Pac-12’s Larry Scott is Not a Fan of Dan Guerrero’s Dumb Football Scheduling
by Nestor on Feb 8, 2012 6:42 AM PST
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PrintLast November news came out that Dan Guerrero against UCLA's best interests scheduled a "neutral" site game against Texas in Dallas. We discussed why that game was a classic case of dumb scheduling here and here. So we are not going to repeat those same discussions again. However, it appears it is just not us here at BN, who thinks this kind of scheduling is ridiculous.
Bryan Fischer notes on CBS that Pac-12 will no longer permit non-conference "neutral site" football games "unless the conference gets their cut of the media rights":
No member institution shall enter into an agreement to play a neutral-site football game (except in circumstances where such neutral-site game is the away leg of a home-and-home series) unless such agreement provides the Conference with the exclusive broadcast rights and digital rights in all media, and copyright to such neutral-site game.
In other words in the future Pac-12 will not allow incompetent administrators like Chianti to schedule "neutral" site games against Texas in Dallas, unless the Longhorns also agree to come out to LA. It is too bad that this rule was not in place last year.
Still it is good to see the Pac-12 front office realizing that this kind of stupid scheduling doesn't help the conference. Now only if we had similar competent leadership at Morgan Center, we'd be in good shape.
GO BRUINS.
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Real Question.
Besides being incompetent at his job, what reasons did Dan Guerrero have to set up this scheduling?What possible incentives could have came from this scheduling decision? I know he is terrible at his job, but when he made this move, c’mon…how could any AD, no matter how inexperienced or unqualified, make this type of deal?
Money
It will bring UCLA some chunk of change – which is always helpful in funding salaries such as $700k for the highest paid AD in the Pac-12.
by Nestor on Feb 8, 2012 6:57 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Yep, 1000% right
also, Chianti Dan was doing it to make up for his mismanagement of the department
I think it's that
but I also think Chianti Dan thinks he is hobnobbing with Jerry Jones. He thinks this makes him a big shot.
By the way, if I understand correctly, neutral site games would be ok without a home and home series, if the exclusive broadcast rights and all other rights go to the Pac-12.
But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.
Right
That is correct. But the way Scott and Pac-12 is going about this — it would ensure that a Pac-12 program is not put in a disadvantageous situation like Chianti did in this instance.
The way I interpret it
1. If it is a stand-alone neutral site game, the Pac-12 must have all the rights
2. If it is part of the home-and-home series, the other team can do whatever they want for their home game, including a neutral site game
3. If it is part of the home-and-home series, the Pac-12 team can have a neutral site game for in lieu of its home game, if and only if the Pac-12 has all the rights.
Translation: Chianti Dan is an Intergalactic Moron
But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.
Texas-sized donuts!
That’s the real reason why Dan was willing to go back to Texas for a “neutral” site game. Have you ever seen them….they’re HUGE!
I see...
Or maybe some chunk of change for a full size practice field? Probably not.
it's only 80 yards.
the field represents the level of investment in the program. Both come up short.
What's wrong with not getting the joke?
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by firstto100 on Feb 8, 2012 9:38 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
"What's wrong with being the butt of 95% of all jokes here on BN?"
Was it something that I said?
Dump Dan!
by bruinclassof10 on Feb 8, 2012 9:43 AM PST up reply actions
Indeed
The butt of 95% jokes referred to Chianti Dan, not you callen!
Dump Dan!
by bruinclassof10 on Feb 8, 2012 3:18 PM PST up reply actions
Sarcasm.
But I think Chianti’s actual quote was "What’s wrong eith Spaulding?"
by orlandobruin on Feb 8, 2012 9:40 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Maybe we petition the Commissioner to take over UCLA athletics
There’s precedent. Major League Baseball took over the Expos. Bowie Kuhn vetoed Charlie Finley’s attempts to sell Vida Blue to the Yankees and then to the Reds based on the notion that the sale would benefit already rich teams but would not give the Athletics anything significant in return.
I guess the question is whether Chianti Dan’s destruction of UCLA athletics has reached the point that it hurts the entire conference, and I think it has. There is ccnference revenue being lost when we play to a partially filled stadium. Maybe the way to get rid of Guerrerror is to start making noise in the commissioner’s office.
I am not a fan of this commissioner, but he certainly cannot be criticized for doing nothing. Unlike the seventh inert gas, Guerrerron.
Question what he has done, if you want . . .
. . . but at least he has done SOMETHING. Unlike the brain dead Tom Hansen. Many don’t like the addition of Utah and Colorado (I know you don’t Fox), but I think he has done much more for the conference in two seasons than Hansen did in his entire career.
Scott has also spearheaded the new TV deal, getting a Pac 12 network (so we can all watch UCLA non-revenue sports on a regular basis), the Pac 12 BIG 10 partnership in FB and other sports, an updated logo, a more unified approach as a conference, to name a few.
You forgot
a cool new logo, a championship game that brings in more $$ and just more buzz surrounding the conference in general. If we had a Larry Scott-like AD figure, we’d turn LA, blue and gold. Instead, we struggle to find Adidas gear in Santa Monica, jerseys that look good and we can’t even get the color blue right!!
Dump Dan!
by bruinclassof10 on Feb 8, 2012 9:41 AM PST up reply actions
I mentioned the logo.
Otherwise, I agree with everything you added. It is disgusting to me to hear about how hard it is to try to find UCLA apparel in L.A.
by orlandobruin on Feb 8, 2012 10:32 AM PST up reply actions
Sorry I struggle to stay awake in the morning
Excellent points. Outside of Westwood, I think you’ll find more Boise State or even Fresno State gear at stores,
Dump Dan!
by bruinclassof10 on Feb 8, 2012 3:22 PM PST up reply actions
How did I know
this was your comment, Fox, before I scrolled down enough to see your name? I love the idea.
Roses are red, violets are blue...f*** $C.
I wonder how much sway Larry Scott has
He understands how much revenue that athletics can bring in for a university. I wonder if he can put Dan in timeout or strongly suggest to Gene, that a change is necessary.
Dump Dan!
I don't think he can do that
Being in a conference is voluntary, so I don’t think the commissioner gets to tell any president what to do. In fact, it is often the opposite, he needs their votes.
But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.
Thanks for the clarification
It’s a shame that Gene B. is basically Chianti Dan in Chancellor form too.
Dump Dan!
by bruinclassof10 on Feb 8, 2012 10:20 AM PST up reply actions
I Can Just Hear Chianti Dan Saying Something Like....
“WHAT, you mean this isn’t a good idea???”
God help us. WHEN can we rid ourselves of this incompetent fool?
Los Angeles Rams and the UCLA Bruins!!!!!
by Minnesota Bruinfan on Feb 8, 2012 10:55 AM PST reply actions
"What's wrong with scheduling a neutral site game vs. Texas...in Texas?"
“Isn’t Dallas the same distance away from Austin, as Westwood?”
Dump Dan!
by bruinclassof10 on Feb 8, 2012 3:23 PM PST up reply actions
Not quite
More like San Luis Obispo. But I’m pretty sure there are a gazillion UT fans/alums in Dallas…
But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.
But it's 200 whole miles
Alums of a school that dominates conversation in that state surely wouldn’t go that far or even live in one of that state’s most populous cities. That’s just crazy talk.
I know
what’s a truck? Do they drive in Texas?
But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.
Yeah well Fresno is pretty damn close to UCLA
According to Chianti. After all, we had ads out in Fresno trying to get Bruin fans there to the Rose Bowl…
What’s that? We were trying to get FRESNO ST fans to the Rose Bowl!? Holy Shi-
Must you, Ty?
Have we not suffered enough?
But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.
Meh
there goes the trip to Dallas I had planned… :(
you guys think it's possible
that by scheduling this game on his own, the deal will bring in money to UCLA alone as opposed to the entire Pac-12 conference? I still don’t see any benefits of chianti doing this other than the short-sighted goal of bringing money in, at the cost of losing / selling out
Here are the possible reasons why this game might have been scheduled...
(1) Doughnut’s incompetant leadership in the revenue sports and blunders in financing of his poorly designed construction projects has resulted in U.C.L.A. being in a financial hole. Getting paid to play in a game, regardless to the long term damage to the program, makes “sense” to Doughnut right now.
(2) Doughnut was too star struck or now considers himself a “player” in the sports world by being involved in Jerry’s game.
(3) He is just stupid and couldn’t run a hot dog cart successfully… let alone a multi-million dollar athletic department.
Unfortunately, I think it is #1, #2 and #3.
by beanandcheeseburrito on Feb 8, 2012 12:23 PM PST reply actions
Also...
He could have received a kick back for scheduling the game. $$$ or 2 groupons to a bbq joint.
by beanandcheeseburrito on Feb 8, 2012 12:24 PM PST up reply actions
He was starstruck
plain and simple.
But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.
Going to play Devil's Advocate.
This might have been a smart move on Guerror’s part. Let’s say for the sake of argument that Donut Dan got wind of this change coming down the line. He might have seen an opportunity wherein he can get UCLA a good payday (While most likely playing the sacrificial lambs in Dallas) before such a game would obligate the school to split revenue.
I know, I know, I’m going out on a limb. I for one think Guerror had no clue what he was doing, got duped into this game by Jerry Jones, and it only now becomes apparent there is a silver lining to the game.
Just my $0.02
Winning is not a sometime thing; it's an all the time thing. You don't win once in a while; you don't do things right once in a while; you do them right all the time. Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing. ~ Vince Lombardi
Here's how it went down
1. During the NCAA basketball tournament, Chianti Dan got to go see the stadium
2. While meeting Jerry Jones, Jerry said “you know, I think this would be a great place to have a college football game”
3. Eager to show Jerry that he is a bold entrepreneur, Chianti Dan says “you know Jerry, we have a football team, we’ll come play here!” and shakes Jerry’s hand
4. Ever the smart businessman, Jerry figures he already has his little lamb, and while snickering, runs over to Texas and says “guys, you’ll never believe the loser I found to come play you here!”
But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.
I have no doubt.
Winning is not a sometime thing; it's an all the time thing. You don't win once in a while; you don't do things right once in a while; you do them right all the time. Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing. ~ Vince Lombardi
Totally agree about negotiating
for the best possible payout, rights, and return favors.
But, I do think it is cool to play in the big stadium. Isn’t like the biggest most over-the-top stadium in the world?
Like the Coliseum of 100BC.
Ok, I may be going over the top on that but I do think it will be a thrill for our players to game in an NFL stadium. Too bad there is no LA stadium to go tit-for-tat on…
by robotchampion on Feb 8, 2012 7:11 PM PST up reply actions
It would have been a cool spot
to play, say, Florida. Not Texas!
But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.
Can we just drop the whole Chianti Dan thing, and call him out for what he really is?
I get it, he went on a wine trip, he’s lazy, incompetent, has convoluted ideas, and bumbles around hoping for success, and settling for his version of “good” effort. He is dumb, he is deft, he is delusional, he is a dud, a dolt, a donkey, a dufus, a dunce. A pound of donuts has more worth and collective value than him. So lets be more blunt about it, because frankly what BN is doing now is not effective at getting rid of him. It’s time to be crass, until we get our pound of flesh, and alliteration doesn’t hurt either.
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