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Total Unity In The Bruin Blogosphere

Here is another silver lining to Saturday's debacle at the Rose Bowl. For first time I can remember, there is total unity in the greater Bruin blogosphere wrt to the failed regime of Karl Dorrell.

I mean, I am sure all of you guys know by now where DumpDorrell.com and BruinsNation stand when it comes to Karl Dorrell. :-) But now we have total unity across the spectrum. Here are reactions from the rest of our peers in the Bruin blogosphere (who are not associated with any traditional media outlets) to the Saturday night's massacre at the Rose Bowl.

Let's lead off with Gilbert at Obscure Sports Quarterly, who calls out Dorrell's joke of a program as `the worst 4-2 team in the country:

I know UCLA is 4-2, and to the uninformed fan, that looks good. But none of the wins are against good teams (and UCLA played horrible in all of them). Both of the losses were horrendous, embarrassing losses that made UCLA football a laughingstock. (Read my thoughts on the Utah debacle here).

If UCLA's not the worst 4-2 team in the country, I don't know who is. What's scary is the tough games on the schedule are still remaining (Cal, Oregon, Arizona State, USC).

Notre Dame is now 1-5. While most of the country has been laughing at them for being a laughingstock, they will now laugh at UCLA for losing to Notre Dame.

Pathetic.

If this post sounded incoherent, it's because these embarrassing losses still hurt, even when you get used to them and expect them to happen.
And then go over to Jason at What's Bruin, Dawg, who wasted no time in expressing his disgust at the alleged offensive `genius' posing as our head coach (emphasis Jason's):
I am frankly amazed we were even able to defeat Stanford 45-17 to open the season. We look that pathetic. We have gotten worse EVERY. SINGLE. WEEK. We are a team without an offensive identity, led by a coach who supposedly is an offensive 'genius'.

I am sick and tired of hearing about how we're going to 'learn from this loss'. It's readily apparent, five years into this experiment, that we have learned absolutely jack shit.
Meanwhile, in Chicago, Seitz (who similar to Gilbert was also reeling from his Halos' collapse), called out the Sleeping Beauty as the "dumbest person on the face of the earth":
Karl Dorrell may be the dumbest person on the face of the earth. What kind of idiot takes a freshman, walk-on QB and 1) makes him go with an empty backfield on 4th and 1, and 2) makes him throw for a first down on 3rd and 6 from his own five yard line against a team that is pretty pathetic, and could not move the ball on offense? He should have been fired right after that play.
Hey, I have no disagreement with that sentiment. Even CPBruinFan at Bruin Roar, who to his credit has been biting his lip, couldn't hold out any longer as he is now openly dreaming of a "regime change":
I guess that is my silver lining tonight: our defeat won't be the lead story on Sports Center. Yes, that is sad and pathetic, but I don't care. It is about the only thing I have left as a fan at this point. If the Bruins aren't going to win, well dammit, the Trojans better lose. So thank you Stanford, you at least made tonight somewhat tolerable. Now, I'm going to go finish the rest of my beers and dream of regime change in the off season.
Ryan Young, a UCLA alum who blogs on the LAist, on how DG cannot allow the current state of affairs to continue:
Perhaps the most telling sign of the current state of affairs was the fan response in the early stages of the game when everyone still thought that the Bruins would win. There were a number of Irish fans sitting in my section (and in every other section) and despite their team’s 0-5 debacle of a season to that point and poor execution on the field, they still conveyed optimism and enthusiasm because they’re excited about the direction that Charlie Weis has the program headed in the right direction. Contrast that to the Bruin fans, who were groaning after every bad play, expecting something bad to happen because that’s what seems to happen to this team under Dorrell, despite a seemingly lofty 4-1 record. There is no confidence in the direction of the program, only the expectation that things are going to get worse. How can this be allowed to continue?

Now the big question is whether the athletic department, which supposedly loves Karl, has the stones to pull the trigger (and if you want to encourage them, AD Dan Guerrero’s email is dguerrero@athletics.ucla.edu). It may cost them this stellar recruiting class that Dorrell is bringing in, and it will cost a lot of money to buyout some contracts. But you know what, if someone doesn’t know how to drive a car, it’s not going to matter whether he has a Ferrari or he has a Kia. The car is still not going to go anywhere. It’s time to find someone that’s got his drivers license, even if his car his only a Camry.
And I will end with this note from Insomniac Lounge, another UCLA alum who is looking at the silver lining declaring UCLA football fans as "the big winners" from Saturday:
Without a doubt, the big winners this weekend were UCLA football fans. Sure, right now they might be filled with anger and shame, but that embarrassing, pathetic loss to Notre Dame was actually a blessing for their program. That defeat combined with USC's loss erased any possibility that Karl Dorrell could save his job beyond this season. With Dorrell, the program was destined for perpetual mediocrity. At least now, there's hope for the future. Message to Chris Peterson: I'm sure you're happy at Boise State, but UCLA isn't a bad place to be either. Ok, the Rose Bowl doesn't come with blue turf, but on the plus side, the campus is just a few miles down Sunset from the Church of Scientology headquarters. Think about it. What would Xenu do???

It would be a convenient excuse for Karl Dorrell to highlight the fact that he was playing the majority of the Notre Dame game with his 3rd string QB, a walk-on freshman with little experience (or discernible talent). Unfortunately for Captain Karl, Stanford managed to beat #2 USC in the LA Coliseum with a sophomore QB, Tavita Pritchard. Pritchard had only thrown three collegiate passes entering the game, and yet Jim Harbaugh was able to coach him up to the extent that he pulled off the greatest upset in college football history (at least in terms of point spreads). For any UCLA fans reading this blog, "coaching" is a term used in sports to describe the development of skills under the tutelage of a team leader or coach. I know it's been a foreign concept around this time of year in Westwood, but believe it or not, other programs actually perform this miracle with regularity.
I will leave you all with this.

Just imagine next season. We are going to be enjoying a new football season, hopefully under a brand new competent coach, who will slowly rebuild our program, while we get to watch the clowns from South Central stuck in a quagmire with a glorified substitute teacher, who they will not be able to fire because of the "success" he built upon a pile of scandals. It is going to be fun to watch those cowardly losers devoid of any morals go through their slow, painful fall.

Better days are ahead of us. Meanwhile, it is comforting now for the first time the entire Bruin Nation is unified, together in demand for a total change at the top of our football program.

GO BRUINS.

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I stood up at the game and started chanting Dump Dorrel! Dump Dorrel! and by god I began to hear an echo, an echo that must grow to a roar.  If Dorrel can win the Pac-10 I'd give him another year. But we all know that were looking at .500 at best.  The worst part of it is that it's the least exciting brand of football I've ever seen.  The best way to force DG's hand is to stay away from the Rose Bowl.  Go Bruins!

by BruinAl on Oct 9, 2007 4:57 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

He Has to Go No Matter What
Sorry, but every time I see someone say that winning the Pac 10 SHOULD protect KD from firing, I will chant my mantra:

You cannot lose to Utah and ND and keep your job. If you can win the hard games, you must win the easy games.

If you can go undefeated in the Pac 10, you should be undefeated in all games -- especially Utah and ND.

Our goal was to have a CONSISTENTLY excellent team. We do not have that.

Please, don't concede he keeps his job if we win the Pac 10.

And, don't forget we may win it with 4 overall losses. It's possible that the Pac 10 champ will have 2 L's.

Mantra over.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Oct 9, 2007 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No way no how
First, in order to win the PAC 10, he'd have to beat Cal, UO, and Southern Cal. Ain't happening.

However, by some freakish Lavinian chance that he does manage to back into a PAC 10 championship, Dorrell's used up all of his cahnces and good will.

A change needs to be made regardless of what happens this season.

by Ajax on Oct 9, 2007 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Too Late
Even if UCLA does win the Pac-10 this year, which I seriously doubt will happen, Dorrell has got to go.  We've seen too many instances of insanely stupid coaching to allow him to stay on here.

by bruin8uclap on Oct 9, 2007 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dec. 3rd, 2007
Will be the end of a slow and painful almost 5 year era in Westwood.  The Monday following the SC game. Who else agrees?

by TheStick on Oct 9, 2007 5:21 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

How about the Wednesday following today?
What has CTS done to deserve to keep his job one more minute?  

What benefit accrues to anyone - CTS himself, the team, the other coaches, the fans, the alumni - if he remains as head coach for one more minute?  

How is the team any better with CTS remaining as head coach for one more minute?

Is there any other context in the world in which this sort of performance would not long since have resulted in job termination?

When those questions can be answered, then I'll maybe be able to understand why we should wait until the end of the season to fire this man.  (Don't tell me about recruits - that thesis will not fly.  Don't tell me "you can't do that."  I believe the Blogosphere made it clear that Columbus would sail over the edge of the world.)

by Fox 71 on Oct 9, 2007 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think he should've been fired a loooong time ago
but i'm just saying i think that's when they will fire him.  DG would never have the cajones to fire a coach mid-season.  Anytime is good for me.  It would show that Football to the UCLA Athletic Department is important enough to clean up the mess they created by hiring him in the first place.

by TheStick on Oct 10, 2007 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It would be consistent
with how DG dealt with Toledo and Lavin.

by bruinhoo on Oct 9, 2007 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why the delay
Any delay after the end of the ND game is inexcusable for DG to allow KD to have the responsibility of those football players. Get him out!!!
BillSouthBay

by Mensgym on Oct 9, 2007 5:48 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Consensus
It's good to see.

It's just too bad that it took 4+ years and humiliating losses to Fresno State, Wyoming, Arizona, USC, Utah and Notre Dame (among others) to get there.

by Menelaus on Oct 9, 2007 5:59 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice ... Bruin Nation Civil War Over??
The Civil War that has divided us for years over first Lavin and now Dorrell ... are we finally seeing its end?  I hope so ... we certainly get a sense of that at DD.  Even those kids over at Romper Room seem to be coming around.

Great pick up Nestor.  

editor, DumpDorrell.com ... formerly posted as DumpDorrell

by BruinCore on Oct 9, 2007 6:19 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yep
Like I incoherently said in an earlier post, I attended the ND-UCLA game and was shocked by how bad UCLA is. This team is far, far worse than it was when Dorrell took the reins. They may be able to scrape together another 6 or even 7 win season, but considering we (and all other CFB experts) thought this was a year where the team would make a serious run at a Pac-10 title, it is brutally disappointing.

by njbruin on Oct 9, 2007 6:22 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Forget it
That clown has been disparaging the Dorrell "haters" (his favorite word) for a long time.

He doesn't post for days after the Utah debacle and his website completely crashes after the ND disaster.  It's almost like every additional piece of evidence demonstrating Dorrell's incompetence makes the site lose more and more of its power.

He should just stick to posting pictures of cheerleaders and their underwear and otherwise shut up.

by Barnes2JJ on Oct 9, 2007 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I Stopped Reading BeatSC.Com
After I read the remarks about the Bruin Show. Whoever is running that site has proven themselves to be a complete moron. I'm ashamed to be seen reading that site.

by BruinFan1 on Oct 9, 2007 7:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL
You're right, the website is down. I almost feel sorry for the guy. Sure it's embarrassing to be wrong, and it sure as hell sucks for all Bruin fans for US to be right about KD. He would make it easier on himself if he just came out and admitted he was wrong. Then again, KD never admits he's in the wrong, so why would this guy?

by Tydides on Oct 9, 2007 7:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No kidding
They must be stupid if they think pro-Dorrell is still their "core audience."

by SuperBruinMan on Oct 9, 2007 7:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

An Equally Stupid Site..
is Bruingold.com.  Those guys put the blinders on a long time ago.

by bruin8uclap on Oct 9, 2007 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That guy is a loser
I dont use that word much but he earns it.  As BruinFan pointed out, his piece on the BruinShow was repulsive.  And he labels everyone who wants a new coach a hater.

Check out what he has to say about finally wanting a new coach after the most recent humiliation:

Dear Dump Dorrell -

Why would you even think that we'd approve your comment for publication? Well, surprisingly, we did, but only to try to explain one more time:

EVEN IF WE DID WANT A REGIME CHANGE, we wouldn't express it so crudely on this site. Please read our other posts, and take a minute to think about it -- We have OUR PHOTOS hanging in the UCLA Football Offices, and are developing cooperative relationships with them and with the Spirit Squad. It would therefore be inappropriate, almost a betrayal, to turn around and bash the Program. What if Chris Roberts just started demanding the ax to fall, on the air, in the middle of a game?

We never claimed to be legit, or objective journalism (obviously). In fact, we always asserted that this site is SATIRE -- A PARODY of overzealous fans. If you look at it THAT way, our "support" of Dorrell could actually be seen as hilarious satire. Get it?

So ... they have THEIR photos hanging in Morgan Center ... oh. my. god. What a tool ... "bash the program?"  This guy thinks Karl Dorrell IS the program. Then he tries to pass their Dorrell support as possible satire if you look at it another way.  What a friggin idiot.

editor, DumpDorrell.com ... formerly posted as DumpDorrell

by BruinCore on Oct 9, 2007 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We need to do an intervention
There are still some people out in Bruin land who are perpetually high on dope, and we need to work with them.  The dope, of course, is CTS, and no matter what he does or doesn't do, and no matter what he says, these dopers just take another toke and roll their eyes back in their heads and say "Far out, man.  Like, let's all have peace and love.  We love our dope, especially when the dope is the head coach."

These people need to be brought back.  If you had a child who got hooked on something like that, you wouldn't write him or her off, would you?  Well these Bruins are our brothers and sisters, and we need to embrace them, but with a little tough love.

There is a guy who used to post here named Patrick Meighan (sp?) of the class of '95.  No matter what, he would not kick the habit.  He loved his dope, no matter how poorly the dope was coaching.  And this guy who does the beatsc site.  I thought his fixation was just the crotches of our cheerleaders (Barnes, please join me in saying "Not that there's anything wrong with that"), but he still loves the dope for some reason.  

If we could win over those two hearts and minds, we would be doing something positive.

Patrick and beatsc-guy, come back and engage in a discussion.  We (or at least I) don't want to yell at you or beat on you or question your Bruin-ness.  But we want you to kick the dope habit.  That dope will ruin you.  That dope has already ruined a season, and has ruined many potential pro careers.  Kick the dope habit!  Come back home.  We will welcome you.

by Fox 71 on Oct 9, 2007 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lol
Obviously, I have looked at the Beat SC site once or twice or fifty times.  The pics are, ahem, of high quality.

But in this instance I admit to reading the site for the pictures and NOT the articles.

by Barnes2JJ on Oct 9, 2007 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This one hurt
I flew out from Chicago for the game with friends who are ND grads, and since we were using their tickets, we were in the ND section.  I didn't even watch the fourth quarter.  Our entire section was standing, and I just sat there.  I couldn't bear to look.

I've gotta admit, I often thought the rhetoric here on Dorrell was a little over the top.  I was very patient with him.  But if the Utah debacle wasn't the last straw, Saturday certainly was.  He has got to go.  

I mean, Utah was one of those games where the failure was top to bottom.  Not one piece of the machine was working correctly, and for that, you usually blame the head coach.  But on Saturday, there were specific errors that you can point to that were directly Dorrell's fault, from not having a prepared backup QB, to horrendous play calling.  

Thanks for the link, Nestor.

by LA Seitz on Oct 9, 2007 7:42 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah beatsc.com is sad now
Total homersim, jingoism, blindo, loser mentality.

by True Blue and Gold on Oct 9, 2007 9:57 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow
How upset will you guys be if UCLA upsets Cal next weekend?

by BeavertonBruin on Oct 9, 2007 10:19 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Beating Cal
Would be like eating a chili dog: You're content now, but you have a feeling you're gonna pay for it later.
"If I don't do my job, I will get fired" -Karl Dorrell

by godblesstyus95 on Oct 9, 2007 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lol
That reminds me--who else digs Carney's chili dogs (you know the place--smack in the middle of Sunset Boulevard in the old train car)?

by Barnes2JJ on Oct 10, 2007 5:21 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

First of all, it is only a very remote possibility
Second, I would be elated.

Third, a hundred wins over Cal would not make up for the humiliating loss to ND, and should not count as redemption for KD in any way/shape/form.

by bluegold on Oct 9, 2007 10:35 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Of course we're united now
I don't see how any rational UCLA fan who actually follows the team on a consistent basis could think Karl Dorrell is a good coach.

I just regret that I didn't see the light sooner -- I didn't realize that Dorrell was a horrible coach and needed to go until after the Florida State game.

And Nestor, thanks for the link.

by gilbert on Oct 9, 2007 10:41 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Winning the Cal game
is still important.  It seems that no matter what happens after this season, KD will be gone.  In that case, we might as well hope for a win when we can get it.  

by Steven on Oct 9, 2007 11:54 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

This is weird
I was absolutely certain tha we would lose to ND.  I am absolutely certain that we will beat Cal.  

My lifetime record for having "absolutely certain" premonitions actually come to pass is not quite as handsome as CTS's record, so make of this what you will.

by Fox 71 on Oct 10, 2007 5:19 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But why?
Is this a "gut feeling" or do you think we match up well with Cal?

I personally think we are going to be killed by Cal, although I would love to see us pull off the upset.  For a school that has never won anything, they are talking some pretty good smack.

by Barnes2JJ on Oct 10, 2007 5:24 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No science here at all.
Geezer parable.  Attendance was mandatory in Wills and Estates, so I went.  I am happy to say that I got an A in the course but didn't read the cases.  Gilberts on Wills was very good and that's what I read.  With one exception.  I had a horrible premonition that I would be called on to recite on "Estate of Johnson."  It was as if the prof was sitting in my living room the night before calling my name and asking me to talk about "Estate of Johnson."  So I read the case over and over, and was absolutely ready.  The prof did not call on me for Johnson or any other case.  So I made sure I read no more cases, just for spite.

Anyway, that's the same feeling I have about Cal.  They should beat us to a fare thee well.  They have a good team, we don't.  They have a good coach ..., well, you get the picture.

by Fox 71 on Oct 10, 2007 6:25 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My forecast
Prior to the season, I predicted an 8-4 record (I had the Bruins losing to Cal, Oregon, ASU and u$c).

I still have those games down as losses, which leaves the team with a 6-6 record at best (we could also very well lose at WSU), and not looking particularly attractive to any bowl scouts.  I doubt we get an invitation to anywhere.  

Based on the pre-season statements of CTS and the AD, there is no justification for retaining CTS as the head coach.

Bob O. (Signholder #3)

by TuneMan7 on Oct 10, 2007 6:27 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

We're #4!!!
If my memory serves correctly, wasn't KD's uniform #4? Talk about irony...

by Herschy on Oct 10, 2007 10:17 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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