on defense than David Wear, who CBH again last week put out as a small forward. This is really a side point.
Drew Gordon and Reeves Nelson are fierce competitors and big talents. While some doubted Reeves' abilities, he proved he was a very good college player earning all Pac-10 honors last year. Drew Gordon is a even better talent. Both are messed up in the head.
Drew Gordon left UCLA because he wanted to run more. Really, you came to play for CBH because you wanted to play fast break running basketball? Gordon’s new team started last year 8-1 before Gordon became eligible. After Gordon was added to the team their record was 14-12. Now some of this was tougher competition but there were reports of Gordon causing some issues.
Of course too much has already been written here about Reeves. Reeves parents backed his dismissal and only criticized CBH for not being stricter sooner. Some times what makes an athlete really good makes them a bit crazy. No one worked out harder in the off season than Reeves. Reeves does not need a coach to motivate him to go to the gym and be told to practice. But Reeves does not work well with others.
But a great coach has to be able to deal with this problem talents and at the same time be careful not to recruit too many of them. I wrote about this earlier in a comment about Sidney Wicks.
So, maybe losing Reeves or Gordon is understandable. But having a Reeves and Gordon on the same team was a scary combination. CBH made a mistake, if not two, the only question is which and when (recruiting, not disciplining soon enough).
A Pass
Chance Stanback is the leading scorer on the #15 team in the nation and he is doing it all. Hitting from 3 at 47% clip, free throws at 84%, and FG at 50%. He is a good player who left after the 2007-08 season because he did not get much playing time. During UCLA’s 2007-08 campaign he played in 25 of 39 games for a total of 144 minutes.
But unlike Moser, this was a very good team that had it sights on a national title from day one. You look at the players ahead of him and it is hard to imagine getting him many minutes. Shoot, LMR, a former starting Final Four center, was a backup only getting 13 minutes a game.
Ironically Stanback may have left because he felt he may never have been good enough to crack a UCLA lineup. I think CBH deserves a pass on Stanback’s transfer. But I will add how could he find a 144 minutes for Stanback on that loaded team but only 70 for Moser on the 2009-10 disaster?
Today this is relevant to Norman Powell and maybe Anthony Stover. Neither are head cases nor playing for a team making a run at a title. Powell has more athletic ability than anyone on this list except maybe Moser. Yet, I wonder if De’End was not hurt/transferring would Powell be playing even less now or Moser like minutes?
And that just it. The fact the UCLA all transfer team happen is not all CBH’s fault, the fact that it would likely beat his current team is.
Go Bruins.
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“The fact the UCLA all transfer team happen is not all CBH’s fault, the fact that it would likely beat his current team is.”
Sad but oh so true.
by Bruin Dad and Grad on Jan 25, 2012 10:16 AM PST up reply actions
It just makes my blood boil reading this.
Someone should explain why Howland deserves to continue to coach at UCLA?
by cyberdbk on Jan 25, 2012 6:00 AM PST via mobile reply actions
No one should dare call for CBH’s job until donut dan is replaced.
by Big Bully on Jan 25, 2012 6:56 AM PST via mobile up reply actions

Winning is not a sometime thing; it's an all the time thing. You don't win once in a while; you don't do things right once in a while; you do them right all the time. Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing. ~ Vince Lombardi
Carlino is the greater mistake
We have not been strong at PG for a while. Jerime established that he was not a good D1 PG. Carlino should have been worked into the mix. Somebody missed on him. I don’t even get this one at all.
With Moser, one could say that CBH was giving more attention to THTO and Malcolm Lee. Most of us were ok with Moser behind these guys. Underestimating his potential was still a grave mistake.
Louisville, KY for UCLA class of '87
The thing is -- it's the lead up to Carlino that was even a bigger mistake
Howland desperately signed Carlino after whiffing on McCallum and Zieglar. We blogged all season how McCallum was not a feasible get. Yet Howland kept deluding himself to think UCLA had a shot. Instead he could have signed other local guards such as Spencer Dinwiddie or Spencer Holt who would have been solid pgs for us. Yet he kept his blind pursuit and then made the desperate signing of Carlino w/o doing much research at all. When Carlino came in he didn’t do much to keep him on. There was never any kind of recruiting/program building strategy in place by Howland and his FAILed staff.
Depressing, sobering, and more
Great post, DC. I’m developing a kink in my neck from all my head shaking. Rec’d.
Besides Howland’s whiffs of omission, such as with Moser, Carlino, et al, I think his whiffs of commission have been equally destructive. I’m thinking particularly of Nikola Dragovic. Over and above the deleterious effects of not giving enough minutes to some players, giving too many minutes to others has to tear at the fabric of the team.
Team chemistry, in a team game, is important. Playing a player who is selfish offensively and indifferent defensively just has to be a rot in the soul of the team.
Ugh!
The belgrade bricklayer over moser? Why god why!
by BruinArts on Jan 25, 2012 8:09 AM PST via mobile reply actions
We wrote tons of posts on that topic when it was unfolding ...
… and took a lot of heat from people who didn’t want to read any criticisms of Coach Howland.
Debatable
When Moser came in to UCLA, he was 6"7 ish and a scrawny 185 pounds (he’s sitting at around 210 now according to UNLV’s website). I doubt he could have handled the PF position at that time, but then again, we rarely got to see him play so predicting anything for him was impossible. The overarching problem was playing Dragovic, a player I try to block out of my memory. I don’t blame Howland for failing to identify the right position for Moser at the time. He needed to bulk up, which he did for the year he was redshirting for UNLV.
I agree with this
Misevaluating what Moser eventually could be was a major mistake – we should have found him more minutes and kept him happier – and playing Dragovic so much was a mistake too. But Moser wasn’t ready to be a D-1 power forward as a freshman. Definitely the biggest mistake of those above was Moser.
I don’t care so much about Carlino – he wasn’t good enough to play PG ahead of Anderson or Jones. His only skill at the time seemed to be 3-pt shooting. If he wanted to transfer as a freshman rather than improve and compete as a sophomore, I think that says more about him than it does about Howland. If he had stuck it out he’d have a chance at serious minutes, given the use of Zeke and Jerime as 2-guards. Clearly Carlino’s history, the influence of his coach father, and his eventual decision to transfer to a mid-major with less competition, should raise some questions. IMHO the issue here (and with the other cases) is recruiting him in the first place; but given he only took up a scholarship for a quarter, we didn’t lose much. The larger issue was not securing a better PG earlier in that class, so that he actually had to settle on Carlino at the last minute.
As DC notes, the Stanback situation is more understandable – and at the time, his departure left us a scholarship we used to add a player at a position of greater need (Bobo as a center).
Gordon and Nelson were recruiting mistakes; I am glad they are no longer at UCLA.
I agree that the list of 5 players above reflects very poorly on Howland. But I think the narrative of ‘would this team beat that team’ is more of a media hook than an evaluation tool. The story above to me is: 1) Howland recruited a talented high school swingman, misevaluated his eventual blossoming into a high-level PF, did not give him an indication of a positive future in the program, and now has a lot of reason to regret it
2) Howland failed to land a good PG due to failed pursuit of elite PGs, took a chance on a kid who wasn’t fully bought in to his role and the program, watched him leave
3) Howland mistakenly believed that a scholarship was better used on Bobo Morgan than on Chase Stanback, figuring that the players on the roster and the incoming class featuring Holiday, Anderson and Lee would give us competitive depth at Stanback’s position, and that a frontcourt featuring only senior PAA and incoming frosh Drew Gordon needed reinforcement. If Bobo had been great, the Stanback departure could have been net positive for the team
4) Howland mistakenly believed he could turn headcases Drew Gordon and Reeves Nelson into productive members of the program.
The main story to me is horrible recruiting, rather than misuse/misevaluation of players once they arrived at UCLA, with the notable exception of Mike Moser. Twice Howland took late commits that were poor choices (one of which was tied to Stanback’s departure), and twice Howland took headcases and either misunderstood the extent of their issues or overestimated his ability to overcome those issues.
I hope placing a different emphasis on the story of Howland’s failures doesn’t qualify me for some sort of moniker of delusion….
by VeniceBruin on Jan 25, 2012 11:40 AM PST up reply actions
My thoughts on your thoughts
Sorry for the bad title and yes it is a bit of “media hook.” Yeah Moser was skinnier but on that team, I have to believe he could contribute. Keefe had one arm and Lane (it turns out) one good ankle. There were minutes there for him over Drago.
On Carlino, right now he is out playing Anderson (our starting PG) at BYU. And our league is about the same in talent level. I don’t think he bulked up like Moser nor did he over night improve. Look, he is not a JF, RW, DC, or even Holiday. But if the competition is Anderson, I think there is a case.
Recruiting is part of it. But if that was all of it, all would need is Shabazz and company. That is not a solution. It scares me to think if De’End had not left Powell would play 0 minutes at the 3 and maybe Lamb would be playing some at the 2. Remember De’End started a game before he got hurt. I don’t see where Powell would play and I have to think two years from now Powell is the only back-court player we will still be talking about.
No apologies necessary
I think your original post is excellent, and you make some other good points above.
I still disagree on Carlino – remember he graduated HS a year early. I doubt he piled on pounds in his transfer year, but he had the body of an (unathletic) HS senior his first year at UCLA.
by VeniceBruin on Jan 25, 2012 12:09 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Actually
He missed a year of school when he was young so he was a High School Senior in age, Junior in class when he signed up for UCLA. Everything about Carlino had some unique aspects.
LMR, not LRM
Took me a second to figure out who you were referring to
Well done
depressing, but well done…
by DoubleTroubleBruin on Jan 25, 2012 11:08 AM PST reply actions
Great post.
So much potential gone. It is depressing. Moser definitely plays a great game. On a side note, Arizona will unveil their nike platinum uniforms against UCLA on Feb. 25th on cbs.
by Trueblue'09 on Jan 25, 2012 1:30 PM PST via mobile reply actions
They look pretty sharp
I’m sure the players are going to love wearing them. Hope Addidas has something similiarly planned for us, down the road.
What on earth is that?
I actually like Zona’s uniforms. This whole experimenting with uniforms is getting old fast.
Adidas better not mess up our jerseys.
But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.
The one player Howland truly let down was ......
Michael Roll. To this day, I cannot get over watching him, feigning a weak smile that barely concealed his disgust as he left the game for the last time.
That was the year of Drago the Terrible.
Michael did all he could every game. Yet Howland’s utterly strange game plan, inexplicably featuring Dragovich as the key offensive component night in & night out sorely tested this gutsy Bruin’s character.
To us, it was irrational coaching. To a competitive player of Roll’s caliber, it was numbing frustrations so cruelly tormenting to him.
I am suffering from Howland Fatique.
Enough, please.
Soon to join the all-transfer team?
Rumors, rumors, rumors – folks following twitter accounts have Norman Powell sounding very down on the program. Details are behind the BRO premium board, so I won’t go any further. A Norman Powell transfer would seal my own take on Howland’s future (yes, go ahead and blast me for being late to the party). I was ready to put it all on the Muhammad recruitment since we had a big lead with the guy and if Howland doesn’t get Shabazz, he’s got to go because UCLA will not be elite if you can’t recruit elite players. For whatever the reasons (they are becoming apparent, it seems), it will cement the notion that the post-3FFs Howland cannot recruit elite talent, not to mention also retain elite talent.
Anyways, I digress. Now we have Powell possibly leaving? For me, his transfer out would be the proverbial "straw that broke … " as far as my position on Howland is concerned.
However, fwiw, I discount a lot of this all-transfer team discussion (sorry DC). So many different issues. Gordon, Nelson – good riddance. Stanback – great shooter, but his defensive liabilities are masked on that UNLV team that has a lot of other talent. Carlino – could be over-rated at this point, seemed less than average against Loyola Marymount, but anyways the nature of his quitting UCLA was pretty weak imho, – the guy quits after not seeing minutes in the first game back from an injury, that early in the season? Moser – this is definitely a tough loss. The guy was pretty bad as a Fr, but who knows what a player will do off-season to improve, and in this case Moser had a full year to work his ass off and come back to show the world. And speaking of unpredictability, who would have expected Josh to regress after a promising Fr year? It can go both ways.
Back to Norman, I hope the rumors are false. And don’t even get me started on Anthony Stover’s playing time!
Powell transfering would be...
one of the lowest of all lows… for UCLA!
Howland would have lost all credibility
What business does he still have in recruiting and coaching when few wanted to remain after they came.
This would be the single most serious, potentially job ending accusation against him, a point of no return for anybody to recover.
I hope this will never happen.

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