sick of all the anti-dorrell *******
We have one close game, a game that we WON and the first thing BN does is put up a picture of Dorrell looking retarded.
Just cuz you guys started that firekarldorell website doesn't mean can you point the finger at him for every imperfect game that the Bruins have.
By that logic, when UCLA basketball barely beat Oregon State or Oregon or any other shit team that the UCLA Basketball Bruins (might I mention a loss to SUC? The Rice of the Pac-10?) should have beaten handily but didn't, you should have had a caricature of howland's face on the BN frontpage, looking just as bad as Dorrell's. Remember when UCLA lost to Drexel, the Rice of basketball in the NCAA last year during the NIT??? 57-56? How is that not perfectly analogous to the Rice game?
UCLA played a SHIT team: check.
UCLA was in the beginning of the season: check.
UCLA almost lost to the shit team:...
actually, UCLA football never almost lost this game, at least compared to the Basketball game. Anyway, you get my point.
Listen, I respect everyone on BN. It's like my morning paper for chrissakes and I always look for BN insights whenever I wanna get my Bruin sports thang on, but I think you need to tone it down.
When all is said and done, you might be right. Dorrell might have a shit season and if he doesn't get at least 8 wins and Beat 'SC I think he should be shitcanned. but ONE ugly game doesn't mean anything. As I noted before, a lot of shit teams have bad games. ITS INEVITABLE. The important thing is to see how a team bounces back from a shit game. Look at Notre Dame this week. If we lose to Washington, then I give you full permission to go nuts. And go ahead and put a caricature of Dorrell on the page.
But I think Dorrell is a great guy, maybe not a great coach, but he has proven that he's got class and that he bleeds blue and gold. And the least we can do to one of our own who has got class is to give him or her the respect he or she deserves when he or she deserves it. Right now, I think he still deserves it.
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of BruinsNation's (BN) editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of BN's editors.
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by guttylittlebruins on Sep 10, 2006 10:14 PM PDT reply actions
AMEN
by bruinelder on Sep 10, 2006 10:29 PM PDT reply actions
Hmmm
I will say this about last nights game, the things that made the game close were not coaching errors. Indirectly you could blame the coaching staff for not having the players fired up and ready to go. But muffing punts, getting holding penalties, fumbling, throwing interceptions and generally not executing are should fall on the players first.
I think the silver lining in this is the coaches will be pissed and step the intensity of practice up to make sure we come out firing against Washington in a few weeks and lets hope that's exactly what happens.
you're absolutely wrong
I do agree that Howland is a better coach than Dorrell, but UCLA basketball had its off days as well.
by guttylittlebruins on Sep 10, 2006 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions
not true
Howland took us to the national championship game, KD has yet to get us to the Pac 10 championship - and its not going to happen this year. As someone else pointed out, there are far more games to mess up in bball, and to recover. Howland gets more chances to recover, thats just the way it is.
Nestor has done a great job and goes to great lengths in pointing out facts in his arguments and how he measures KDs performance. This isnt just bashing as you suggest. I can see where you have a beef with the picture, it can be viewed as bashing, particularly this early in the season. I point out that he didnt draw it so that fact should show you others are thinking the same. Besides, he runs the site. If you want a pro-KD site build it ... extenddorrell.com ... I think its available.
Finally, no one here is saying anything about the quality of the individual that is KD. He is a good guy, I dont think anyone has argued otherwise. But that is quite different from saying he is the best coach for UCLA football.
We all are holding KD accountable. Thats the bottom line.
by DumpDorrell on Sep 11, 2006 12:35 AM PDT up reply actions
With each mention of Ben Howland...
Compare the track records of the two. One deserves the benefit of the doubt, one does not.
Almost getting beat by one of the worst teams in D1 is going to bring criticism. If you cannot accept that, there are plenty of subscription based websites that are available where the patrons are perfectly happy with 7 win seasons.
Sorry, but that shit will not fly here.
I don't agree with it, but I expect it
MOlson = Hugh Jackson
by DumpDorrell on Sep 11, 2006 12:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Not nearly that smart!
hugh johnson
by BobbyBruin on Sep 13, 2006 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions
well..
by stevetotheo on Sep 10, 2006 11:19 PM PDT reply actions
Punch in the face??????????
So, what you are saying is...
Tell that to Charlie Weiss, Steve Spurrier, Pete Carroll, Urban Meyer, Jeff Tedford, Joe Paterno, and Bobby Bowden. I don't think they got the memo.
by guttylittlebruins on Sep 11, 2006 3:50 AM PDT up reply actions
and if you're wondering why im up this late/early
B) procrastinating all weekend long and if you procrastinate while you are in
C) law school. it bites you in the ass.
now back to "acquisition by gifts." oy.
by guttylittlebruins on Sep 11, 2006 3:51 AM PDT up reply actions
I resent...
Beat that!
It isn't hatred and bile. It was a horribly coached and played game. We don't hate Karl, we don't want him fired, and we don't want to punch him in the face. We want this program to finally reach it's potential.
We were singing the praises during the impressive victory over Utah, and were venting our anger over the poorly executed game. That's it. One game. Big drop in performance, big increase in criticism.
Hugs for everyone!
by HomeBruin @ Bruins Nation on Sep 10, 2006 11:51 PM PDT reply actions
Thanks blackjack
The thing is, if you're right, and this is going to prove to be a good season, it will be clearer and clearer as the season goes on.
Let them hang themselves now and keep saying that this is going to be a sub-.500 season. Then, when the season is over and we've beaten all the dire predictions, bring these posts back to haunt them at the beginning of the 2007 season when they're still saying Dorrell should be fired because we haven't won a national championship.
You're right, blackjack, this website is unfairly anti-Dorrell, and they're blaming him for some things that aren't his fault here. But this diary post isn't going to stop them, simply because nothing (including a 9-3 season and beating 'SC, I'm willing to bet) will.
Like you, I'm sure, when this is the first or second website I read tomorrow morning, I'll come and read whatever comments are written in response to what you wrote here and just wish the moderators of this site could let go of their overriding obsession with getting rid of Dorrell. The longer they have to defend themselves against diary entries like yours, the more likely that is to happen, so thanks for voicing your opinion.
Who predicted a sub-.500 season?
by HomeBruin @ Bruins Nation on Sep 11, 2006 12:11 AM PDT up reply actions
dunno
Correction, I guess
And I don't remember which one, but I think someone quoted a website predicting we'd be at .500 or worse.
Other than that, I think it's pretty clear that a lot of people here are "predicting" 9-3 just so they can say at the end of the season that Dorrell didn't meet expectations that nobody else I can find anywhere expects UCLA to match.
Of course, I'm the one optimistic enough to think it will happen.
To quote another neocon since I'm thinking I might be compared to them anyway, "Bring 'em on."
Someone quoted another website
We went from them, to that one guy (maybe he's implying that it could be bad), to somebody quoting another prediction in the media.
Most people predicted at least 8-4, and several optomists predicted 10-2 or better. Since I started the thread but did not post my prediction, I'll just say that I expect a good record. At least 8 wins, maybe more (depending on the breaks).
by HomeBruin @ Bruins Nation on Sep 11, 2006 1:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Yes, I predicted 6-6
by DumpDorrell on Sep 11, 2006 8:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Exaggeration, thy name is blackjack
As for comparing your crap to Howland, you couldn't possibly be more misguided. If you think I was going to be unhappy with a man that kept winning during, before, and after that horrific streak of injuries that befell the team, you're out of your frickin mind. Call me next time KD is down to 25 healthy scholarship players, then we can have a fair comparison.
by scittles on Sep 11, 2006 2:48 AM PDT reply actions
My expectations are as high as yours...
I'm not the one exagerrating. Everyone is having a shit fit but we are 2-0. If we lose to washington, you guys are right. If we beat their ass, then I'm right. I'm going to shut up now. We'll see what happens.
by guttylittlebruins on Sep 11, 2006 3:54 AM PDT up reply actions
You should try reading responses again
by scittles on Sep 11, 2006 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Watch your language
That's all I will say to your little rant which doesn't merit much of response.
well obviously it merits a reply
by guttylittlebruins on Sep 11, 2006 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Comparing KD to Howland? Silly.
Howland teams found a way to win most games -- even with important players hurt and unavailable.
When Howland thought he didn't to a good job -- HE STOOD UP AND TOOK RESPONSIBILITY. He said more than once "I made mistakes" or "I was out coached".
The only comparison that is apt -- they are both men of integrity and character.
One is a great coach and teacher. We can't say that about the other, yet.
We can like them both, yet doubt that one is the person who ought to coach our team.
I, for one, think that comparing Howland to Dorrel isn't like comparing an apple to an orange -- it is like comparing a Ferrari to a Yugo.
Which one would you want?
Dorrell
I believe in supporting Coach D, but his flaws seep out so easily every year. Flaws that become obvious even to the most beligerent UCLA fan at the rose bowl.
He's our coach this season, and there's no changing it so I will support him and not trash him all day long. But the bottom line is we must improve as the season moves on, or well, let's just be positive.
by BobbyBruin on Sep 11, 2006 5:18 PM PDT reply actions
Its not just about winning.
by bruinelder on Sep 12, 2006 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions

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