Chow On UCLA Campus (w his attorney?)

by bluestreet on Dec 11, 2007 12:08 PM PST Comment 16 comments

From a poster on Dohn's blog (yeah I know terrible source) who claims to work on campus:

I work on campus and I was told by a member of the Athletic department that Norm Chow is on Campus this morning.

And then there is this from Bruinzone:

Chow is on campus right now, and he has an attorney with him

Posted by Bruinbalssy on December 11, 2007 at 11:49:32

I don't know if Chow is going to be abe to get personal and chummy with his attorney being present. I think this may be bad move. Do other interviewees bring their attorneys. Does the attorney screen questions? Overkill. I expected better than that from Chow. It's certainly not his first interview.

Assuming he is on campus is true, why would he bring an attorney with him? For his second interview?

I know I am speculating here. But there are just too many indicators pointing to Chow. I feel like throwing up.

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A lawyer

For the contract negotiations.

I can't really think of any other reason. I second the desire to vomit.

by njbruin on Dec 11, 2007 12:13 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Maybe it was a slip and fall

Im trying to look at the bright side

by charnaw on Dec 11, 2007 12:17 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

What I'm hearing now

is Mooch has priced himself out, the administration won't support Leach and his eccentric personality or Neuheisel and his past NCAA issues. My source has told me that DG wanted Leach and spoke to his agent, agreeing to the major sticking points, but the administration told DG no. DG will now start to explore some of the coordinators.

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Dec 11, 2007 12:24 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

In other words

DG is not showing enough spine. After 5 years he still doesn't have the political capital to stand up for his vision. Heard the same stuff re. Mooch and Leach couple of days ago.

by bluestreet on Dec 11, 2007 12:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Eccentric Personality as a Bar?

Some of the best professors I had at UCLA had "eccentric" personalities.

Mary Holmes -- the very greatest, was captivating and brilliant. Yet, eccentric.

If my alma mater starts to bar eccentric personalities, it is not the school it was, or the school I want it to be.

This is, indeed, sickening, if true.

And, DG, if this is really happening, you have to fight for your choice -- get the word out. You'll be surprised at the support you get.

Last time, when it appears KD was selected over your objections, it was not held against you. But, if you take a second choice, again, without fighting for your first choice, it's on you. I think you need us, and our money as much as you need the approval of people like Morrison. Do you think he'd ask you who to hire for his department? Even respect your input? This is your signature hire. Protect yourself, if need be. Go public if this stuff is really happening.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Dec 11, 2007 12:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

DG and the decision process

I am stunned that DG has to seek permission to talk to a Mike Leach or anyone else. After the time he has had in the job, if he can't bring in his "guy" like a Leach, if I were DG, I would call the NCAA and see if they have a job. I thought Block was a better and smarter administrator than that.
Bill

BillSouthBay

by Mensgym on Dec 11, 2007 12:56 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Why are you letting DG off the hook?

If any of this is true, and he isn't standing up and being heard, by us and others, it is on him, not the Chancellor.

I'll wait this out. It may all be bad rumors. But, if it proves to be true, DG is toast in my eyes -- and I won't give a penny when he comes calling.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Dec 11, 2007 1:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

So far, we have had ioonly Chow on campus

and they're already negotiating a contract?

This cannot possibly be true. DG would be committing professional suicide conducting a one interview search. Even if every former coach said no, they have got to do more than one interview and signing press conference.

As sjh said, DG. You got a pass with the previous moron you hired. You won't get a pass this time.

by Fox 71 on Dec 11, 2007 1:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Relax

Have any of you considered that his attorney may also be his agent? Or maybe his attorney knows DG? Or maybe his attorney set the interview up?

Relax!

Just because his attorney is there does not mean that he cannot get chummy with DG, nor does it mean that they are negotiating a contract.

by thePuya on Dec 11, 2007 1:35 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

No

I can't believe this. I refuse to believe this, Chow would be a horrific hire, I though DG had better sense than this!?!

Victory or until next year!

by ncrpz2 on Dec 11, 2007 1:36 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Here is what I don't get (if this is true)

Aren't DG's successes with Howland and Savage enough for him to go to these administrators and say, "We did it your way before and look how that turned out?" I cut him slack for CTS since he had been on the job for less than six months and had not yet established himself. Are these administrators that stubborn to see that DG is quite able to make excellent hires and is DG that spineless that he would let them walk over him a second time?

I pray with all my heart this isn't true, but I have to admit I'm feeling incredibly low right now

by bruinbabe2000 on Dec 11, 2007 2:13 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

ANS = (upside down, page bottom) "NO".

DG is not King of the Athletic Department as are many of his counterparts at our sister institutions. Part of the AD's duty is to build "consensus" between what are often warring parties in the Hallowed Halls of Westwood.

It's snooty, Beverly Hills bullshit that brought us our nearly homogeneous student body, a library macing and the end of the midnight scream -- but anyway.

Picture an honest, well meaning and extremely competent Director of Operations trying against all hope to bend the iron beams of arrogance and complacency inside a gleaming, century-old tower of power.

Dan Guerrero is up to his ears in resistance, with only a small, vocal few on his side... and we're on the outside.

GO BRUIN BLUE.

by theREAL_LOGAN5 on Dec 11, 2007 2:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Uh oh

FireDG.com?

by SunshineSandwich on Dec 11, 2007 2:45 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Let's assume Chow is on campus

Chow was coaching the Titans last week and yesterday. NFL coaches are rarely allowed to travel during the week of games, especially in this case when you are speaking of an offensive coordinator of a playoff contender on the day after a tough loss that left them on the brink of playoff elimination. A coach that is allowed to travel is only allowed to travel on Mondays. We know that Chow was not interviewed last Monday (the search had not begun), thus today could only be Chow's first interview. He will not be hired after only one interview. If Chow is the guy, he'll have to come back for a 2nd interview and to negotiate the deal after that. A Chow announcement is not happening anytime soon.

As to the assumption, this report sounds a bit like" my brother's friend's cousin's girlfriend's uncle saw Ferris pass out at the 31 Flavors last night." I find it hard to believe that Chow would be interviewed on campus because (1) Guerrero is conducting a closed-door interview process, which would be undermined by parading the candidates across campus and (2) given the travel restrictions of an NFL offensive coordinator, there is almost no way that Chow would have gotten in a car and driven (or been driven) through LA traffic to UCLA and back to the airport. No, a screening interview of Chow would take place at an airport hotel to save 2 or 3 hours of travel for a busy man.

by BruinsRule on Dec 11, 2007 3:32 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

other day...

after practice i saw fields and kevin brown talking it up. from the bits and pieces i heard, talking about defensive and mainly coaching philosophies, and heard dewayne a lot...if fields is really this involved, we're screwed

by redsand514 on Dec 11, 2007 3:35 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Still worrisome

But it seems that, per Dohn, at least Mrs. Chow is denying the Chow in LA rumor:

I do not like addressing rumors people throw out there, but sometimes it is a necessity. I spoke with Norm Chow's wife today (she still lives in L.A.), and she related to me that her son called up to complain why Chow didn't stop by and say hello today since he was spotted at Panda Express at UCLA.
Yes, she got quite the chuckle out of it.
Sources continue to tell me Chow is being looked at by UCLA, but no interview has been scheduled at this point.

This is looking more and more like a trial balloon by the Walker/Chow crowd, but it still makes me nervous.

by Menelaus on Dec 11, 2007 5:54 PM PST reply actions 0 recs