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a guy named bluebellknoll at bruinzone. It seemed like good information so I cut and pasted it to put here. I'm saying who it was and where I got it from so I think it's okay if I do this. Here it is:
From a reliable BRO poster (dude with tude) who's close to the Athletic Dept. as a scholarship sponsor.According to people he talked to in the AD, KD is very well liked in the AD
"He knows everyone's name, he remembers birthday's , he's articulate, he's hard working, he's respectful of his superiors, he's respectful of his players and their parents, he is responsible for the kids academic health."
On the other hand, Howland is not well liked in the department.
"He treats people around him like sh*t and if you are not directly benefiting him and the basketball program, you are of little use to him. He is about one thing - the basketball program. He is brash, abrasive and often rude. He is relentless on wanting new facilities. He wins but he is not well liked by people in the AD."
BH has a greater chance of getting canned than KD. Oh, the irony.
BH is a hard-nosed, winner, and KD is just a nice guy.
Looks like KD is our next Terry Donahue (>20 years at UCLA). Oh, the horror.
Oh well, I guess the AD is happy having secured their jobs, living in the prolonged fairy tale of college and having everyone around them be nice to them and tell them how great they are like KD does. Howland's too busy caring about winning. I guess he's an outsider as far as they're concerned.
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bluebell
And using blockquote really helps. You can click on "Edit Story" to see the codes used.
And the post itself is just total BS.
I don't really care if Howland is a hard a$$ as long as he gets the job done without breaking any rules.
I have met him and his coaching staff before. And they are nothing short of wonderful diplomate for UCLA hoops.
And I don't really care how nice KD is ... he is still an incompetent head coach.
With the way the Morgan Center operates...
Obviously I don't care how nice KD is to everyone
I provided the post because if it's true it seems like good insight into how our AD thinks. So you say the post is not true. Well, then I'm glad I posted it so you were able to relieve my fears of how dumb our AD is. Thank you, for having better inside information than bluebell.
by babyblue98 on Nov 8, 2006 1:36 PM PST reply actions
clarification
I'm skeptical...
I had the privilege of traveling with the team to the Final Four last year with the band, and on the flight home from Indianapolis, I was approached by Coach Howland as he was walking through plane. I was watching Family Guy on my laptop and he stopped, introduced himself (as if he needed to), shook my hand, and asked my name. We proceeded to talk about Family Guy (apparently the team introduced him to the show and he has been a fan since) and the experience we just had in Indianapolis for a few minutes. He could have easily just passed by me, another random UCLA student and Band member. But instead he started a conversation with me, something I would probably be hesitant to do because of rules against disturbing the players/coaches for the band and spirit squad.
There has never been any indication to me of Coach Howland treating people poorly and frankly, I have serious doubts that he would act like that to the staff at UCLA. This was his dream job, I don't see any reason for him to be a jerk to the people he works with or employ him...ok, facilities might be a reason...
I'm with you AK
EVEN if he was a dick, I don't care. He's not paid to be a nice guy, he's paid to WIN.
I'm sure to a bunch of losers
Oh no, Ben Howland didn't remember your birthday. BFD. Sack up and look at the results. Coach Howland is intense, but I've heard nothing to indicate what this post claims in his personal life. This borders on a (unsubstantiated) personal attack, and it's disgusting to see the KD lovers try and throw Howland under the bus just to save this disaster of a coach.
well said
- Morgan Center offers up KD's wife as a political pawn to the LAT for an image hit piece during a 4 game losing streak to respond to criticism of his actual record. KD The Thinker?!
- Lackeys are hitting the internet with "rumors" that KD isn't going anywhere (so give up and support the team) and tripe about how bad Howland, a winner, is.
- Former and current players, coaches, Donohue era carpet tramps are coming forward to say what a great player KD was, how great a coach he is, how disciplined he is, how he has turned around this program ... and how fickle and stupid we the fans are.
- Irrational exuberance continues in the face of overwhelmingly negative results: "the team is improving;" "the offense gained 500+ yards (against the #92 ranked defense in the country, #106 against the pass!) so KD taking over the offense is great news."
by DumpDorrell on Nov 8, 2006 4:04 PM PST up reply actions
Birthday Coordinator
In 40 years, I hope I see a 90-year old Howland sitting next to a 136-year old John Wooden in Pauley Pavilion looking up at a score of banners hanging from the rafters.
by trojan killing greek guy on Nov 8, 2006 2:33 PM PST reply actions
Wouldn't you?
Winners versus losers
I don't want to over-generalize, because there are many exceptions, but its hardly surprising that someone who excels in the highest levels of coaching might be characterized as brash, abrasive or rude -- particularly if your perspective is as a low level person in the Morgan Center.
Beyond the obvious- that personality doesn't matter over winning- it is fairly evident in life that the people who have the drive, determination, passion and skill to acheive great things aren't usually the good natured janitor types. They kick ass and take names. They strive for victory and acheive it. They don't take time to remember that it's Doris' 15th year with the company.
This has got to be the same in a lot of professions. I know that the some of the heavy hitters at my old law firms were the biggest SOB's in the world. But, oh my, could some of them practice law. And, are the owners/CEO's of the companies I know all full of sugar and spice? Hell no.
Listen, I have every reason to believe that KD is a nice fellow. That's great, and I'm not being sarcastic- it really is. It's just not necessarily great, standing alone, for UCLA's football program.
I, for one, want a coach that is going to do everything he can within the rules to put our program on top. And, frankly, I don't care if the staff thinks he's just super.
No wonder KD is losing and BH just blew out
This post pisses me off because I'm sick of the Dorrell spin; win and get tough or get out of there. I wish people could show their distaste by just not going to the game this Saturday at the RB and selling out the place this Thursday at Pauley.
And if it means anything to anyone, I worked in the Morgan Center for Sports Marketing for a year and the coaches were always focused. Kathy Olivier never once said hi to me in the year I worked there, I swear to god.
Coach Howland
He took the time to pose for a picture with myself and my grandson which is proudly displayed in my office. To say someone is not considerate of others is harsh and I believe that the poster needs more info because Coach is a great guy.
by sealbeachbruindad on Nov 8, 2006 7:17 PM PST reply actions
Like they say...
by bmb21 on Nov 8, 2006 8:13 PM PST reply actions
I'm hearing rumors
We have to give him another extension
by DumpDorrell on Nov 8, 2006 10:19 PM PST up reply actions
You know else was a dick?
Nough said.
by HomeBruin @ Bruins Nation on Nov 8, 2006 10:21 PM PST reply actions
Speaking of dicks....
Checklist
He is honest.
He treats the fans and the game with respect.
He wins games.
He embraces our extensive and illustrious legacy.
He may or may not rub people in Morgan Center the wrong way. With the way they've botched the KD situation thus far, I'd say we need someone to shake things up down there. Howland is probably weeding out the losers, so good for him, and good for us.
HA!
by DumpDorrell on Nov 9, 2006 1:18 AM PST reply actions
We Don't Tolerate That Weak Shit Here
Nice guys are compensating
Warm and fuzzy...
I want my son lead, trained , disciplined, worked hard and successful. His Auntie will be nice to him.
That's why I applaud the hire of Walker. I know some guys are struggling with the way the defense looks right now but that has more to do with past recruiting than with Walker's coaching. He's a tough, fundamentally driven coach who will make sure the boy aligns correctly, tackles and pursues. More of that, less bullshit.
Where's the milk and cookies?
by kauwildman on Nov 9, 2006 8:33 AM PST reply actions

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