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UCLA Football Recruiting Roundtable - Part 3: Filling "Needs", the Quarterback Battle, and Linebacker Predictions

Continuing our roundtable discussion regarding Coach Mora's first recruiting class, today we're addressing filling "needs," the pending quarterback battle and predicting the impact of our class of linebackers. In case you missed it, in Part I of our recruiting roundtable discussion on Coach Mora's first recruiting class, we gave letter grades and discussed our favorite offensive and defensive recruits. We followed in Part II by discussing our "impact players" on both sides of the ball, predicting which freshmen might play immediately, and discussing our favorite "unheralded" recruit.

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8. Do you think the staff addressed the areas of need?

AHMB: When a staff signs 26, you know they are looking for an infusion of talent. I thought the staff closed well with the wide receivers, which was a definite area of need. Overall, the class is fairly balanced, but could end up a little thin in the secondary if Perkins moves to running back and Goforth moves to wide receiver.

Ryan R.: Undoubtedly. It's my favorite thing about the class. I don't think we're particularly thin in the secondary. Sure, we'll need a couple more next year, but we're fine for now and that's true at another position or two as well. I can't think of any position in which I feel we're thin and that's because we addressed every need in this recruiting class.

Achilles: Was there any position on the field that wasn't an area of need? They did the best they could but they would have needed to sign 40 guys to cover every area of need.

Bellerophon: Definitely. We got the QBs we need for the future (you always need to bring in at least one QB per year, so that you always have depth, but that you're never relying too much on one recruit to turn into "the guy"). We got WRs, which we really need. And we upgraded our talent across the board, plus adding some very good big uglies along the offensive line. I'm very pleased with this class.

Nestor: Yep. We needed WRs. Eric Yarber closed with what appears to be 4 good ones. We needed DBs. We brought in a bunch of good ones. We plugged the obvious hole at QB depth chart. Perhaps it would have been amazing to bring in someone like Shaq Thompson or Seth Jacobs. But really there is nothing to complain about here. I am very happy.

Freesia39: Heck yes. QBs? Check. OL? Check. WR? Desperately needed, double check. This is a very well rounded class, and the main reason why this was a happy signing day.

gbruin: Yes. There were lots of concerns about oversigning. I see that as Mora addressing his concerns with the roster and bringing in the kind of player he wanted going forward. I think coming back from last year that we are pretty good at RB and TE and maybe DB. We saw this staff bring in good talent and depth at QB, WR, OL, DL, LB and DB's to fill in the holes.

9. Looking into the horizon, what's your prediction on the pending Hundley-Millweard-Fuller quarterback battle?

AHMB: With UCLA's recent luck, we might need 10 quarterbacks on the roster. All three look like incredibly talented players. Hundley will have a head start because of his year advantage, but Millweard is coming in as an early entrant and will play in spring ball. While Fuller may not arrive until the summer, his physical gifts will help make up for lost time.

Ryan R.: I've seen lots of video and read a lot about Millweard and Fuller, but especially at the QB position, that's not enough. You have to see them play. I'll say Hundley wins out because he has an extra year of practice under his belt, but I'm not going to pretend to be capable of a good prediction.

Achilles: By pending, do you mean in two years? Because I think Brehaut and Prince are still in the mix for the upcoming season, particularly Brehaut. Down the line -- I dunno. I'm excited to see Fuller play.

Bellerophon: I think Hundley ends up being the starting QB. He has all the physical tools. It 100% depends on how fast he can pick up Mazzone's system. Prince just doesn't have the ability to make accurate throws, so I think he's out of the running. Brehaut doesn't seem to have his head into it (at least from his public comments), so I think he's out too. Millweard is the prototypical Mazzone QB, but Mazzone won't be able to run his prototypical offense this year, with how thin we are at WR, so I think Millweard redshirts, but ends up starting as a RS SO once Hundley's time is up.

Nestor: I still think we cannot count out Brehaut, like I mentioned above. I have a feeling Brehaut has a chance to shine in Mazzone's spread oriented attack. I think this kind offense, which will look to stretch the field with quick strikes, could be a good fit for Brehaut who has been served with very poor coaching at UCLA. Remember Brehaut was also a 4 start, Elite-11 QB when he arrived in Westwood.

So if Brehaut attacks spring ball this year, I could see him emerging as a starter. That said if Brehaut doesn't get it done, I could see Hundley breaking into the lineup by third or fourth game like Tommy Maddox did back in 1990 season when the Brett Johnson-Jimmy Bonds nightmare ended after the first few games.

As for Fuller/Millweard, it is difficult to project how it will turn out. Fuller seems like the obvious candidate to get some action as a true frosh, but don't forget Millweard is enrolling early, giving him a head start in Mazzone's scheme. The competition should be fun to watch.

Freesia39: I think Hundley will win among the three, but we will have a senior QB to start the season in the fall. Which one, I'm not sure. I think Brehaut has the edge, but I never, ever count out Kevin Prince.

gbruin: Hundley. If he were included in this recruiting class, he'd still be our number one QB prospect. Having a year on campus under his belt makes him more comfortable assuming the necessary leadership role. I think the recent comment from the coaching staff that one of the three will be the starter says a lot about the fates of Brehaut and Prince.

10. Which linebacker do you see making the biggest impact at UCLA?

AHMB: When all is said and done, I think Iese and Castro will make the biggest impact simply due to the fact that they project to rush the passer more than Porter or Kenny Orjioke. Castro looks like he can roll out of bed and sack a quarterback. He will probably make an earlier impact than Iese, but Iese may have more rounded utility than Castro in addition to the ability to rush the passer.

Ryan R.: It sounds like we will be playing both 4-3 and 3-4 so I'll go with Porter because he's such a good all-around linebacker that he's capable of playing very well in both schemes.

Achilles: Gonna skip this one, too. Just haven't seen enough of these players to really guess. I'm hoping Anthony Barr makes the most impact as a new linebacker.

Bellerophon: Aaron Porter is probably the least physically gifted, in terms of raw athletic ability, between him, Orjioke, Castro, and Iese, but he strikes me as the most cerebral. I see him in that Christian Taylor mold of MLB. Not the fastest guy, but I think he'll be the QB of the defense in his later years at UCLA.

Nestor: I love our LB class. Absolutely love it. The potential of this class reminds me of the class from two years ago when we brought in Jordan Zumwalt, Aramide Olaniyan, Eric Kendricks and Anthony Barr (yes, Barr was listed as an OLB). It is difficult to pick from this year's class of Aaron Porter (6-2/230), Kenny Orjioke (6-4.5/223), Jeremy Castro (6-3/245) and Nate Iese (6-4/238) and figure out who will make the biggest impact at UCLA. I think Castro and Iese could potentially be explosive playmakers in the 3-4 scheme. Orjioke is just getting started as he is barely 17 (!). Porter has the potential to be an anchor. Sorry to take the easy way out. I call this a dead heat. Told you I love this class of LBs. GO BRUINS.

Freesia39: I am going with Castro.

gbruin: Hard to say at this point. I want a guy with great lateral speed, pursues the right angle, and who is a sure tackler. Since Tele hasn't posted the videos of the LB class yet (!)(ed. note, it's hard to watch these guys side by side. But based on the prior recruiting posts, I will say Aaron Porter. He sounds like he is quick and makes great reads, both of which are key to solid LB play. I am also really excited about Kenny Orjioke. This kid sounds like a great athlete who is just learning the game and who will only get better. He could be a freak real soon.

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That concludes the Bruins Nation roundtable discussion on Coach Mora's first recruiting class. Fire away with any additional thoughts and comments.

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I believe that our 4 LBs

will end up being our 4 starting LBs by year 3, Porter and Orijoke (after the kid adds another 15-20 lbs of muscle) will be dominant ILBs while Iese and Castro develop into stud edge-rushing OLBs.

by BillytheSid on Feb 8, 2012 12:32 PM PST reply actions  

Linebackers

Initially Castro will most likely have the biggest impact from this class, as he seems the most D1 ready athlete in the group. This is not a knock against Porter or Iese/Orjioke but merely logistically it is going to be very difficult for either to find playing time early on.

Porter is going to be coming in as a MLB which is not something a true freshmen just jumps right into, at least not at this level. But down the line I definitely see him like Bellerophon said as the QB of the defense.

Iese and Orjioke are both in the same boat for me as they both need to learn the position they are going to play before they make any impact.

At the same time Iese is the one guy in the class that I think will out perform the experts expectations. From what I have heard he sounds like a true athlete and even more importantly a competitor. I can not wait to see him bring that swagger to the field.

A bruin is good forever, a Trojan is only good... ahh eff it, just use tin foil

by MaltBaa on Feb 8, 2012 2:07 PM PST reply actions  

The slacker chimes in

8. Do you think the staff addressed the areas of need?

Yes, except for one: they didn’t recruit a new Athletic Director. We need someone to replace Chianti Dan and I think we can find a senior in high school who could do that.

9. Looking into the horizon, what’s your prediction on the pending Hundley-Millweard-Fuller quarterback battle?

I see Hundley winning the job outright, and hopefully the other two guys will redshirt. But Fuller may be too good an athlete to keep on the sidelines…

10. Which linebacker do you see making the biggest impact at UCLA?

I think Porter seems to have the most smarts out of all those guys, but Castro can probably play today. So I’d say Castro to start playing more earlier, then Porter to become the Captain of the Defense and having the biggest impact down the road.

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Feb 8, 2012 2:13 PM PST reply actions  

Fuller

I’d like to see Fuller as our version of Percy Harvin from his Florida days.

Started 26 of 36 games played, rushing for more than 1,500 yards and receiving for more than 1,500 yards. Only player in Florida history to have 100 yards rushing and 100 yards receiving in a single game.

- Scout.com

by Barnes1212 on Feb 8, 2012 2:36 PM PST reply actions  

As to Fuller
As a junior, Devin Fuller completed 95 of 143 passes for 1,886 yards, 20 touchdowns and five interceptions. He also carried the ball 191 times for 2,306 yards and 32 touchdowns, giving him a total of 4,150 yards and 52 scores on the year.

-Scout.com

by Barnes1212 on Feb 8, 2012 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Brehaut should start at QB

I really feel that Brehaut is the best fit QB for Mazzone’s offense next year and should get the start at Rice, but dont be surprised if Hundley is the #2 and he ends up taking alot of snaps. The following year should be interesting when it will be Hundley’s job to lose, but a Mazzone prototype QB in Millweard will be itching to play, and it seems coach Mora really wants to see what Devin Fuller can do behind center. Should be exciting!

Go Bruins!

by BleedsBlueNGold1 on Feb 8, 2012 3:03 PM PST reply actions  

"the recent comment from the coaching staff that one of the three [Hundley, Fuller or Millweard] will be the starter"

Can some please provide a link to this comment? As much as I love Prince’s heart, I don’t love the overthrows and interceptions as much.

by Gbek on Feb 8, 2012 3:49 PM PST reply actions  

its probably from adrian klemm

IIRC he said this during a radio interview. Try to google it or search the site – I’m sure it’s here somewhere.

by MathBruin on Feb 8, 2012 3:51 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Where did I read that?

Maybe it was a tweet from a coach or a comment from Mazzone? I’m positive I did see that, but I’ll have to dig around.

greg in denver, U.C.L.A. guy for life - BruinsNation.com

by gbruin on Feb 8, 2012 3:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes, with a huge assist from MathBruin above

Klemm said it on a radio show, and it was fanshotted here. HT to themichael21 for the fanshot.

greg in denver, U.C.L.A. guy for life - BruinsNation.com

by gbruin on Feb 8, 2012 3:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Next year win/loss

As to the overall situation, and how many the team wins, I firmly believe we will all be witnesses to how much good coaching can coach up a team of football players to win “over their heads”, as in win games just on coaching and not on the facts. We are all going to enjoy this I hope. The first indications will obviously come in Spring Ball and should give us a taste of what is in store. If the coaching staff delivers in the “coaching them up” category as other coaching staffs at other schools and long ago at UCLA have done, we are going to see at least 2-3 wins where we can look back and see that we won on coaching alone. Then the Rose Bowl will see attendance improve a lot.. This is a unique time for all of us…

Mensgym

by Mensgym on Feb 8, 2012 3:57 PM PST reply actions  

I hope you're right

but Spring Ball really has shown us nothing in the past…we’ll know 3 or 4 games into the season. I do expect to see a completely different attitude. Some of these coaches, you don’t mess with them!

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Feb 8, 2012 4:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I wonder if the "issues" surrounding Spring ball stemmed from the inept coaches.

I don’t have a better word than “issues.” Everything seemed weird. Our offense couldn’t score, so we thought the defense might be good, then the defense couldn’t do anything. It all seemed so totally disorganized. We heard that the practices were “really good” from the coaches, but people who were there said things looked other than “really good.” Spring ball just never seemed to result in any improvement in the players or resolution of who would be where on the depth chart.

I hope the new regime will change things.

by Fox 71 on Feb 8, 2012 5:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah I agree

I was at the spring game and yeah saying our team had “issues” is a good way to put it. I really think that the staff was just totally inept last year. To say Joe Tresey’s defense is bad is the understatement of the year. I think the players never gelled with the new coaches (Tresey and Johnson) and I;m sure they could see the writing on the wall.

by jwher on Feb 8, 2012 9:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm not sold on Castro yet

Methinks hey may see little PT (if at all) as a freshman unless his body blows up within the next 7 months. He’s not small, but I don’t know if he’s as strong as some of the other incoming players, let alone the current guys on the roster. Of course, 7 months of Alosi may remedy that…

by MathBruin on Feb 8, 2012 4:00 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

Brehaut is gone. He will be playing baseball and I don't think that will cut it with the new coaching staff.

Prince is a serviceable backup. He’s got guts and he can run, but no accuracy with his arm.

It’s Hundley or one of the true freshman this year.

by Chicago Bruin on Feb 9, 2012 2:52 AM PST reply actions  

Where did you hear that he was gone?

Is that just your opinion? He didn’t miss spring camp last year and I don’t think he would this year. I think as long as he does the workouts and attends the camp, the staff will be fine with him playing baseball.

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Feb 9, 2012 7:43 AM PST up reply actions  

sounds like opinion

Mora seems to have taken a no-nonsense approach. Maybe Chicago Bruin thinks Mora will disapprove. I agree with some people on the boards here that Brehaut can still be a great QB. He was a decorated recruit that I remember being very excited about landing.

That said. I think Hundley has the most talent and excitement. Last year everyone touted him as the biggest get in decades it seemed. He may not be Mazzonne’s atypical QB, but he is not a run oriented QB, he can throw. I think Milweard redshirts, and that leaves (realistically) Brehaut, Hundley, and Fuller. Fuller is behind the ball in terms of experience, and that may be too much to overcome. Brehaut is still splitting interests, and that may hurt his chances. Hundley is young, gifted, and hungry. I think he takes us forward.

by sponkey21 on Feb 9, 2012 9:13 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm not debating the starter

I’m asking whether Brehaut will still be on the team, which I think he will.

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Feb 9, 2012 9:49 AM PST up reply actions  

I didn't say you were

I just commented on the fact that I don’t think there is any source for Chicago Bruins post, just an opinion. then I expounded on why I think (also my opinion) his splitting of interests will not get him kicked off (as Chicago Bruin suggests), but will likely cost him valuable reps and ultimately play time and the starting role.

by sponkey21 on Feb 9, 2012 12:47 PM PST up reply actions  

People said that last year

and he still split the reps with Prince, and ended up doing better than Prince. So I don’t think it should cost him reps.

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Feb 9, 2012 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Hurry up April!

IF Brehaut has a full spring, he has as good a shot as any to be the starting QB. If he misses even part of spring practice because of his baseball commitment, he will likely be down the depth chart. Coach Mora has clearly stated the single most important part of spring practice is to rapidly identify a clear leader at QB. That player will be THE GUY to lead this team. There will be no quarterbacking by committee. It’s strictly NFL style for CJM; his QB will start every game he’s healthy enough to play in and the rest are his backups.

by 4everBruin on Feb 9, 2012 5:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't think people understand what Brehaut did last year.

If anything, it shows that he is more committed to UCLA football than almost any other player.

Not only is he attending baseball practice and playing on that team, he is not missing a single football practice or meeting. If it comes down to it, he misses baseball to be with the football team.

The kid is juggling being a full-time D1 Football player, being a part of one of the best D1 baseball teams in the country and is going to get a degree at one of the best schools in the US.

If anyone thinks that him playing baseball is why Prince was constantly supported by CRN and always got the nod when both were healthy, they obviously weren’t around when, by most accounts, Brehaut has outplayed KP in EVERY Fall Camp that they’ve competed against one another.

Baffles me.

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-Jose Guillen

by IE Angel on Feb 9, 2012 6:30 PM PST up reply actions  

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