CONGRATULATIONS TO OUR WARRIORS

by Nestor on Mar 6, 2008 10:33 PM PST in Basketball

I am sure glad our Ben Ball Warriors have more heart than some of our so-called chicken little fans who proclaim the sky is falling at the first sign of adversity.

What an incredible game.

First of all, mad props to the Stanford Cardinal basketball team. Our warriors pull out their WIN OF THE SEASON against one of the best coached team in the nation. We wish them best of luck rest of the season.

Going back to us - OUR WARRIORS - for those of you who have been on this little online bar, did you have any doubt? We didn't (discounting chicken little, bandwagoning, infrequent commenters who only show up to whine and bitch when things aren't going too well).

Ben Ball warriors clinch the Pac-10 by beating the Trees in a heart stopping over time game. The final score 77-67. Here is the early box score.

It was a frustrating night at first. Our offense wasn't in sync. But Love was keeping us in the game:

Photo Credit:AP Photo/Kevork Djansezian (via ESPN)

When we made a run in the second half, Stanford kept answering every one of runs. And we were missing FTs, layups, dunks, when we had our opportunities to take control of the game.

Yet despite all of that adversity DC, RW, LRMAM, KL, and JS scratched, clawed their way into a tie at the end of regulation before taking control in OT. It was once again our lock down defense that ignited another incredible comeback.

So congratulations to Coach Howland and his 2007-08 team for winning their 3rd straight regular season Pac-10 championship. If I have my info. right (off the top of my head), I think that's the first time that has taken place since the days of Coach John R. Wooden. Congratulations again Coach Coach Howland.

We will be with OUR WARRIORS every step of the way. Again for those who jumped off the bandwagon in the first half ... don't try to come back on it.

Thread is all yours. We will have lot more tomorrow.

Oh before I say good night ... I LOVE OUR TEAM.

GO BRUINS.

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This Game

Honestly this game felt like a tournement game in all respects. So many little things that molded together (by hustle and heart) to get our boys the win! So sweet!

Go UCLA!

by madmaxucla on Mar 6, 2008 10:39 PM PST reply actions

Freaken Unbelievable

I'm so thankful to the fellow Bruin Alum who decided to sell me his two tickets. I forced my beloved friend who lives in Yorba Linda, to drive all the way down to my place in the Marina to go to the game with me. He kept telling me the whole rest of the night how thankful he was that I "MADE" him come. Otherwise, he would have missed a truly epic game. It was purely karma. Everything was just rightfully aligned. I got the tickets at the last second. My friend decided to come, afterall, at the last second. We even won at the last second.

The last UCLA games I saw in person, that I thought were equally exciting, where the Washington game in 2005, when we came back from being down like 26 in the second half to win by 9 and the Gonzaga game in the Tourney the following year. Unbelievable.

I even hung out way late and took pictures with Coach Howland, Russell, Lorenzo, Josh, K Love, and Luc. I even got K Love and Luc to sign my Jersey.

Like I said, "Truly Epic."

How can I upload some of those pics here? I think I even saw the Ukuhlele, or however you spell it, dude there.

by BruinFaithful on Mar 7, 2008 3:46 AM PST up reply actions

Great Call...

Bodies Banged solidly at the mid-section and legs. Good Call IMHO. PLUS Bruins covered the amazing spread.

THRILLING!

by class1984 on Mar 6, 2008 10:39 PM PST reply actions

Couldn't watch the game on TV

But holy crap, I was still stressing out by keeping track of the score online and reading the game thread.

by JWongUCLA on Mar 6, 2008 10:40 PM PST reply actions

And again...

I think they could have called a charge on the play before it when they took the lead. Take both those plays away, still tied, still O.T. IMO

Go UCLA!

by madmaxucla on Mar 6, 2008 10:41 PM PST reply actions

A Great Game

That will go a long ways towards helping us in the tourney.

by haster123 on Mar 6, 2008 10:42 PM PST reply actions

Second best win of the Howland era!

Right after the Gonzaga win. This was the very definition of a grind out game and a signature CBH comeback win. Amazing!

by Lakers Bruins Fanatic on Mar 6, 2008 10:43 PM PST reply actions

Kansas last year was bigger.

by mr havercamp on Mar 7, 2008 2:45 AM PST up reply actions

I meant come from behind, last minute showdowns.

Technically, Memphis and LSU wins were bigger, but I was looking more at Michigan St. and Gonzaga type games.

CBH: 3 straight PAC-10 titles, most since CJW!

by Lakers Bruins Fanatic on Mar 7, 2008 4:03 AM PST up reply actions

Preview of Staples?

These two teams are head and shoulders above the rest of the league, including WSU and the cross-town thugs. Anything can happen in the earlier rounds, but it would not be a surprise to see a rematch next weekend. Could be another epic battle.

Hopefully, next time we can get some real announcers, who aren't circling what Stanford should do and praising to the high heavens simple Mitch Johnson bounce passes.

by islandbruin on Mar 6, 2008 10:43 PM PST reply actions

We won't make it to the finals.

Ben would rather rest than win the Pac 10 tourney now that we have rhe Number 1 seed in the West.

by mr havercamp on Mar 7, 2008 2:47 AM PST up reply actions

From pissed off to pumping fists in the air...

... I wasn't happy with our guys -- read my vitriol in the game thread, but I wanted tos ee us play smart, focused, aggressive ball again.

And that's what our guys did.

You CAN have faith and still be frustrated at what you see.

Just don't give up. Coach Howland doesn't. Why should we?

Excellent improvement by our team int eh 2nd half. What started out as a shadow of a Florida loss turned into shades of a Gonzaga comeback.

Gradually increasing pressure on D... at halfcourt... then 3/4 court... then fullcourt in the final minute!

RW shaking off a possible ankle roll (praying for good health now!) to give defensive pressure and clutch scoring.

DC shaking off hesitation and Furd defenders to carry the scoring load.

KL diving, leaping, stretching, pushing, batlting for every desperate rebound and tip-in.

Luc playing tight, in your-jersey D and taking every angle for rebounds.

Josh, even when not scoring, still driving, probing, trying to make things happen.

Aboya and LMR, doing what they do -- fighting for every rebound, shuffling and hustling and hedging every screen and roll, stepping in front of every player on a drive, cleaning up the messes.

Don't let up, Bruins.

DON'T LET UP.

Good job. Next hurdle...

"In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008

by Meriones on Mar 6, 2008 10:44 PM PST reply actions

Tourney

This means UCLA will face the Washington/Cal winner. Could be repeat of last year, although I would love to get some payback vs. UDumb.

by Lakers Bruins Fanatic on Mar 6, 2008 10:45 PM PST reply actions

Seedings?

Are the seedings that set already? I thought the lower seeds had some movement possible. Plus the play-in games might have an effect. You NEVER know in the Pac-10 Tourney.

Class of 2006 Fan Since 1971

by wildwill on Mar 6, 2008 10:53 PM PST up reply actions

Here's the situation for now:

Pacific-10 Conference
*UCLA 15-2
*Stanford 13-4
*Washington State 10-7
USC 9-10
Arizona State 8-9
Arizona 8-9
Oregon 8-9
Washington 7-10
California 6-11
*Oregon State 0-17

*Seeding set

by Lakers Bruins Fanatic on Mar 6, 2008 10:57 PM PST up reply actions

Apologize... corrected seedings

Pacific-10 Conference
*UCLA 15-2
*Stanford 13-4
Washington State 10-7
USC 10-7
Arizona State 8-9
Arizona 8-9
Oregon 8-9
Washington 7-10
California 6-11
*Oregon State 0-17

by Lakers Bruins Fanatic on Mar 6, 2008 10:58 PM PST up reply actions

I see what you mean now.

The Bruins would play the winner of the 8/9 play in game.

Class of 2006 Fan Since 1971

by wildwill on Mar 6, 2008 11:04 PM PST up reply actions

depends on tiebreakers

If UW beats WSU, they would tie with the Arizona/Oregon loser for the 8th seed (as would ASU, if they somehow lost to the beavers). Don't know how the tiebreaker concerning those teams shakes out.

by bruinhoo on Mar 6, 2008 11:24 PM PST up reply actions

CONGRATS TO OUR PAC 10 CHAMPIONS

You guys should see the meltdown on other boards, all the pathetic opposing fans trying to use the red herring to distract from the charge drawn by KLove that wasn't called and the fact that Furd folded like a cheap tent in OT. It's so Effin Classic.

I can't wait for Tele to give us the replay of that call, because obviously these tards didn't see that DC's elbow was hit TWICE and there was body contact to boot. The replay will end the discussion beyond all doubt.

by Tydides on Mar 6, 2008 10:46 PM PST reply actions

Body Contact

I am not quite sure why these announcers have no idea what body contact is. Your average local NBA announcer would know why that was called automatically. Yea he got all ball with his hand, he also got hip.

That said, I am surprised the stripes had the guts to call it like it is in the last minute. Given how physical the game was, I was expecting them to swallow their whistle.

by kidro2001 on Mar 6, 2008 11:01 PM PST up reply actions

Body contact

Agreed. When the ref made the call, he clearly indicated that he was making it due to body contact at the hips. The ref did that whole pelvic-thrust thing as he was calling the foul. A shame that the announcers either didn't notice this or chose to ignore it.

by EphsandBruins on Mar 7, 2008 6:50 AM PST up reply actions

Jack Nicholson a Bruin fan!

Love it! Bruins and Lakers are dominating again!

by Lakers Bruins Fanatic on Mar 6, 2008 10:47 PM PST reply actions

Yeah but...

He's also a Hilary fan.

by Dodger Hater on Mar 6, 2008 10:58 PM PST up reply actions

Yeah but...

My opinion of him went up even more.

by Bruins100NCAA on Mar 7, 2008 2:53 AM PST up reply actions

Seriously...

what's up with the nagging press hounding the Cardinals?

by lildre on Mar 6, 2008 10:48 PM PST reply actions

Josh needs...

... to keep practice shooting like crazy. I don't like his body language on the court after a few misses. Dude gets deflated... plays d with his hands way down. Josh will be sooooooooooo needed in the tournament. We need that dude CONFIDENT, even if he ain't hittin.

I hope he gets his stroke back, and more importantly, gets his head up! Josh, we need you!

by class1984 on Mar 6, 2008 10:49 PM PST reply actions

shipp

needs to go. a couple of games is a "funk". what he's doing (or not doing) now calls for some more bench time.

by bruinbunz on Mar 6, 2008 11:03 PM PST up reply actions

bench time for all our g-men

I would not punish Shipp, DC and RW with bench time. Let's reward them. Get them so REST. It is clear all 3 need it.

They all played over 40 minutes last night

Go Team Go!

by bruins grad and dad on Mar 7, 2008 12:20 PM PST up reply actions

Luc Richard's boards

Money!!!

The PRINCE proves, once again, that he's the Most Important Player on the squad, out-hustling Robin Lopez, KL, and only two short of Brook Lopez' 13!

by rickdean on Mar 6, 2008 10:49 PM PST reply actions

Wow!

Yeah, the first half felt like the two Florida games but what a great comeback like we did against the Zags!

But why do we keep digging ourselves into a hole against great teams? We kept clawing our way back to only 7 points down, then got shut down again and again.

Anyways, CONGRATULATIONS TO OUR TEAM!!! Let's keep it up and wrap up the regular season on Sat with a win against Cal for LMR's last home game as a Bruin!

by mark the bruin on Mar 6, 2008 10:50 PM PST reply actions

Stanford Interviews on the post-game show

Is it me, or did the coach and Lopez just NOT want to answer questions after the game? Not that I blamed them mind you, I'd be completely pissed off after losing that type of game, but come on guys, suck it up and show a bit MORE class (what they did say was complimentary towards the Bruins, but come on!)

Class of 2006 Fan Since 1971

by wildwill on Mar 6, 2008 10:52 PM PST reply actions

The Lopez bros stayed behind an awful long time

Signing autographs, taking pictures down around the court after the game. Didn't see those interviews, but they didn't seem so bad afterwards.

by jaffa on Mar 6, 2008 11:37 PM PST up reply actions

I'd cut them some slack

It was a heartbreaking way to lose a game. I've heard nothing but great things about the Lopez brothers and nothing I saw tonight changed that for me.

by Tydides on Mar 6, 2008 11:41 PM PST up reply actions

I hate Stanford (possibly not)..

Firstly, while not at the game, I was impressed by the number of times shown on the telecast where the Stanford players would help UCLA players up. We're not talking any of those slick, over-cool, hip perfunctory moves, but body language that portrayed a genuine concern and sportsmanship.

Second, I guess the two wins this year (particularly last night's amazing come-back) go a long way towards erasing the bitter memory of that Sunday night 15-point fade last year.

As others have said, it must have been tough to swallow this defeat; if it is true that the Lopez twins stayed around and signed autographs, etc. then that speaks volumes about what gentlemen they really are.

gratuitous dig: how they got that way, with their carping mom, is beyond me.

..o.k., o.k. I know.

God, it's great to be a Bruin!

by whp68 on Mar 7, 2008 6:54 AM PST up reply actions

Yes they hung around and signed autographs

And the Bruin crowd waiting to hear Howland interviewed on radio gave them positive acknowledgement

Go Team Go!

by bruins grad and dad on Mar 7, 2008 12:23 PM PST up reply actions

phew

that's the most nervous and hype i've been watching my bruins play since the gonzaga tourney game a couple years ago. a pair of exhausted hands from excessively cracked knuckles, a broken chair, and a twisted ankle from jumping out of my chair at the sight of the 4-point play later, i can relax finally.

go bruins.

by deepdish on Mar 6, 2008 10:53 PM PST reply actions

I believe

they said this is the first time since Coach Wooden that a team has won the Pac-10 three years in a row.

Savor it everyone! Savor it.

by trainwreck84 on Mar 6, 2008 10:55 PM PST reply actions

but they're wrong

We won 3 straight from 95-97. Perhaps they said that Howland was the 1st coach to do it since Wooden.That would be correct because we had two different coaches from 95-97.

by BruinsRule on Mar 7, 2008 12:43 AM PST up reply actions

Same Coach Winning 3 in a Row

On TV they said 1st time the same coach won 3 titles in a row since Wooden.

by mizzou on Mar 7, 2008 5:31 AM PST up reply actions

Too drunk to be writing

but I'll do it any way; I just got back from Brew Co, after 8 beers I can say without a doubt this was one of the greatest games I've seen as a Bruin, well , out side of the Arizona 04, Gonzaga, LSU '05 and the Kansas '06 games that I saw. So happy, I'm beyond words.

Victory or until next year!

by ncrpz2 on Mar 6, 2008 10:57 PM PST reply actions

awesome

what a great game! go bruins!

by sfatoo on Mar 6, 2008 10:57 PM PST reply actions

the foul at the end of regulation?

How in the world do people didn't see that collison was hit on the forearm going up to the basket by the defender's left hand??? it was obvious!!! I hope the world doesn't take anything away from this game because of that "good" call. Someone needed to bring that to the attention but no one really ever did during the game. It's just too bad. Cardinals will be crying foul for a very LONG time

by burculian on Mar 6, 2008 10:57 PM PST reply actions

if they call foul for a long time

it will show a lack of class.

Let's hope they do it!!!

by bruinofthenorth on Mar 6, 2008 11:28 PM PST up reply actions

DC fouled with 2.5 seconds

Notice in this video the ref in the right bottom of the picture. He is signaling the foul as a hit down-low with the body. The announcers kept talking about the block being clean. That's not why the foul was called. The defensive player pushed into DC with his body, advantage-gained in the opinion of the ref.

Tough game as expected between the #1 and #2 in the conference. UCLA showed character to come back from behind to an excellent team. Hopefully, the Bruins will get it together and not get behind during tournament play. But this experience just teaches then to never say die and that with hustle and tough defense, you're never out of it as long as there is time on the clock.

previously known as Grok451

by Telemachus on Mar 6, 2008 10:58 PM PST reply actions

EXACTLY!

thanks.

by class1984 on Mar 6, 2008 11:02 PM PST up reply actions

There He is

The man himself. There are so many haters out there crying foul. It's clear none of them have taken a look at the video, nor will they, because they want to be willfully ignorant and believe that Furd was "robbed".

Seriously, the video says it all, and the truth is on our side. Celebrate this one Bruins, and let the willfully ignorant haters figure out for themselves out to unclench their rectums.

by Tydides on Mar 6, 2008 11:03 PM PST up reply actions

*how to unclench their rectums

by Tydides on Mar 6, 2008 11:04 PM PST up reply actions

they lost

not because of any single whistle, but because of a TEN point margin.

by bruinofthenorth on Mar 6, 2008 11:30 PM PST up reply actions

yeah he had him on the body

but still pretty questionable call at best, imagine if it was the other way.

perhaps a make-up for not calling a charge on hill on the other end.

by stephons on Mar 6, 2008 11:13 PM PST up reply actions

Was it a foul?

Yes. Do they usually call it in that situation? No.

But who cares? Scoreboard. You could point to any number of bad calls thoughout the course of any game. You hope it evens out. Crying about a bad call is a sign of a loser.

by UCLAMD89 on Mar 6, 2008 11:40 PM PST up reply actions

that's right

they had a chance in OT to show us they deserved to win.

by bruinofthenorth on Mar 7, 2008 12:07 AM PST up reply actions

couple thoughts

who doubted that ucla would stage a serious comeback. i felt it would happen personally didn't know if it would result in a win though.

why didn't trent johnson put back in robin lopez? i though furd outplayed us when both were in.

i'm not sure about the foul on dc with 2 secs. but it looked like a charge on the other end. didn't check out the body contact mentioned by others. to me it looked like he might have touched dc's elbow with the left hand before a clean block with the right. it was really questionable, but who knows we might have hit a shot with an out of bounds play.

great comeback, as usual from this team.

congrats to stanford. if they can keep both lopez bros in they'll be tough to be in either pac ten or ncaa tournament. i hope the ncaa selection committee gives them a favorable seed.

by stephons on Mar 6, 2008 10:59 PM PST reply actions

I think they're a 2 seed

but ship them out to UNC's bracket.

by UCLAMD89 on Mar 6, 2008 11:08 PM PST up reply actions

Shipp played some clutch D down the stretch

If you watch the end of the game, you will see that Shipp's pressure on the guards (not to mention Collison's) prevented some easy passes down low.

Plus, I like how Shipp wanted the ball at the end to be fouled. Sure he missed the first free throw, but he is a leader on this team and I liked how he wanted the ball.

by Dienekes on Mar 6, 2008 10:59 PM PST reply actions

Take care of Cal

No letdown against the Bears. Still want the #1 seed, and need some mo going into the tourneys. My dream matchup would be first round, UW. Aboya goes for a double double as payback to cheap shot Morris. Second round. USC. Always nice to beat the ketchup and mustard. Finals. Stanfurd. Wax them by 20 and everyone will forget the foul at the end of this one. We are pac10 champs. They folded in the last two minutes, foul or no foul at either end of the court.

by popopapa on Mar 6, 2008 11:04 PM PST reply actions

Yep!

..as everyone knows, a college roundball game is 45 minutes long and you gotta play all 45 of 'em.

God, it's great to be a Bruin!

by whp68 on Mar 7, 2008 7:00 AM PST up reply actions

When i said our guys

wouldn't let us lose...i never thought it would be like this...I mean DC RW Klove all were so clutch down the stretch with those free throws i dont get it i just dont
my heart was jumping out of my neck...but DC was a man he was a man out there tonight...i mean lets not forget that drive and dish to luc for the first points of over time, wow

theres so many people that im not given the due respect right now, luc battling late on the twins klove with those two tips so huge, rw getting penetration and hustling big time on thoe double teams

O.A.

by Ollie on Mar 6, 2008 11:07 PM PST reply actions

Hey Ollie,

As I was sitting here helplessly screaming at my laptop, your SOB blasts at the TV announcers were freakin' hilarious, and reminded me to breathe every now and then. Hope Nestor doesn't come down too hard on you!

greg in denver

by gbruin on Mar 6, 2008 11:20 PM PST up reply actions

i know its bad

i try too not to throw out too much foul language...but im sitting in there my dad and I are so emotional im trying not to scream and kick a wall in id have to just come in here and vent...

but seriously thats not just all emotion that was a joke i might as well been watching this thing in san jose..i cant stand those hack jobs

i know come game time i let that hooliganism get the best of me but im trying im trying

O.A.

by Ollie on Mar 6, 2008 11:38 PM PST up reply actions

No worries

I'm the same way. I understand the passion and devotion. And it's good for me to see it from others, to help rein myself in a little bit. But you're doing fine. We need all our fans to care that much.

greg in denver

by gbruin on Mar 6, 2008 11:55 PM PST up reply actions

But DC..

Since taking the blame for that washington loss he has raised his game on and off the court, on both ends of the floor, and in the huddles

this MAN has facilitated, made it rain from outside, hustled, played intense D he just made me so happy and proud

The way he has grown and matured since being a gutty little speedster as a freshman to the true leader of this bruin squad has been a joy to see...i know im young and havent seen some of our all time greats

but Darren will always have a special place in my heart

O.A.

by Ollie on Mar 6, 2008 11:10 PM PST reply actions

Tank The Tournament

the first game, get rest, and practice at Pauley. I think we STILL got the #1 seed in the West last year under that scenario. Heck, I'd take a #2 Seed if need be.

I hate the Pac 10 Tourney for any Pac 10 Champ.
We need more rest and private time with Ben more than anything else prior to Madness.

by class1984 on Mar 6, 2008 11:10 PM PST reply actions

We dropped to a 2 seed

with our first round exit. However, our resume was not as impressive last year as it was this year. To ensure the 1 seed, I believe that we need to win one tournament game. I believe either way, we earned the West region. I don't like the tournament either, and I think one option we should consider is playing the first game all out and then resting our starters from that point forward. Use all subs and give them some PT while our starters and especially our guards get some much deserved rest.

by Tydides on Mar 6, 2008 11:13 PM PST up reply actions

Shipp has to shoot

his way out of the slump. He gets so confident when he hits a few and can light it up. He also gets deflated during slumps though. The kid can play, keep shooting in practice.

DC is unbelievable. I was concerned awhile back that the injury would affect his game for the rest of the season. He can go off and he should be the key to making things happen on the offensive end. His confidence is running high. Just an unbelievable comback, what an emotional game. This has to be a huge lift as they gear up for conference play.

by Bruins095 on Mar 6, 2008 11:12 PM PST reply actions

I honestly don't understand

Why all the dissing of people who just want their team to play better?

It is much more irritating to me to listen to people who say lame things like "have faith" as if any internal feeling of the people WATCHING the game has any impact on what happens on the court.

Yeah, my team can't throw a pea in the ocean (or make wide open dunks), but if we just "have faith" and stop being such whiners, everything will be A-OK!

I sure the heck Howland is recruiting some shooters!

The facts are we have a team that can't shoot worth crap. This game wasn't an abberation, "one of those days" or anything like that; we flat out can't put the ball in the hole.

Now usually our superior rebounding and turnover differential will make up for our brickmanship, but we can't outrebound everybody as evidenced by tonight's game.

But I didn't post this to analyze the game or our weaknesses.

I am questioning the mindless, uncritical analysis and empty platitudes that pass for commentary whenever someone points out that the emporer isn't wearing any clothes.

I admire this board for the basketball knowledge, devotion, and unwavering committment to excellence as evidenced by our non-acceptance of the likes of Dorrell and Lavin.

When people complain that we are falling short in some area, why do others have to shout them down and lable them bandwagoners, fair-weathered, etc?

To me it incredibly silly that the people who notice a problem are mocked. Isn't realization of those problems the first step to fixing them?

Certainly "having faith" isn't going to do any good.

by Dodger Hater on Mar 6, 2008 11:20 PM PST reply actions

I tell people to have faith...

... and I'll tell you, I was thoroughly pissed off in the first half. Check my rant in the game thread.

What bugs me is when people say we're going to lose... and it's not even halftime. Not, "we're going to lose if we don't get more rebounds, " or "we're going to lose if we don't make our throws." i can lvie with that.

I mean people who say, "we're going out in the first round," "we're going to lose by 30, " or "we're getting a #5 seed."

Having a little faith, especially during a tense game, keeps this place from turning into nothing but griping and arguing amongst ourselves.

Faith and analysis can go hand in hand.

"In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008

by Meriones on Mar 6, 2008 11:28 PM PST up reply actions

Exactly

I have no patience for wannabe fortune tellers who throw perspective out the window to make some reactionary tantrum post. I was upset in the first half too. How could you not be? But how could anyone give up on not only this game, but future games against unknown opponents? Even had we lost tonight, we would still have the same issues, and we'd still have a shot at a title split, but I guarantee there would be a whole lot of "FIRST ROUND EXIT" posts despite the fact that such a loss would have been to the #7 team in the country. That's the reactionary crap that we try to avoid here on BN because it is based in fantasy and not reality. People come here to get away from the generic message board mentality and keeping reactionary feelings out of analysis is, over time, the most accurate analysis. That's what we strive for, not just in BBall, but in everything.

by Tydides on Mar 6, 2008 11:35 PM PST up reply actions

Uhm

There is a huge difference between people who offer reasoned and balanced analysis on how our team can play better v. infrequent posters who only show up when things are going bad and use one half of performance to predict doom and gloom for rest of the game and the season.

And if you want to insult the content here as mindless, uncritical analysis without taking into account the body of work from last three years then don't come back here.

Lastly, if you attack any of the moderators here you will be gone. Consider that as a warning.

by Nestor on Mar 7, 2008 4:32 AM PST up reply actions

Frustration: yes. Whining: no.

I imagine every Bruin fan was frustrated in the first half. However, it can get annoying when frustration turns into a sense of entitlement. These are college kids representing their and our school.

Expressing frustration, anger, etc. can be useful on an open forum, but the moderators here at BN have every right to say they don't want to see posts that go over board. I see no problem with the philosophy.

by Dienekes on Mar 7, 2008 5:16 AM PST up reply actions

as expected

SC fans are already using that call at the end of regulation to make their point and validate their conspiracy theory

by deepdish on Mar 6, 2008 11:20 PM PST reply actions

Yeah sure

7 conference loss SUC has some reason to complain about "conspiracies". If only a couple dozen calls over the course of the season had gone their way maybe they'd only be a 6 loss team! DAMN THOSE REFS!!

by Tydides on Mar 6, 2008 11:23 PM PST up reply actions

that's because

they are losers.

winners don't spend time thinking about conspiracies.

by bruinofthenorth on Mar 6, 2008 11:40 PM PST up reply actions

DC kept us in the game also...

i think DC deserves some props in this post as well, not just Kevin Love. Love was great, doing little things even if he wasn't scoring on the low block, but DC took over in the second half.

by snksbruin on Mar 6, 2008 11:21 PM PST reply actions

Huge props!

Westbrook too. Shipp was off and people needed to step up bigtime.

CBH: 3 straight PAC-10 titles, most since CJW!

by Lakers Bruins Fanatic on Mar 6, 2008 11:23 PM PST up reply actions

RW's putback

of LRMAM's FT miss completed a four pt. play and basically saved the game. Watching Tele's clips reminded me we were down 5 under 1:00. Also had the clutch FTs himself.

by UCLAMD89 on Mar 6, 2008 11:51 PM PST up reply actions

Pauley was fun tonight

45 points in the second half, Collison was phenomenal, Pauley was in sync, rockin'. What a great game and win. Congrats to our Bruins, Howland and coaches and fans!

by bruin95 on Mar 6, 2008 11:21 PM PST reply actions

Collison...

... played like a Tyus Edney Senior!

Thanks, Darren. We woulda got blown out this game if it wasn't for you CREATING!

by class1984 on Mar 6, 2008 11:24 PM PST reply actions

ESPN got it right.

ESPN announcer gave clear indication that there was BODY contact and did not mention anything about the call being wrong. ONe of very few times I enjoyed ESPN

by burculian on Mar 6, 2008 11:29 PM PST reply actions

Where do you rank Stanford?

It's typical for a team to drop in the rankings after a loss. But don't you think that after going on the road and taking the number 2/3 team to overtime with the conference hanging in the balance, Stanford should actually move UP in the rankings? Gotta give them props for their body of work, and I don't see how tonight's loss and that effort diminshes their resume in any way.

I would love to see the Pac-10 get a #1 and #2 seed in the tourney, but I doubt that the West (Best) Coast will get that sort of latitude. Now, if it were Duke and UNC...

greg in denver

by gbruin on Mar 6, 2008 11:29 PM PST reply actions

#2 if they win USC and a few tournament games

CBH: 3 straight PAC-10 titles, most since CJW!

by Lakers Bruins Fanatic on Mar 6, 2008 11:31 PM PST up reply actions

Stanford is Classy

I saw some very classy moments come from the Stanford team. For instance, there was one play where B. Lopez and Westbrook both dived for a loose ball and Lopez ended up on top of Westbrook, but he asked Westbrook if he was alright when they both got up. Also, I saw the two Lopez(es) help Love up when he was on the ground.

by eflyer on Mar 6, 2008 11:33 PM PST reply actions

I agree

I thought that Stanford, despite playing a very physical game with us, didn't feel the need to let things get out of hand as some of our opponents this season have. I wish the Lopez brothers all the best in the NBA next year, because I think they've got a ton of potential. I would have loved to see them with our four letters across their chests, but hey, you can't win em all...unless you're talking about Pac 10 titles that is!

by Tydides on Mar 6, 2008 11:39 PM PST up reply actions

Are they gone?

Will the Lopez brothers go to the NBA? I thought they were both sophomores and I know one might have the potential but the other is slightly less talented and on the bubble for pro consideration.

Inquiring minds.

God, it's great to be a Bruin!

by whp68 on Mar 7, 2008 7:09 AM PST up reply actions

I would be stunned

if Brook came back. He's widely regarded as a lottery pick by scouts and has nothing left to prove. I think Robin is a first rounder based on potential alone.

by Tydides on Mar 7, 2008 10:17 AM PST up reply actions

That was a great game

I was extremely frustrated for the first 30 minutes of the game. Everytime we'd seem to pull it together, Stanfurd would poke the ball in and score again. It felt so deflating. Literally, I was ready to start crying.

I don't think I've cursed so much while watching a game. It was probably a good thing I wasn't in the game thread today.

I was really anxious that we scored FIRST in OT, because I knew it would set the tone. Good D to start too also helps.

Congrats Bruins on 3 straight Pac 10 Championships! GO BRUINS!

by freesia39 on Mar 6, 2008 11:42 PM PST reply actions

I know what you mean

I posted nothing during the game, because deep down, I thought it was my fault somehow. I hit no threes the whole game, and I was about 2,500 miles from the guy I should have been covering.

But throughout it all, I thought that we had a chance. And when RW's FT hit the rim 34 times and bounced through, I thought we might actually pull it out.

by Fox 71 on Mar 7, 2008 12:02 AM PST up reply actions

yea trent

was gracious in defeat i seeing him after trying to hold back so much disappointment earned him a little respect in my books...but that slime ball johnson...man i just know seriously i dont wanna jinx but look at these last threads whenever someone tries to give us this cheeky attitude (bayless last weak screaming at darren, johnson with a lucky huck of three pointer followed by thuggish scowl)

I just know it...right there that theyve gone to far you cant allow anyone to ever do that to you especially on your own court when i see that playground garbage your done, your gone, were going in for the kill right there
god i love our boys

O.A.

by Ollie on Mar 6, 2008 11:43 PM PST reply actions

Brew Co...

was LOVING LIFE! What a win! Crowd was awesome there, I need to watch more games there!

by jose007 on Mar 6, 2008 11:49 PM PST reply actions

It must have been an awesome experience

being at Pauley tonight. The tension must have been pretty thick.

I am confused sometimes about some being labled bandwagoners or critisized if they express some frustration. Maybe I missed something and didn't read the entire thread. I don't care for trolls or those whose sole purpose is to slam the team at every turn, but I do appreciate a free exchange of thoughts and analysis. I understand why many don't care for continuous negative commments, such as going out in the first round, etc. I love this site for all of the exceptional anaylsis, insight and information. I can't emphasize enough how great it is to engage with other bruins. I'm so harcore, I tend to express my frustration like others. I had faith they could make a game of it and perhapy even win. Expectation are so high, it's hard to see them play like they did in the first half. I just don't want anyone to be concerned about being critical for fear of being labled a bandwagoner, hater, etc. Just my 2 cents.

Awesome game, many great comments. I get so much from analysis on here when I can't see the game on TV. Tournament time is just about here. Baseball team looks great. RN and Chow are making some serious noise. God, it's great to be a Bruin right now.

by Bruins095 on Mar 6, 2008 11:51 PM PST reply actions

Not to you specifically

But here's an example...There is a big difference between saying "Josh Shipp is shooting terribly and we'll lose if he doesn't get it going" and "Josh Shipp is a terrible shooter and we're going to lose" The first is a reasonable criticism, and the second is just being pissy and a quitter. I think that's where some people are, rightly, calling out the bandwagoners.

greg in denver

by gbruin on Mar 7, 2008 12:03 AM PST up reply actions

oops

Quote from DC in the SF Chronicle:

"That was a complete block," Collison said. "We were fortunate to get a call on that."

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/03/06/SP0RVEVDT.DTL

by Daynuh33 on Mar 7, 2008 12:06 AM PST reply actions

And they were fortunate

not to get called for charging on KLove on the previous play. I'm sure there were other bad calls throughout the course of the game as well. Pointing to one call, especially one where there was clear contact, as the sole reason you lose is just sour grapes whining.

by Tydides on Mar 7, 2008 12:09 AM PST up reply actions

Classy response by Hill

From the same article:
Television commentators for the game questioned the call and the timing of it. Not Hill.

"No, if I fouled him, I fouled him," he said.

That's a really stand-up response from Hill. Lots of us see how he clearly got DC on the body. Telemachus has posted some nice video clips that show exactly that.

greg in denver

by gbruin on Mar 7, 2008 12:18 AM PST up reply actions

I understand gbruin

and do see what you are saying. I'll have to re-read some of the thread. I saw some of the comments about getting off the site and was a little confused unless the posters were trying to piss people off.

by Bruins095 on Mar 7, 2008 12:07 AM PST reply actions

We had some calls go against us

then we got the call at the end of regulation. As I always say, in the end it evens out. I loved that we got an overtime though. It just felt right that the game continued and that both teams got a chance to win it again. 5 minutes, 2 teams, all evened up...only one winner.

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Mar 7, 2008 12:15 AM PST reply actions

Also

let's remember that in all likelihood, Stanford will also be playing their 1st and 2nd round in Anaheim. For whoever is there to watch the games, cheer for our Bruins, but also our Pac 10 brothers. They're a hell of a team and a classy bunch of guys.

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Mar 7, 2008 12:16 AM PST reply actions

I don't think that'll be a problem

I remember seeing shots of the WSU band helping us out when we were in Sacramento. Must have been even harder for them since their team went down before our game too. I have no problem rooting for the Pac when it comes to Tournament time, especially considering Stanford has been a great conference rival this season both in skill and sportsmanship. Every conference circles the wagons. The exception, of course, is SUC. Those A-holes are on their own.

by Tydides on Mar 7, 2008 12:29 AM PST up reply actions

Would probably add

Oregon to that list too ;-)

"I just think, at the end of the day, UCLA is not a great job." Brian D'Oh!n, 12/07

by godblesstyus95 on Mar 7, 2008 8:27 AM PST up reply actions

Wait

I thought we were talking about teams that were making the tournament, not the NIT. Okay, that's a low blow, but it seems like Karma that the Pit Stain Crew after their horrific actions this season, will get to watch their hideous uniforms in the NIT this year.

by Tydides on Mar 7, 2008 10:19 AM PST up reply actions

I'd also add UW

with that cheap shot on AA2

by UCLAMD89 on Mar 7, 2008 11:38 PM PST up reply actions

Good to see

I couldn't stand those guys under Montgomery. I'll probably be at the first round in Anaheim, you can usually feel the love for other Pac-10 teams. I would rather not see bruins play Stanford again though. Well coached team with talent. They could make a serious run.

by Bruins095 on Mar 7, 2008 12:22 AM PST reply actions

Wow!

My buddy and me were at the game. The last time we were at a game together was the 'SC game. He was not feeling it then and we lost - he told me he was having the same sensation this game. OUR WARRIORS proved him wrong.

Best game of the season.

That free throw by RW that bounced high off the rim was the scariest moment for me. How that went in, I don't know. If there's a game this season - given we win it all - that I could look back and say that was the game that made us champions, this was it.

The building was absolute mayhem. Never heard a louder game this season.

by UCLAngels on Mar 7, 2008 12:22 AM PST reply actions

wasn't there tonight

i was arizona and oregon and those some pretty spectacular crowd energies if you will...ill never forget halftime of the arizona game...we are ready to take back football...but lets not get ahead of ourselves, theres ALOT of basketball and work left to be done

Man sorta off topic but i'm still a little emotional after the game and now watching bret favres retirement speech again on WWL

ups and downs, like the packers or not, he was a special man and human being and great for the game, I'm really happy i got to see him play

I know im coming off like this total manic loon with the dc and now bret favre comments, but im just happy we really worked hard all season for this we accomplished CBH's first goal, so check it off, and lets look forward to to saturday.

boy i cant wait to see LMR we're all gunna miss the guy

O.A.

by Ollie on Mar 7, 2008 12:30 AM PST reply actions

Any word on Westbrook's foot?

I didn't see it, just heard it on radio. I feel like I'm holding my breath every game wondering if bruins can avoid injuries.

by Bruins095 on Mar 7, 2008 12:32 AM PST reply actions

According to Painter

someone came down on his foot (had nothing to do with his ankle) and that it hurt, but he's fine now.

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Mar 7, 2008 12:34 AM PST up reply actions

RW

has come up gingerly on his foot like three different times in the last couple weeks...my heart always drops but then he follows it with a huge dunk or hustle play...so either they're not especially serious or hes just battling and running on the adrenaline.

O.A.

by Ollie on Mar 7, 2008 12:52 AM PST up reply actions

Howland said

that the few times it's happened recently, it has been a sprained ankle. However, tonight it was his foot so this is a different injury.

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Mar 7, 2008 12:55 AM PST up reply actions

27 regular season wins

most in school history. Given the injuries they endured, makes this year even more remarkable.

by Bruins095 on Mar 7, 2008 12:40 AM PST reply actions

Amazing

I was streaming this game on my laptop while in a meeting for research (unbeknownst to my fellow meeting-ers), and boy did I have to put my poker face on (both in the beginning, the end, and the end-end).

Great win by our team after having a bad first half, DC was just amazing -- 3/4 from the arc.

Only thing is the last layup was unnecessary, but I hope Stanford understands that we were all just extremely excited to win the game, and meant no disrespect (e.g. was not a dunk on them).

by dokein on Mar 7, 2008 12:50 AM PST reply actions

Howland's short rotation

The core players must stay healthy and out of foul trouble the rest of the way because Howland's rotation is really short right now. Only 2 players were subbed in for this game. The starters are playing a ton of minutes. Hopefully now that they wrapped up the Pac-10 title Howland can give more minutes to some of the bench players to get them going before the start of the NCAA tournament. It'd be nice to win the Pac-10 tournament to get some momentum going into the NCAA tournament, but staying healthy and getting the bench more playing time is more important.

by UCLA4Life on Mar 7, 2008 1:53 AM PST reply actions

A quote from Donh's story

"That was a block," said Collison, UCLA's point guard. "That was a complete block. We were fortunate to get a foul on that. I heard it was a make-up (call)."

So DC thought it was clean.

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Mar 7, 2008 2:00 AM PST reply actions

the view from 301c

Champions find ways to win tough games and the Bruins are Pac 10 champions again. I had to add my shout out to the Cardinal - a great team with class on the court and class off the court in defeat. I echo Coach Howland's radio comments on post game when he said he hoped the Bruins see Stanford in the Final 4.

by Vanman7475 on Mar 7, 2008 2:20 AM PST reply actions

Salute

to the Cardinals, indeed. They are very disciplined and are sporstmen on the floor. I appreciate the pat on the back from both sides whenever a hard foul was called. Kevin Love did the same tonight.

by UCLAngels on Mar 7, 2008 2:35 AM PST reply actions

Agree

Stanford has some classy kids. It starts from the top. Along with Wash St., they showed the most sportsmanship. (I don't think it is a coincidence they are also two of the top teams in the conference.)

by Dienekes on Mar 7, 2008 5:19 AM PST up reply actions

Bruin Love from Buenos Aires!

My husband and I are in Argentina & Chile on vacation. Of all the games I had to miss, it was this monstrous Stanford game! I gave the tix to my dad and I´m dying to hear from him his thoughts. Buenos Aires is 6 hours ahead of California time, so I fell asleep at about 1:30am and woke up at about 3am to see the dismal halftime score. I then stayed up to follow the game on my BlackBerry. Damn! What a roller coaster! I still can´t believe we won, we won!!! Can´t wait to catch the game on TiVo. Amazing, I just have to laugh at the craziness of it all. Adelante Bruins!!!

by bruininthelbc on Mar 7, 2008 5:27 AM PST reply actions

The Foul

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQucR0hGSV8

Body Contact. Clean block, but body contact. Look at the ref's call.

by Bruin in Denver on Mar 7, 2008 7:04 AM PST reply actions

Also

Right before the block, look at Hill's left hand slapping DC's elbow. IMO, it's a call that could have gone either way, so we're fortunate that they called it. The question is not whether it was a foul, because technically, it was. The question is more about whether the refs would call such a foul. I would say that's 50/50, so we're a bit lucky. But we weren't lucky in OT, we pulled it out and it wasn't close.

by tasser10 on Mar 7, 2008 10:12 AM PST up reply actions

Good Teams

...can't win games like this. It takes a GREAT one to do what our warriors did last night.

I wasn't following the thread in the bar, but I can imagine what that must have been like. For the record, I was freaking out, but I never lost the faith...there was just something in our players' faces that said they were NOT going to lose this game. And, of course, Collison refused to let them.

After I was done getting hit with the defibrillator, I couldn't get to sleep for hours.

Cards, you are classy. I'm Proud you're in the Pac-10.

DC, RW, and all of you...THANK YOU FOR ONE OF THE GREATEST DAMNED GAMES OF ALL TIME!!

Love My Bruins

by Bruingirl83 on Mar 7, 2008 8:25 AM PST reply actions

I know that

I am joining the posting party late but...WOW, that game was freakin awesome. Stanford was game - no doubt, but the fight in this team (and all of Howland's teams) is unbelievable.

I think I suffered from a mild heart attack when Russell shot his 1st FT at the end of the game. One other thought I had after the game - a few more second halfs/games like that during the remaining tourneys and we will no doubt be losing all three (KL, DC, and RW) to the NBA.

by gorams77 on Mar 7, 2008 2:59 PM PST reply actions