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Typhoid Terry Is Whining About Blogs

Typhoid Terry is whining about the interwebs:

Donahue, who recruited Dorrell to play wide receiver for the Bruins out of Helix High in San Diego, said getting blasted by critics is part of the college football coaching business -- only it's harsher now than during his days.

"With the Internet, blogs, chat rooms, talk radio, all that stuff, as a coach you are just going to get it if you're not near perfect," Donahue said. "When I was coaching, the world wasn't as complicated. Now, anybody could put up a website and there you go. Coaches are certainly susceptible to being hammered." […]

Donahue left Dorrell a message on his cellphone Saturday after UCLA defeated California at the Rose Bowl, 30-21.

That was a good one for the Bruins, but there have been a couple of clinkers too. As for UCLA's loss to Notre Dame, Donahue said that's easy to explain.

"When you're down to your third quarterback, not many teams are going to look good," he said.

By the way, Dorrell is 3-2 against Cal. Donahue was 15-5 against Cal and won 14 straight from 1976 to 1989.
Well there is not much use writing a huge post rebutting Donahue’s asinine arguments. He does the job for us by making himself look like a disingenuous and insincere moron by using the QB excuse for the disgraceful loss against Notre Dame. Of course Donahue will never talk about facts and put this season and the expectations around it in context, given what has take place in last 4 + seasons.

As a UCLA football fan who also happens to be a huge Niner fan I always thought of Donahue as a big joke. Donahue played a huge part in the total destruction of my Niners.

But I always thought he was a mediocre football coach at best in Westwood who never got the best out of blue chip talents the UCLA football program stockpiled during the 80s. He was able to stick around Westwood for so long back in the 80s and 90s, because back then we Bruin fans did not have avenues to express the latent frustrations we were experiencing from constant chokes and let downs of the Donahue coached football teams.

Sure we had multiple Rose Bowl wins in the early 80s. However, under his watch the football program slummed away in the gutter of mediocrity following the departure of Aikman, and never came out of it until Number 18 and Toledo showed us the true potential of UCLA football in the late 90s.

Sure Donahue took the Bruins to the Rose Bowl in 94, and ended with a 5 game winning streaking against SCumbags from cross town, people still seem to forget he was responsible for the incredible letdown of hugely favored Bruin football team experience against the Badgers at our home turn back in 94. Not only that, Donahue was an insecure head coach who was never confident in his abilities. So much so he did not have the balls to promote Neuhisel from wide-receivers coach to OC, when Homer Smith left the OC position for the second time in 1994, right after the Rose Bowl. Instead of promoting Neuhisel, Donahue decided to hire Bob Toledo, a loser OC from R.C. Slocum's Texas A&M program, who was never going to be a threat to TD, unlike Neuhisel.

Anyways, I said I was not going to write a long post about this. I don’t need to rehash Dorrell’s record to show how Donahue sounds like a total clown.

It’s not surprising to me that he can make such ignorant comments making Dorrell look like some kind of "victim" (who is getting paid almost a million dollars year as one of the worst coaches in college football). He has no idea about accountability. He never had to face the expectations of alums and students during the pre internet era in Westwood, as a result of which he never was held accountable for all those underachieving years in Westwood. His ways didn’t work in San Francisco, after he effectively drove one of the gold franchises in the NFL off the cliff. Niner fans despised Donhue so much that he was chased out of the Bay Area with the title of "Typhoid Terry."

And now here he is desperately trying to save his legacy by speaking up on behalf f his protégée, who has turned out to be a bumbling, stumbling less than mediocre clown, whose pathetic record makes an average coach like him (a poor man’s version of Lloyd Carr) look good.

Thank God for the internets. It’s obvious our voices are being heard and these clowns are now whining about the prospect of being held accountable. It's the idea of accountability that is making the world of losers like Donahue "complicated."

GO BRUINS.

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I think he meant to say
"With the Internet, blogs, chat rooms, talk radio, all that stuff, as a coach you would never have to be held accountable for doing a bad job and destroying pro football franchises."

Why did you have to destroy my beloved 49ers, you jackass??

GO BRUINS. HOOK 'EM HORNS (well, except on Dec. 2).

by uclawarren on Oct 25, 2007 8:30 AM PDT reply actions  

I'm a Bruins-49er as well
I thought he was ok as our coach...not great but not terrible...waaay too conservative though.

As GM, ugh, what a disatster...I totally agree that he killed the niners.

by RealisticBruinFan on Oct 25, 2007 9:16 AM PDT reply actions  

Yeah, Donahue was way too conservative, and I
always thought he stayed about 5 years too long.  I thought he should have opened up the offense more when he had Aikman.  Aikman should have been a real Heisman contender and with him the Bruins should have really been challenging for the NC.  Donahue was always content to try to win just the Pac-10 title.  

Except for ending his career with starting the win streak against the Toejams, his last few seasons were not as remarkble as they could have been.

Adn at this point, CTS makes Donahue look like a coaching genius.

by bruinhawk on Oct 25, 2007 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Me 3
The 9-ers Org under DeBartolo was truly the most dignified, classy and respected name in Football... And NOW look.

There's always been a long, proud line running up I-5 from Westwood to SF -- just as there's also been a long, nasty connection between South Central and Oakland -- both organizations have the same leadership, rep and ownership.

That goes to show you, you can teach anything in a classroom except class.

GO BRUIN BLUE.

by theREAL_LOGAN5 on Oct 25, 2007 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

TD thinks as long as you play it safe
you can't be blamed for your results. That is the philosophy of losers.
"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"

by silverlakebruin on Oct 25, 2007 9:44 AM PDT reply actions  

Exactly!
He wants to win by risking as little as possible so that he can't be blamed for losing. It's like the guy who won't double down in blackjack and plays $5 each time no matter what. Ain't gonna win big, ain't gonna lose big. At least Toledo played with fire and mastered it for a stretch.

by tasser10 on Oct 25, 2007 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Homer Smith years
made Donahue football watchable.

Except for a highlight here and there by virtue of the athletic talent of a player, KD football is basically unwatchable.

And KD's post-game demeanor is plain disgusting.  After horrific losses:  "I sleep well"..."It is what it is."  After ugly wins:  "I answered the bell"

by bluegold on Oct 25, 2007 9:58 AM PDT reply actions  

Homer Smith
Was Donahue's DeWayne Walker I think except those guys went to some Rose Bowls. Dorrell and Walker, I don't need to go there.

I always thought Donahue was a loser. I still remember how in 1992 with something like a min left and UCLA way behind (against Arizona) Donahue decided to kick FG to keep a record scoring streak alive. And then the following week we got shut out.

Donahue was a loser/perennial underachiever. And just like KD he never took responsibility for his shortcomings.

by bluestreet on Oct 25, 2007 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

TD was always content to make a run at the PAC-10
title.  And even with that IIRC twice he didn't even win the conference outright in the mid-eighties but backed in due to the outcome of ASU/AZ games.

Also, again IIRC in the eighties, the Bruins, ranked #2 and playing a difficult game at Arizona, had just learned at half time that #1 Alabama had just been upset.

With the Bruins poised to be #1, As the story goes, Donahue told the team before starting the 2nd Half something like "Don't go out there and lose", which is exactly what the Bruins did.

That evidently was Donahue's typical pep talk to motivate his teams.  How inspirational!

by bruinhawk on Oct 25, 2007 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not much different than
Dorrell telling the guys:

"If you forget what the hell you are doing out there, just look at your pretty rubber bracelets!"

Somebody wake me when we get a real coach.

by Barnes2JJ on Oct 25, 2007 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Abolutely , I hope you're emulating CTS and
sleeping well at night : ), you should be well rested by the time a real coach arrives.

by bruinhawk on Oct 25, 2007 10:40 AM PDT reply actions  

Only one thing to add to these comments
I never liked the 49ers going back to the days of John Brodie, so I was glad to see TD screw them up.

Bruinhawk hit the nail on the head.  TD wants CTS to stay, because only CTS could make TD look good.

by Fox 71 on Oct 25, 2007 11:03 AM PDT reply actions  

It could be the fires
I'm having one hell of a time breathing and doing any physical exercise right now because of all the smoke. Then again, I also have asthma and allergies.

That's not to say that bad practices are something we haven't seen before.

by BruinFan1 on Oct 25, 2007 12:52 PM PDT reply actions  

Nevermind
I just found this quote:

"We really took our time through practice," said coach Karl Dorrell, noting that the team "took a lot more water breaks, because the air quality is not really good right now."

Good to hear it. The air is really nasty out here. Here's some perspective - I live in Hermosa Beach, maybe 3/4 of a mile from the beach. I can see the ocean from my apartment. I haven't been able to see it for 3 days. There's just this nasty brown, grayish haze over everything.

by BruinFan1 on Oct 25, 2007 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

"When your down to your third quarterback
you aren't going to look very good"

Good point TD. This is especially true if you decide not to run the ball against one of the worst run defenses in the country, and instead think it is smarter to let a guy who has never thrown a pass in a game try to carry the team.

"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"

by silverlakebruin on Oct 25, 2007 2:14 PM PDT reply actions  

Boggles
That game still has me talking to myself. You would think after the 2nd interception they would have changed things and went to the run. Not this coaching staff, they are so ahead of the game that they knew if they kept passing, ND would be fooled.....Genius.

by artybruin on Oct 25, 2007 2:22 PM PDT reply actions  

Perhaps TD forgot about 1993
when his very own FIFTH string QB, John Barnes, led us to a victory over a favored SUC team.  Then again, it was probably just a matter of Donohue answering the bell.  

by bornagainbruin on Oct 25, 2007 2:23 PM PDT reply actions  

well, almost remembered
Barnes to Stokes was '92.  '93 was a Rose Bowl year, a near win over Nebraska (Skip Hicks got hurt in the second half - he was having a banner day up til then), a win over a good UW team after spotting them an early lead,  the second of eight in a row over U$C (thanks for the clinching pick, Marvin Goodwin), and then a hiccup in Pasadena against Wisconsin - the year of  Angelo Mazzone's miraculous ticket scalpa-palooza.

'92 was a pair of three game win-streaks sandwiching a 5 game losing streak - all of which was made possible by losing Wayne-o Cook to a knee inj in game 3, and trying to use Jim Bonds at QB - perhaps the only modern UCLA QB slower out of the pocket than BO)

The Mad Bruin

by lostnacfgop on Oct 25, 2007 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think that game was a case of TD trying to
muffle the bell.  IIRC TD was forced to use JB to start and had no other viable choice, and JB, I think was a walk-on, who, decided, against TD's will, to call audibles on the two long TD passes to Stokes when he saw how the 'SC defense was set.

Had it been up to TD those calls would have been runs and we probably would have lost by two TDs to 'SC.

And, unlike MBT starting against ND, Barnes was a senior and had had prior experience to temper his start against USC.  In an earler game in '93 he threw a key interception and TD was quick to pull him and not use him for servaral games after that.

TD usually loathed gambling in a game and didn't want his team exposed to a QB who made bad decisions, and thus reflect on his coaching.

With CTS, he wouldn't hesitate to use an ill-prepared and inexperienced freshman QB (while ignoring a player who already has been a QB in the system for two years), allow him to be used in ill-advised play calling, and then throw him under the bus when the inevitable bad things happen, so as not to reflect on HIS coaching.
 

by bruinhawk on Oct 25, 2007 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

As a Mets fan...
I have seen many a player struggle and implode in NY only to flourish and have a strong career somewhere else (exhibit A: Kaz Matsui, who ripped apart the NL in the playoffs). So I definitely sympathize with the idea that the fans and pundits can put a ton of pressure on a team, coaches, players. Way too much pressure. And the invention of blogs is like the invention of sports radio, it just kicks it up a notch.

HOWEVER. The fact of the matter is that if Dorrell's teams came in prepared, played tough, smart football, played most games like they did against USC, Dorrell's job would be safe and UCLA would in all likelihood be in the top 5 BCS right now. There is no reason why this team should not be 6-0 right now.

After the USC game people really did give Dorrell his props, even on hostile blogs like this one, and many of us may have thought it was a turning point. There weren't really many people calling for his head after that game. Then they played Florida State.

The point is, if Dorrell was doing his job, people wouldn't be calling for his departure.

by njbruin on Oct 25, 2007 3:04 PM PDT reply actions  

TD and the scoring streak
All you need to know is when TD kicked a field goal at Arizona in a 30 point loss to keep his ridiculous scoring streak (which I think ended the following week)...TD=KD (minus Rose Bowls)...By the way has it been two decades since the firm of TD/KD (with a short interval for the partner BT) won a Rose Bowl GAme on Jan 1???

by Gary72 on Oct 25, 2007 3:08 PM PDT reply actions  

Accountability
Nestor you make a very good point that ties together several threads we've been posting on the relationship between the MSM and the athletic department and teams they cover.

There would be no organized heat on KD IF the dissemination of ideas was controlled by the MSM.

We have exposed that cozy relationship and forced people like Dohn to show who they really are and where their thumbs are on the scale.

Some will say it is bad or unfair to put this extra pressure on a coach. Their argument is that anyone with a computer can claim instant "expertise" or "inside information" and fire away.

The answer to that is twofold. First, being paid by the MSM is not necessarily a guaranty of expertise; all reporters can take a press release and spout the party line or refuse to ask hard questions because they fear being pulled away from athletic department  trough that feeds them. And, second,  I think there is more rigorous debate and questoining on the good blogs -- the sifting and winnowing that leads to the truth -- than their is in the MSM; blog posters face more heat, challenge and questioning than faced by the MSM reporters

In the end, it depends on the blog. I don't visit many others. On the occcaisions where I've gone to some of the UCLA places, I've not seen the kind of fact based reporting or careful editorial work I see here. In that sense, they are more like the MSM than they will admit being.

But, TD, if we are making the UCLA sports world more accountable -- that's good, not bad.

sjh

PS. The truth is that we are not always in this "investigative", editorial hard driving mode. Things are really different here when FB season is over and BB season starts. Give us a BH in football, and this will be a great place -- full of positive posts the use of statistics and analysis to argue why we should be ranked No. 1 and worshipped.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Oct 25, 2007 3:54 PM PDT reply actions  

"Run, Run, Pass" From TD to KD...
...THAT legacy continues.
Thanks, guys.

by class1984 on Oct 25, 2007 4:10 PM PDT reply actions  

KD must have learned from TD to love
his FG kickers too!  TD's philosophy of "why gamble for a TD when a sure FG will do" has also passed down.

by bruinhawk on Oct 25, 2007 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was even worse...
In most cases, it wasn't just run-run-pass, we actually were in the stands cheering "up the middle-up the middle-paaaass-punt".
The few times TD ran a sweep, he inevitably went to the short side of the field.
Bob O. (Signholder #3)

by TuneMan7 on Oct 26, 2007 6:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know where to put this
so I'll put it here.

Greg Vanney, a former Bruin now playing for DC United of MLS opened up the MLS Cup Playoffs tonight on ESPN2 and to introduce the starting lineup, each player said their name and where they're from. When it was Vanney's turn he said, "Greg Vanney, UCLA Bruins, 100 National Championships." I thought it was pretty cool that he said UCLA and not where he's from then added in the 100 national titles. Love the Bruin pride.

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Oct 25, 2007 6:06 PM PDT reply actions  

OT- Kind of
With a little over 4 minutes to go, up 10-0, Virginia Tech punted from its own 29 instead of taking the 3 points.  While a 10 point lead and a 13 point lead are both two possession games, not having those three points means that BC only needs a TD and a FG to tie.

Because of the punt, Boston College started on its own 8 yard line.  It took BC two plays to make up for the 21 yard punt, and six plays to reach the Virginia Tech 16.  After a few plays they scored a TD and now trail by three.

After recovering the onside kick, BC has gone 40 yards in three plays and is definitely within range of a FG with a chance at the go-ahead TD.

By trying to play field position the Virginia Tech coach may have thrown away the game.

by SuperBruinMan on Oct 25, 2007 8:04 PM PDT reply actions  

Not just the field position game
but he went to the dreaded prevent defense as well.
Bob O. (Signholder #3)

by TuneMan7 on Oct 26, 2007 6:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

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