Season-Ending Thoughts--Where We Are Now (from Bruin Blue)
Here is our guest blogger Bruin Blue's final post on the 2006-07 football season. FWIW, the "Blues/Cranks" reference from Bruin Blue in this post is a reference to a phenomenon (Dorrell supporters=blues; skeptics/realists=cranks) which is unique to the communities of Bruin message boards. Obviously, we don't have those artificial divisions in our reality-based community here in Bruins Nation. Anyways, many thanks again to Bruin Blue who has let us feature his wonderful and poignant thoughts on Bruin football to share it with rest of Bruins Nation. It is yet another must read. GO BRUINS. - N
Well, another UCLA football season has come and gone. We went 7-6. This means that Karl Dorrell has lost six games or more in three of his first four seasons. I will pretty confidently say that there is not another major football program in the entire country which would not fire a head coach who had three six-loss seasons in his first four years. Not one. But of course, this program would have to be the one exception.
Believe me, I am not taking pleasure in this latest defeat. Actually, I was foolish enough to make a little wager on UCLA, ignoring the fact that the right bet in any UCLA game is the underdog; and that under what I used to call the "Pepper Rodgers theory" (which I developed while he was at Georgia Tech), mediocre coaches with good talent play wildly unpredictable games. Anyway, I lost, the team lost, we all lost, and here we are. And I know very well that if only we had done this, or if this other hadn't happened, we might have won. Of course, that is the way in many football games. We could have easily lost four more games last year. We could have lost to USC this year, or we could have beaten Notre Dame. But here we are, 7-6. The final black-and-white result is 7-6, fourth place in the Pac-10, loss in a third-tier Bowl to a 6-6 team, a finish well out of the Top Thirty. When you play 13 games in a college football season, all of which count significantly, you have to focus on the bottom line.
But Karl Dorrell still draws a great deal of support from many Bruin fans, which is a phenomenon in itself. I've puzzled and pondered about that many times here. Perhaps it's some sort of cognitive dissonance--Dorrell is here, and we want him to do well, so we have to convince ourselves that he is doing well, or about to do well; or otherwise we have to admit that the program we care about made another foolish hiring decision, and we have wasted our time. Or it's that insular aspect I've noted: Dorrell went to UCLA, and all of Donahue's ex-player cadre likes him; so we should, too. We would just rather have "a Bruin" than someone with no ties to the program. That must be the reason that every time we try to make a hire in football, our short list has only those who either played or coached at UCLA. Me, I'd desperately look for someone outside the program, who could bring in a much-needed infusion of a new winning attitude; but I get outvoted each time.
I'm under no illusion that the most recent loss has changed many attitudes, or that it will help hasten Dorrell's departure. Everyone knows that we will have a very good season next year. We return almost everyone, with a year more of experience. We have a much more favorable schedule than last year. And with the wins, will come all of the optimism, and the Dorrell support again. My guess for next year is 10-2; with one surprise loss before USC exacts its revenge. 10-2 is a good year, except that we won't win the league, and that it will be the best record we will have in a while. The following year we will go back to something like 8-4, and so on. The key fact which keeps getting ignored is that we have more talent at UCLA than most of the teams we play; and better talent wins often enough, that we can average seven wins a year under ANY coach. The oft-mocked Toledo did it, Donahue did it, Pepper Rodgers (with a 10-game schedule) had the same relative success. It goes on and on, but doesn't really get us anywhere significant, which is the tragedy (if you can use "tragedy" in a sports sense) of UCLA football.
Even with all this, I can't fully understand the wish of so many UCLA fans to like Karl Dorrell as a coach. My honest view is that he is pretty much a figurehead; someone who never called plays as a coordinator, someone who really is not particularly well versed in the complexities of so-called X's and O's. His postgame comments (and in four years, we've heard enough of them to gauge) are an embarrassing mixture of meaningless cliches and some kind of pseudo manager-speak, never about the actual intricacies of what happened on the field. "We need to keep doing the things we're doing, working to get better." "We need to get everyone on the same page." "The effort out there shows that we are definitely going in the right direction." (After fifty games you have coached, we are "going in the right direction?"). Does it not occur to you that Dorrell makes such comments because, a) he doesn't know what else to say; and, b) he thinks it sounds good to his bosses, this sense that it is a long, hard road we are traveling, but that we're slowly making progress? Haven't you ever come across people in management, who weren't accomplishing much at all, try to hide it under such meaningless corporate gabble? It cannot do for Dorrell to admit that we have ever taken a major step back; it has to all seem like just another glitch in what is clearly a positive course. Given the realities of major college football, such a stance is laughable, but he seems to get away with it, as attested to by the unwearying faith of so many UCLA supporters.
I always enjoy the literate and insightful writings of Charles Chiccoa, but I think even he would admit that this "Blues/Cranks" thing which he invented has taken on a life which he never intended. It implies that there are simply irreconcilable factions which for whatever reason (birth? breeding? temperament?) will see things through their own peculiarly colored lenses. It's become like the Cavaliers vs. the Roundheads; the Royalists vs. the Jacobins; the Red-Staters vs. the Blue-Staters--twains which can never, ever meet. This allows one side to just ignore or dismiss the arguments of the other side as predictable, repetitive or biased, without even trying to examine cold, hard facts, such as season records, conference success, Bowl results, national status. In none of these four, has the Dorrell regime been any kind of success; and yet here he is, ready to set forth on season number five, with the backing of a good portion of the alumni and fan base. To me, this either means that many of them don't really have much in the way of expectations; they have blinders on; they have attained a certain comfort level with the kind of coaches we hire, and don't want to risk going outside it by making a play to become really big-time; or perhaps some of them have a personal relationship with the coaches, and value that above all.
I often wish that there were indeed multiple universes, because then the Dorrell supporters could inhabit the one where their man was here forever, with all of his coaching style and postgame comments, and the entire ethos of his regime. Meanwhile, I and others could inhabit the world where we had Butch Davis or Tom O'Brien, or someone who has proven he can win as a head coach, and we could enjoy all of that. But of course it doesn't work that way. You who continue to champion Dorrell force the rest of us to put up with him. In my less generous moments, I wish that all the people who fought and clawed to keep Steve Lavin here for so many years; who said of those of us who told them from the outset that he was an incompetent and a charlatan; that we were damaging the program, that we were closet Trojan fans, that we we didn't know anything about basketball; would have to inhabit a world in which he was still coach, and could not enjoy the benefits of having Ben Howland. But of course they get to enjoy Howland, too; even though in some sense they did everything they could to keep him from ever having the chance to coach here. And similarly, I see the most fervent of Dorrell's supporters of helping to perpetuate a situation which keeps us from ever having the chance to actually have an astute, knowledgeable, highly competent football coach here. And that bothers me greatly, as we take leave of another season.
Now, it's on to basketball, which is light years removed from our football program. There, we have a proven, topflight head coach and staff, which has already achieved major success last year, and now has us ranked Number One in the country. Imagine that; and they said it couldn't be done, that the times had passed UCLA basketball by. I've seen many lately say "Thank heavens for Ben Howland," or words to that effect. But if we allow our much-deserved basketball enjoyment to lower our rightful expectations for Bruin football, to allow a regime which has fallen short in all respects of what even the Athletic Director had indicated were the minimum requirements for the program, to blithely continue along acting and thinking like it is doing just fine, then we are doing a disservice to all of us, and cheating ourselves out of the wonderful fun of actually having a great football program. Needless to say, after so many years of this self-imposed futility, my long-term hopes are not very high that any of this will change; but there is still a little bit of hope there; and I do wish that more of you would urge that the necessary changes in perception, expectation and coach be made.
-Bruin Blue
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of BruinsNation's (BN) editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of BN's editors.
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Great insight
by Yoyo on
Dec 28, 2006 12:10 PM PST
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Dorell's Consistent
Just like at Washington, when we were piling up the yardage and clearly the dominant first half team, he played not to lose from the very start, thus guaranteeing a loss by choking our own offense and keeping the other team in the game. He started shutting down our offense in the second quarter and even kept it shut in the second half when he just ran the ball with Markey and we scored a relatively easy rushing touchdown after FSU's cheap special teams TD.
This is how KD always will be. He is the Terry Donahue clone. So ironic. FSU knew they couldn't run against us so they just played the shotgun 90% of the time and threw the Hell out of the ball til they finally connected and got their rhythm. We could run, so TD, I mean KD, ran 90% of the time and threw the ball downfield like three times the whole game until he was finally forced to rely on PC until the critical, game-losing interception.
KD also keeps blowing the QB position. PC has great heart but is average at best. BO should have started this game. He is the QB of the future, unless he realizes he will always have the shaft with KD and transfers again. If I were him, I would. Loyalty is a two way street.
Oh well, better luck next year, right fellahs? Get ready for 20 more years of the return of Terry-ball. Good grief.
by uclahy on
Dec 28, 2006 12:35 PM PST
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Do not let these words go unheard
by tasser10 on
Dec 28, 2006 1:30 PM PST
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Good point and an easy action
by bluestreet on
Dec 28, 2006 1:33 PM PST
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Calling all Blind Supporters
Sadly, it is time to call out those that were beating their chests, flying their KD banner high following the SC win, denigrating the opinions and character of the BN readers and contributors. They tried to use his one true victory to mask four years of incompetence, and attacked those of us who had the audacity to harbor remaining doubts about the legitimacy of the "positive direction" of the program following that win. By and large, the members here who demanded that KD produce in this game or suffer the Lavin comparisons were the ones proven right after yet another inconsistent KD performance. Yes, the blind KD supporters "spoke too soon", and not looking at facts like his putrid bowl record, his penchant for underperforming and underpreparing in the big games, etc. came back to bite them in the ass.
I cannot truly enjoy being in the right, because the pain of the mediocrity and irrelevence of this program ensures that I, and all other Bruin fans, lose in this scenario. So while Nestor has done a great job in continuing to paint the picture of an incompetent head coach in way over his head (not that KD needs any extra help in that department), I'd just like to know where these supporters are now, and what objective attributes they are using to justify their continued support of KD.
It almost seems a herculian task to get these people to self-analyze and perhaps discover the underlying faulty logic that fuels their support of KD, but it is a task that I see as necessary if the athletic department is going to truly see that Bruin fans as a whole, disregarding this Blue/Crank stuff, will not accept mediocrity and will not accept a second rate coach. Because it appears that just the numbers in KD's bumbling stumbling tenure is not enough to get the wheels in motion, but you can bet that the numbers combined with disheartened fans hitting their bottom line will get the attention of everyone in Morgan Center.
It is time for Bruin fans to step out from behind the "touchy feely" stories and take a good hard look at the numbers, the lack of true growth, the atrocious record, and demand more. In a way, I feel like I am barking up the wrong tree, because I feel like the vast majority of BN readers embrace the fact based approach, but as shown from the chest beaters that made themselves prominently known following 12/2 (where they hadn't been heard from since we beat Rice), I know some of them still lurk and read.
Objectively, I know the chances of KD leaving us before the next season begins are quite slim, but with the right change of mindset, we can make it clear that Bruin fans as a whole will accept nothing less than the Pac 10 title we were promised by KD himself next year.
by Tydides on
Dec 28, 2006 1:44 PM PST
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Next year
I too am still holding out hope that the standard tank at the Emerald Bowl and new Chancellor will drive Guerrero to make a change. When that doesn't happen, I'm wondering if someone can tell me why people think next year will be different? I've read all the posts: the schedule is easier, we get ND at home and they'll have a new QB, we'll be starting Olsen (hopefully), returning players... etc... blah, blah, blah.
7-6
But we hear the same thing every year.
"We're gonna be Pac 10 champs!" after beating the Rice's in the frist 4 games. Lose a game we should win in horrific fashion that would get any other coach fired by email on the sideline... "We can still do it! Pac 10!" Another loss, another loss, "I still feel this team is growing..." blah, blah blah...
7-6
The problem for The Bruins seems to be systematic -- these coaches and by connection these players don't know how to get it done. There's no way the schedule is going to be easier than it was during the fluke 10-2 year when we were ditching the offense to throw hail mary's (gee, sounds like yesterday) and it feels like this team has an even more fragile identity.
So tell me why I should not count on another 7-6 year, slew of embarrassing televised loses and crappy bowl crushing? That's what Dorrell does. It is his comfort zone. He can not guide a team to better, this offense can not do better, and it's really frustrating to listen to the people who maintain they are realists talk about how next year will be great. 7 wins. Like normal. And maybe it's too great an uphill battle to try to get changes since like BB says, too many Bruin "fans" are happy with that.
So why are people saying 10 wins?
by greatgymnasticsschool on
Dec 28, 2006 2:32 PM PST
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Let me break it down for you
1. Given the schedule next year, even a blind donkey SHOULD win 10 games.
2. The point of saying that next year's team will win 10 games is that they would do it DESPITE KD and not thanks to him, as they did last year, hence allowing him to boast of his great coaching skills and prolonging our suffering.
3. Anything short of 10 wins and/or a Pac-10 championship is grounds for firing KD in our opinion, and even that may not be enough.
All you do is come here and say "we suck now and we will suck next year, so just stop talking about it and accept that we suck". Well that defeats the purpose of a blog, doesn't it. I think people have explained pretty well why 10 wins is a reasonable, realistic expectation next year. A better point of discussion is whether another pathetic 7-win season would finally lead DG to fire KD or not...
by tasser10 on
Dec 28, 2006 3:13 PM PST
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Seriously
If you want to preach to apathetic UCLA fans you need to take that repetitive crap somewhere else.
No one here is exact predicting a 10 win season, but most folks here are expecting a 10 win/Pac-10 championship type of season next year. And people are basing those expectations based on returning talent, experience etc.
As Tasser said even a Donkey should be able to win 10 games/Pac-10 with the talent and not to mention the easy schedule UCLA will have next season.
by bluestreet on
Dec 28, 2006 3:17 PM PST
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10-2, 7-6, Tomato, Tomaato
We still can't land a top recruit and I'm worried Dorrell and especially Walker will be focused on next years seniors fluffing up their resumes. Not overly concerned about what they leave left in the cupboard. How are we going to land our great coach then? And that dream scenario actually has us winning a championship! In reality, we end up with 10 wins, a loss to sc, no PAC 10 title, and we lose both coaches. Even if they come back, half the team will be gone and god help us it will be Dorrell rebuilding.
That means that next year is the beginning and the end. UNLESS... DG strikes now. While he can politcally do it. Imagine next years returining team in capable hands. And having a coach who can build for the future without having to rebuild!
As I wrote in my entry on the Dump Dorrell Petition (before the OSU game) DG should fire KD after his NEXT loss. It came later than I expected. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR DEC. 2. But it is now time to pull the trigger.
GO BRUINS!!! FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT!!!
by TCbruin32 on
Dec 28, 2006 3:29 PM PST
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Brilliant post!
by DumpDorrell on
Dec 28, 2006 3:07 PM PST
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expecting 10 wins...
Bruin Blue says:
"I'm under no illusion that the most recent loss has changed many attitudes, or that it will help hasten Dorrell's departure. Everyone knows that we will have a very good season next year. We return almost everyone, with a year more of experience. We have a much more favorable schedule than last year. And with the wins, will come all of the optimism, and the Dorrell support again. My guess for next year is 10-2; with one surprise loss before USC exacts its revenge. 10-2 is a good year, except that we won't win the league, and that it will be the best record we will have in a while. **
Now that doesn't sound like "we demand 10 wins Guerrero." It IS "we're going to be 10-2 next year." Just like a good "Dorrell Supporter". He even says how that will be a good year!
We're not going to be 10 and 2. Let's make sure everyone is clear about it and then when it is another 7-5 season, hopefully we won't have to waste ANOTHER year with Dorrell.
by greatgymnasticsschool on
Dec 28, 2006 5:08 PM PST
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You have it wrong
Given the returing talent and favorabole schedule BB is expecting 10 wins. And there is nothing wrong with that.
by Nestor on
Dec 28, 2006 5:44 PM PST
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Oh, now I see!
"even a blind donkey SHOULD win 10 games."
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"next year's team will win 10 games is that they would do it DESPITE KD and not thanks to him"
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"Anything short of 10 wins and/or a Pac-10 championship is grounds for firing KD"
to "Everyone knows that we will have a very good season next year."
IT SURE CHANGES THE MEANING!
Wow, how silly of me!
by greatgymnasticsschool on
Dec 29, 2006 8:54 AM PST
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Not sure I get you
Again, I am not sure I understand what it is you are trying to say, so help me out.
by tasser10 on
Dec 29, 2006 12:49 PM PST
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I agree we're not disagreeing...
And you're correct, I don't understand why people here at BN, where everyone claims to be so passionate about not being KD supporters, think we will win 10 games in spite of him. The only time that happens is when you get to play bad / overrated teams every week, like two seasons ago, get down to them in every game so you have to throw up prayers... Next year is not going to be that way (and you better hope it's not or KD will be harder to get rid of than the Butterfly tattoo you don't remember getting on spring break.)
Here's a few reasons why:
- I disagree next year is an easy schedule. Cal, ND and USC will be ranked. Out of Utah, Oregon, ASU, OSU, UW, BYW, WSU, etc. let's say another 3 minimum will be ranked. That's at least SIX ranked teams... The prevailing stat is KD is 3-11 against ranked teams (which I think is high because it should be teams that are ranked at the END of the season, not when you play them.) But even using that stat he has to beat his four-year total number of wins against ranked teams in one season AND win every other game (which he has NEVER done) in order to get 10 wins. Good luck. Teams don't win 10 games despite the coach with schedules like that. And look at the games after Oct 1st when KD is his most ass-tastic.
- And why do people think these returning players are going to all of a sudden learn how to win consistently and in big games? Was anyone at ND? (I was) Anyone watch the Emerald Bowl? And I don't fault the players AT ALL, I feel terrible for them because I can only imagine the feeling when you're working year-round and putting it all on the line and the play call of run-up-the-middle comes in... again... and gets in late to boot. And certainly the players understand and talk about the same things we do. These players, because of these coaches, aren't put in a position to be successful and don't have the confidence, especially in big games against good teams.
- I think KD is a worse, more scared and more predictable coach than he was two years ago. He's less likely to let things break down from his "plan" and crap offense. He also now plays not to lose even earlier... like the start of the 3rd quarter.
- If we have any gamebreaking/breakout type of players (especially on offense), where are they? and any who have shown glimpses have been inconsistent at best. (see about coaches above)
But for me, I think it's a sad statement about the majority of UCLA fans that KD's still here. But that's UCLA Football Fans, instead of mutiny, apathy, acceptance and more false hope because he'll be here at least another year if not more.
I know everyone here wants change... But I want it now. I want mutiny. I want anger. I thought this was the place where more people would feel the same.
by greatgymnasticsschool on
Dec 29, 2006 6:40 PM PST
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Optimism versus realism versus insanity
The dark green bowl looked like most of KD's other games. The list of his shortcomings is long, and every one of them (plus some new ones) was hauled out and put on display in that game.
I don't think there is any reason to think that KD will do anything different next year. He is getting no heat at all from anyone other than in this blog which I am sure neither he nor DG reads. If he does nothing different, why is there such optimism?
I don't think we can expect ten wins next year doing things the same way. In fact, I think an expectation of a ten win season is beyond optimism.
We all share one goal - to see UCLA football become a perennial powerhouse. We all share the belief that this goal will not be achieved with KD at the helm. So rather than rant, is there anything we can actually do to get KD out (anything that isn't a felony)? Don't we have any boosters or supporters with clout? Can those people be identified and persuaded to get off the KD bandwagon? I don't know who any of those people are, nor do I have any idea how to research the issue. Is there anything else that can be done that has a realistic expectation of convincing DG to make the obvious move and fire the coach?
It's nice to get things off one's chest now and then, but I would like to be able to do something that might actually have a chance to effect the change that the team so desperately needs.
P.S. I think that perhaps the most infuriating aspect of KD's public personality is his inability to put spin on his losses and shortcomings other than through the use of cliches. Once in a while, a nice "I sucked as a coach, and that's why we lost" would be refreshing, and frankly would have made me a little more sympathetic. But not now. He's got to go.
by Fox 71 on
Dec 30, 2006 7:07 AM PST
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On Your Page!
by SinnerBoy 99 on
Dec 31, 2006 5:32 PM PST
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Next Year
Why should we expect next year to be any different from this one, if we have the same coach doing the same things the same way? I think the consensus after the 10-2 season was that KD was a terrible coach who had great players (most notably MJD) who bailed him out of what seemed to be sure losses.
A few more questions: Is there anyone in the MSM who has the temerity to ask any tough questions to either KD or DG? I would love to hear a reporter interrupt the next time KD utters a cliche or platitude and tell him that we're fed up with that sort of non-speak. Won't anyone ask DG flat out what his definition of a successful football program is? (If "cleaning up" the program is DG's definition, the KD program appears to have been successful.) Or equally as important, won't anyone ask DG why he hasn't fired KD already.
OK, end of rant. Given that we missed the boat on a lot of the big name coaches out there, who is left? Who would we realistically have a chance to sign?
by Fox 71 on
Dec 28, 2006 6:19 PM PST
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Which I passionately disagree with but guess is true because even the people here are saying it.
But the reality for the reporters is they're worried about the school cutting off access to the players, coaches, etc... and not just in football but all sports. If the school cuts off access or KD / Guerrero refuses to talk to them, they can't do their job and their editor has to support them bigtime, maybe even in printing that by asking the tough questions, they were cut off, etc... That's REALLY unlikely to happen from the Times or Daily News. (Maybe Simers could get away with it but he's got other stuff with bigger teams to fry...)
As for the coaches, great question. There are plenty of guys out there who would leave jobs (Neuheisel) to take the Head Coaching position with UCLA. And all of them have more than wide receiver coach experience.
has anyone seen a postgame interview with KD or Guerrero?
And GREAT comment on the insanity. VERY TRUE.
by greatgymnasticsschool on
Dec 28, 2006 6:50 PM PST
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the media stinks
I just want to make a point about this 10-win season we are expecting next year. In no way do we see this as supporting KD!!! It is quite the opposite. We feel that the team would win 10 games because they are more experienced and will play better together, not because KD will do a good job! Even if he wins 10 we want him to be fired, because that record would have NOTHING to do with his abilities as a coach. Our fear is that the administration will feel compelled to keep him due to his second 10-win season, meaningless though it actually is. So, in essence, the team itself is a 10-win team, but KD's coaching makes it a 7-win team at best, unless the players take games over as they did last year.
Another point about Neuheisel. UCLA fired Toledo due to PARKING violations, some minor character issues with his players, and possible recruiting violations if I am not mistaken. Neuheisel has left two programs (UW and Colorado) completely shattered in his wake and is not exactly squeaky clean on the NCAA radar, so I really don't think he has a shot here, though he might be a decent coach.
Finally, I must truly be insance for repeatedly hoping that any of KD's teams would actually ever turn a corner when they are STUCK IN A ROUND ROOM!!!
by tasser10 on
Dec 29, 2006 7:55 AM PST
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Yeah Neuheisel is a tough sell
But you're right, he really messed up Colorado but I'm not sure if he really did anything bad at UW (they fired him for doing a ncaa tourney bracket which the school compliance officer said he could)... I think they just wanted him gone because of what he did to the Buffs.
by greatgymnasticsschool on
Dec 29, 2006 6:50 PM PST
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Neuheisel
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Dec 31, 2006 5:53 PM PST
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