UCLA Hands Southern Cal a Moral Victory
by DCBruins on Feb 15, 2012 9:46 PM PST
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Southern Cal is a bad team. UCLA held Southern Cal to 16 points in the first half on 24% shooting. But in the second half last place Southern Cal out-played UCLA and shot 56% and outscored UCLA 38-33.
Why did this happen? One reason: Coach Ben Howland only played seven players! See the ESPN box score. Are you kidding me: Zeek played the least minutes of any starter and that was 33?!?!? I realize Anthony Stover may be hurting but why not more minutes for Powell and any minutes for Lane? CBH do you really need to play the Wears 71 minutes?!
But that is just the point. We only beat a terrible Southern Cal team by 10 points. What keyed Trojans' second half comeback? Let's discuss that after the jump.
They drove the ball. Memo to CBH: the Wears are not centers. They can’t play good help defense at center and block shots. We need Stover. Does CBH have a Wear crush? Why zero minutes for Lane? I think the Wears are better players than Lane but they are not 37 and 34 minutes better. I realize the Wears had double-doubles but they also had zero blocks against a Southern Cal team that drove at will in the second half.
The tired legs may have helped them drive as well. Jerime Anderson had a nice game but again finished shooting cold as he tried to do too much. And that is just it: the Bruins finished bad again against a really bad team.
The Bruins got the win but in some ways the terrible Southern Cal team got the moral victory.
Go Bruins
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Holy Crap
Howland said Lamb was hurting and he still played that many minutes?!? Listening to post game now.
Too many minutes = bad free throw shooting
This didn’t really come up in the came, but I can’t understand why Howland doesn’t recognize that when he plays a short bench that many minutes and demands a certain kind of defensive style, their legs are going to be tired and that’s going to be reflected in - free throw shooting. If he wants them to play hard nose d, then rotating more guys in and out would seem a no-brainer, especially when we’ve been 10-12 deep. But I guess that’s never going to happen.
by rocket rod forever on Feb 15, 2012 9:56 PM PST reply actions
156 comments?
In the game thread? Wow…was the game not shown everywhere? I guess not having a stream sucks. Well both teams suck too…
But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.
Was not on in northern california
Unlike last week, at least Comcast had reasonable counter-programming forcing UCLA off the air – a local top-25 team (St Marys – who ended up losing at home to LMU) playing at the same time.
formerly bruinhoo
The last 5 games I have watched, the Bruins have lost and looked bad doing so.
(Texas; @Cal; @OSU; @UW; Cal).
As you can see from the fact that I have only watched 5 of the last 20 games, all of which have been losses, I have tuned the team out. Not worth staying up til 1 a.m. E.S.T. to watch this product. And I pay Dish Network extra to get the Fox Sports package.
It appears that there are many that are situated similarly to me.
Very sad, especially since last nights game was against hated U$C*. The St. John’s game is at 1 p.m. on Saturday. I’ll consider watching, which might ruin UCLA’s chances . . .
At least I saw us beat Chamenade. This is truly a nadir for UCLA hoops.
by orlandobruin on Feb 16, 2012 3:28 AM PST up reply actions
Stover, Lane, resting...
for the NIT.
FIRE RICK NEUHEISEL!!! NO MERCY!!!
FIRE DUMB GUERRERO!!! NO MERCY!!!
Howland
just tired of watching the players looking afraid to make a mistake, instead of playing free and having fun. He does not look like he makes the game very fun for them.
Glad I missed it.
I was pretty sure this game was either going to be a disappointing, ugly win or an absolutely catastrophic loss.
Howland is really not a very good tactician and either his assistants aren’t, either, or he doesn’t listen to them.
We Get It
No matter what happens in a game, it was Howland’s fault. Aren’t we always laughing at how stupid moral victories are? So how about we celebrate our victory and come up with real complaints about Howland later. We just beat down USC for the second time this year. I’m sleeping well tonight knowing that we destroyed the Trojans.
by jcgobruins on Feb 16, 2012 1:31 AM PST via iPhone app reply actions
$c was 6-20 before tip-off.
They have 6 scholarship players healthy, few of which were actually expected to play significant minutes this year. They have no skilled bigs to speak of. We didn’t beat them down; we beat them…by ten. In my world, beating a 6-20 team by ten points, whether it’s $c or not, is not destroying them.
Roses are red, violets are blue...f*** $C.
There is not one thing
To celebrate when we are witnessing the complete destruction of our basketball program.
The focus is on being excellent whether we win or lose.
The playing time allocation is pathetic.
I slept well last night too
Because I did not bother to watch the debacle that has become CBH basketball.
Louisville, KY for UCLA class of '87
Loser Donahue mindset taking over hoops now
You know the old pathetic mantra – “I don’t care if we go 1-9 in a season as long as that win is against SC.”
by Nestor on Feb 16, 2012 5:24 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
So jego, as long as we're one game above .500 in basketball, you'll be sleeping well?
Standards have really, really fallen.
You’ve never heard of Brice Chambers, I’m sure, but you’ve certainly heard of Red Auerbach. Auerbach used to light a cigar when he thought the game was in the bag. Coach had a guy named Brice Chambers who was known as Coach’s victory cigar. He only got in when Coach thought we had the game locked up. Brice actually played a lot. The students looked forward to seeing him come in. We slept well back then, knowing that Chambers was getting a lot of playing time.
I haven’t slept too well during basketball season for the last several years. I don’t blame you, jego, for having no standards. It’s not your fault that the athletic administration has let things go this way, while telling you things were just fine. Don’t blame the older guys, though, for wanting things to be better for all of us.
I don't think we beat down SUC
If we played the second half like the first and kept USC under 40 and/or won by 30, I would celebrate for a day. But we won by 10 against a bad team. Sorry. If I was, gulp, an SUC fan, I would be happy how my 6 scholarship players fought back.
Again, we did not “beat down” USC. If we did, I can tell you I would have wrote this different, if only for one game.
If we "beat down" U$C last night
here are the beatdowns we have taken this year:
- lost to LMU 58-69
- lost to Middle Tennessee State 66-86
- lost to Kansas 56-72
- lost to Michigan 63-79
- lost to Texas 59-69
- lost to Cal 69-85
- lost to Cal 63-73
I hope you’re getting lots of sleep, buddy.
But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.
Fair point
but I’d be careful around here when you make comments about the quality of your rest…
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