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Just like the Fair and Balanced crew over at FSN are still preaching to 29-31 percent of the nation how there still may be WMDs somewhere in Iraq, the Trojan Times is still working OT to convince the average, uninformed sports fans that somehow there is gap closing going on between the basketball programs of UCLA and Southern Cal.

Today it is Robyn Norwood's turn to pimp a basketball program, which hasn't sniffed the NCAA tourney in half a decade, and elevate it to the level of Duke, North Carolinas of the world. Ms. Norwood writes up an article saying somehow the gap between UCLA and Southern California basketball program is closing despite the fact this year Trojans lost to UCLA in their brand new gym against a Bruin squad that was playing without its second leading scorer. Riddle me this. How can you claim a program is closing gap with the defending champion of the conference after it lost to the same program it beat on its home floor last year?

Moreover to argue the point that Timmeh is leading some kind of gap closure between Southern Cal and UCLA basketball program, one would have to point to facts there must have been a giant gap between UCLA and Southern Cal basketball prior to Timmeh took it over. That is of course not true. In fact Lavin flushed down the UCLA program so far down the toilet that at times it even fell behind Bibby's program. In fact from 1999-00 to 2003-04, Southern Cal was actually 6-4 against UCLA, winning 2 less conference games than UCLA.

If anything, Howland has actually come in and reopen the gap between UCLA and Southern Cal, if not UCLA and rest of the Pac-10 conference. Sure Howland has done it with UCLA's incomparable tradition at his disposal. But he has also built a program the right way by bringing in the perfect mix of elite and solid (academically grounded) athletes, who have bought into the team first concept from the get go. By contrast it is obvious Timmeh is so desperate to close the gap, he is doing it with players who are academically challenged, and have questionable baggage, as a result of which are not really being recruited by any one else except for Bob Huggins of the world.

And yet you have to read rubbish from the Trojan Times about how Timmeh and Southern Cal is closing some kind of gap (when it is actually being widened) by pointing to some kind of moral victory (over a team playing without its second leading scorer) as sign of progress, when the same team actually won the previous before.

For Robyn Norwood to even write this article, one would think she is assuming Southern Cal will finished ranked not only this season, but for next 5-6 seasons, and will win the conference at least once and advance to the Final-4 in next 5 or 6 years. Yet we are looking at a program which may lose Young and Pruitt to pros (both of them had serious academic issues in past), and there are questions about an academically challenged 21 year old freshmen (who by his own admission took years to qualify for a D-1 institution of higher learning of the caliber of Southern Cal) who may put his name in the draft as well. I mean there is no question Timmeh is going the Bob Huggins route of program building, and we have all seen how that turned out in Cincinnati (don't expect Trojan fans to know about it though considering they are clueless about this game). Where is Norwood getting her facts before writing up her articles?

Like I mentioned whatever. I am sure Coach Howland and his team will never take any opponent lightly and they will always go out of their way to make sure they give proper respect to every team. However, that doesn't mean we should stop from pointing out the obvious when we have to read such nonsense in the main newspaper of our home town.

Only in the eyes of a fair and balanced news sources like the Trojan Times and the delusional, clueless Trojan fan base (who don't know anything about this game) going from winning to losing can be considered a sign of progress, a move towards the right direction. Up is down. Down is up.

GO BRUINS.

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Talking out of both sides of their mouth
That actually came to my mind when I first read it. How can they simultaneously pimp SUC's supposedly stellar record against us at their place, which they repeatedly mentioned during the telecast, and then at the same time use a LOSS to show that the "gap is closing"? No, if the gap was closing, then shouldn't there be tangible progress toward that end? And considering that they have recently had a winning record against us in their gym, then the only way to do that would be another WIN.

by Tydides on Jan 15, 2007 10:50 AM PST reply actions  

What was also interesting ...
I am sure you guys noticed Norwood had the Trojan beat writer Ben Bolch contribute to her article. There was nothing whatsoever from the writers covering the UCLA beat for Trojan times.

In fact all week the Trojan beat writer Bolch covered both the UCLA and Southern Cal. Which begs the question will the Trojan Times have Diane Pucin or whoever they designate as the UCLA beat writer cover both the Southern Cal and UCLA beat leading up the game at Pauley?  Will there be followup should UCLA goes on to give these tools a beat down at Pauley?

We are not going to hold our breath. In fact I didn't really want to do this post. It's becoming so obvious what they are doing carrying the water for Heritage Hall propoganda machine.

The question is wtf will the UCLA PR department do to rebut all these ridiculous stories? Are they working on these idiot writers in the background?

Anyways ... it's just pathetic what the Trojan Times have turned into. Even for them the asskissing has reached a historic level.

by Nestor on Jan 15, 2007 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

I think we're owed about a dozen articles
about how our football program is now superior to southern cal's because we actually BEAT THEM ON THE FIELD this year. I mean, as long as we're grasping at straws, might as well take the ridiculous and unfounded assertions to a new level. I'm sure none of us can possibly believe that our football program is superior to southern cal's (except for off the field), but to hear these tools talk about a moral victory (read: loss) as some sort of positive sign, well what does that make 13-9? If a moral victory is a sign of "gap closing" then 13-9 must have been the shot heard round the world, signaling UCLA's dominance on the LA football scene for years to come.

by Tydides on Jan 15, 2007 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

The fundamental difference
what's really interesting is how these lapdogs in LA's traditonal media and the dittoheads in Trojan fan base are going out of their way to compare UCLA football v. Southern Cal hoops. Of course there is no comparison between a program which as recently as just two years ago won 10 games and actually owns the current scoreboard (despite being coached by a clueless head coach) while the otherone still is struggling to even get ranked in top-25 and still cannot beat its rival (which it did in recent years) on their home floor despite playing against a team without its second best player.

UCLA football won the conference at least twice in the 90s, and will probably win it once or twice (with or without Dorrell) in 00s, a decade which arguably has been the worst in the history of UCLA football. There is just no comparison. Its not close.

Still you see so much bullshit coming out of the traditional media and their loud mouths trying to create an alternate reality devoid of facts.

Just pathetic.

by Nestor on Jan 15, 2007 11:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Maybe another beatdown in Pauley
will mean even bigger progress for Timmeh.  Clearly, losing to us highlights their "gap-closing".  Who are we to deny them progress?

by stevenucla on Jan 15, 2007 10:56 AM PST reply actions  

It sounds like
a "moral victory" will suffice.....

by sausmaf on Jan 15, 2007 10:57 AM PST reply actions  

SC
I may be in the minority, but  do believe SC has improved. I will admit, after reading these posts, that whether they are closing the  gap is another matter. I agree with BH that they may indeed go to the NCAA's this year. Was not aware of the talented Freshman, Taj Gibson(all 21 years worth.... sure he didn't take a Mormon mission??),and the other academic issues.

The LAT has gone from SC prone, in my earlier years, to UCLA prone (if you can believe it) in the 80's, back to complete SC honks. The only thing that stinks more are the national BB ratings that came out today showing UNC, despite a loss, still #1, and the Bruins dropping 4 slots on one road loss against a real good team.
Bill

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by Mensgym on Jan 15, 2007 12:52 PM PST reply actions  

I don't think you can doubt they're improved
but improved over WHAT? This was a team that failed to make the NIT last year. There is nowhere to go but up. Meanwhile, we have a team that has already made that leap, from no postseason to last year's NCAA title game, and all indications are that we are prepared to defend our position atop the conference, yet the "big story" is that a team that couldn't make the NIT last year is now in the middle of the Pac 10 standings. Big F'n Deal.

by Tydides on Jan 15, 2007 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

SC is improving, but UCLA STILL better...
I wish the Times would treat the Bruins with the respect it deserves.

In basketball, WE are the story, NOT $C.

MIM

by Meriones on Jan 15, 2007 12:59 PM PST reply actions  

Why waste your time with the fishwrap?
Do you actually care what sc and its apologists have to say about anything?  Would you believe it more if they and their apologists admitted that they lost, that a moral victory that is actually a loss is still a loss, and that the gap is getting wider?  Do you need OJ to confess that he did it before knowing that in fact he did it?

I have been without the times for a quarter of a century, and don't miss it.  

Our Bball program is what it is.  sc's is what it is.  Their program never has and never will measure up to ours, no matter how much the intellectual giants for the MSM wish it were otherwise.

So who cares when the trOJan times gets it wrong?

by Fox 71 on Jan 15, 2007 2:04 PM PST reply actions  

SC and LAT
I may have to follow Fox 71 and his lack of LAT practice. Not much to recommend it these days, from the front page to the Sports page. And BTW, I do believe OJ did it, in spite of the jury deliberations...:>)
BillSouthBay

by Mensgym on Jan 15, 2007 2:46 PM PST reply actions  

USC
is "making progress", "closing the gap", "moral victory" ????

Wow, sounds like 'KD speak' to me!!

by godblesstyus95 on Jan 15, 2007 4:17 PM PST reply actions  

actually worse than KD
at least a KD coached team won a game that knocked our rival in their full strength from a national championship game ... while Timmeh ...

by Nestor on Jan 15, 2007 5:30 PM PST up reply actions  

that's the thing
The Trojan basketball team looked good, but our program under Howland is looking great.  The gap isn't closing because both teams are improving and Howland is simply a better coach than Tim Floyd.  I noticed that the Trojan bench had only two players who got time and that's going to hurt them at Pauley, especially when Shipp is back.  If we land the Wear Twins for 09 and Holiday for 08, the gap widens even more.

by bruin95 on Jan 18, 2007 8:12 AM PST reply actions  

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