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Sunday Night Open Thread In Howlandwood

Well Coach Howland and his warriors (except for LRMAM who is staying in San Antonio an extra evening to spend time with the rents) are heading home tonight:



Here is a request to all of our students on campus and alums around LA who may run into our coaches and our boys" tell them on behalf of us how proud we all are of our basketball program, and how grateful we are for another wonderful season.

We will make this a special Sunday night open thread. If you still need to commiserate with other Bruins this is place for you. Get it all out of your system. Starting tomorrow we are going to slowly pivot into football, delve in off season hoops issues, pay closer attention to baseball, and move on.

Don't forget we have the number 1 recruiting class coming in next year and Coach Howland already has a good start on the following year's with Reeves Nelson. Fun will never stop in Howlandwood, aka Bruins Nation.

GO BRUINS.

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Cool sign
Look forward to visiting next year.  

by brewin05 on Apr 6, 2008 7:07 PM PDT   0 recs

I like the Sign
I really wish I would have thought about going to the airport to support our team upon their arrival.  I was just so down that it skipped my mind.  I think they deserve our support after the season they put together.  Was anyone able to make it out there for their return?  

Also, there are so many people in the media trying to tell anyone who will listen that after this year, UCLA will not make it to another Final 4 in 10 years.  Have they already forgotten that just two years ago UCLA made it to the Championship game with far less talent than any of the teams we faced from the sweet 16 and on?  Ditto for the next year when we made it to the Final Four.  Do they not know what Howland can bring out in the players that he recruits?  In the last 2 years (not this year of course), we had no offense coming from the center position and we still made it as far as the Final Four.  There I said it.  

by bruin8uclap on Apr 6, 2008 7:50 PM PDT   0 recs

Much love
I graduated in 2005. So my 4 years of basketball consisted of my freshman year with Kapono, Barnes, and Gadzuric not living up to their potential but upsetting Cincy only to lose in the Sweet 16, a horrendous sophomore year where firelavin.com was in full effect, my junior year with Howland coming on board but having to take control of a very bad Lavin team and seeing Ariza skip out after his freshman year, and finally, my senior year where even after a 1st round NCAA tournament loss, you could tell this program was on the rise with Farmar, Afflalo, Shipp, and Mata bringing back UCLA to the forefront of college b-ball.

Don't get me wrong, I LOVE UCLA football, but I remember my first time walking into Pauley as a freshman and seeing my first game and that was when my obsession with college hoops was born. I was close to tears last night in an NYC bar that was dominated by the NYC Bruins. But at the same time I realize how extremely lucky I am right now to see UCLA into what I am calling its 2nd Golden Years.

It's time to turn the page on the 2007-2008 year. I consider myself extremely fortunate to be able to watch Mr. Love play and if this was indeed his first and final year with us, hopefully he realizes how much excitement he brought to all of us this year. As for RW and DC, they are the epitome of what this site has coined as "Ben Ball Warriors." And thank you Lorenzo. I was fortunate enough to see you play when you came in as a freshman as I was on my out and I am that much luckier for it.

I'm taking a little break from college sports. I have my Dodgers and Lakers to keep me busy right now. UCLA football and basketball back-to-back is incredibly draining, but I will look forward to August when you can smell the grass of the Rose Bowl once again and when September brings about a new found optimism with UCLA Football.

GO BRUINS!

by SmrtGuy82 on Apr 6, 2008 7:57 PM PDT   0 recs

..not a segment, but a continuum..
..Graduating from UCLA is somewhat like becoming a Marine. You are a Bruin and heir to all of its distinction -- athletics and academic. Just as it is unfair to exclude us old geezers from the successful teams that Ben Howland is now forging, it is impertinent to deny you your heritage.

You are -- by extension -- part of John Wooden's incredible reign over college basketball, you inherit the joy we all felt at hanging the first 10 banners; the excitement we experienced in 1995, and the satisfaction from following a program restored to national prominence that will once again crowd the rafters of Pauley.

Think about it. Next season you will sit in some NYC bar and ask the inn keeper to turn on UCLA-Oregon or UCLA-ASU during the regular season.  A lot of people might grumble but they will know that you root for a team that has been the foundation -- the basis -- for college basketball's success since the 60s.

So, you might have suffered through the Wet Head's nadir, but you were and will be always along side of all of us sharing the traditions, past successes, hopes for the future, and the boundless excitement that is UCLA Basketball.

(Man! Did I really say inn keeper?)

God, it's great to be a Bruin!

by whp68 on Apr 6, 2008 8:54 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Cheers
from another 05 graduate to the other!

WOW, we went to school during a bad era, didn't we?  No wonder I studied so much...

by brewin05 on Apr 6, 2008 9:37 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

graduated in 2005 as well
Terrible era for UCLA sports. Just terrible.

by njbruin on Apr 7, 2008 6:58 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Worst case scenario
(Love, Westbrook and Collison all leave for the NBA):

08/09 Projected starting 5:

G-Jrue Holiday
G-Malcolm Lee
G/F-Josh Shipp
F-Luc Richard Mbah a Moute
F-Alfred Aboya

Key reserves:
G- Michael Roll
G-Jerime Anderson
G-Chace Stanback
G/F-Nikola Dragovic
F-James Keefe
F-Drew Gordon

And that's worst case scenario. Not too bad.

"You don't make it to the Final Four three straight times for no reason..Obviously coaching has something to do with it." Darren Collison

by godblesstyus95 on Apr 6, 2008 8:44 PM PDT   0 recs

Next year will be a down year
That team should still be the favorite to win the conference.

by SuperBruinMan on Apr 6, 2008 9:29 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Actually, worst case scenario...
... is Aboya deciding to graduate, go back home, and leave a year of eligiblity on the board.

If the only bigs we'd have would be Gordon, Keefe, LMRAM and Drago, next year would be ROUGH.

M

"In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008

by Meriones on Apr 7, 2008 8:29 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Looks like a pretty good lineup to me
LRMAM is going to have that soft jumper by next season to go with his monster rebounding abilities, Keefe will be up to full strength and who knows how much the other two will improve.

by Chandler on Apr 7, 2008 1:59 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

LRMAM
I hope you're right, but we thought he was going to have that "soft jumper" this season.  Remember all the talk this last offseason about how much his midrange game had improved?

by bornagainbruin on Apr 9, 2008 12:23 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Agreed
actually I wouldn't put Drago in the "big" category, that leaves only 3. There's no way we can go into next season with only 3 big men on the depth chart, all of whom have had some injury issues at some point in their careers. BH would have to recruit someone and bring him in as a last minute signee, a la Westbrook 2 years ago.

In fact, I hope BH has someone in mind right now. The fact AA2 is even thinking of leaving would make me question his commitment to basketball.

"You don't make it to the Final Four three straight times for no reason..Obviously coaching has something to do with it." Darren Collison

by godblesstyus95 on Apr 7, 2008 4:02 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

thats an awesome sign
when was that posted? and shoot i wish I had thought about greeting the fellas at the airport too..when did they get back? was anyone there?
O.A.

by Ollie on Apr 6, 2008 9:33 PM PDT   0 recs

2 years ago?
I believe that was up two years ago when UCLA made it to the Final Four.

by scottbruin on Apr 7, 2008 3:19 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

What I was thinking was that
if somehow we can find out when they will be arriving on campus we could do something much like the send-off (but in reverse). We can welcome home them with applause and praise, acknowledging a remarkable season. I think something like that would bring a smile to their faces.

by lolwtferic on Apr 6, 2008 9:38 PM PDT   0 recs

woops
didn't see that bruin8clap posted a similar idea :).

by lolwtferic on Apr 6, 2008 9:39 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Heh
Its all good.  I have been hearing from people on other forums that we don't support our players when they fall short of the stated goal.  I just wanted to prove to them otherwise.  

by bruin8uclap on Apr 6, 2008 10:10 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

yea that would be really cool
I hope theres some stuff that goes on to recognize the season again, and for the players and coaches to see how much we really did appreciate the year.
O.A.

by Ollie on Apr 6, 2008 9:47 PM PDT   0 recs

LMAO
At the poll! Little biased? haha! And the (lol) after Lute, priceless! I needed a good laugh!
Go UCLA!

by madmaxucla on Apr 6, 2008 9:49 PM PDT   0 recs

By the way...
Of course I voted for CBH too! :)
Go UCLA!

by madmaxucla on Apr 6, 2008 10:13 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Ahhhhh, what a feeling...
I have to echo the comments made on "The Rare Sunday" post from earlier today. Man, I really can't stop thinking about how we didn't play our game! But great season, great coach, great team, great fans. I wouldn't trade my membership to the UCLA community for anything. I will forever hold my BruinCard dearly in my wallet.

Nothing left to do but relax and look forward to number 12, coming next year! I'm already excited to see the new recruits in action.

And I'm also glad to be meeting other Bay Area Bruins this year. I will definitely try to get out to more BAB events and keep meeting Bruins from throughout history.

Thanks, Bruins, for an amazing year of basketball!

by dlipkin on Apr 6, 2008 9:50 PM PDT   0 recs

In my perfect world...
...there is a homecoming reception for the team just like the one that sent them off.  There's no shame in what happened in San Antonio.  This was an amzaing team and an amazing year.  I'm sorry that Lo didn't get a championship, and I hope DC and KL are smart enough to stick around (RW is gone baby gone...he's too good).

by RedDoor on Apr 6, 2008 10:24 PM PDT   0 recs

I think we can all agree
it is extremely difficult to get to the final four. Of course you need a great team that is well coached,  but you also need a few bounces, a few calls to go your way.  That said, it is nothing short of amazing what CBH and the warriors have accomplished.  We cannot become complacent and assume we will be there every year.  It just won't happen. But I firmly believe with CBH we will break on thru to the other side very soon.  In the meantime, we will have a quality product to root for, one that will play with grit and intensity and make us proud.

Well done boys.

by UCLAMD89 on Apr 6, 2008 10:43 PM PDT   0 recs

it makes me...
proud beyond measure to be a BRUIN after witnessing the accomplishments of our team this season, as well as the undying love and support that they receive from this forum.  I wish there would be a homecoming for them and I did try to find out from my dance team friends when the players were coming back but I never got a response. In that case, I vow to personally thank every player I see on campus from Mata to Matt Lee for all of the joy they have brought us this season.  And I will make sure to tell them that BruinsNation is grateful and is always behind them! :)

Here's to bleeding blue and gold!

by bruin08 on Apr 6, 2008 11:03 PM PDT   0 recs

I saw Luc Richard Mbah a Moute today...
I was in San Antonio today, killing time before my evening flight back to LA and I ran into LRMAM and his family walking along the river walk.  I shook his hand and congratulated him on a great season.  He was very gracious and thanked me.  I only wish I could have done the same for all of the players.  I'm so very proud of everything our team has accomplished this year and the last 5 years under the leadership of Coach Howland.  Its been nothing short of amazing to be a Bruin!  
GO BRUINS!

by rgalloucla on Apr 6, 2008 11:43 PM PDT   0 recs

Wow
I wish there were a way we could all express how proud we are of this team to them. They all looked so devastated. It's a funny thing when you realize that you wanted the success for them because they're great people far more than for yourself as a fan.

by Tydides on Apr 6, 2008 11:53 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Yea exactly
thats exactly it right there, this year especially, I was able to come to grips with the fact that we just got outplayed, and was able to let the disappointment go more quickly than that first florida game.

But, this year,  I was more affected than ever, especially seeing Darren go off like that.  When he went off with 4 fouls, he gave a little fist pound to an assistant, I think it was Donny, and I knew he was remaining positive and was doing everything he could to not show frustration when it clearly wasn't his night.

It's no secret that Darren grew into a Bruin that I have ultimate respect for; the passion, leadership, and skill he displayed this season made me so proud, and I think made me a better fan.

Tydides your right, this isn't just about us, this game and this team is a big part of our life, but for guys like Lo, Kevin, Russel, Darren, they are this team, this is their life, and for them I feel the most hurt.

O.A.

by Ollie on Apr 7, 2008 12:21 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Agree
They seem like great young men who worked so hard and have dealt with so much pressure. It's tough to see the pain on their faces. We all wanted the championship so much for them. It's amazing how they can be so gracious after such a painful loss. I've posted before on my experience meeting several football players after the loss at Notre Dame in 06. I was blown away by how polite and gracious they were after such a difficult loss. My heart ached for them, but it solidified my bruin pride knowing what great people they are. CBH will no doubt teach the players how to deal with adversity and disappointment which will only add to their character and make them stronger in many ways.  

I met Jeff Tedford a few weeks ago. He was very friendly and affable. I asked him about recruiting, and the first thing he mentioned was how hard the staff was trying to recruit kids with character. Beyond winning, CBH and great coaches mold young men and emphasize the importance of representing their university with class and respect. These players are winners and I wish we could all thank them for their hard work and how they conduct and carry themselves.  

by Bruins095 on Apr 7, 2008 12:37 AM PDT   0 recs

One to be Remembered
I've followed Bruin BB since 1964. Some of those teams were more memorable than others. The '73, '75 and '95 Championship teams are close to my heart. I have a feeling that I will have a soft place in my heart for this year's team even though they didn't win the NC.  They had a fighting spirit and comraderie that is rare.  I am sad for all of them.  DC is a warrior.  He has been roundly criticized in the MSM for having an off game on the big stage.  Like the courageous man he is, he has taken full blame for the loss which he should not.  Memphis geared their entire defense to neutralize Darren.  That's an honor to be feared as a great point guard. Lorenzo, thank you for your commitment and courage.  K-Love demonstrated all season long why he was the best BB player in America and I am only too proud that he chose my alma mater over all schools to display his talent as well as his exemplary character.

by bruin75 on Apr 7, 2008 1:04 AM PDT   0 recs

We Believe in Coach
When I first saw our warriors lose, it was painful but I got over it because I know we'll be back. However, two things that continue to bother me are the continuous Bruin and CBH bashing from different commentators and Bruin-haters on TV/radio, and how some Bruin fans are on panic mode and so ready to criticize our program. Firstly, many continue to bash us that 3 trips to the Final Four is nothing because the committee always gave us a favorable bracket and so on. Hey, we had to face Memphis during our previous Final Four trip...so is Memphis also getting a favorable bracket? We have it somewhat easier because we've been consistent during the season, giving ourselves a higher seed. At the same time, we have seen many big name teams fall to lower seed teams during the Madness. It's not the bracket, it's the consistency. Also, I read some ignoramus somewhere claim that our 3 trips to the Final Four means nothing. Where is Florida now? Where is Kentucky? Where is Ohio State? and I'm sure there are many more teams that used to be big time but were nowhere near the Final Four. We have been consistently good with many different freshmen players through 3 different years. CBH can't be blamed for players leaving early. I think every year he operates based on the assumption that this is last chance with that particular team because players will leave. I give him all the credit for his accomplishments.

Secondly, the panic mode. Bruin fans, calm down. Let next season play out before starting to question CBH already. Sure we could have used more offense, sure we didn't adjust during the game, sure Josh Shipp hit a wall at the worst of time, and so on...but it's done. Given the size and speed of their players and how deep their bench was, there was little we could have done to counter because we had not perimeter game on that given night. We all learn as we go. We didn't get to the Final Four by luck, we got there by learning and studying the game. We will add bigger and more versatile guards next season and I'm sure the Ben Ball style will change again just like we changed from Farmar to Collison and Westbrook. So let next season play out...

Go, Go, Go Bruins! Challenging the Future!
(anyone remember where that's from? or is it still being used...)

by bruin98 on Apr 7, 2008 2:09 AM PDT   0 recs

The Bruin Faithful Aren't In Panic Mode
Although we rooted with our hearts, this team's offensive inconsistency left most fans with the feeling that if an opponent played really well against us, we would run out of miracles.  That finally happened against Memphis, a very very good team. The Bruin Faithful love our team and out coach, but that doesn't stop everyone from second guessing what might have been done to change the outcome.  This season was a rousing success, even if we didn't raise Banner 12.  The future is bright.  Go Bruins!

by 75NatChamps on Apr 7, 2008 1:32 PM PDT   0 recs

I still don't think so
I still don't think Memphis is a very very good team. I just think they have two players who dominate their position and win games for them. I think 3-5, our players are better than theirs. I personally find their NBA-style "isolation" type offense very boring. They are a winning team, with emphasis on the winning rather than on the team part.

by tasser10 on Apr 8, 2008 10:44 AM PDT to parent up   0 recs

Well, Joe Posnanski,
a sports commentator for the Kansas City Star had a piece in this morning's paper about the alley-oop, in which he stated that our team plays something he calls "joyless basketball" because of Ben Howland's coaching style.  (Too disciplined, I think he is saying, too rigid.)  He complained about Coach Howland running up and down the floor calling plays. (Of course, I find it odd to complain about a coach, you know, COACHING, but, ok, Joe.)  Well, thank God he doesn't just sit there, staring, open-mouthed, `ala Roy Williams on Saturday night.  Talk about abandonment issues.

  I went ahead and sent Joe an e-mail with some of the shots you've posted, Tele, which I felt adequately depicted the sheer joy and energy of our team. Reviewing those photos did it for me.  What a terrific season, what a great team!  What FUN!! What WONDERFUL kids!

Damn, we're lucky.

No Matter What

Love My Bruins

by Bruingirl83 on Apr 7, 2008 3:00 PM PDT   0 recs

Hey, here's an update for Joe
You know what fans and players find fun? Winning. We did a whole lot of that the past three years.

by Tydides on Apr 7, 2008 3:10 PM PDT to parent up   0 recs

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