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Dorrell Caves To Bruin Nation, Issues A Clarification

After days of unrelenting pressure from Bruins Nation, DumpDorrell.com, and the greater UCLA community, Karl Dorrell issues a statement `to clarify' his remarks in an incendiary column in the LA Times:

"This statement is to clarify issues arising from an article written about me this past Sunday. During the interview, the reporter asked a question regarding the issue of race in today's college coaching environment. I told the reporter that there still exist issues in this profession, with qualified minority candidates not receiving college head coaching opportunities. In college football, six out of 119 Division IA head coaches are African American. This was the context in which the subject was addressed during the interview.

"My comments regarding race issues were expressed in a general sense, and clearly not as an indictment about my experience at UCLA. I have seen a lot of issues in this profession over the last 20 years, but I have not had to deal with any such concerns during my time at UCLA."
(HT to antipimp)This is a step forward I guess. But I'd imagine this was also a product of lot of internal pressure (in response to the outside firestorm in BN and beyond). I don't think Dorrell would take this step if he hadn't felt the pressure.

However, I believe Dorrell still needs to issue a clear apology to the greater Bruin community for providing unclear remarks to a tabloid peddling "columnist" from the LA Times, who by his column and subsequent writings, made it clear to us that he was intent on injecting a totally unnecessary, nongermaine and incendiary issue in discussions related to the state of UCLA football.

What Dorrell did by implicating through his unclear remarks that somehow UCLA had not given him a "fair shake" was utterly reckless and irresponsible. He is responsible for making an already volatile atmosphere around UCLA football even more toxic. And for that he owes us more than a clarification 2 days after the raging controversy in the UCLA community.

Lastly, we still expect UCLA to terminate Karl Dorrell at the end of the regular season, given it is clear by now no matter what happens in next two contests, he has totally failed to live up to the expectations, Dan Guerrero, the Athletic Director and Karl Dorrell set themselves, when he was hired in Westwood.

Dorrell needs to go. Period.

GO BRUINS.

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Wow
This goes to show how extremely loud our voices are.  We're not going to put up with crap like this.  In my opinion, I don't think this does much though.  The damage is done.

by TheStick on Nov 21, 2007 1:33 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Karl did the right thing
and still needs to be fired. Johnson or Peterson, come on down.
"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"

by silverlakebruin on Nov 21, 2007 1:33 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thanks but no thanks, CTS
Hypothetical:  Mrs. CTS comes home unexpectedly and finds CTS in bed with (fill in the appropriate noun).  Mrs. CTS goes ballistic.  Then two days later CTS gives her an explanation - "Oh, gee, Honey, it's not what you think.  I was dozing off and that rat Streeter planted (same noun) in bed with me.  What you see is out of context."

CTS, where were you all day MONDAY and all day TUESDAY?  Where was this "spontaneous" two paragraph, seven sentence, 125 word, explanation?

CTS, your explanation or clarification or whatever you want to call it comes to late to carry any credibility along with it.  It's the same that we've heard from all those who have walked the "perp walk" on Monday and then read their "spontaneous" apology three or four days later.  

CTS, it's patently obvious that these are not your words.  We have all heard and read your words.  You have a constitutional inability to communicate in simple declaratory sentences of this nature, and the absence of your signature fragrance, the cliche, proves without question that this two paragraph, seven sentence, 125 word "clarification" was authored by someone else.  Maybe you can fool the MSM with this sort of crapola, but did you really expect to fool Bruins?  We're not all as stupid as your pals in the MSM, CTS.

CTS, let's get to the point.  It's painfully obvious that you decided to take a flyer with the race issue and see if it would get you any support.  My unofficial count showed about 6 to 1 against you on Mr. Streeter's blog, and basically a thousand to zero against you here.  For crying out loud, CTS, even justsc fans were excoriating you for claiming that race has anything to do with the heat you're facing because of your record.  Now that you realize the race card cannot trump the facts, you are backing away.  I salute your (or your agent's) recognition of the fact that trying for sympathy based on race didn't work.  I only wish you realized that the WCO is as ineffective as the race card.

But I'm sorry, CTS, this phony "clarification" is way too little, and way too late.  Your credibility and your integrity died when you tried the racial angle.  I think it is highly unlikely that either will be resurrected by this two paragraph, seven sentence, 125 word whatever-it-is which you obviously did not draft.

One of my Bruin brothers said it best:  You are dead to me CTS.  You are worthy of a fine burial, but you truly are not worthy of further discussion.    

by Fox 71 on Nov 21, 2007 1:52 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A little OT--If anyone is still interested
Streeter does respond to emails.

I don't find him to be the most courteous of people, and the more I read his writings, the more I am firmly convinced that he has deep, deep issues about race which he is not addressing in a direct manner.  

I now strongly agree with those who believe that he used Dorrell to drive home a point Streeter--for whatever reason--will not make himself.

Anyway, everyone may have Streeter-fatigue at this point.  If so, please just ignore this post.

by Barnes2JJ on Nov 21, 2007 1:58 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agree but ...
I believe this is a two way street (no pun intended). Streeter used CTS but I also believe CTS used Streeter and is now trying to weasel out of it.

by Nestor on Nov 21, 2007 2:06 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Fair point
That is entirely possible.

Dorrell has now given interviews to Streeter and Pearson all within the past few days.

The timing is interesting.

by Barnes2JJ on Nov 21, 2007 2:08 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

By the way
wouldn't it be nice to know what prompted Dorrell to make this statement?  Did he do it as a result of emails directly to him?  Did DG or the Chancellor call him and say, "Karl.  What the hell did you say?"

Streeter started this mess.  He should call his buddy Dorrell and ask him why he felt it was necessary to clarify his own words.

by Barnes2JJ on Nov 21, 2007 2:06 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

listening..
..as the guy said at the top, it's interesting that he responded; it means he (and/or whoever authored his response), is watching this venue.

by whp68 on Nov 21, 2007 2:20 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The spin is very wobbly at this moment.
Here's the original quote from CTS, according to Streeter:  "'Let me put it this way,' he said.  'In every opportunity that I've had in my coaching career, it was never in my mind that I was dealing with a level playing field. I've had to do more to accomplish what I've accomplished.'"

Here's part of Streeter's second comment, after his first blog caused such a brouhaha:

"It needs to be noted that Dorrell is not one to use racism and our society's issues with it as a crutch. Far from it. Some of the posts have been pointing angry fingers at him, claiming that in the column he used the fact that he is a minority as some sort of scapegoat. To come away from the column with this is to misread the piece. The issue arose because I asked him about it and regarding this he gave what I thought was a very cogent and fair minded response. He's aware that there are racial issues out there and that they have an effect on him, but he didn't sit in his office moaning and moping about it. He said race is an issue that affects him--now, as always--and then he moved on. Not a big deal."

But Streeter also said "I'm convinced that race plays a role in what some of you critics are saying."

And even though Streeter is trying to soft-peddle his racism, his rant shows otherwise.  (I have put that rant at the bottom because (a) it was so long, and (b) I don't personally know that it came from Streeter, although I believe it came from him.

Here's what CTS says now:  "In college football, six out of 119 Division IA head coaches are African American. This was the context in which the subject was addressed during the interview."

Here's what CTS said again, and pardon the pedantry:  "'Let me put it this way,' he said.  'In every opportunity that I've had in my coaching career, it was never in my mind that I was dealing with a level playing field. I've had to do more to accomplish what I've accomplished.'"

Can someone please show me in CTS's original statement how he was talking about 6 out of 119 D1 coaches being black?  I don't see that subject in his words.  He said quite clearly (remarkably clearly, given that it was coming from him) that he was talking about every opportunity he had and that he wasn't dealing with a level playing field.

Neither CTS nor Streeter have ever said that CTS did not say the words attributed to him.  Now CTS and Streeter (and apparently CTS's agent) are trying to say that if you're sitting on a leather couch when you accuse people of racism, then what you're really saying is that only 6 out of 119 D1 coaches are Black.  

I just don't see it.  CTS needs to go to his buddy Cheatie Petie and see if he can consult some of the justsc spinmeisters.  They do a much better job (but then they've had much more practice.)

Bottom line for me:  CTS said what he said, hoped for a reaction he didn't get, and now is trying to weasel out of what he said.  But his spin on Wednesday doesn't jibe with what took place on Sunday, Monday and Tuesday.

(Here's Streeter's race rant:  "Oh yeah, race. You're right, race has no part in this. None. Matter of fact, race is not a problem in the United States and never has been. And after all, race was the entire point of the column. I mean, it was all about race, from the very first line. Race, race, race. The whole thing -- all of it was an excuse for Dorrell because Dorrell is black. I mean, just look at the what that nasty Kurt Streeter wrote: I'm convinced that race plays a role in what some of you critics are saying. To think otherwise would be plain foolish. Some of you just don't know what to make of a coach who does not fit into your convenient stereotypes. Unbelievable. He thinks some of the critics just might have a hard time accepting Dorrell. Some of them just don't know what to make of him. Oh, that just hurts so bad I can't stomach it. I mean, he wrote that all of this is is about race, didn't he? He said all of us are racist, right? Streeter should be ashamed. I need a good cliché for what he did...lemme see...uh, how about this? "He played the race card." Yes, that is highly original and I think I will write to tell him that. Oh, that mean Kurt Streeter, he should be so embarrassed. I mean, doesn't he know what a football powerhouse UCLA has always been? They won their last national title just yesterday, in 1954, and since then it's been nothing but 10 win seasons until that Karl Dorrell got his hands on the program. Any coach with a lesser record should be tossed straight off the Santa Monica Pier. Fed to the sharks! Now look at the Bruins. 7 wins. 6 wins...yeah, I know, there's one 10 win season there but that was all luck. Just pure luck. It had nothing to do with coaching. Those comebacks were a sign of terrible coaching because the Bruins should never be behind in the first place. But those losses, those losses had everything to do with coaching. EVERYTHING. And then there's that injury thing. What a weak excuse. I mean, good God, any coach worth his salt can figure out how to win with third stringers and walk-ons. Oh, you want proof? Just look at SC and how they whupped up on Stanford this year...oh...wait, maybe not. Ok, didn't you see what Oregon did against Arizona? The second best team in all of the land marches into Tucson, loses their starting quarterback and voila...uh, oh, wait, they got pummeled? Oh, never mind. But I still think injuries play no part in this. Why that Karl Dorrell is the worst coach in history and Kurt Streeter is defending him. He should be embarrassed.

 

by Fox 71 on Nov 21, 2007 2:30 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Streeter
Streeter is a self-absorbed tool.

by TfXc79 on Nov 21, 2007 11:44 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He Owes an Apology -- Not Weak Sping
This is not a clarification, it's a whole new quote.

Here's what he said:

""In EVERY opportunity that I've had in my coaching career, it was never in my mind that I was dealing with a level playing field." (emphasis added).

EVERY. Not SOME. EVERY and that includes UCLA.

If he was quoted correctly, he pointed the finger at UCLA.

Now, he wants spin out of this by  changing the focus and play like he was talking about something else -- he was talking about the number of Black head coaches. That's not what he was talking about -- not even close.

And, a clarification is not an apology.

He owes UCLA, and all of us labeled as racist by Streeter, an APOLOGY.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Nov 21, 2007 2:48 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Interesting
Previously I was of the opinion that asking KD to apologize for being clear is like asking a zebra to apologize for having stripes. But now I think you are correct; he was clearly not just misspoken/misquoted.

by dokein on Nov 21, 2007 6:53 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ugh
I just want this to be over.  This sad, depressing era in UCLA football.  And now this crap.

Just go away, Dorrell.  Just pack up and let us sift through the wreckage you have created.

by Sweetbreads Bailey on Nov 21, 2007 2:51 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Come on now...
Paraphrashing John Wooden, Goodness gracious, people!  Let it go!  He's made a clarification, yet we're still jumping on his comments, parsing every word, complaining that it didn't come quickly enough, and dwelling on a non-issue!  We need to move past this, focus on the real issues and stop worrying about one pathetic LA Times writer's decision to provoke a race discussion and Dorrell's response to it.  

by London on Nov 22, 2007 1:47 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Tell Us He Will Be Fired -- for Sure --
and we will take our foot off the gas.

Until then, we must make sure that none of the apologist propaganda gets traction.

It's that simple.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Nov 22, 2007 6:02 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

FIRE KD
Only one thing I disagree about in your commments...."Dorrell needs to go, period"...may I instead correct this to "Dorrell needs to go, EXCLAMATION POINT!"

by BFANFOREVER on Nov 22, 2007 7:28 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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