I am disappointed with...
...the casual use of the nickname "Southpaw Jesus" here. I really appreciate this blog - all the time and effort that you guys put into collecting excellent Bruin news and analysis for us to read. I'm also extremely pleased with Ben Olson's performance against Utah yesterday, and excited that his leadership and ability will make my beloved UCLA a true contender in the seasons to come. Please understand that this is not an attack on Bruins Nation, or on HomeBruin who came up with this nickname... but as a Christian, I feel that I should speak up about this nickname, which I find offensive.
The real Jesus walked on this earth two thousand years ago, claimed to be the Son of God, and validated this claim by raising Himself from the dead 3 days after He was nailed to the cross. He endured unwarranted persecution to pay the penalty for the sins of those who would put their faith in Him, offering them the gift of eternal life - that is why He is known as the Savior. With all due respect, Ben Olson is a highly heralded recruit who will bring success to Bruin football once again, but his deeds pale in comparison to the sacrifice that Jesus made. Please don't trivialize the Son of God.
I wouldn't be surprised if this comment draws mockery and insults, or even if it is censored. But I don't really mind - I'd just like to ask you fellow Bruins not to take the name of the true Savior in vain. I'm sure that even though Ben Olson's beliefs differ somewhat from my own, he would want you to do the same.
Thanks,
E.B.
UCLA class of 2008
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As an atheist, It doesn't bother me one way or the other. If BO can hang 5 TDs on SC you can call him Southpaw Harry Potter for all I care.
But I think it's probably a bit late to try to purge Christian-themed terms from football, and if the Catholics at Notre Dame are okay with Touchdown Jesus and Hail Marys, who am I to argue?
YH
class of 1996
by laertes on Sep 3, 2006 5:45 PM PDT 0 recs
Another add ...
I am truly sorry that using the term "Soutpaw Jesus" is offending castingnorth. But as you and DD have pointed out below it's a bit late to get worked up over this considering the millions Notre Dame and NBC has been making for years.
I am going to stick with this. This is supposed to be fun and that's what we are having.
by Nestor on
Sep 4, 2006 8:37 AM PDT
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The explanation for how the name came about was given earlier this summer and nothing further should be required. I took the explanation at face value and didn't see a problem.
by artybruin on
Sep 4, 2006 9:13 AM PDT
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I understand you completely...
Seriously, the nickname is all in good fun. I'm not a particularly religious person, so I have no idea how much the nickname is bothersome, nor would I ever use it to slight anyone's personal relationship with the big man upstairs. I'm very sorry you take offense to it. I really don't know what else to say.
by HomeBruin on Sep 3, 2006 5:48 PM PDT 0 recs
I hope you don't mind
As for your comment, I personally don't find offense in the nickname, but I appreciate your thoughts. My brother is a pastor, and I certainly try to be sensitive about these kinds of things. This one didn't set my internal alarm off, but that doesn't mean it doesn't bother others.
GO BRUINS.
by Menelaus on Sep 3, 2006 6:43 PM PDT 0 recs
Please know Castingnorth...
by bruinbabe2000 on Sep 3, 2006 7:30 PM PDT 0 recs
Sort of Agree
by boisebruin on Sep 3, 2006 9:31 PM PDT 0 recs
Not Religious
To set the record strait I bleed Purple and Gold (along with Blue and Gold) and have been a Laker fan my whole life. It is tough to give props to Larry Bird, but he does deserve them.
by MOlson on Sep 3, 2006 11:20 PM PDT 0 recs
Well I have to say...
I just think about these things, you know? Because if Jesus didn't come to earth to save sinners, then it really doesn't matter, and we can enjoy our fleeting lives here on this earth and just cease to exist. But if there is a God who loves us enough to offer us eternal JOY in His presence, and we go through life choosing to ignore Him, then I know it will be a huge regret for some of us in the future.
I know some people might cringe and accuse me of being preachy, but so many people get caught up in issues of the present without ever thinking of eternity. I totally used to scoff at the Bible, but after giving it a chance, I've seen how lucid and cohesive it is. If you don't believe me, read it for yourselves and see! Anyway, thank you all for allowing me to voice my views - I only desire the best for you, fellow Bruins.
That being said, it's totally up to you (BN moderators) whether you keep using the nickname or not - either way, I'll still be here keeping up with my Bruins!
E.B.
by castingnorth on Sep 4, 2006 12:16 AM PDT 0 recs
P.S.
by castingnorth on
Sep 4, 2006 12:30 AM PDT
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I understand the right to your opinion.....
Southpaw Jesus isn't even a derogitory nickname. It states the obvious, that he's left handed and it evokes him as a potential savior of UCLA fans.
What makes me curious is why you're here. You obviously want to make waves. You've descended upon us to scold us for what 90-99% of Bruin fans don't even find offensive. I can't imagine why you took the time to register to post this.
I suspect you're the first Notre Dame fan to show up here and talk trash.
BTW: Our first nickname for Ben was 'The Lefthanded Pope of Westwood' but that didn't have the snap of Southpaw Jesus.
by alcor805 on
Sep 4, 2006 2:19 PM PDT
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Ignorant
There is also the small matter of actually promoting Jesus by promoting the use of the nickname. Isnt that what BO's honorable mission was about anyway? More people knowing about Jesus, who he was, what he stood for??
Finally, there is no doubt whatsoever about whether anyone is confusing BO with the Jesus of the Bible. No one is. Just like no one confuses the Hail Mary with Mary of Magdalene, or the 'immaculate reception' with the birth of Jesus.
These nicks serve to reinforce the stories of the myths, legends, and histories that are religions, just like all stories ultimately do. This religious and political correctness is tiring.
by DumpDorrell on Sep 4, 2006 12:30 AM PDT 0 recs
I'm not really offended by it.
I've thought of Ben as the Southpaw Saviour (of our program)
by True Blue and Gold on Sep 4, 2006 1:08 AM PDT 0 recs
I agree, maybe someone should ask the man himself
I'm all for being sensitive to others religious and political views, as that is the same courtesy I would want for myself, but I'm afraid we are treading a slippery slope of religious and political sterilization in this country which DumpDorrell alluded to. It would be ironic that in the land of the free, we would not be able to speak our minds, no, not ironic, very sad. I pose this question that I certainly do not have the answer to: How much is too much PC?
by scittles on Sep 4, 2006 1:16 AM PDT 0 recs
Not a bad idea
As to your larger point, I'm not going to get too deep into the politic weeds, but I personally think that being offending is one of the most pointless of human responses. I can think of a rather good justification for the occassional value of virtually every other human reaction, including, e.g. rage; but offense serves no good purpose. Being offended is just an exercise in expending valuable mental energy and emotion to make yourself less happy over something that you have virtually no control over. I could spend a lifetime writing nasty letters and looking cross-ways at others because they've done something I perceive as offensive. I just don't think that's a great way to live.
As I step off the soap box...
by Menelaus on
Sep 4, 2006 7:35 AM PDT
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South Paw...
by bruinelder on Sep 4, 2006 12:07 PM PDT 0 recs
I just wanna say
Then I remembered, we are BRUINS and we respect the opinions and beliefs of others, especially if they are from our brothers and sisters in Blue and Gold.
GO BRUINS!
by guttylittlebruins on Sep 4, 2006 1:17 PM PDT 0 recs
Exactly
by HomeBruin on
Sep 4, 2006 2:33 PM PDT
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I agree with castingnorth...
Further, calling someone Jesus is much different than saying a "prayer" of "Hail Mary" (even in jest) or describing an actual artistic portrait of Jesus as "Touchdown Jesus." These are not even close. Even if others do use Jesus in actual nicknames, it certainly doesn't make it right.
Finally, the argument that millions of other people are called "Jesus" as a rationale makes no sense. In those cases, "Jesus" is just a name--not a reference to the Biblical Jesus. Conversely, "Southpaw Jesus" IS a direct reference to the Biblical Jesus.
All this being said, these are just my thoughts. It doesn't stop me from reading the great content on the blog because you don't throw out the baby with the bath water. I can disagree with the use of the nickname but that's something I have to deal with because it is not my blog. I know the intent is certainly not to offend and the use is in good fun. However, I did want to give the other side of the argument.
UCLA '93
by georgiabruin on Sep 4, 2006 3:01 PM PDT 0 recs
Point Taken.....But I still love the nickname.
by alcor805 on Sep 4, 2006 3:10 PM PDT 0 recs
If those things are true
by scittles on
Sep 4, 2006 3:52 PM PDT
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Holy Macro
by Nestor on
Sep 4, 2006 4:14 PM PDT
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Hey
That is very incorrect. When you see someone named Jesus, it's a safe bet that their parents named him after Jesus Christ.
by True Blue and Gold on Sep 4, 2006 3:40 PM PDT 0 recs
Okay, I've been sucked back into this argument
As far as I know, there is only one. His name is Jesus. So how is one okay, but not the other?
Again, sorry if the name offends anybody, it was never my intent. I feel like quite the asshole.
by HomeBruin on Sep 4, 2006 3:51 PM PDT 0 recs
HomeBruin You Are NOT an asshole.
Jim Murray once said 'Rickey Henderson had a strike zone the size of Hitler's heart.' To most people this is funny. To about 20% of people (the ones who aren't paying attention) it's just offensive to interject a Hitler reference into a sports conversation.
by alcor805 on Sep 4, 2006 4:10 PM PDT 0 recs
Reminds me
by laertes on
Sep 4, 2006 10:54 PM PDT
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Please
Anyway, it seems like the case is closed, and that's fine with me. Georgiabruin made a good point - you don't throw the baby out with the bath water, and this won't affect my choice to come back to this site to read up on UCLA sports. I'm sorry that my thoughts angered at least one of you, but no one forced you to read them. As for me, I will choose to look past the nickname "Southpaw Jesus", and I won't be bothered if you choose to do the same with what I have posted here.
Lastly... HomeBruin, please don't feel like an "a-hole" on account of me. I totally understand that you didn't mean to offend anyone when you came up with the nickname, and I encourage you to go with your own convictions. Besides, I am in no position to judge a brother, because I've been guilty in my own ways before.
God bless you guys (even if you don't believe in Him).
by castingnorth on Sep 4, 2006 7:38 PM PDT 0 recs
Castingnorth
I respect everybody's spirituality. We're all family here.
by HomeBruin on
Sep 4, 2006 7:44 PM PDT
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asdf
Oh yeah? As a card-carrying atheist, I will have to reply to your provocative comment with...
Go Bruins :-)
by laertes on
Sep 4, 2006 7:58 PM PDT
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Alcor brings up a great point
He also brings up a great point when he says that hyperbole is a big part of sports. I remember one time Chick Hearn said that "The Lord and all of his diciples could not beat the Los Angeles Lakers" lol.
And dude, castingnorth, Big Ben is cool with it so you should just drop it.
Alright, Ben devoted two years of his life to spreading Christ's message, if he likes it then there is no use complaining about it.
by True Blue and Gold on Sep 4, 2006 8:06 PM PDT 0 recs















