Bruin Bites: Wooden's Worldwide Effect, Follow-Up on Japanese Garden, and Shaq Recruiting Profile
It's Sunday afternoon, which means work is on the horizon, which will be no easier despite Ben Howland's squad picking up a pair of wins over the weekend. As we've talked about before, this was a game we were expected to win, and one that is irrelevant in the larger scheme of things. In short, Howland is our Jeff Tedford for hoops (good, but not great coach, who can build excitement, but never get to the top), the real problem is our idiotic athletic director, Chianti Dan Guerrero, and the sleazy bureaucrats he's surrounding himself with at Morgan Center.
I won't continue to beat a dead horse. We know what needs to happen.
Fire Dan Guerrero. Replace him with someone who can competently hire an elite basketball coach to take UCLA back to its rightful place at the top of the college basketball world.
With that, let's turn to bits and pieces of news from around the UCLA-iverse at the end of the weekend:
- Let's start with a piece about Westwood's most beloved Bruin: Coach. Over at WWL, Ramona Shelburne has a really good story about a group of basketball coaches from war-torn Uganda who came from across the globe to study the teachings of Coach, on both basketball and life (HT bruinfollower). The L.A. Times also covered this heart-touching exchange here. Just absolutely amazing at how much of an impact this wonderful man from Indiana had, touching the souls of not just every Bruin to grace the Hills of Westwood, but positively impacting lives on the other side of the world.
- Following up on UCLA's sale of the Hannah Carter Japanese Garden, the Rafu Shimpo (Los Angeles' Japanese daily newspaper) has a lengthy summary of the on-going university goal of selling off the cultural treasure and the resulting protests. Of course, the comments from Murphy Hall officials are tone-deaf and laughable, somehow claiming that selling the garden would meet the Carters' intent in gifting it to UCLA in perpetuity. Of course, these are the same fools who complain about a lack of money, yet make Chianti Dan Guerrero, a complete and total failure, the highest paid athletic director in the Pac-12. If these are the Baghdad Bob folks running UCLA, no wonder Chianti Dan still has a job. Total UCLA facepalm.
- Turning to your need for
crackfootball recruiting news, Rahshaun Haylock at Fox Sports has a recap of Mora's recruiting efforts since taking over the reins in Westwood, touching on targets (Treggs, Payton, Allison) that Mora and Klemm are working on getting to Westwood as National Letter of Intent signing day looms on Wednesday. Haylock doesn't provide anything new, but if you've been living under a rock, you can get the quick and dirty on Mora's recruiting and goals (a top-ten class nationally) in a few paragraphs. If you really need your fix, I'd highly recommend checking out Tracy Pierson and Brandon Huffman's excellent work at BRO. - Speaking of football recruiting, one of those top targets (that we are very unlikely to land) is super-safety Shaq Thompson out of Grant High in Sacramento. His hometown newspaper, the Sacramento Bee has an extended profile of Shaq that talks about his recruitment, the twists and turns its taken since Lupoi bolted for Seattle, the good work that Shaq has done in the community, and just how big of a deal he is in the Sacramento area (which is enjoying the spotlight with elite recruits like Arik, Shaq, and Nate Iese getting a lot of national love).
- Turning to Coach B.J. Snow and the women's soccer team, Sports Illustrated has an article that discusses Snow's focus on individual player development during the off-season. While the Bruins lose top player Sydney Leroux, the rest of the squad is young, with freshmen getting a lot of playing time in this past campaign that ended way too early in the NCAA tournament. With the talent on the roster, Snow should be in position to make a deep run next season.
- Finally, this past Friday, a female UCLA student was sexually assaulted near the steps between Saxon Suites and Gayley. We all know about the nasty nickname those stairs have (which I remember hearing about when I was on campus). So, folks, please be careful, be aware of your surroundings, and try to walk in pairs or groups. The suspect is described as a white male, with short brown hair, blue eyes, standing at approximately 6 feet tall, weighing approximately 150 pounds, and being approximately 21 years old. If you have any information, please contact the UCPD at 310-825-1491.
Alright folks, those are your Bruin Bites for the end of the weekend. Hopefully, it'll give you something to read as you watch the Pro Bowl (yawn) and bide your time until the recruiting news drops on Wednesday. Fire away with your thoughts in the comment thread.
GO BRUINS
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Making money
UCLA can make a lot more money by getting rid of DG, hire a competent AD, promote the UCLA brand. Donations and sales will skyrocket if you have two winning and successful revenue sports programs.
The money generated from the one time sale of the Japanese garden is tiny compared to potential money that can be generated from above scenario.
UCLA is in dysfunction just like the state of California run by a bunch of buffoons.
by cyberdbk on Jan 29, 2012 1:48 PM PST via mobile reply actions
There's a few but they're sparse and not bright
IMO it’s still sketchy
by UCLA11 on Jan 29, 2012 3:23 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Howland et al
I have to say, you guys are idiots. Howland is a great coach. As someone who grew up in the stands, while coach Wooden was coaching his final teams, Howland is the first coach to come along in decades to earn his place in history. Obviously, you people think it is easy to win a National Championship (and I beg you to try, rather than just harp and whine from the sidelines). You were wrong about Mora and you are wrong about Howland.
Howland is learning…his first teams were composed of scrappers the kind of which he coached at Pitt. He was successful but couldn’t seal the deal with the talent that he had. And he was obstinate. After three final fours, he started to attract star power that could win a National Championship if it would just stick around for more than a year — as well as more than a few who signed on just for the promise of an NBA paycheck. The thing I love about Howland is he adjusts…he hates the zone but he will try it, he asks the players what they want to do on offense, he hires a coach from the AAU to help him with recruiting. He wants to win. As most of you silly back seat drivers have stated, there is “something” about a UCLA player in the NBA. Duh. They were well coached. Good but not great. You guys are idiots. Howland will make the leap. He will learn how to coach the kind of star talent the Bruins are finally landing after so many years adrift. And when they do, and Howland succeeds, I hope every one of you apologize to the true Bruin faithful out there. Probably, though, you will just try to couch your humbling as some kind of “told you so” with caveats because you all think you’re a bunch of sport geniuses.
Now, for Mora. I was up here the one season he coached the Seahawks. He was a disaster. Abrasive, domineering, paternalistic…just write for a UCLA team without any sort of discipline. He was a disaster for the pros, because those were men he was trying to coach, but he will be a success with kids, because they are all looking for some kind of male role model…a father figure. I hope he succeeds and I hope he never reads your blog, because he would probably become either disgusted at your ass-kissery for success or constant whining at everything else.
I realize I will probably be banished from further comments on your blog at this point (and why it is your blog, and not all Bruins’ is a mystery to me) because you cannot handle any sort of criticism, but so be it. If you were truly representative of the UCLA fan base, I cannot think of a coach in the nation that would want to win anything for you. Heck, Wooden himself would be completely disheartened at your lack of knowledge of what it takes to be a winner, to climb the pyramid of success. You obviously think a winner can just be bought off a shelf, that it doesn’t take years of learning how to win with the talent you get in the atmosphere that is today’s college sports. If that were the case, wouldn’t every team simply buy that coach and team and no one would be a loser?
Anyway…this year, in terms of winning it all, has obviously been a disappointment, but in terms of watching a coach adjust with his team, learn how to make them winners, deal with adversity, teach them the fundamentals, and make the kids believe in themselves, it has been thrilling. Not talking moral victories here, talking life. What Coach would have talked about. You do his a disservice acting like what he did — his accomplishments — were so easy they could be replicated by anyone at any time.
Can't disagree without going for the personal attacks, huh?
Why is it so hard for you or anyone with a different opinion to present it in a normal, let alone, respectful manner? Are you so threatened by someone disagreeing with you in the first place that a preemptive strike seemed reasonable? And you call us unable to handle criticism? Strange.
greg in denver, U.C.L.A. guy for life - BruinsNation.com
What's amazing
Is that BIS comes here, provides no argument, no facts, no numbers to back up his assertion that “we’re idiots” but rather nothing but his own opinion.
No one here is saying that our basketball coach should be just like Wooden. We don’t expect someone to roll off a handful of titles in a single decade. All we’re looking for is a coach that can keep us in the consistent elite category (where UCLA belongs), like we see with Kansas, Duke, and UNC. Even in their down years, those programs are always in the mix and a “bad year” for them is a second-round exit in the Big Dance.
Howland is on the verge of not even making the NIT. On the verge of his third losing season (second if you give him a mulligan for his first season, as many of us did), and the third time he’ll miss the Big Dance. That kind of bad season may be okay at somewhere like Washington or Cal, but this is UCLA.
To address your points, no one is saying it’s easy to win a national title. But the criticism of Howland is about more than not bringing the 12th banner back to Westwood. It’s because he’s stubborn and he plays favorites (Dragovic, Wear twins, etc.) while letting more talented guys languish on the bench (Moser, Powell, etc.). It’s because he’s shown an unwillingness to adjust to the zone (often riding man-to-man when it’s simply not working).
Guys like DCBruins and other regulars have documented, using numbers and facts, why there is a case for Howland to be shown the door with Chianti Dan. Do you have anything of value to add to the discussion as a counter-point, or are you simply going to continue to whine about our tone?
Seriously, BIS...
…if there is a legitimate counter-argument for why we should keep Ben, one that is not based on raw emotion and holding on to the glory of the Final Four runs, please provide it. I want Ben to succeed and I wish it worked out for Ben in Westwood. If you’d take the time to look through BN, we’ve been very patient with Howland, even when our team was totally flailing away in 2009-2010 to finish at 14-18 in a total embarrassment (which was just as bad as Lavin’s).
Also, as a point of comparison, if Howland missed the Big Dance and finishes with a below .500 record, he’ll officially move past Lavin. Even Lavin, who was a total fraud, made the NCAA tournament every season but one (his last) and always had 20 wins in every season but one (his last).
And for the record..
….BIS wasn’t “banished” so I’d love to see what kind of response he can provide, if he can come up with any kind of legitimate counter-argument to why Howland needs to go.
Again, let's not ridicule BruinSeattle
Let’s respectfully ask him to back up his opinions with facts. Opinions are important, but so are facts.
As it happens, we’ve looked at all of the facts that appear to be lurking just our of BruinSeattle’s reach, and he’s wrong about them. Sorry, BruinSeattle, but if your opinion that a yard is the same length as a foot, you’re wrong. There are no facts that support your theses, but I really want you to try to collect your thoughts and come back and explain your position. Once you try to do that (and you’ll surely fail), then we can all ridicule you.
Don’t make this more difficult than it has to be. Just get facts to support your opinion. If you can’t do so, then you surely can’t object when people here (and surely elsewhere as well) think you’re an idiot and question whether the thinking machinery you’re using was actually formed at UCLA. But go ahead and give it a try. We’ll be waiting.
Really
I mean, do you know how many people we had to beat back after the 2008 Final Four, saying “Howland will never do it”, “His offense is boring”. The facts did not support ousting a coach that had a great run, some questionable coaching decisions, but a top rated class coming in. There is no way we would be on board with getting rid of that coach. People seem to have this idea that we’re just looking for reasons this year to pound on the guy, and it’s really getting old. We don’t make these calls based on emotion. We see that the current coach has presided over some of the worst records in the history of the program. Not being able to make a field that has now expanded to 68 teams is extremely troubling.
Do not lower your expectations, Bruins. We are college basketball. This is our legacy. To compromise that is to compromise everything.
Well, Ty, as SeattleBruin might put it
I think we can forget about the last five years as being an anomaly. If we all just support our team blindly, and stop criticizing our coach and our athletic director, who are doing their best, the wins will surely come. After all, Coach Wooden didn’t win a championship for several years. And once you stop criticizing, we can all join hands and sing “Kumbaya” and everything will turn out just fine.
Same with our football team. We gave up on CTS way too soon. He was about ready to turn the corner.
Still waiting...
…for BruinInSeattle to come up with some kind of response.
Oh, wait. It’s been silent.
F**king coward.
I get the Howland Criticism
And I am beginning to doubt that Howland is capable of re-generating the run that he had from 05-08 at UCLA. I think that he is a very good coach who has lost his recruiting edge and, for a variety of reasons, it is much more difficult for him to recruit top players to UCLA. I still think he would be a championship caliber coach at another top school and am not throwing in the towel on him just yet as UCLA’s coach.
However, to compare Howland to Tedford and say that he is a “good, but not great coach, who can build excitement, but never get to the top” is insane. Really? He can never get to the top? He was one win away in 2006 and two wins away in 2007 and 2008- but I guess it was impossible to win those games from the beginning because Howland was coaching. You replay the 2006 title game and the 2007 and 2008 Final Fours ten times and UCLA comes away with several titles.
I think it's a good comparison
Look at the talent Tedford has had in Berkeley over the years (NFL guys off the top of my head: Aaron Rodgers, Marshawn Lynch, Thomas DeCoud, Justin Forsett, DeSean Jackson, Alex Mack, Jahvid Best, Syd’Quan Thompson, etc.), there’s no real good excuse for why Cal hasn’t done better. They’ve been good, but never got over the top and made it the Rose Bowl (getting to the Rose Bowl is the proverbial white whale for Cal alums).
Look at the talent we had on our Final Four rosters, especially the 2007-08 roster (when we lost to Memphis in the Final Four): RW (NBA All-Star), DC (NBA starter), JS, AA2, LMR, MR, LRMAM (NBA starter), and KL (NBA All-Star). And it’s been well-documented that a big part of that loss was Howland’s refusal to adjust to address DC’s trouble guarding Rose (not using RW there was a huge mistake).
I used to think that Howland was a lot like Bill Self, in that eventually he would get there, but I fear that the Final Fours were Howland’s high water mark. I don’t think he’ll ever top that and I think the longer we wait, the more we prolong the inevitable.
The 2008 FF Team was so good.
but it demonstrates one of our points about Howland, and speaks directly to one of BruinInSeattle’s counters to our reservations:
The thing I love about Howland is he adjusts
Well, he does, but very very grudgingly, and way way too late.
He didn’t move DC/RW when he had to v Memphis, which he later admitted he should have done.
He didn’t go to zone 3 years ago when he didn’t have the athletes to play man.
He didn’t hold Drago accountable for his behavior, and it cost us Moser and Nelson.
He hasn’t really adjusted his entire scheme for the fact that he hasn’t recruited guys like AA, RW, LRMAM, DC, etc…
I don’t think I’d cite Howland’s “adjustments” when discussing his qualities.
greg in denver, U.C.L.A. guy for life - BruinsNation.com
He adjusts
Just not during the game. His in-game adjustments are actually pretty poor, IMO. But if he’s properly game planned you prior to the game, and he has the horses to execute that plan, you’re dead.
Howland is more like Toledo than Tedford IMO
Toledo’s 20 game win streak with Rose Bowl appearance and a bad call from BCS title game was comparable to Final-4 runs. Than after those years it turned out that those runs had more to do with Cade’s magic than Toledo’s coaching. When we look back at Howland era we will see more and more those Final-4s being the product of talent of guys like JF, AA and other Ben Ball warriors (guys who actually played “Ben Ball”) than Howland.
That's kinda a curious argument...
that back then the players were responsible for the success, not the coach, but now we have the talent, but the coach is failing them by not coaching them up.
The BRO Tracy Pierson article gives a lot of credit to Howland for getting this bunch to buy into Howland’s offense and executing it properly so as to produce the results we saw Saturday. Of course, time will tell if this ‘buy’/execution continues.
And, I agree, Tedford is no comparison to Howland. Tedford never came close to final fours or a championship game as Howland did.
I think this was a reply to N's comment?
It don’t think N was saying it was only the players. I think the Cade + Toledo is a good analogy. It was the right players with the right coaching system. Howland + BenBall warriors made for an elite combination. Great playmakers in the right system worked well in the FF years, same as for the football team that should have been in the BCS game.
The problem comes when the wrong kind of players are shoehorned into a system they aren’t built for, which seems to be the case with Howland’s teams since. It doesn’t fit.
greg in denver, U.C.L.A. guy for life - BruinsNation.com
Exactly
Great coaches can find a way to win regardless of what kind of personnel they have: the great coaches (read: Coach) will adjust to suit what’s on the roster, rather than trying to shoehorn the roster to fit a pre-set system.
by Bellerophon on Jan 29, 2012 10:11 PM PST up reply actions
" ... to shoehorn the roster to fit a pre-set system ... "
You hit it right on the head.
That is EXACTLY , ABSOLUTELY, UNDENIABLY the biggest problem of Ben Howland’s coaching style. This is a malignancy he incubated himself, and only he can find a cure too.
Please, fax it in boldfaced version to his office, for his eyes only.
I am no expert in Basketball but...
I can tell that Howland fails to adapt when he deliverately plays man to man when he doesnt have the personnel to match the opposing team. In 2008 he allowed Collison to guard Rose and get torched time after time again. In conclusion, he lost to Billy Donovan in three out of the last 5 tournaments I believe. Three times to Donovan’s teams, and he once looks and analyzes those games he got beat on the tactic. I don’t think winning happens over night, but the same can be said about losing. Howland had three FF’s, but from there on out he has little to to prove he deserves another shot at this.
"Winners Then, Winners Now... Bruin in Madrid"
Someone give Pierson the memo...
Tracy seems to like Howland’s approach. Some quotes from his article, which I assume is OK to do.
“…this is perhaps the best UCLA team at executing Ben Howland’s offense…”
“…how many assists to made baskets – reflective of how the offense isn’t dependent on players going one-on-one but is getting its points through execution…”
“Jones has really grown into a good player, being smart enough to minimize his weaknesses by buying in and allowing Howland’s offense to boost what he naturally doesn’t do well.”
“Anderson, while he has a better natural feel and vision for the game, still has had a history of poor decisions, and Howland’s offense has been the perfect vehicle for keeping Anderson under control.”
“Anderson, Lamb and Jones have now become so experienced within Howland’s offense they’re starting to find open second, third, and even fourth options.”
“For Howland’s offense to work as well as it has at times this season, it’s completely dependent on its bigs executing precisely,…and the Wears are very precise in their execution”
“…the Wears are moving without the ball exactly where Howland wants them to, and it makes for a well-designed play, with many options just about every time down the court.”
“At the beginning of the season, Jones wasn’t buying in, the Wears were getting acclimated and no one on the team really knew their role, especially with the Reeves Nelson distraction. "
“And give Howland a great amount of credit for not only conceiving of the offense, but getting these five to buy in and stay focused in executing it. "
“It’s a matter that the personnel on this team, while it lacks a high degree of talent and athleticism, is a perfect match for Howland’s structured offense, moreso than any he’s coached at UCLA.”
It's okay if it's not behind subscription firewall
And you should give a link back if it’s not.
Also, it’s funny (and telling) that not one of those points is about defense.
Thanks for the clarification..
Article link…
http://ucla.scout.com/2/1153248.html
He didn’t say much about defense, yeah, I know what your thinkin, but here is the extent of that aspect.
RE: Lamb…“His rebounding was particularly a force, pulling down some very impressive rebounds, and he played very good defensively, generally, matching up against Colorado’s leading scorer, Carlon Brown, holding him to 6 points on 2-of-7 shooting and 0-for-3 from three.”
“In other words, hoping for these guys to play defense on the level of UCLA’s Final Four teams is really a pipe dream. They just don’t have the athleticism to pull it off.”
He's right though
This group of guys is indeed pretty good at executing Howland’s offense. The problem is that they:
- lack the athleticism to play m2m defense consistently
- have lost focus and lost winnable games on several occasions
- have no players who would start on any of Howland’s Final Four teams
The major irony is, after those final fours, there were a ton of people piping up in posts and threads about how boring Howland’s offense was and how he should go just because of that. Right after 3 straight Final Fours.
Otherwise, I think Pierson is accurate.
But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.



















