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UCLA at St. John's Preview

NEW YORK, NY - NOVEMBER 17:  Moe Harkless #4 of the St. John's Red Storm makes a dunk against Arizona Wildcats.  Moe is a freshman of the year candidate.  (Photo by Patrick McDermott/Getty Images)

While USC was one of the worst basketball teams in the country, St. John's is merely one of the worst in the Big East. St. John's is 10-16 (4-10 in the Big East) and has lost to the only common opponent both teams faced: Arizona (although Arizona was at home for that game). St John's is a completely different team from last year, literally. Last year the Johnnies' four of five starters were seniors (depending on matchups), whereas this year they start five freshmen.

Last year Steve Lavin was the coach, this year he has been ill and limited in what he can do. Regardless of how we feel about Lavin the coach, we all wish him a full recovery from prostate cancer. There is really nothing the same from the team last year.

Lavin's Noah's Ark recruiting strategy did not quite work as problems, such as players being ineligible, occurred. The team has lost three of its last four by 20 or more points. However, the Johnnies have played some good teams well, such as at Georgetown where they gave #11 Georgetown all they could handle last week.

The Johnnies are led by 6'8" Moe Harkless. A potential nightmare for the Bruins. Moe is listed by many as a freshman of the year candidate, including number 4 on this list:

4. Moe Harkless, St. John's (Last Week: 4): 15.6 ppg, 8.5 rpg
Despite being the focal point of defenses, Harkless is still managing to carry the young Johnnies offensively. He averaged 17.5 points and 8.5 rebounds in his last two games.

Star-divide

While Harkless is the star, he is not alone. 6'3" guard D'Angelo Harrison has also been good. The Johnnies also gave Duke a run for their money causing Coach K to say:

Harkless scored 30 points and grabbed 13 rebounds in the Red Storm's 83-76 loss to eighth-ranked Duke at Cameron Indoor Stadium. His brilliant individual performance prompted the Blue Devils' Hall of Fame coach Mike Krzyzewski to suggest Harkless was "as good as any freshman in the country." The dynamic 6-3 Harrison scored 15 of his 21 points in the second half as the Johnnies rallied from a 22-point deficit, outscraping and outhustling the ACC power (18-3) down the stretch on its home court.

The kids are all right. Actually, they were a lot better than all right.

"The summer before our senior year in high school we were kind of still under the radar," Harrison said. "We were nowhere in the national rankings. At the end of the summer, we had people talking."

Harkless, from the Springfield Gardens section of Queens, built his AAU reputation playing for the Panthers. Harrison, from Dulles High in Missouri City, Tex., played for The Franchize All Stars. The two have been critical pieces for a young St. John's team with five new starters that is starting to grow up. No one is saying the Johnnies (9-12) are ready to play in the NCAA Tournament, but this season has become a study in character and a preview of a promising future. That all hinges, of course, on both young stars staying on campus next year, and head coach Steve Lavin, who is recovering from prostate cancer surgery and has not been on the bench since late November, adding some size and depth to the roster.

Good thing Anthony Stover and Norman Powell will get a lot of minutes today in this non-conference game to cover these guys on defense. Wait, Howland is our coach: never mind.

CBS commentator Bill Rafferty who will call the game was asked about the St. John's team and said this:

Q: What have you made so far of St. John's, who enter the game with a 10-16 record, 4-10 in the Big East?

A: I love watching them play and there's a lot of talent, but they're young and not seasoned. They're prone to maybe taking trips off and maybe the concentration level isn't quite what they'd like. There are just lapses that young teams seem to make. They've got a nice group, but if they get in foul trouble or fatigued, it's going to show.

But the problems with St. John's aren't with the best players, it is with everyone else:

The young Red Storm have experienced much tumult since arriving on campus: Steve Lavin underwent surgery to treat his prostate cancer and has been on the sidelines for only two games, three players were declared academically ineligible and Stith is the second player to leave the program - Nurideen Lindsay left the team in December.

In their last close game with Georgetown, four out of five starters played 35 or more minutes. Two subs only played because two players fouled out and then only for a minute. In reality the entire bench was one player named: God'sgift Achiuwa. The other starters include another all name team player Sir'Dominic Pointer, a 6'5" swing. Phil Greene a 6'2" combo guard forced into being a point which is part of the reason the Johnnies rank at the bottom in the country in assists. 6'6" Amir Garrett was recruited as a small forward but really has forced to play more inside.

Actually the only other true inside big outside Moe is God'sgift (not a typo folks). They also don't shoot well outside except for Harrison. This is really a team where a zone might be a good idea. They are decent athletes, just young, inexperienced, out of position, and a bit disorganized.

This is a game the Bruins should win but there are a lot of danger signs. Will the Bruins be just as tired as the Johnnies? Will CBH use his superior bench? Will CBH force the Johnnies to beat UCLA outside, or will Moe and company tear up UCLA tired bigs on drives like USC did in the second half?

Go Bruins!

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I don't know the line but I have to think betters are siding with St. John's in this one

Thanks for the preview DC. Another nice preview. I have seen the Redmen Red Storm, twice this year and it happened to be the Duke and Georgetown games. If the team that played in those games shows up, the Bruins go down. What you mention in the first line, that they are bad team in the Big East, probably translates to a team that would fair pretty well in the pathetic Pac-12 this season. Hopefully the out of state bigger stage brings out the best in Smith and the rest of the team.

by 84 on Feb 17, 2012 7:24 AM PST reply actions  

probably not w/r/t bettors...

St. John’s hasn’t been favored in a game since the December 27th game against Providence at home.

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by picodulce on Feb 17, 2012 9:28 AM PST up reply actions  

You should be

our team is horrible on the road.

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Feb 17, 2012 3:20 PM PST up reply actions  

UCLA 4-point favorites

If I recall correctly, last week was the first time in a while Vegas was wrong on UCLA. They had the Bruins as 3-point favorites over Cal.

by indigo27 on Feb 17, 2012 7:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Nostalgia

We were fortunate enough to be in NYC for UCLA/St John in 1967 (?) or 1968. UCLA alum Party featuring Ralph Bunche (UN Ambassador at the time) and other UCLA alums living in NYC, cab ride to MSG courtesy of Charles Young who rode with us (V Chancellor at the time.. he knew where the AD was located on campus), and the Bruins did real well…..

Mensgym

by Mensgym on Feb 17, 2012 8:55 AM PST reply actions  

We got screwed by MSG

when trying to have our season at the Forum.

We’re going to get screwed in MSG, because we don’t play well there.

Cross-country trip for an early (10AM PST) tip-off a couple of days after having 4 of your starters playing about 35 minutes each. Awesome recipe for success!

What’s the over-under for Howland’s first TO? I say at 17:30 in the first half…

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Feb 17, 2012 9:18 AM PST reply actions  

Agree, Over, and one add

I am worried about the refs. In NYC the feeling was St. John’s got screwed last year at Pauley by the SPTRs. I hope I am wrong but that may be another factor.

by DCBruins on Feb 17, 2012 9:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Playing freshman major minutes? what a concept!

Though I guess it’s more out of necessity than actual belief in the players for Lavin’s case.

by BruinEngy on Feb 17, 2012 11:00 AM PST reply actions  

This young St. Johns' team is opposite of us

I get to watch them a lot out here in Big East Country. They are young and athletic, fast and play loose…like they’re having fun.

So we’re playing across country, at MSG against a faster more athletic team….I’m not expecting much here considering how we have played throughout the year.

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by kingslook on Feb 17, 2012 11:33 AM PST reply actions  

Just don't see how we can win this one

Based on what I have seen with this year’s charges, I just don’t see how they can win this one. Painful to watch, hopefully my DVR will malfunction.

by cyberdbk on Feb 17, 2012 2:08 PM PST reply actions  

For the Red Storm's sake I want to be positive...

But St. John’s has 6 players. One weighs more than 200 pounds. That’s a problem against a big front line.

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by picodulce on Feb 17, 2012 7:44 PM PST up reply actions  

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