ASU vs. UCLA Basketball Preview: Walk-on Night and Hoops Roundup
Before we get to the preview of the ASU game, a few notes on the UCLA basketball team:
Changing roles. Howland is moving Jones to SG and Anderson to PG. Jones has his fans and critics but despite what the former may think, the move is primarily because Jones has to shoot the ball more (emphasis mine):
A big assist to their huge night goes to Lazeric Jones, who Howland applauded for setting good screens to get the Wear Twins open on the block.
It was a new role for Jones, who spent a lot more time off of the ball on Thursday night than he ever did throughout the course of his career.
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Howland says it's not likely to change, because Jones "has to be our primary scorer."
"He's got to be a primary guy that we're looking for to run offense through and with his point guard skills he's going to make plays for others as well," he said. "I don't think Zeek has any problem taking shots. I think he's very comfortable."
Jones himself was mixed about the move:
Teams are starting to key in on Jones, UCLA's leading scorer. Howland's new game-plan is to let Jones play off the ball in more of a shooting guard role and let fellow senior guard Jerime Anderson shoulder the ball-handling responsibilities. That strategy worked Saturday with periodic success. "I've never played off the ball in my life," Jones said. "Knowing Jerime's out there takes a lot of pressure off me, too. I know that teams deny me the ball and I know Jerime can handle it."
There is a lot that can be said about this and we will say more later but really it is about a team that preseason the offense was supposed to be all about scoring inside (Nelson and Smith, with the Wears as backups) and running the offense through the bigs. However, the reality that has developed with Jones as the leading scorer, the leading three shooter (makes, attempts, and percentage of those with more than 10 attempts), and leader even at free throw attempts. Jones is the one guy who can score in all ways for UCLA.
Speaking of the guy who was supposed to be one of those leaders, Josh Smith, he will be a game time decision:
Josh Smith will be a game-time decision Saturday, Coach Ben Howland said. Smith, who rode a stationary bike Friday, is to be reevaluated Saturday morning, and his performance on certain concussion tests will determine his availability.
Also, De'End Parker is out and will again not be on the bench for personal reasons:
De'End Parker, a junior college transfer from San Francisco who played 34 minutes in two games before suffering knee tendinitis, was not with the team Thursday. Howland said Parker's mother was recovering from open-heart surgery and because Parker was not healthy and not playing, Howland said: "I told him to stay home and be with her. He's supposed to be back in a couple of days." UCLA has not been in session because of the holidays.
ASU vs. UCLA Preview
Taking a cue from gbruin I will start this preview with a dictionary definition. Hopeless : providing no hope; beyond optimism or hope; desperate. No, in this case, it is not a description of Chianti Dan but of the Pac-12 and ASU basketball team. ASU with 6 scholarship players beat USC. I think this says more about USC than ASU. I drafted this preview before that game. But I still feel that UCLA should be able to dominate a 5-9 (1-2 Pac-12 team) ASU who just suspend 40% of their starters:
Arizona State suspended three players prior to Thursday night's game against USC, according to a report in the Arizona Republic.
According to the report, Keala King and Kyle Cain -- both starters -- and Chris Colvin were suspended for "unacceptable conduct." The trio did not travel with the Sun Devils and, according to the report, won't return to the team until next week, at the earliest.
Until the USC game, the year has been an unqualified disaster for ASU and, despite the win over USC, it is likely only getting worse. Savior and top recruit (#50 in the nation) PG Jahii Carson does not academically qualify for ASU. His replacement Keala King leads the team in points, assists and steals but he is not playing either due to suspension. But it does not stop. The backup PG, Chris Colvin, is also suspended. I know Howland does not like to press but I am not sure how ASU will bring the ball up the court.
If this was a home game for ASU they would be looking for a PG from the crowd.
ASU season has been all about bad luck. In addition to the suspensions and failure to qualify ASU has:
Arizona State (4-8) has had four straight games decided by shots in the final seconds, losing the last three.
Yes ASU has Trent Lockett who last year had a memorable put back to send the UCLA game in Tempe to overtime. Lockett was a tough matchup for Tyler Honeycutt last year and leads ASU in rebounds this year and is officially the 2 guard (There is a reason that ASU was 4-9 before the suspensions). But really there is not much to help him. Shoot Lockett does it all and played PG against USC .
Another starter Carrick Felix had a career game against USC. Prior to that I thought he started at the three because he shots a lot of threes. The PF and second leading rebounder Kyle Cain is also suspended. ASU does have some size is 7 foot starting center Ruslan Pateev and as a result of the suspensions the lineup will be huge:
In their absence Trent Lockett moved to point guard and junior forward Carrick Felix had a career-high 22 points as Arizona State used a starting lineup of players that measured 6-6, 6-7, 7-0, 6-5 and 6-4. Sophomore Jordan Bachynski, a 7-2 center, is the only other scholarship player available for the Sun Devils.
Despite the ASU vs. USC game, I do think this game has blowout written all over it for UCLA.
I will go out on a limb and ask everyone in honor of Achilles pregame guesses to answer the following in their first replies:
1. Who sets their career high against ASU? For three games in a row a Bruin has hit a career high going into the ASU game:
For the third straight game, a Bruin posted a career-best scoring mark. Saturday it was Travis Wear (20), who followed career performances from Lamb (26 against Cal) and Jones (26 against Stanford).
2. Which walk-on scores first?
I am thinking both may be the same person.
Go Bruins and put the Sun Devils out of their misery quickly.
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Mixed reaction about this move
I like moving Jones to the 2 spot. However, it seems like Howland is doing it for the wrong reasons. Jones needed to move to the 2 spot not because of his scoring ability. He is just a terrible pg with no natural instincts. I also am quesy about the idea of making Jones the “primary scorer.” That is not a good sign at all given we have so much more talent on the team with lot more upside.
Now what I would do is to get Powell in at the 2 spot as soon as possible, cutting down Jones’ mins. Powell makes mistakes but let him learn through this. Building an offense around Jones seems to be as shortsighted as using Dragovic as one of the primary “scorer” two years ago when Howland wasted more potential on the bench by stunting players opportunities for learning through growing pains.
I love Powell's game
and I’m sure that he will eventually be the best player to have played on this squad but IMHO right now and probably for the remainder of the season Jones will be the better scoring option.
FG% 3P% FT%
Jones 0.443 0.389 0.769
Powell 0.387 0.306 0.667
For the record, I don’t like the idea of running the offense through Zeke either but I do like the idea of maximizing our outside scoring potential which should in turn open things up for Smith and the Wears inside
+1
Powell will earn his minutes as the season goes. This is also Jones’ swan song so we will see if he can be that leader this team needs. D’s have really keyed on him though so will be tough.
by BruinArts on Jan 7, 2012 7:01 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Just because its Jones' swan song
That doesn’t mean he should get mins. See Dragovic, Westgate and all the other stupid coaching moves in recent years.
by Nestor on Jan 7, 2012 9:04 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
I dont care about the short term gains
Howland doesn’t either since he has apparently raised the white flag in the regular season. For the long term Howland needs to start Powell over Jones and have the team grow through that core. It’s this short term perspective that destroyed the foundation of this program three years ago. Howland was responsible for that destruction and his blind supporters decided to bury their heads in the sand along the way.
by Nestor on Jan 7, 2012 9:03 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
If you're in "build for the future mode" I can understand that
all I’ve been thinking about during this b-ball season is what next year’s lineup could look like (K. Anderson, Powell, Muhammad, Lamb/Parker/Wear/Wear, Smith) so I’m half way there when it comes to writing off this season. And I’ll admit that I haven’t been re-watching/analyzing games this year the way I have in the past so maybe my take is off, but as far as I can tell Zeke has been our best player for the last few weeks (which isn’t saying much but still) and this situation doesn’t seem to mirror 09-10 when the Bricklayer was single-handedly losing games for us with his poor shot selection and horrific D. Am I wrong here?
No, I think you are right here based on what I have seen
Look, I agree that in terms of short term options Jones > Powell. But I am strictly thinking upside and also about next season. I think if we go with Powell now we will also be a better team at the end of season. Zeke is not getting any better from what he is now. Sky is the limit if we optimize Powell/Lamb’s mins together on the court starting now.
I don't think Zeek taking the most shots is necessarily a bad thing
I just don’t like that at least half of the shots he takes are at the end of possessions where he either hasn’t passed it, or has dominated the final 10-15 seconds of the shot clock at which point he “has to” take it. His percentage on those shots must be somewhere around 20% and that might be generous. If his game didn’t induce the rest of the team to do Lakers style Kobe ball watching, I don’t think we would really have a problem with his shot volume.
hopefully he should have fewer of those when he's not the PG
and given how effective he has been (statistically) even with those bad shots dragging down his numbers, he could be a very efficient scorer from the 2 spot.
also agree with the point above about having Powell/Lamb together
as regardless of who is scoring, Powell and Lamb are much more capable of playing CBH’s defense at a high level.
also
while Zeek having the most total shots isn’t necessarily a problem, I think Josh should be taking more shots per minute played.
Powell has a ton of upside for sure
but I don’t think he needs to be limited by this move. With De’End not having contributed at all, with Reeves gone, Josh limited, and DWear not a capable 3, it seems we will be playing a lot with 3 guards, with Powell and Lamb covering the minutes at 3 and getting a few at SG when Zeek or Jerime are out of the game. With 120 minutes of time across 3 positions for 4 guys, I would have no problem with Zeek and Jerime being at ~34 and Powell and Lamb getting ~26. If either Powell or Lamb end up averaging less than 20 mins in conference play I think that would be a clear mistake, but upwards of 20 minutes you are getting enough game time to develop without being under pressure to be ‘the guy’ as an underclassman.
PG?
I think it’s been demonstrated Anderson can’t drive past his defender and penetrate. When Anderson brings the ball up he stops his dribble way too far away to start the offense.
This group won’t get to the next level until we find a PG that can penetrate and create problems for the defense. I would stick with Zeke at PG, start developing Powell at SG and use Anderson as the 6th man.
So, ASU is starting a bunch of walk-ons?
I wonder which of them will have a career night against us
Also, just for kicks, Stover’s going to get a career high, with 6 points.
A blowout?
I hope you’re right but I’m fearfu. I think our players will be overconfident and nonchalant, thinking they’ve already notched the tough win against Arizona. ASU will play with no pressure. They beat a tough defensive team in U$C. I see at best a close win with several heart attacks, and wouldn’t be surprised one bit if we lost, in this crazy Pac12 year.
But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.
Reasons Why A Blowout is Likely
I think this will be a blow out.
1. ASU is really bad and on the road. That was true before they lost the players.
2. I think we won’t let down, they just beat SUC. I think/hope our guys realize that.
3. This UCLA team is much better than last year at playing up to their potential. I think the effort will be there and that will be enough against ASU.
4. I think ASU will have 20+ TOs in the game. I think Jones, Lamb, Powell and Anderson will all take advantage of ASU’s lack of a PG to make a fair number of steals. I would bet Jones or Lamb has 5 steals in this game.
5. If we get up early, ASU will fold.
Huge Lineup
A 7 footer on ASU? Who will guard him? One of the Wears? It’ll be a closer game than most people think
Get rid of Adidas and switch to Nike
Screw Dan Gurrerror
Before the players were suspended the tallest guy hardly played
We are not talking KAJ here. Their bigs are not exactly stars. Also, if you think we are slow, The Wears are really fast compared to these guys.
1396, go back a bit in basketball history, aka, in UCLA history.
The tallest guy on our first championship team was, if I remember correctly, Vaughn Hoffman, who was 6-7, and who didn’t play much. Our tallest starters were Erickson and Slaughter, at 6’5. Hirsch was 6’3, Hazzard was 6’2 and Goodrich was 6’1. We played Duke, who had two 6’10 guys. Final score – UCLA 98 – Dook 83.
If the real tall guy is also real slow, then it’s not that big a deal. It also helps, of course, if your guards are Goodrich and Hazzard, but that’s another story.
somewhat agree
Powell when healthy must get more minutes but why at Jones’ expense? Disagree that his minutes should be rdeuced. Having been involved in the game as a player, official and a coach for over 15 years I like Jones as he can create, distribute, and score and can shoot free throws but having heand Anderson on the floor together provides additional scoring and assist opportunities. Powell and Lamb also need minutes with the latter two able to also contribute at the three.
While we should win, this is precisely the kind of a game where WE get blown out in the Dan Guerrero era.
Let’ see if the players take this game seriously or rely on predictions of a UCLA blow out instead.
I think this team
Will play hard. I think they have improved. I also think ASU is bad.
by DCBruins on Jan 7, 2012 1:39 PM PST via mobile up reply actions

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